“My feeling about the bill is that it’s a flawed piece of legislation. And my feeling about mixed martial arts is that there are many problems with it. It really is a glorification of brutality and violence. Many people believe that violence in the media, or any portrayal of violence, or violence itself as I think happens in mixed martial arts, in fact, makes people immune to violence and in fact promotes violence. In New York State, we pass a lot of laws to stop violence, especially among young people in schools, but domestic violence (as well). I think that this basically is a glorification of violence, but it certainly promotes violence. In itself, I think it’s a very brutal sport that creates, obviously, physical harm to the participants, and I don’t think there’s any other sport who’s purpose is to harm your opponent.”
Democratic Assemblyman Bob Reilly, representing the 109th district of New York, voices his opposition to MMAWeekly about Bill 1-11458-A, created to regulate the sport of mixed martial arts in New York - despite an independent economic impact study that indicates the UFC would generate about $11.5 million for the “Big Apple.” Mixed martial arts is currently unregulated in New York, and appeared to be on the verge of being sanctioned in 2008, but some eleventh-hour concerns from uneducated members of the Assembly Committee on Tourism, Arts and Sports Development scuttled its passage. Another session on the matter began in the state capital on January 7 and could be voted on as early as next week. Mark one of those votes “Nay” for Assemblyman Reilly.
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I guess he has never heard of boxing?
obviously not!
It amazes me. That small statement had the word violence in it 10 tens. A little over kill. Maybe we should show him Damian Maia clips and not Anderson Silva clips.
new york is not even worth worrying about guys… sure it would generate alot of attention and revenue but seriously the new york media and legislation is all just a pain in the ass… my parents live on long island and im out here all the time and i see what goes on. if there was ANY injury in a new york show there would be all kinds of BS media coverage all over it and i bet theyd try and make the UFC conform to all sorts of nonsense, forget NY, MMA is doing just fine
Brendan: MMA needs to be legalized in New York. The above statement from Bob Reilly is crock of shit. Promote Violence?!?!?!
” I don’t think there’s any other sport who’s purpose is to harm your opponent.”
Ok.. Boxing.. American Football.
In those two NY legal sports. In one the point is to hit your opponennt more times in the head then he hits you.. ” the standing 8 count “??.. that is violence.. you knock a guy down… his brain bangs off each side of his skull.. if he gets up in the time allowed.. he is to continue to recieve more shots to the head.. that is violent.. but legal in New York.
Football.. the point is to cause a collision. You get guys weighing 260lbs.. 2 to 3 tablespoons of fat.. put pads on them.. and have them run into eachother.. that is violence.
If MMA is illegal.. then boxing.. and football should be too.. IMO.
MMA to be on a world stage.. needs to be legal in New York.. this is the capital of the world.. every country in the world has news coverage in NY.
When the UFC comes and has an event at MSG.. the MECCA of Sports.. that is when no matter who and why they want to knock down this great sport of MMA.. can’t say nothing.. MMA needs to be in MSG! That will ultimately change the landscape of our sport.
Agree with Phil, boxing is way more detrimental to a persons long term mental health than MMA, just the inclusion of the ground work makes MMA that much safer. It’s also just a 15 min fight vs going 12 3 min rounds for an average of 36 mins fight. It’s only the presentation imo, the cage and the introduction of ground and pound to people that have never seen that type of fight before. This is only 1 quote from 1 guy; I’m betting MMA gets NY this year.
I really hope so.. with the rest of us fans that want the same thing!
You cant compare MMA to football just because people get hurt playing football… dont get my wrong, I love MMA and this guy sounds like a jackass, but he said a sport where the purpose is to harm your opponent, so boxing fits obviously, but in football and rugby, the purose isnt to harm the other team, it is to score more points than them.
You cant compare MMA to football just because people get hurt playing football… dont get my wrong, I love MMA and this guy sounds like a jerk, but he said a sport where the purpose is to harm your opponent, so boxing fits obviously, but in football and rugby, the purose isnt to harm the other team, it is to score more points than them.
I beg to differ,I am sure most americans played football ,and if you played defense you know that every time the ball is snapped their intentions is to hit the person as hard as possible,to knock him out,cause a fumble,make the receiver drop the pass.What is remembered the most in football,great runs ,great passes,and big time hits.Yes the point is to score ,but one side’s job is to do whatever possible from to keep you from scoring,that includes knocking the piss out of the guy with the ball.
1-0: Tru.. but to score puts.. you have to put a hurting on someone.. helmet to helmet.. you have to crack some1.. have to get to the QB.. if the reciever catches a ball down the middle and Ray Lewis has him is sights.. what is the outcome. pain. My point is Football.. is a violent legal sport. That is why there are sooo many injuries in the game of football. Players have semi Paralzed playing the game. 2 hand touch is a different story.
I think hockey is violent too.. that sport actually allows fighting to take place. Some hockey players train boxing..on the off season to get ready for scraps o nthe ice.
I like football.. Hockey is cool.. Boxing. .aight.. I love me some good MMA.. but MMA is illegal in my home state of New York. Killer.. on this tread made some great points..
My only comparison of MMA to Football is how Bob Reilly
thinks MMA is crime in progess.. and the sports like Boxing..KickBoxing.. Football.. and Hockey..these contact sports are like Golf.
Hey Phil, if I’m not mistaken the “sport” that results in the most injuries among highschool students is actually cheerleading. I saw a John Stossel report on it some time back. I don’t even like the argument about wether the intent is to harm your opponent or not, if the goal is to get a puck in a net, but you have to blow a guys knee out to get to it, thats just as violent. If the end result is physical harm (which is why we watch those sports to begin with) it’s no different than MMA.
Following are a list of legal “sport” activities that encourage, produce, or allow for violence, or at the minimum, risk of great bodily harm
1. Football
2. Hockey
3. Motocross
4. Soccer
5. Skiing (water or snow)
6. Rugby
7. Basketball
8. Boxing
9. BMX
10. Wrestling
11. Trampolines
12. Swimming
13. Baseball
14. Cheerleading
15. Pillow fights
16. MMA (except when Kalib Starnes is involved)
Fell free to add your own, or those that I missed.
Good stuff Bro..
I think we are all getting caught up on one statement, and kind of missing the point… MMA does not promote violence. Anyone who has ever practiced martial arts of any kind knows the first lesson is to avoid a fight at all costs, but to know how to protect yourself if in a bad situation. Martial arts at any level are healthy physically, as well as mentally and emotionally. To argue otherwise is blatantly ignorant!
I wasn’t aware we had a professional pillow-fighting league. Does it air on Versus?
Playboy channel…
Was just about to say it. I think more people get injured in f8cking football than they do in MMA.
Absolutely. In football there have been cases were the player gets paralyzed. Running backs have all sorts of problems when they get older.
It’s just a matter of perception versus reality. Uneducated people see all these bloody faces and think there is too much violence in MMA. When in football (which I am also a big fan of), there is a lot more damage being done to the body.
ProKev-
Nice post. Truth.
he says mma is all about violence and brutality and he hates it pretty much, but then he goes onto say he loves boxing. what do u do in boxing? punch your oppenent in the head as many times and as hard as u can right? this guys is an asshole who is talking out of his ass about something he has no clue about
Liberals.
All that needs to be said.
That’s crap. McCain was the original face of mma opposition and he’s a republican. It’s about education regarding the sport, not political parties.
Exactly,do not put the blame on democrats.As far as I remember it has been mostly republicans who have usually been against it.That is the reason it is still illegal in my state ,South Carolina,which is a republican state.Check the stats ,I am almosty willing to bet ,that all of the states that MMA is still illegal in except New York,is mostly red states.
could you elaborate on that?
MC Cain, was a voice of opposition at a time until he learned and watched a little more. He is on record changing his position to a more open minded stance.
But yeah Liberals is all that needs to be said.
Only until he was trying to win an election,was trying to get the youth vote,and he knew that he if kept his stance on this issue,he would have lost the conservatives people that support MMA,because UFC would have been talking about it on their shows and asked everybody to vote for Obama!Like we did anyway,which was a rejection of your republican party.
Typical of a conservative to say this. That’s all they resort to. Unnecessary cheap shots with no evidence to back up their inane claims.
Just a few questions if anyone knows…
How many people have a say in this legislation getting passed?
Is it based on a majority vote?
Does each assemblyman have to base their claims on any actual facts about the sport like any normal bill or is it based on a matter of opinion? cos if so thats BS.
To be honest I cant believe NY has taken this long to get on board! They are a modern state and the sport is proven NOT to breed violence but to give young people an exciting SPORT they can develop in as well as learn discipline.
Violence is seen differently from person to person and it should only be based on actual facts about the sport regarding serious injuries, deaths, of which Im sure there is many more in other sports.
Dana should send this dude some hookers. They worked for Spitzer.
Also, I read on another blog that even though MMA is now sanctioned in North Carolina, the mayor and city council of Concord, NC has banned MMA. Here are the links to the story:
http://mma4real.net/2009/01/13/concord-north-carolina-bans-mma/
http://www2.mooresvilletribune.com/content/2009/jan/09/concord-bans-extreme-fighting/c_2/#comments
Bob Reily is a Feeagg….He should Man up and attack the financial district, Thats where all the Hate and Greed is created. The atheletes choose to do this, They are not slaves forced to fight for the rich mans pleasure.
Some people just like to fight. They like combat. I don’t understand why each martial art has been accepted but when they are tested against eachother in a legit sport, it is human cockfighting. Not all of it may look professional, but it is a young sport and when you see guys like GSP, BJ and Anderson Silva; how can you deny that its legit?
Football…. Rugby?
American Football, just, like always, Americans have hijacked an English word and distorted it so that it makes no sense. Yeah, cos American Football is really Football…. weird Americans if you ask me. How does American Football even get the name “football” in the first place?
Nonsensical diatribe anyone?
Rugby rocks. Nothing wrong with a little violence amongst gentlemen.
this is dumb dumb dumb.
boxing is legal in NY
kickboxing is legal in NY
wrestling is legal in NY
Judo is legal in NY
Jiu-Jitsu is legal in NY
This is ridiculous.
people are scared of reality.
I’m sorry but I’d rather see Kobe Bryant and Lebrone James fight then have a lay-up contest.
lol, nice points!!
Quote for motherf’n Truth baby!!
That is the truth.. Killer!
I would rather see LeBron and Kobe play basketball. They are the basketball equivalent of GSP, A. Silva, BJ, etc.
I want to see real MMA athletes practice MMA.
Your post is excellent except for the last line.
Basketball players suck at fighting. Most of them have such long arms that anyone can see the punch coming from miles away. Then everyone steps in to separate them.
I get the point, but it was a bad choice of ballers. Kobe and Lebron are both well known for throwing it down, hard. The layup contest would be between Steve Nash and Tony Parker, and I’d rather see them fight
Nice. That guys a douche.
My father-in-law is a state senator and a conservative person at that - and let me tell you he loves MMA, comes to all my jiu-jitsu competitions, sometimes even comes to classes i teach and most importnantly supports my 7 year-old son, his grandson, with his junior JJ classes - he LOVES coming to watch him…..this guy is a typical “i have nothing better to do then make a stink about something” politiician…..its a shame because he gives alot of politiicians a bad name and its not true.
No need for your balls in this state… Cant believe they allow the garbage they have on TV with guns and life altering violence and they have a problem with sanctioned MMA.
There are definitely more deaths and serious injuries in other sports, but I guess people like this care about the intentions more than actual results. “The intention is to harm another human being” argument is one I’ve heard a million times now. They say it promotes violence. I say that, even if that’s true, it’s better to have kids fighting than shooting one another. I can’t honestly say that MMA doesn’t encourage young or stupid influential people to fight. This is why I dislike the dishonarable behavior of fighters like Rashad. If you’r the one trying to argue with someone like this, it would help to sell the sport as one of discipline, honor, and respect. I guess some statistics would be in order to hopefully shut down the idea that it encourages violence. Just shouting our opinion back isn’t going to cut it.
Okay - I have no stats. How about I send him my Karate Kid movies along with my collection of David Carradine staring in Kung Fu?
Seriously, if an economic argument will not fly, nothing will. What type of stats will be helpful? I agree, the Rashad like stuff makes it hard to establish credibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iaamkUEF_A
You’re link to this violent show just encouraged me to beat my wife. Good job TepedUpPair
LOL…it was that dam pebble wasnt it?? = )
criminology stat’s. Some criminal justice major could write a thesis on the effect violent sports have on youth or something to that effect. I’d be interested. You could have a large control group of non-mma/boxing fans vs a large sample of fans. Research their police records or have them report physical altercations through a questionaire. Either way, I love MMA and want to see it. I’m just saying, a little research would be nice. Otherwise, it’s just us saying MMA is good and them saying no it’s bad. yes it is….no it’s not….
i hear yah - empirical evidence instead of us charlatans.
I am thinking this is more about image than anything else. But it only seems appropriate to have mma in madison square garden
Your are right, Punchster! I’m not a soccer fan but, I’ve seen a gozillion riots ensue during and after the games! These are large crowds of untrained people fighting with no referee or rules! And no protective equipment! I hereby vote “NO” to soccer in the state of New York!!!
He has definitely never heard of boxing. As well 2 people have died playing hockey in the last week alone. Maybe the goal of hockey isn’t to hurt the opposing player or team but none the less people are still dying. 1 person has died in a sanctioned MMA bout in North America. How many people have died playing other sports or have been seriously injured? Far more than in MMA.
If you live in New York, now is absolutely the time to be writing letters to elected officials.
It’s stupid MMA is one of the most sanctioned and cautious sports out there. If the ref feels a fighters done he can stop it whenever he wants to. These guys chose a lifestyle of combining martial arts, and all there hours in the gym should be allowed to be on display for bigger audiences. FUCK WHO IS EVER HOLDING MMA BACK FROM NEY YORK and WAR MMA
Idiocy at it’s finest!
well if you were fan of mma you would be complaining because im sure everyone wants to see ufc 100 in new york
This is crap mma i just a sport they have so many rules so people wont be seriously hurt, but his ok with boxing were people just stand in front of each other and punch each other at least in mma there is grappling. I also have never heard of anyone ending up messed up at the end of there carrer like ali did.
i wish everyone would get past this sanctioning crap already. “bob” is getting publicity out of this, plain and simple. unfortunately promoters, fighters, and fans are all going to have to deal with the fact that this is a sport in its infancy and growing pains are a part of evolving . im not saying i agree with bob, however, hes an idiot. but this is only one of the many issues that will continue to plague mma until it becomes to big and too mainstream for politicians and other critics to even try and halt its growth. fortunately, in this case mma will obviously win this battle sooner rather than later. even though alot of politicians may agree with bob, there are many more that being crooked politicians they are simply thinking of the revenue it will generate, especially somewhere like new york. its a winn win for the ufc and ny. after ny theyd better start working on ontario, believe me, canadians love mma, if serra gsp 2 is not enough of an example wait til u see a sold out show in TO.
Not to be politically incorrect, but I thought the Japanese owned most of NYC?? You would think that this would have easy passage. Does Bob really think he wont get reelected if he supports this bill? With the Giants knocked out of the playoffs they are going to need some entertainment = )
WAR Eagles
Their post-Philly loss entertainment was destroying cars, videotaping it and posting it on Youtube. and by the way, it’s my Chosen People who own most of NY, not the Japanese.
accually could you elaborate?
More people are killed in SOCCER than any other sport in the world. These people need to be educated about the discipline that MMA brings to individuals.
More people are killed during bowling
soccer your kidding right?
I think he meant fans are killed during riots, not players during the games.
When will these dinosaurs realize that MMA is here to stay? I guess we will just have to wait for these close minded old farts to die off before the best sport on the planet finally becomes part of the mainstream. Pretty ridiculous that they still dont even report on MMA in the newspapers or network tv sports shows.
i live 10 min. from mr reilly’s district territory and in early 2007 i met him personally. a group of us from an old high school class went to the state capitol to discuss the unrelated topic of stem cell research with him. despite the fact that he ultimately held a differing view on the matter than us, he also showed himself to be an extremely wishy-washy politician who talked his way out of tough questions.
throughout our conversation he proved to hold stances and ideologies on subjects that were obviously wrong - and his lack of research and reasoning was obvious. it seemed his smooth talking and likable demeanor was what solely had got him to this point. it does not surprise me at all that he would take yet another uneducated stance.
FYI……what MCCAIN was doing back in the early days was right..the sport was dangerous,and all he wanted to do was get it sanctioned..JUST LIKE DANA DID….Even Dana said MCCAIN was 100% correct… Liberals fuck up everything….
I’m sure you will find many liberals who are fans of mma.
Liberals like seeing one man in another man’s full guard or take a rear naked mount. or something like that.
You can send a man to Congress but you can’t make him think. Arguing with a guy like Bob Reily, who has closed his mind to MMA, is like administering medicine to the dead.
what a dick!!
Ice Hockey- can fight on the ice, yet its not actually a part of the sport “ice hockey”!!
Nascar/formula 1- Can drive in excess of 200mph, cars blow up and drivers die horrific deaths….no problem there!
soccer/rugby/american football…loads of career ending injuries on a weekly basis, yet once again its not seen as a part of the sport, just accidental injury?? right ok like they guys arent trying to hurt each other??!!!!!
Every other combat sport… Loads of injuries that are very similiar in mma, yet hey are governed???
Free style rock climbing- Where you can basically climg as high as you want with no harness, guess what…if you fall your fucking dead!! Thats ok though!
Need i go on, its a very petty argument i’m forming but its the theseuerstand our sport!! Its NY’s loss, thats about the only outcome I have, and its because there is no credable acknowledgement of the sport of what is known today as mma, and the changes made since the infamous “cock fighting” days.
sorry for the end, bloody keyboard went funny and wouldnt type correctly!!
New York needs to ban all movie theaters as well as all major news networks if that’s really how they feel. How dare these few people inflict their uneducated opinion on an entire state!
Most deaths happen in fishing
Manswers
Let them try and take mma away
Good luck
The military glorifies brutality and promotes violence too but I’m sure this senator is not passing legislation to ban people from joining that.
EXCELLENT POINT!!!!
I GUESS THIS GUY NEVER HEARD OF HOCKEY!!! OR BOXING!!! OR FREAKING THE CONCUSSION PRONE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!!
I NEED 2 FIND THIS GUY!!
THEY TAKE TIME OUT TO FIGHT IN HOCKEY!!! WTF?!?
Just last night my boyfriend suffered a concussion while playing hockey….we were at the hospital till 1 in the morning. I’m going to sue the government for not making hockey illegal. What an outrage, don’t they know that ice can be slippery and people can hurt themselves?!
Seriously, this man is an idiot and is obviously uneducated on mma.
thank you , i agree 100%
Hogwash. This is an insult to anybody with a brain. There are plenty of combat sports out there.
boxing is ok,
wrestling is ok
muay thai is ok
bjj is ok
but the minute you put these sports altogether it becomes MMA in the state of NY and it becomes illegal
the funny thing is there are plenty of mma gyms in nyc and long island, but here in UPSTATE NY (Albany NY) there are almost no mma gyms
the only two gyms i know of near where i live are 45 mins away in Saratoga
1 of them is owned by Ricardo Almieda and Renzo Gracie
wow…the people who voted this guy into office should feel really secure about their decision. In his hatred towards mma he completely ignores other sports of violence that are sanctioned in his state. What is he gonna say next…yeah, I uh say the world is flat, because I uh can’t see any curve in it….uhhhhhh duhhhhhhhh. What ya wanna bet he gets violently nasty with a hooker several times a week.
Fuck these corporate bitches…i hate them all…
has he ever heard an interview after a boxing match. And mma is violent?? Randy Couture speaks perfect english. Cant say the same for Holyfield. mma is rough but not deadly. Boxers punch eachother in the head for 12 rounds. Sure the UFC was rough in the early days but now they wear gloves and go only 5 rounds tops at 5 mins a round.
Speaks “english perfectly”.
perfect english also works
am i wrong anyone?
He makes some good points. Hard to argue with his logic.
MMA is a “glorification of brutality and violence.”
That’s why it’s popular with most viewers.
We, as the “hardcore” fans, don’t look at it that way…but, next time there is a fight on television and you are at the watercooler at work the next day…listen to the majority of what people are discussing…they aren’t talking about how good Machida’s sprawl is, or how well BJ transitioned from triangle to armbar…their talking about how Stevenson painted the canvass with his own blood.
It is “glorification of brutality and violence.” There is nothing wrong with that statement.
Hey people…have any of you considered that there are more injuries and deaths in other sports than MMA, because there are 1,000,000 more people playing those other sports?
Just a guess, but I’d say if there were as many MMA fighters as hockey players, or football players…there’d be way more injuries and deaths in MMA than those sports.
I think if you count every person that competes in Mma around the world, it’s more than how many people compete in football, or basketball, or hockey. Martial art has it’s roots in every major civilization. Mma is in europe, asia, south america, north america, and new york is coming soon.
hopefully!!!!!!!!
Not a chance.
Individual martial arts, at a recreational level…maybe.
Not MMA (especially competitive)…not a chance.
Mma is in every major continent thats the truth. Sorry to burst your bubble but yea Football, and Hockey are not, Futbol is, MMA is.
You are seriously saying that there are more competitive MMA fighters in the world than there is football or hockey players? lol
Introvert- Are you implying that mma be banned because of the multitude of serious inhuries? Yes, obviously mma fighters sustain a plethora of injuries, some of them fatal. But I’m also going to take a guess and say that the total number of “injuries” and deaths resulting from smoking, alcohol, obesity and inactive, unhealthy lifestyles FAR outnumbers that of mma fighters. No one is prepared to ban Twinkies and Doritos- why ban mma events?
I’m not saying it should be banned, I just agree with the “promotes brutality and violence” statement…because it’s a true statement.
I love MMA…why would I want it banned?
F#ck, there’s 1696 players in the NFL alone.
College, CFL, High School, Arena, etc….
And that’s just N. America.
Not even close.
“It really is a glorification of brutality and violence.”
Gee, many people felt the same way about “The Passion of The Christ” movie.
I don’t understand why the UFC thinks it needs to be in NY! And I say to you Mr. Democratic Assemblyman Bob Reilly,…………. COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ALREADY!!!
Look, we are all fans of the sport. But to pretend it doesn’t glamourize violence is just a fan looking through rose coloured glasses.
All I’m saying is that he is correct in his statement. Are there worse things in the world than watching an MMA fight?….hell ya. But, you can’t stop every influential teenage, ganngster wannabe, kid from viewing impressionable television or listening to impressionable music, because music and television have been around forever…but, you can limit whatever “new” impressionable forms of entertainment that are trying to become mainstream. That’s obviously what they are doing in NY.
When is the last time some teenage kids with baggy pants hanging down to their knees, hats on sideways, wearing a Tapout shirts, watched an MMA event (either live or at home) then went out and helped an old lady cross the street? Do you think the combination of an inpressionable punk kid, and Kongo beating some guys face in, is more likely to aide that kid in becoming a saint…or a sinner?
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7955&zoneid=2
Most of this interview has to do with money, and the impression on an already violent society anyway. Not so much physical harm or injuries on fighters. But, in typical Mania fashion, they only posted the most contraversial statement…that would get our dander up.
1.Napolean Mccallum - McCallum dislocated his knee, tearing three ligaments, ripping his calf and hamstring muscles from the bone, and incurring nerve and artery damage.In surgery, doctors were concerned that if the operation did not go well, his leg could have to be amputated. In the end, McCallum endured six surgeries, including two knee reconstructions.
2.Mike Utley - An injury to his sixth and seventh cervical vertebrae occurred in a game against the LA Rams on November 17, 1991. He would later learn he was largely paralyzed from the chest down.
3.Tim Krumrie - Krumrie may perhaps be best known for suffering one of the most dramatic football injuries ever televised, a shattered leg during Super Bowl Super Bowl XXIII against the San Francisco 49ers. The breaks to Krumrie’s leg occurred when Roger Craig’s knee smashed through both lower leg bones. Krumrie suffered two breaks in his tibia and another in his fibula. A 15-inch steel rod was surgically implanted to stabilize the leg.
4.Joe Theismann - Theismann’s career ended on November 18, 1985 when he suffered a gruesome comminuted compound fracture of his leg while being sacked by New York Giants linebackers Lawrence Taylor and Harry Carson.
5.Kevin Everett - Everett’s injury was a fracture and dislocation of the cervical spine, resulting in injury to the spinal cord.Orthopedic surgeon Dr. Andrew Cappuccino described the injury to Everett’s spinal cord as a “scissoring” or “pinching” injury, caused by dislocation of the third and fourth cervical vertebra.
6.Darryl Stingley- Suffered a hit that compressed Stingley’s spinal cord, breaking his fourth and fifth vertebrae. He eventually regained limited movement in his right arm, but spent the rest of his life as a quadriplegic. The injury came just after Stingley had finished negotiating a contract extension that would have made him one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL. The new contract was to be announced when the Patriots returned from the West Coast. Instead, it was never signed.
This is just a small list of the violent injuries suffered playing football. Maybe they should get rid football because it seems to be a pretty violent sport.
I hear what you are saying, and I agree…it’s violent. But, it’s established, historic, and an American pastime…MMA isn’t.
You have to remember that the main goal in football is to score touchdowns…the main goal in hockey is to score a goal…the main goal in MMA is to render your opponent defenseless and either knock him out or tap him out…big difference.
Do you have kids?
Why beat around the bush?
Obviously there’s a second part to your question…ask it.
…and, no, not yet. Probably soon.
I just i want to know if you’ll allow your kids to practice martial arts and compete?
Yes, I would. I do it, so I’d be pretty hypocritical if I didn’t let them.
Tai Chi does not count
As compared to your “keyboardwarrioroshido”?
I would also let him/or play hockey, football, soccer, golf, darts, pool, cricket, badminton………
You probably wouldn’t since you agree with OLD Bob here that mma promotes violence. Well what happens violence finds you.
It is violent. Doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy it. I train in MT and BJJ, and would have no problem with my kids doing the same, and if they wanted to pursue it further, then so be it.
Why do you guys have such a problem admitting that combative sports promote violence? They are “combative” sports for God’s sake lol.
Is “OLD Bob” wrong when he says this?
The sport is about trying to punch people in the face, kick them in the head with your shin, choke them until they either tap or pass out, and trying to tear ligaments in their shoulder. In fact, I emplore you to name one aspect of MMA that isn’t violent…other than Machida or Starns’ running away…that doesn’t count.
*if*
You have to remember that the main goal in football is to score touchdowns…the main goal in hockey is to score a goal…the main goal in MMA is to render your opponent defenseless and either knock him out or tap him out…big difference.
Well your only half right on that because your just looking at it from and offensive POV, as a defender your job is to stop them from scoring. You can’t tell LB and DB aren’t trying to hurt QB, RB, or WR when them coming running at them full speed and try making a highlight type hit. Also you can score more points in a MMA fight and win.