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Comment by lokie
2009-04-15 15:08:47

Well anyone can put a video together making someone looke great in the gym. I def looks like he could be on track, but I wont be impressed until he shows up on fight night in shape, and ready to fight.

Comment by ricky
2009-04-15 15:20:40

ya i have to agree with you, just look at BJ penn, in his training he looked to be unstoppable, but ya we all saw what happend their.. i have confidence in shogun, he is very talented, i just don’t know how well his chin is against a hit from the ice man

Comment by Lester the Pimp
2009-04-15 15:29:04

Actually, i remember Penn looking pretty bad in his training videos.

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Comment by "I came, I saw, I conquered" - "Veni, Vidi, Vici"
2009-04-15 16:25:38

hahaha agreed, pretty bad may be an understatement, i’m pretty sure there was a huge uproar about him undertraining in that fight with the countdown and what not lol

 
Comment by ufcaddict
2009-04-15 16:51:40

i dont think he will gas … he hasnt had a lot of time to improve his cardio but it will definitely be better than it was last fight

plus chuck liddell is not really known for pushing the pace in his fights… he waits for his opponents to make the first move

 
Comment by ricky
2009-04-15 17:17:02

hmm not really, Penn looked good boxing, and wrestling, im not saying it was perfect but as the way it showed it looked like he was in shape, that being said Shogun will LOSE, im a big fan of his always will be, but his agressive W.Silva style was only good in Japan. In the USA you need to pick your shots way more carefully or its lights out for anyone. and chuck will go back to his old style of letting shogun come to him, only way i see shogun winning is if he submits Chuck(hence why he is training so hard with Mia)

 
Comment by RedDog
2009-04-15 17:28:23

I think he’ll gas as well. The Brazilians don’t condition the same way Americans do with the exception of BJ Penn who conditions like Brazilians.

 
Comment by kevin
2009-04-15 18:59:14

for those that care (not you matt) red sox/A’s pics from today are up! what in the mma world did I miss today?

 
Comment by MMACrossifre
2009-04-15 19:08:42

ricky — What made BJ appear lackluster in training (to me anyway) was when he mouthed off about how much better his training methods were. “I’m not pushing things, pulling things [like GSP]…” No, he’s training like a “real” fighter. Right. And then his clock gets completely cleaned. BJ would do well to just keep a low profile and train really hard. Like Dana White said, BJ has more than a few yes men around him, and are they going to call him on the carpet when BJ has his mind set on taking a vacation? He has a strong personality, and I didn’t see anyone in his camp that seemed to have a stronger personality. What he said went.

 
Comment by DAVE A
2009-04-15 20:40:27

Penn can never be in his best shape with that extra lbs. At 155 he can’t help but be in top shape.

 
 
 
 
Comment by BNF
2009-04-15 15:31:16

8 weeks to get his cardio up to par? Now I am positive he will gas again.

Comment by markg
2009-04-15 15:50:23

yeah the first 2 weeks wont improve cardio at all, it takes time to get into great fitness, he will prob have better cardio but not good enough yet,

Comment by BNF
2009-04-15 15:55:34

He should have started cardio work the day after the Coleman fight and he still wouldn’t even be all the way there.

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Comment by newfie
2009-04-15 15:59:53

not like chuck really pushes the pace…this fight doesnt leave the first round..with Shoguns hand in the air

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Comment by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"]
2009-04-15 16:57:25

Correctomundo! It takes years to develop the type of cardio needed to fight at full strength for 3 rounds. It’s a lifestyle. Ask the caveman named Sean Sherk.

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Comment by JonnyBoy
2009-04-15 16:39:22

He’ll gas again…
Before the Coleman fight he had fresh clips of him training and I’m not a Shogun fan and never will be but he looked very good.
The new clips on him training this time around doesn’t look better in any way.
Chuck by KO of the night.

Comment by Nick J
2009-04-16 05:41:55

I agree, i am not so easily fooled as some of the above posters. Its a bit deja vu with the ‘I’m back to my best’.

That image of Rua trying to lock in an Omaplata but being completely gassed is sticking in my head.

I think he will gas again and will end up a crumpled ball on the floor against the cage, losing a 2nd round TKO.

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Comment by ramon
2009-04-15 15:36:28

anyone else having LaG problems? this video needs more bandwith!

 
Comment by Adam
2009-04-15 15:48:45

Shogun will be in shape, and he will have the last laugh to all the doubters that he has right now due to his performance against coleman.

After Saturday, all the old Shogun nuthuggers will be back, OH they will be back!!!

Comment by sac165
2009-04-15 15:54:50

shogun WILL be in shape but WILL get knocked out too

Comment by Syd[a.k.a. "The Negation"]
2009-04-15 16:58:53

He’ll get knocked out while gassing!

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Comment by lokie
2009-04-15 16:58:33

Never been a shogun fan. I admit he has alot of skill, but If he does win this ill give him some props but Ill never be on his bandwagon. I just dont like the guy something about him just bothers me.

 
 
Comment by Robert(1)
2009-04-15 15:56:42

Chuck is “Dead Man Walking”

 
Comment by TRIKZ
2009-04-15 16:01:53

I hope shogun is ready. the ice man might knock him out.
I wanna see shoguns ground game again.

 
Comment by TKO
2009-04-15 16:03:22

Shogun with no soccer kick/stomps is Crocop without his high kick.

Comment by roy
2009-04-15 16:15:02

soccer kicks are not that important

Comment by JonnyBoy
2009-04-15 16:41:07

Exact, in Pride some was doing it but not many did it with great effect.

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Comment by roy
2009-04-15 16:46:42

plus for it to land you probally already did something good to have your oponent in that position.

 
Comment by JonnyBoy
2009-04-16 03:54:00

True.
There’s so many better things to do at a downed fighter, I admit that the soccer kick looks cool but if you really want to hurt the guy do something else.

 
 
 
 
Comment by MMArk
2009-04-15 16:26:33

No way in hell he beats chuck/// he looks like he will def gas again.

 
Comment by Jared
2009-04-15 16:30:57

i want the iceman to win but deep down i dont care if shogun does. im routing for the iceman to win becasue hes an mma icon and doesnt have much time left, the reason why im not routing for shogun is hes had two bad performances and i just generally think he will lose. aslong as this fight is exciting im happy

 
Comment by ShitleTot.com
2009-04-15 16:55:39

Nice video… I’m excited for this fight no matter who wins.

 
Comment by DownUnder
2009-04-15 17:09:56

He looks great, little bit less body fat to … this should be an interesting fight. If he comes out with the right cardio, it will be Chuck’s last fight. SHOGUN, TKO.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2009-04-15 17:11:17

There was nothing in that video that impressed me about his cardio. It just looked like regular training. No extreme stuff like wanderlei’s snorkel or Forrest’s rubber bands. Kicks and knees looked good, though.

 
Comment by orcus
2009-04-15 17:14:25

WAR SHOGUN!

Comment by tylerS
2009-04-15 17:29:26

WAR ICEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Don "The Prophet" King
2009-04-15 17:51:50

WAR FEDOR!!!

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Comment by Nick J
2009-04-16 06:35:01

WAR WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR!!

 
Comment by orcus
2009-04-16 08:57:48

Absolutely nothing, uh huh

 
Comment by Ca$z
2009-04-16 10:06:34

Say it again!!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by SoCalStunNa
2009-04-15 17:17:59

Both men need this win BAD!
A loss would more than likely send chuck into retirement and for Shogun, he’d be saying hello to Affliction/StrikeForce.

 
Comment by Gina's triangle chokes dummy :)
2009-04-15 17:29:23

Wow theres a lot of fighting experts around here i bet not one of you knows what it is like to train, so please leave your fighting opinions somewhere else and for the record everyones body is different so dont come here saying stuff like “oh now i know he is gonna gas” learn about the different metabolisms and body types before you speak tapout fans!!

Comment by BNF
2009-04-15 17:40:42

There are just so many things wrong with your post and name. You should be embarrassed…

Comment by Space
2009-04-15 21:44:06

What’s wrong with calling out keyboard warriors?

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Comment by MoonUK
2009-04-16 04:18:37

because thats the whole point of this website. Its about opinions and views on fights and fighters.

 
 
Comment by Gina's triangle chokes dummy :)
2009-04-15 22:19:27

You are an embarrassment to humanity!!

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Comment by MoonUK
2009-04-16 04:16:24

Ok lets not talk about fighting or training for a fight?

Right, well…. hmmmmmmmmm. do anything good today?

Comment by Nick J
2009-04-16 06:37:30

Ha ha, good one UK! Your so right. That is the whole point of this site to discuss opinions on fighters.

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Comment by andy
2009-04-15 17:39:56

man… shogun has some brutal muay thai.
those kicks specifically!

Comment by JonnyBoy
2009-04-16 04:17:02

Yes, for his last fight he looked just as good… what he pulls off in the gym looks great but if you can’t pull it off in the cage you’re done.

 
 
Comment by danny_c
2009-04-15 18:21:04

Damn it Shogun, you are still huffin and puffin in the video. Hands speed definitly improved, kicks and knees have always been sick. Body is still a little flabby. Where’s the nutrionist? He really needs one. I would say that this time he has enough gas in the tank for a sick first round that is of course if the iceman is up to the task. Chuck is all talk in his video “im going for the KO” my ass. I bet when the bell rings he wont come out banging he never really did, he waits for opponents to chase him and then punish. Shogun gameplan better be stick and move jab up front at all times and some real nice kicks, and as always avoid the right hand. WAR SHOGUN!

 
Comment by jayshogun
2009-04-15 18:39:52

Personally, I couldnt give a shit about the Anderson Silva fight. This is the real main event for UFC 97…a fight between these two two years ago would have been like no.1 LHW in the world vs. no.2 LHW. Both guys have lost fights since then and their seemingly indestructable image has been tarished. However, if Shogun is even 80% of what he was in Pride cardio-wise he will TKO/KO or submit Chuck – I’ve bet $100 on it I’m that confident. Also, I’m expecting a surge of ex-Shogun nutthuggers to suddenly rejoin the bandwagon claiming they always had faith in him…some so-called MMA ‘fans’ should stick to WWE.

Comment by lokie
2009-04-15 18:58:27

LOL stick to the WWE? LOL that shit sucks worse than Shoguns cardio.

 
Comment by JonnyBoy
2009-04-16 04:30:27

jayshogun are you for real???
I’ve been a fan of the Pride FC days and everyone can’t like every fighter and I sure wont jump any rediculous so called Shogun warwagon.
I didn’t like Shogun before, what is there to like now???
Shogun is going to gas, you’ll cry AND lose your hard earned money THEN after that YOU can stick to the WWE.
I wish this site uses login in the near future and that one can also mute or block the noobs, desk-wizards and the self acclaimed MMA-experts.

 
 
Comment by JR
2009-04-15 18:55:25

shouguns one of my favortie fighters im hoping he comes out of this with his hands up i can definitely see it happening …

WAR SHOUGUN!!!

 
Comment by scott
2009-04-15 19:31:58

I am, by no means a Shogun fan,but I have a feeling that we will see the Shogun of old.With that said I also believe that Chuck will be back to his old self, at least for this fight.I am predicting this to be one of the best fights of the year.I think Chuck will eventually catch him in the last couple of minutes of the 3rd round.

 
Comment by buckmarley
2009-04-15 20:29:24

shogun will be fine yes u can come in 2 days notice and beat mark coleman….yea he looked horrible but im sure he wont ever come into a fight like that ever again..hes smart enough to know whats on the line for him…i saw he knocks chuck down and gnp…or he catches chuck tryin to get up with a knee…all u chuck lovers with ur mohawks need to relaize hes done yea he has one punch knockout power but hes to slow he keeps his head in the same spot….shogun has good head movement…it will be a good fight but i see herb dean comin to save iceman…

 
Comment by Gina's triangle chokes dummy :)
2009-04-15 22:50:51

Im with you jayshogun, count me in, im aboard the shotgun bandwagon!!

 
Comment by remedy
2009-04-15 22:55:15

This video scares me being a huge Shogun fan. He doesn’t look that much different as far as his cardio. You can tell he’s still gassing and still slow. He throws two kicks and stops and takes a deep breath which reminds me of his last two fights. I don’t see Shogun improving his cardio all that much. He’ll gas again no doubt. I think it’s jusr a natural thing for him to get tired easily. Chuck will come with a gameplan to tire him and then go in for the kill.

 
Comment by aman
2009-04-15 23:02:06

I am really worried now for Shogun. He did not look good in this video. Those were some very basic things he was doing and I didn’t like his facial expression. He looked like he was having trouble doing them. He sparring also looked kind of crappy.

I am still rooting for him though. I hope this video was made a while ago. I hope he is much better now.

 
Comment by attakdog
2009-04-16 03:33:07

Saw Shogun in Ireland in January, what a let down. The guy was dead on his feet after the first round and only won because his elderly opponent was in even worse condition. I just can’t see anyway that his cardio will improve that significantly in three months to pose any kind of threat to Liddell. His only hope is to swing for the fences in the first round and hope he lands one.

 
Comment by yoububg
2009-04-16 06:30:18

I think that Shogun might take this one home. If Chuck is looking for a quick knockout I think he might get caught while trying. Training bjj with Damien Maia!!

 
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