“Hardy had one highlight in each round. He had the elbow in the first round. He had the big knee that dropped me in the second round. And he had the elbow in the third round that opened up the cut on me and caused me to bleed. His whole win is based off those three big strikes. My performance is based off of 12-13 minutes of controlling and beating him in every other area. I took at least 12 minutes of that fight; he can have the other three. So you’re going to give him the win off that? I just don’t get it. If you break it down as a numbers game; I win the numbers. Whether it is clean strikes, wrestling, ground work, all of it. Honestly, neither of us had our best night that night or else one of us would have ended it before it went to the judges’ scorecards. I know Hardy isn’t happy winning the fight that way and I’m not happy losing the fight that way. That is why I want to do it again. Does it need to be an automatic rematch, of course not. But I want Davis-Hardy II by the end of this year.”
– Marcus Davis — who is perhaps UFC matchmaker Joe Silva’s easiest fighter to please since he essentially books his own fights — tells MMAmania.com that a rematch with Dan Hardy must happen before 2009 expires. “The Irish Hand Grenade” dropped a controversial split decision to “The Outlaw” at UFC 99: “The Comeback” at the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, Germany, on June 12. The two welterweights went to war before even stepping inside the Octagon, trading barbs and insults to promote the match. All the pre-fight talk was supposed to be settled inside the cage; however, it appears that the result just added more fuel to the fire. This ain’t over folks, not by a long shot. We’ll pass along the complete post UFC 99 interview with Davis as soon as possible.
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Get over it, you bleeder.
I will be thrilled to see Hardy do it to him again. Marcus even if he had one highlight shot it was enough to make you look like you got mugged by a group of crack heads in the park. If you get your rematch I suggest trying to actually do some damage so Hardy doesnt look like he just finished a light training session after the fight.
get over it davis being a sore loser makes you have less fans and lets face it you dont have many
Looks like the ol BJ Penn approach to me…….
BJ has never bitched like that.
If Hardy only landed three strikes then whats even more impressive is the amount of damage just three strikes caused. I would rather be Hardy after that fight because he is ready to go again and Davis’ face still looks like a potato. I’ll enjoy a rematch.
maybe Marcus should call BJ’s mom to straighten this out
I don’t think Marcus calling BJ’s mom to straighten anything out is a good idea..
Davis should be thankful he’s still getting hyped-up fights at all, and that people are still talking about him. He’s just not very good. He’s had hand-picked opponents over much of his career. He’s somehow conned his way into representing Ireland. He’s muscular, but too small for good WWs and too slow to beat good LWs. Be quiet now, Marcus. You lost a close fight because you did absolutely nothing to hurt your opponent.
Saying that BJ Penn has never bitched like that is amusing… and false.
“maybe Marcus should call BJ’s mom to straighten this out”
you gotta love it
I understand that he would feel like he won because it was a very close fight and he did have control for most of it. I still think Hardy one — just look at their faces afterward — but Davis isn’t being too bitter about it.
I also think he’s been billed as better than he is but he’s still shown some impressive fights and improved dramatically in contrast to where he was in the TUF days. And he can certainly take a solid hit.
But everything aside, when he fought Swick, shoulder injury or not (it was the shoulder right?), he was not going to beat him, no way.
let him have the fight,next time hardy will knock him out.
Look, I hate to admit it, but I think Hardy actually might have won me over. I never really hated him or anything, but his post fight demeanor, coupled with a tough fight is hard to ignore.
I also agree, Davis (who I was pulling for and still like) needs to relax. He’s reminding me of Tommy Boy in the diner with his “litle pet”, all jacked up like jojo the circus clown. Eaze up buddy, and take it in stride. Still a fan though.
I agree man, Hardy shut me up but its all positives from this fight, as usual Davis was in a war and showed great technical ability, heart and chin, Hardy showed composure and killer instinct in capitalising on the small gaps Davis gave him. Not finishing Davis isn’t a big deal; I reckon he’s one of the hardest guys in MMA to put away.
Whatever you think of the result it’s hard to deny the rivalry leading up to this fight was fun and added an extra dimension to the atmosphere of the live event. With so many teammates not wanting to fight each other, nice guy Eddies, dancing champions, dry humpers and butt scooters it can get a bit boring. These guys have a passionate and public dislike for each other which is so rare – so let the fires buuuurrn. I want to see a rematch to see what the next level of smack talk could be. And a finish would be good too.
Do I have to pretend to be Davis and suggest a photoshop session on this picture? http://www.mma-underground.com/articles/images/dan_hardy_large1.jpg
I agree Jrandolph. He’s grown on me too. In spite of the mohawk and the trash-talk he’s actually pretty well-spoken and seemingly honest.
if that is the protocol for judging, then BJ PENN destroyed GSP in their 1st fight. If hardy/you are happy with that judges DRAW gift, then you must LOVE!!!! karo the decisionian P
Should we start calling him “B.J. Davis?”
People bringing up BJ is getting rediculouse enough already fuck!
quit whining like a little Penn
lol lokie must visit blowjob penn.com every 2 hours
I absolutely agree with his totalling of the minutes.
The fight should have been more decisive either way and Davis is the more well rounded fighter. I’d like to see a rematch down the road.
Rematches arent usually warranted and this is fits into that category. You lost move on and fight someone else. It does nothing for Hardy to beat Davis again. It really doesnt do anything for Davis if he wins either. Let both guys fight a few other people and if their paths converge again they can have a rematch. Instant rematches are stupid unless something very strange happened in the fight. This was a judges decision be a man and take your loss.
Rampage and Griffin should have been a instant rematch! You gotta beat the champ and anyone ( 2 judges ) that gave Forrest the first round is a retard!
I agree with you tho , Marcus got owned. Why would Hardy want too fight him again.
yeah, Marcus gain nothing by fighting Hardy again.. He performs better against shorter opponents!
Yes dayzah any title fight that ends up in a close decision needs a rematch
screw another fight in the ufc have a bare knuckle street brawl like kimbo and put it on youtube cause i’m not paying to watch them fight again…davis is just bitter and this almost seems like it is evolving into an after school fight in an elementary school i lost a lot of respect for davis after this he really let hardy get to his head as it is visible from his comment
I agree, Davis won the fight! Hardy got 3 good shots that happened to do more damage! Controlling 95% of the fight deserves the win over 3 placed shots!
I agree Kevin. I saw it the same way.
He should of one, but who wants to see them two fight again. Not me.
U lost. Get over it u whiny bit*ch.
U are irrelevant anyways
he lost? dude that fight was BULLSHIT on the decision davis was way more controlling even during the standup he was more aggressive he got beat by technicalities and judges that sucked.. same judges that gave franklin the win even though it was clear he lost the final 2 rounds..
I don’t agree, Randy. I think it’s good that Hardy got the win so that Huggy-Bear-esque fight styles like Clay Guidas aren’t continually rewarded. Do you want to see people trying to control each other or people trying to finish fights?
As for the Franklin fight, Franklin was much more technical than Silva and did much more damage. Despite Franklin getting hit hard a couple times, it was actually Silva’s face that was a bloody mess. I will say I thought the Davis-Hardy fight was closer because you never know how some judges will judge octagon control v damage. But Franklin won without question, and the judges agreed.
Davis is such a mentally weak crybaby. Hardy barely lifted a finger and got into his head so deeply that the Faux Irishman is still obsessed with beating him.
“My performance is based off of 12-13 minutes of controlling and beating him in every other area.”
And by every other area, you mean laying on Hardy and doing nothing every chance you got. I’ll watch the fight again, but I’ll guarantee he was in no way shape or form in control of that fight for even 6-8 mins, let alone 12 mins.
As for a rematch; yes I would love to see Hardy put him away by KO/TKO in a rematch and shut him up.
if you are on top, and your opponent is underneath you whether you are doing anything or not is YOU in control…
if more active from bottom resulted in a win nate diaz would have beaten clay guida
I think the Judges did a great job, cause human blanket strategy shouldn’t garner any points/respect in my eyes at all. it’s a FIGHT, not a hugging contest; if his plan is to sit on top and do nothing so he can eek out a decision win than I completely agree with the judges and I’m all for it if they don’t give a fighter ANY points for top control if they don’t do anything with it.
Nate beat Guida’s @ss, he was robbed by the judges.
I agree completely OD. It discourages guys from doing nothing and thinking they can still win. Guida and other guys like him seem to be doing everything they can to avoid actually fighting. You can dominate a guy with ground and pound or go for an arm or just keep trying to improve your position while on top. If you’re not doing any of those things you’re not fighting; you’re smothering.
Very good points O damn, I basically said the same thing above before scrolling down and seeing your comment. Mania hasn’t posted it yet
Yeah guys, I agree. I think the ‘human blanket strategy’ or safety blanket strategy is good enough if you successfully try to do damage or advance your position but not at the expense of time, that is, after a certain amount of time it just becomes a time waster and provides no clear-cut victor (UNLESS the other guy manages to do nothing at all in terms of mounting some kind of offense).
However, the fact that they’re able to maintain control of the fighter should render them some points at least, but not so much that it scores higher overall than a successful strike or two by the other guy.
What I’m saying is that it should garner some points (for control, etc.) but if there was a binary system or something of Major and Minor points allocation it should definitely be tagged as Minor.
I agree JJ and Odamn..
I’m tired of “fights” where one guy wins because he is the better and stronger wrestler and there for ends up on top for most part of the fight.. wrestling is not fighting!
Hardy knocked him down, broke his nose and rocked him he won that fight, me and all my friends knew that!
3 fights that should have been scored differently where the guy who spent most time on top won..
T.Tavares/T.Griffin
Diego/Fitch
Diaz/Guida
Not this shit again!!!
For fuck sakes fighting is about fighting not controlling. I am beginning to understand what nick diaz was saying when he said fighters that come to FIGHT!!! and fighters that come to control, score points and win on wrestling criteria.
Its amazing the fights that you think for sure wont go to the judges end up going to decision and the fights you dont expect to end by KO/dubmision do.
i’m a big fan of dubmision victories myself. Just bustin balls
Is that harder to pull of than a submission?? lol
Fuck that. Guida didn’t bitch after the griffin fight and demand a rematch, neither did Taylor after the Lytle fight.
It was close, but not controversial. Only controversial decisions should result in rematches.
not interested
I’d watch him bleed again, at least that part was entertaining.
Again, I watched this fight with 3 other ppl. All of us had it 29-28 Hardy. Get over it Davis! I like Davis, but I like Hardy alot more, so I was defintely pulling for him. But Davis is gonna lose fans if he keeps crying like this.
My heart said Hardy won, but my mind said Davis won.
This is about technique vs power. Davis was more technical but Hardy inflicted more damage. Under the 10 point must system I thought Davis won (he controlled the fight pretty much the whole time), but is MMA and fighting supposed to be a dance contest? or who fucks up the other guy more?
THIS
blah blah blah blah…. Davis talking AGAIN?
Hardy is a young up & comer, he has already beat Marcus I see no reason for him to waste another effort on him. I am a little surprized that he doesnt think he is ready for Swick though, figure a guy like him would jump at the chance to get in there with some better competition & prove himself. I like Hardy I just dont understand that.
i really agree with this comment i honestly did think that this fight would happen because they both one and both beat marcus then hardy says that he is not ready but then again im glad becuase swick has been in the ufc forever and been at the top of the middle wieght division top 3 or top 5 and lost but he has beatten so many good opponents i just really think he deserves a title shot maybe he fights 2 more top contenders and then title shot hopefully
sweet jesus, let it go davis… move on and work your way back up. You leave the fight in the judge’s hands… there’s a good chance you’re gonna get burned, whether you think you won or not.
He really needs to move on…
I want to see Hardy vs. Johnson.
me too, or either guy vs Matt Brown or Condit…
Yup… Condit vs Davis would be bad a$$.
no condit vs. hardy if marcus fought condit he would try to lay on him
maybe you should have put him away the first time, why would I care to watch them again?
it was an entertaining fight and it was close. I don’t know if the results will be ay different but I think it will be an even better fight the second time around.
even though davis is a b.s merchant i had to sit on the fence because my girlfriend and family were ACTUALLY born in waterford,ireland.first round to davis easily but after that hardy looked as comfortable as swick did,in fact causing more damage.at least hardy has shown some humility saying hes not ready for swick yet instead of crying!!! proper paddys dont cry!!!!
I might be the only person here that thought he won that fight and I’m not even a Davis fan.
GO AWAY U DAMN SORE LOSER!
Impossible to go a week without this guy talking.
yeah, close decisions happen ALL the time, where he thinks he’s gonna get special treatment is beyond me…fucking Bisping/Hamill needs to happen before this!
Sore loser. Davis is 35 and does not have that many fights left in him against b level guys.
he does hav a good point so u guy shud pull the dick out of ur ass and stop calling him names, u guys cry about forest whooping rampages ass all the time..
STOP IT MARCUS! YOU LOST. get over it. end of.
Starting to sound like BJ…
the comments on this site never work its so annoying..
He’s a whiner who got beat. He can ST*FU now.
A lot of bandwagoneers in here. I watched the fight again closely, and Davis isn’t far off.
wow looks like everything i wanted to say has been said. davis is basically irrelevant. and if he does not make waves nobody will call on him to fight based on his average at best talent.
Maybe it could have gone his way, maybe it couldnt – didnt see the fight, but stop crying about it – you lost – get over it, move on.
They gotta get Nate Diaz on the speakers tour. Great voice no??
He actually talks like a squirrell fucked his tonsils.
“So Alvin crawled in my mouth, you know what I’m sayin?”
It was a close fight but cmon. his face was smashed. That alone merits a big plus on Hardy.
nate diaz sounds like the waterboy, for real.
sore loser.
It was a good fight. Wouldn’t mind seeing it again. Davis can bitch all he wants…it doesn’t change the fact that he lost, and he’s likely to lose again in a rematch.
Regardless of the fight, anyone that judges who won the round based solely off how beat up a guys face is (like many on this site, obviously) is a moron. It’s getting really old hearing that brought up. Some guys have a lot of scar tissue and bleed easier than others, or some guys have sharper bone structures that make them bleed easier… How does blood warrant who wins? If you’re judging fights based on blood and how someone looks, then you are doing an injustice to the sport. People like this also are the people that push MMA backwards. You’re just proving to the media, and those who don’t know the sport that it’s all about blood lust.
dont be hating on my boy nate diaz! he might talk funny but thats why hes a fighter and not a commentator haha
Well as technical as MMA is, and as much as I hate the Meatheads who boo when there isn’t blood 10 seconds into round one, I still give this fight to Hardy – Control for me is an odd aspect of the sport, by dryhumping what exactly are you doing that warrants winning a fight? I’m not too worried how a fighter looks at the end of the night but strong blows landed do count for me and Davis just didn’t land that many. I for one will be happy if I never see Matt Hughes fight again for that very reason.
You have to be careful giving too much sway to control if no advantage can be taken from that control. If not, we could end up with the heavyweight champion being some kind of Hong Man Choi sized bearhugger (a little like Tim Sylvia in his last few UFC fights in fact) who simply holds his opponent to the cage/floor for five rounds… Even though I love the technical side of MMA I think that would be worse for the sport than having someone win purely by smashing someone’s face in.
Agreed, I’m not arguing that at all, just the fact that you can’t gauge a fight based off of someones face.
True, and there is that risk as some people definitely mark up easily while others (B.J. Penn for example) rarely look touched after a fight even even they’ve been caught dozens of times. I think if someone is staggered, as Davis was a few times, then that should count as much as a very strong takedown (not a simple wrestling shoot, that for me is the equivalent of a few boxing jabs – you do it to get position, if you don’t capitalise on that position it is not worth a hell of a lot!). If someone recovers from a big shot then equally that should be rewarded as someone who recovers from a difficult ground position.
All things being equal at the end of a fight then damage inflicted will probably be the deciding factor if a draw (as it seems lately) isn’t favoured.
I am a Marcus Davis fan but I thought he lost a close decision. You guys are giving way too much cred to this notion of “controlling” the fight. Somebody getting somebody down and holding them there without inflicting any real damage should score enough points to win the bout? Not in my mind. I think the fighters faces are always telling after the fight. Yes, Marcus Davis starts to swell up even before he steps in the cage due to his history but Hardy didn’t even look like he was in a fight. I say let em scrap again…..
I love how you IDIOTS say Hardy won by the way their faces looked at the end of the fight! Complete morons. Please stick to figure skating.
You lost! Get over it. Davis did nothing impressive in that fight. Hardy won and I wanted Davis to knock him out too.