Just days out from his upcoming fight against former professional wrestling champion Bobby Lashley, mixed martial arts (MMA) fighter/wrestler/Japanese icon, Bob Sapp, was the featured guest on MMAmania.com’s exclusive presentation of Pro MMA Radio this week.

“The Beast” looks to square off against “The Dominator” as the headliner at “Ultimate Chaos,” which kicks things off Saturday, June 27, 2009, from perhaps the only market capable of containing such legends, Biloxi, Mississippi.

A K-1 Grand Prix champion (2005), Sapp has faced Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, and holds MMA and K-1 wins over Kimo Leopoldo and Seth Petrezelli and has twice defeated four-time K-1 champion Ernesto Hoost. He’s also a former pro-wrestling champion in Japan’s IWGP heavyweight division (a title current UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar has also held).

Sapp will be Lashley’s biggest test in MMA to date, as the former two-time Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) title holder and World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) champion is just 3-0 in MMA, which includes a three-round unanimous decision victory over Jason Guida. He debuted in December 2008 and has been looking to build his MMA experience quickly.

A win over a 10-year veteran in Sapp would go a long way toward that end.

While some have questioned Lashley’s decision to fight Sapp, “The Beast” admitted he was “pleasantly shocked” that the American Top Team product agreed to take the fight, stating that Lashley’s current pace of taking four fights in seven months shows just how sincere he is about growing as a mixed martial artist.

Even still, it wasn’t Lashley’s sincerity that made Sapp want to fight him. It was his marketability — something “The Beast” knows a lot about:

“For me to go against another big-time entertainer with me doing ‘fight entertaining,’ it’s huge. Without question, I’m loving to get in there and mix it up with him … I’m hella happy for him to be considering to get this done.”

To which Sapp added: “Come this weekend, he’s really stepped in it.”

Sapp has enjoyed a commercial appeal that is quite unique among MMA fighters. He is adored in Japan, having appeared on countless magazine covers (he claims “hundreds of thousands,” including making the cover of Time magazine in Asia and Europe), commercials, variety shows and other television programs and about 15 feature films.

Sapp fully admits that he’s achieved this notoriety by creating a character in Bob “The Beast Sapp — he says in a low, thundering voice, complete with maniacal laughter — which the Asian market eats up. He also says that he recognizes the distinctions between fighting (the sport) and the fight business:

“The business side is making it work. Going through and training and getting up and dealing with fans and people that hate ya and people that love ya, and being able to do commercials and things like this. Most of these popular fighters that you see, do they have the opportunities? Yes they do. Do they turn them down? Absolutely. Why? Because they (are) training for their next fight … I’ve said yes to absolutely everything.”

Saying yes to everything — including careers in MMA, kickboxing and pro-wrestling, along with face-time in front of the camera outside of the ring — has left “The Beast” tired. He’s the king of capitalizing on the cameo. As Sapp puts it: “Sometimes it takes a lot of lettuce to make a rabbit jump.”

He’s also made a career out of throwing caution to the wind in an effort to put on a good show for the fans, regardless of if it wasn’t the smartest strategy for winning a fight, because that, he believes is what the overseas fans want to see.

“You gotta go out there and lay it down. You gotta go out there and say, ‘Roarroarroarroar! I’m going to go for crazy real quick’ … and move and shake ‘em and get it going and do all kinds of crazies. Why? Because that is what (overseas fans) would consider — and what I consider — to be a fight. You’re fighting everything, you’re fighting fatigue, you’re fighting being able to back up when you should be going forward, you’re doing all of that stuff and … Wooooooooh! It can be real crazy.”

As Pro MMA Radio host Larry Pepe pointed out, that’s the Bob Sapp game plan: “Bull-rush, swing for the fences, he goes down or you get tired at some point.”

Sapp agrees: “When you look through some of my fights, you can look through and say, man, this guy is throwing some of the wildest biggest punches that I’ve ever seen. And you know what? That’s great, because that’s my point. I want everybody to see them, including the guy I hate. Let’s see if you can stop them. Sometimes they can, and sometimes … Hey, the beast always gets ya.”

Despite what might be seen as a reckless game plan, Sapp says he is taking the Lashley fight very seriously and has even incorporated a strict diet of sushi and ramen, as well as cardio training with Maurice Smith, in order to drop weight — something he realized was necessary when he sat down on a toilet and it cracked.

Fans have seen Sapp weigh in as much as 390 pounds for a fight; but the former decorated offensive lineman from the University of Washington who was drafted by the Chicago Bears says he is trying to get back to his “pro-football weight” of 320 pounds. He currently weighs about 345 pounds on a good day. He says the Lashley fight will be “The Beast” at the lightest fans have seen him.

While Sapp says he feels good, he admits that “it’s going to be interesting to see if I still have that power.”

He’ll need it to fend off Lashley. The 6’3” physical specimen looks every bit of his 265 pounds. Sapp expects Lashley to throw a lot of strikes, but is hoping to avoid a lay-and-pray scenario, like he saw against Jason Guida.

Sapp wraps up the interview by answering a fan’s email question about the long-debated controversy regarding his last-minute withdrawal of a K-1 event in Holland from 2006 against Ernesto Hoost, which at the time was being billed as “Mr. Perfect’s” final fight before retirement. After attending the pre-fight presser and the opening ceremony, Sapp pulled out, leaving K-1 executives to claim that he made new demands that weren’t part of their contract agreement.

Sapp finally sets the record straight (sorta), by blaming a contract dispute with K-1 executives on the fact that they must have been smoking Amsterdam marijuana and forgot to pay him. No shit … you can’t make this stuff up.

Check out the complete interview, as well as the entire Pro MMA Radio archive with host Larry Pepe, right here.

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Comment by Sean M
2009-06-24 13:38:08

As much as I don’t like freakshow fights, I’m looking forward to this one.

Comment by Alpha Male 360
2009-06-24 13:47:13

LMAO @ “Sapp says he is taking the Lashley fight very seriously and has even incorporated a strict diet of sushi and ramen, as well as cardio training with Maurice Smith, in order to drop weight — something he realized was necessary when he sat down on a toilet and it cracked.”

Comment by Ca$z
2009-06-24 14:35:30

This is Lashley’s to lose. He clearly has the better wrestling and Sapp is terrible on his back.

If lashley doesn’t let himself get into a slugging match he should demolish him in the first via GnP as Sapp taps from strikes.

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Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 13:51:33

Kind of a dangerous fight for Lashley and a step up in competition; but I still like how he’s approaching MMA, starting in the smaller shows fighting some low/mid level talent and fine tuning his game before stepping out onto the big stage. There’s no way anyone can knock Lashley for what he’s doing or how he’s handling himself at this point; the guy isn’t claiming to be more than he is; he isn’t making any outrageous statements about his performances.

Anyway, as far as this fight goes, I like it; I think it’s good experience for Lashley to fight a much bigger guy; cause he won’t run into that too often in his carreer and Sapp is a step up in competition but it’s not going too far too fast imo.

4 fights in 7 months is awesome; I hope he can keep this up, get a good 6-10 wins under his belt and then move on to the UFC or strikeforce. I don’t see any reason for him to rush his development as a fighter or be in a hurry to prove anything; there’s plenty of time for that.

 
Comment by Jared
2009-06-24 13:51:57

sapp by ko

 
 
Comment by hum
2009-06-24 13:38:17

man if cote was in this card it would be better he would beat everyone his the best p4p fighter ever better then miguel torres

Comment by phenomenal angel
2009-06-24 14:11:11

Pattrick cote??
R u serious

Comment by brendan
2009-06-24 14:36:10

theres some weird patrick cote lovers on this site… this isnt the first time ive heard some outrageous statements about him

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Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 14:47:56

It IS Patrick Cote; he trolls the MMA blogs once a month or so trying to drum up some type of support for a rematch with A. Silva. Get off it Cote; no one’s buying your bullsh!t!

 
Comment by sleeper
2009-06-24 15:17:11

lol

 
Comment by Patrick Cote
2009-06-24 15:47:49

No guys its not me… I don’t wanna fight Anderson Silva again.. he’s like a wizard or something.. scariest 12 minutes of my life.

 
 
 
 
Comment by HKM
2009-06-24 13:48:57

^ Word

 
Comment by MMAMoneyLine
2009-06-24 14:06:16

If the same Lashley shows up that barely beat Guida, Sapp could take this. If Sapp can land some big shots and Lashley can’t take him down, this fight could be over quickly.

 
Comment by ufcfanatic23
2009-06-24 14:27:27

lashley by TKO

 
Comment by BeerMan
2009-06-24 15:05:18

I have not follwed the career of Bob Sapp but because of the “marketablility” of Lashley know all about his fights. I know Bobby is new in the MMA game and is taking this sport really seriou, which is good, but is it smart to fight Sapp? I was the first to bust him for not getting by Guida (a journeyman)and am wondering if (Sapp) could be considered a journey man as well. Or is Sapp a threat to Bobby? Anyone got any Sapp info?

Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 15:15:22

lol, why would you bust him for fighting (journeyman) fighter’s when he is one??? He’s 3-0, starting at the bottom and working his way up which is commendable imo. Just cause he has a name in PRO Wrestling doesn’t mean he has to follow in Brock Lesnars foot steps and jump into the deep end right off.

As far as Sapp goes, he’s dangerous in the 1st rd. If he doesn’t put Lashley away in the 1st, then Bobby’s probably got it in the bag. Sapp’s size and power are his only real tools; as far as heart, technique, conditioning and durability goes, Sapp doesn’t have those in abundance. Sapp is more in it for the marketability and the money than he is to be a great fighter. He’s just enjoying the ride while he’s on it. Overall, being 3-0 and going up against a big guy with that kind of power; it’s a step in the right direction. Sapp is a step up from his previous competition, probably the first fight he’s in danger of being KO’d in. It’s not a fight many would expect to be a problem for Lashley, but imo it’s not set in stone that he’ll win it either.

Comment by PW
2009-06-24 15:49:59

Sapp is also in it for all the hot Japanese poonanny.

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Comment by BeerMan
2009-06-24 16:20:39

I’m talking about Lashley…He’s not a journeyman last time I checked.

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Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 16:31:00

Yes he is a Journeyman, 3-0 in MMA with NO amatuer MMA experience definatley makes you a Journeyman in MMA.

 
Comment by PW
2009-06-24 16:33:35

A journeyman would have a record of like 14-12. No offense, Mr. Baroni.

 
Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 16:37:25

lol PW; so where do you rank him then?

 
Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 16:38:43

I guess I was taking BeerMan to mean that Lashley was above the level of a “Journeyman” MMA fighter; when imo he’s about the same level or below skill/experience wise.

 
Comment by randy murders
2009-06-24 21:49:21

journeyman doesn’t go by experience it goes by where you are consistently like one organization for more than one time

lashley is for sure a journeyman he hasn’t fought twice in 1 promotion yet, and is doing everything right but i think sapp might be to much for him at this point

 
Comment by paniczoo
2009-06-25 01:34:29

Lashley is at the apprentice level, he is still learning the game and has a long way to go. The term actually comes from smiths, carpenters etc., apprentice is while youre still in your learning phase, journeyman is when you finish your apprenticeship and leave your masters workshop, typicaly moving from town to town and following the work. When you are experienced and succesful enough to afford your own workshop you are considered a master.
A journeyman fighter is usually someone who has a lot of skill and experience but isnt likely to ever master the sport and/or competes in different weights and promotions to make money. I hate to say it but Nick Diaz is a prime example of a journeyman at the moment although i hope this changes. Heath Herring too.

 
 
 
 
Comment by BeerMan
2009-06-24 15:06:47

He beat Guida by UD but almost lost is what I meant to say.

Comment by O damn he got caught
2009-06-24 15:28:10

Yea but wasn’t that his 2nd MMA bout??? I don’t think thats any indication of how far Lashley can go in this sport. He made a lot of mistakes, which is he’s starting at the bottom and working his way up. He has the opportunity to fight guys his own skill level and improve on his weaknesses instead of fighting guys with superior skills and trying to rely on his size/strength/athleticism to carry him through.

 
 
Comment by BeerMan
2009-06-24 15:07:29

Not getting by Guida easily is the best way to word it. Man I’m slow today.

Comment by Alpha Male 360
2009-06-24 15:17:18

Have another beer bud!

Comment by BeerMan
2009-06-24 16:22:49

wat up alpha. I’m about ready to pop one open right now.

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Comment by Jon
2009-06-24 15:40:09

I want Lashley to do well in MMA (as I want anybody who attempts it to do well) but I wish that these media outlets would quit citing his pro wrestling belts as credentials.

Comment by PW
2009-06-24 16:35:05

He actually won amateur wrestling national championships at the Juco level and in the military. Of course, he wrestled at 171 in his mid-20s, and now he’s 265, so take that for whatever it’s worth.

 
 
Comment by Green Inferno
2009-06-24 15:41:53

Freakshow.

Neither of these freaks have any skill.

 
Comment by danasmassiveego
2009-06-24 16:30:02

sapp has 100x the experience of lashley, and beat the kickboxing k1 champion 4x.. lashley is a big guy with some wrestling… sapp keeps it standing GG lash

 
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