dave~ houston is not humble in defeat.

when thiago tko’d him~

he said he wasnt out~ when he was clearly being knocked in and out.

and then when irvin ko’d him he said his daughter hits harder..

i like to call him excuseton alexander..

and no kevin i wouldnt care~

I was wondering about the “no excuses in defeat” comment.

Yeah,he should be call The Urban Legend!

I’m sympathetic to the guys personal issues but if you don’t perform well at your job you get fired. He is extremely one dimensional and he’s old. He isn’t gonna last long. Hopefully he can get a gig somewhere else or parlay what recognition he does have into something that will help him support his family.

Do you watch TUF Kevin? That’s a soap opera. There’s nothing wrong with following a fighter because of their backstory.

he is because he’s a nice guy!.. shut the f up about excuses and all that, who the f cares! we all saw if he was out or not and all that..

he also has that thing called charisma!..

I don’t really care about a fighters backstory to be honest, I’m more bothered about talent. I like guys that talk trash if they can back it up but I also like fighters that don’t need to talk about their lives or their opponents but can still entertain by putting on great fights.

I’m tired of all of this sob story nonsense this is the sort of thing that is ruining reality shows like the X-Factor as lesser talented individuals are getting chances over more deserving people because everyone feels sorry for them. The UFC doesn’t need to resort to sob stories to promote fights, we get enough of that rubbish in Simon Cowell’s music shows.

you’re completely wrong David!..
I don’t have time to explain why

Am I wrong because I don’t like sob stories? Or is it because I personally prefer watching talent over personality in a competetive sport? Please elaborate Rob rather than just calling my opinions wrong.

no i don’t have time, read my other posts instead of me having to write all the things i need to make u understand..
so, Shayne Ward shouldn’t have won?

some people like the background of a person some people do not,neither one of you are wrong,you just look for different things in your fighters ,Rob,you like fighters with a story and charisma,ala Tito.David you want the fighters to stfu and just fight,nothing wrong with that ,just means you pull for different types of fighters than Rob,there is nothing wrong with either one of your opinions

you’re right scott.. couldn’t have said it better!
I like and root for the person, not the fighter..

Well said Scott, it just made me laugh how Rob was calling my opinions on what I want to see wrong but its all good. I actually like to see fighters talk if they can back it up but if they can’t then I’m not interested in watching them fight.

Oh and Rob I wanted Journey South to win that year, but my favourites always lose on the X-Factor. I don’t mind Shayne, it just annoyed me when Leon won instead of Rhydian because people felt sorry for him, the guy has already been dropped from his label so he clearly was the wrong choice.

I know that sometimes the wrong person win, but winning the show isn’t that important at all.. talent and charisma is gonna come through anyways, the business is about entertainment for people to watch and listen too..

And yes i still think you were wrong cause they do need stories and such to promote fighters and fights, what does putting on a great fight mean if no one’s there to watch it?

KEVIN,

What’s our swine flu update. Are you guys doing anythin special?

looks obviously have alot to with it.. especially in the music industry

I agree that they need to promote the fights and the fighters but I don’t see how a sob story can make anyone want to watch a fight or download a song. I don’t care how nice of a person you are, if you can’t win fights then I don’t want to pay to watch you fight.

I like to see rivalries in MMA and having charismatic fighters does help tell a story that interests fans, but if they can’t actually win fights and yet are still promoted as top fighters then it makes the promotion and the sport in general look like a joke. Look what happened when Kimbo Slice couldn’t back up the hype.

Tito in his prime was so good because he is an excellent self-promoter and at his best could beat top guys but if he lost every fight or could only beat cans then nobody would watch him or take his trash talk seriously. In his prime at least, he was successful because he could back up what he said in the octagon.

The UFC needs guys that can promote fights as well as put on exciting fights and beat legitimate contenders. For me, Houston doesn’t cut it as a fighter because he is too one dimensional and no amount of hype or charisma can cover the fact that he isn’t a top fighter. It’s like Chico in the X-Factor, he was entertaining and charismatic but he couldn’t sing and once the novelty wore off he had no music career and now he’s stuck on daft reality shows.

Im about to keep it real:

There isnt much difference between Kimbo and HOuston. BOth sluggers, with Zero ground game. Only difference is HOuston has been training longer, in better shape and has a decent clinch game….bOTH MORE HYPE THAN TALENT!

neither one has a chin either john.. i wanna see houston in strikeforce though he could have a few tough fights over there

Houston has a chin!… And Houston got his hype going because he came in and scored 2 first round KO’s..
the guy has an exciting style and a personality, Kimbo didn’t really know what he was talking about..

lol, yeh, Houston will be opening a gym soon. lol

I’m not saying the guy is a great MMA fighter or anything, but the more “talented” top fighters should learn to be a little more entertaining and get some kind of a personality to connect with the fans…
I don’t just like someone because of how good they are or not, but i do recognize and realize when someone’s not good enough or what their strentghs and weaknesses are..

I got absolutely NO LOVE for 1 dimensional fighters. YOu have to be atleast great in 1 discipline and at least average in the other ones….There is NO EXCUSE for houston having a worse ground game then me!

kevin thats sweet news. im going to learn my jits as his camp and hopefully he can grant me a blackbelt at knowing fuck all on the ground. !!! IM SO JACKED!!!

***FIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT***

UFC 102:

Maia vs. Marquardt!

Im not joking about this!

nice 1 john man…marquart by decision i reckon.

hope not, I am a big fan of Maia!

Maia better take it to the ground… fast. That will be tough, Nate is very strong.

Maia eats too many shots getting the fight where he wants it. I’m not sure who to pick here, but my gut says Maia will submit him.

John, you’ve got absolutely no love for one-dimensional fighters… and you’re a huge Maia fan?

Can you quantify that statement? And please don’t tell me Maia’s stand-up is average… it sucks, and he gets hit a LOT. It’s going to really cost him when he runs into a skilled power puncher.

I’m guessing this fight announcement means there won’t be any titles on the line in Portland. They were saying Rampage vs Evans/Machida at 102 or 103… my guess now is 104. 103 is in the UK and they never do big title bouts there anymore.

who will like Maia when he loses?…
my guess is not many..

Good call Alpha.

JJ,Now that the Habs are eliminated,I hope you guys the best against Chicago.I also pulling for yall for the cup!

Thanks man! It’s our year, I can feel it!

You seem to forget that Jardine talked a lot of shit prior to that fight.

hell yeah mofos. match houston with a guy with a weak chin and hell look awesome. match him up with irvin and watch him go down like a bitch.

WAR JAMES SANDMAN IRVIN!!!!

Cheers mate, can’t stand excuses. It’s the same reason I dislike Vera, after all of the moaning he did after losing to Sylvia and Werdum. If these guys are more bothered about maintaining their reputation than improving their skills then more fool them. I like to see fighters show the winner respect then look to better themselves and win their next fight, that makes a much bigger statement than any amount of whining and complaining.

You call breaking your hand (bad enough to require surgery) moaning?

Forrest broke his hand against Rashad and still admitted he lost fair and square, so why couldn’t Vera show Sylvia the same respect? In my mind he was just making excuses for a lackluster performance. I would have gotten over it if he hadn’t have continued giving poor showings and even having the cheek to blame a referee for one defeat.

Vera always find excuses!

breaking your hand is a fact, and it’s stupid to keep your mouth shut about such an injury..

Forrest is a jacka$$ that’s why i can’t stand him..
he has no class whatsoever

There’s a difference between talking about an injury and using it as an excuse. Forrest mentioned his broken hand as well but to me he didn’t seem to be blaming it for his defeat, which is pretty much what Vera did after the Sylvia fight. It’s this difference in attitude that makes me like Forrest more than Vera.

ok, but Forrest just likes to fight and he gets no respect from me.. Forrest is busted up and just seems to be really stupid

Yeah he is pretty dumb but I can’t help but like the guy he always puts on a show and gives it everything that he has. I’ve always been a fan of guys that work hard in every sport that I watch so its little wonder that I like Forrest.

Dude a broken hand is an excuse no matter what- a damn good one. Whether Forrest voices it to your satisfaction or not- anyone with brain knows there is a big difference between fighting with a broken hand and not. It’s not wrong to say “damn if I hadn’t broken my hand maybe I could have done x, y or z”. Vera admitted he bought into his own hype for a while. Houston on the other hand is the king of excuses.

I agree Houston is the king of excuses but Vera has at times ran him pretty close. If it had have ended after the Sylvia defeat then fair enough, instead he carried on looking for excuses for his defeats instead of improving, which is one of the reasons that his career has not reached the heights that many expected it would. Of course breaking your hand makes a difference but that wouldn’t have stopped Vera throwing kicks in that fight and it wasn’t the only reason that he lost. I would have just liked for him to get on with training instead of justifying a poor display.

Hopefully Brandon is going to come back in better shape and more focused than he was in the past. He looked good in his last fight, now lets see if he can build on that performance against a better matched opponent in Matt Hamill. He’s a talented fighter, but I hope he doesn’t get lazy as it would be a waste of a potentially great fighter.

I like Vera, he’s gonna have Hammill hearing for the first time!

Rob, if you don’t like Forest that’s fine… and to say he’s got no class and he’s a jackass and he’s stupid is fine too, although I disagree….

But if personality and charisma are so important to you, I’d think you’d like Forest. He’s got tons of both, and he’s an extremely popular fighter because of that. Or is it a SPECIFIC personality that you like? You can’t have it both ways. You can’t hate one guy and love another for having unique personalities, just because one may appeal to you and one doesn’t.

And how can you hack on Forest for having no class and being a stupid jackass, and support Dick Diaz and Tito at the same time?

Just something to think about…

It is something to think about.. I just can’t take him seriously, he’s too much of a nice guy and he has no attitude, not really fun to me.. He also just fights a stupid fight and i won’t just like him cause he struggles his way to success..

yeah that would be true if he could get a ground game,until he works on that,he want win another fight in UFC,unless they put him in there with another striker

Rob,there is a place for guys with great charisma,personality,no talent and star power.It’s call WWE!

I think there’s one more element that explains why he’s still around:

He has holes that can be exploited, but also has the ability to finish opponents in dramatic fashion. If the latter weren’t present, he’d be cut. I’ve never seen someone throw more powerful short punchens than Alexander did from the clinch with Jardine.

He’ll be gone after this though. Doesn’t sound like the motivation was there for him to revolutionize his game since we saw him last.

STARPOWER? So should all fighters be judged on their background and not talent? Should Kyle Maynard fight in the UFC too?

Fighters with a great back story and personality are always going to get extra breaks, but it’s nothing to fret over. Ability or lack thereof trumps starpower in the end.

so who is kyle maynard? i said starpower, not losers.. Houston came into the UFC with a great record and won 2 straight fights with 1st round KO’s..
Alpha what are you talking about?..
there is always a place for guys like that in every sport and in every TV show that is what it’s all about..
If it wasn’t we would be seeing fat mofo’s at 300 lbs taking over the show because they have more talent

get a clue, and watch other sports..

C’mon RoB,don’t take it badly!It’s ok,even if your fighter get cut by the UFC,that is not his death.You can always watch him in another organisation,and i’m sure that he,would appreciate it.Now don’t tell us to watch other sports because we are not agreed with you!You act,like a kid sometime,just like when someone is not in accord with your opinion you challenge them to come say it in your face,or your saying that your gonna crush them!So just chill we are just enjoying have an argument with you!

then don’t tell me to watch WWE..
WWE is crap!
Mexi tried to be smart and counter, but he does not understand..
Americans have another view at things just because sports over there are different, and ran in a very strange way, all based on money and business..

UFC is doing the same thing, they want to make money too.. that’s why Brock Lesnar got a title shot! because of his starpower not his MMA “talent”

Alright you got a good point there!BTW i wasn’t telling you to watch WWE!

I know, just trust me when im right..

By saying that Lesnar only got his title shot because of his starpower – are you also saying Brock Lesnar isnt a worthy champ?`- becuase even if his title shot was very early and other guys may have been in line – he deserves to be champ – hes the best HW in the UFC atm! FACT!

he is? he hasn’t beaten mir who happens to be the “real champ.”

fact my A–… just cause he beat Randy?

wel randy was the champ. Plus yea Mir beat him but i still believe Brocks a better fighter – it shouldnt have been stood up!

i guess only time will tell who is the undisputed champ!

but im jst sick of people who hate on Lesnar because he got the title shot – he won the match so he was good enough to fight for it and therefore how early he got his title shot was justified!

I do not hate on Lesnar at all, i like Brock alot..
but there have been several fighters that has been good enough to fight for a title but never did cause of their inmarketability.

Alpha Male 360 seems to like sounding like a little bitch!

yes kevin chill out.. nobody cares about loser Joe Lauzon or guys like that, guys like that wouldn’t survive a second on the street with their MMA, so don’t act like being an MMA talent is all that…
Houston is a “sick” fighter!

this isn’t “sickfightermania” it’s mma buddy!

yes they do fight in MMA..

your the douche saying they aren’t smart like Lauzon (who couldn’t survive on the street). Guess what, on the street, I take Houston or Kimbo down and pound them out, and so does Lauzon or Florian. What do you have now? I could care less who they root for realdrew, I’m just pointing out what I felt was obvious!

does Lauzon/Kenflo beat Houston?.. I just said that having a winning record and being a talent isn’t gonna make you all that… let him root for Houston and chill, he’s still an exciting fighter and a likeable guy no matter what anybody says…

I’m sorry kev, I may have misunderstood… did you just claim you could take out Houston or Kimbo in a street fight?

lol, I was making a point of taking them down, no I couldn’t, but Lauzon probably could!

but hell, with their ground game and my chin…you never know!

ehm, my prediction is that Houston would kill them with his bare hands.. MMA is a sport with rules and an entertainment/business industry..

I think Danzig lost 3 in a row?? Neer, clay , and someone else..maybe not

Wait, i was wrong…he is 2-2 in the UFC , but has lost 4 of his last 6!! wow..he should be gone soon, huh?

True but what I don’t like to see is a guy get tired because he didn’t train properly for a 3 round fight, that sort of thing is unprofessional. I’ll never criticise a guy like Franklin for his work ethic, anybody taking that sort of punishment from Silva would be done by the end of the round, but I don’t like seeing guys like Houston and Sokodjou train for a 2 minute fight then gas if they can’t immediately finish their opponent. I’m a big believer in working hard so I get annoyed when I see a guy that hasn’t trained properly or has come in with a poor gameplan gas in the early rounds, that sort of thing shouldn’t happen in top promotions anymore.

Agreed!I’m also too a believer of training hard and working hard.You should have no excuse to not be,capable to endure 15 or 25 min of fight when you know damn well in what your getting yourself into it.The thing is that we have so much different theory and practical of training,that it’s hard to know which,one is good for you and your metabolism.Just like,when your in the gym and everybody got their theory of what is good to do,everybody is coming with something to say.But is that the best thing for you?Everyone is different.Unless that you have your genetic code laid down in from of you.You,would never be,capable to know it for sure.Anyway that been said,i’m still with you to disapproved a lack of performance when you are conducting a physical activites.

the reason houston gets so tired is because hes far too pumped up going into a fight – his adrenalin is jacked up to the max.

this is a huge factor in his fights.

the adrenalin rush gives him a surge of energy more powerful than if he went in calm and collected…although this rush is used by houston in the 1st round in the 1st few exchanges so if he doesnt KO someone quick all his energy is sapped (uses up all his ATP/PC store – which takes 3minutes to recover atleast) Then he is tired and gets tooled around!

I agree he is just a street fighter, and will never be an MM artist until he calms down, and develops the rest of his game.

In saying all this, his fights are quite enertaining because you can always expect a speedy finish!

exactly not the most intelligent answer, it just makes him sound stupid.. and from the look of it he hasn’t changed his style one bit