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Comment by GSPRush
2009-01-11 11:13:19

does this mean the winner of the fight this weekend is gonna drop to 185 again to fight bisping?

lol @ the race scene.

Comment by R/p
2009-01-11 11:26:53

Yes; sad isn’t it?

I hate Bisping (I think he has talent though) and it’s funny every single person that hates him can all pinpoint their hatred for him beginning at the Hammil robbery.

Comment by jj
2009-01-11 12:54:43

I was the same way until I watched all of tuf season 3.

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Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 11:33:44

It’s pretty strange to say the least…a fight at 205 to determine who drops to 185 to fight Bisping.

What happens if Franklin beats Hendo and Bisping, and Silva is still the champ at 185? A 3rd beating at the hands of Silva?

Doesn’t make sense at all if you ask me.

Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 12:14:41

introvert, I couldn’t agree more! I’ve called this all the way back from last year (trackback new guys), that Bisping will fight Henderson/Franklin, then Silva. I have the same problem as introvert but for different reasons. I’m a Bisping fan, but how is it that two LHW’s, and former champions, fight for the right to drop to middle weight to fight basically a nobody? Shouldn’t Bisping fight for the right to move up to LHW to fight these guys? I like how honest he was in who he’d rather fight and his predictions too!
got the DVR set for wed!
bj bj bj bj bj

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Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 12:24:29

comments jesse “man of mystery.”

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Comment by Jesse Holland
2009-01-11 13:19:29

The Giants are playing the Eagles. Be prepared to spend the next three hours in Moderation, K-dog. Unless of course Mania is finished hanging upside down in his basement like a bat.

 
Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 13:23:17

I’m watching the game…bet the eagles big!!

 
2009-01-11 15:34:37

I did a straight up $150 on the Eagles with a dude I play cards with. Even though I’m from L.A. they have been my team since I was 12.

 
Comment by john
2009-01-11 16:25:45

and What a gREAT Bet that was Kevin! U know I am from philly and I blead EAGLES Green…. I loved that win! NO one wants to play the Birds RIGHT NOW!! We r winning the superbowl this year! Bet that!

It all started with the Phillies breaking the long drought! Now its the Eagles turn, and no one is good enough in the NFL to deny us this year! Eagles D will be Foaming at the mouth!

 
Comment by kitsunex
2009-01-11 21:45:02

if the eagles play like they did today next week, the cards are gonna walk all over them. they Eagles played like Sh!t

 
Comment by john
2009-01-12 08:48:52

r u retarded? Eagles defense looked Stellar this afternoon! Defense wins Championships. Cant think of too many defense that would have shot down multiple 4th and short situations against the Giants and their Huge backs, and amazing offensive line!

U must be drinking that Cardinals have a run game Kool aid! Thats a bunch of Crap! We will easily shutdown there run game and we have Assante Samuels who is the biggest Pimp in the play offs right now next to Ed Reed!

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2009-01-12 09:31:59

Congrats John.. I respect the Eagles.. I love my Giants.. but have no respect for how they played.. how on earth are you the #1 seed in NFC.. bi week.. home field.. and not score a touchdown.. not 1??

= (.. John I couldn’t bare to watch after the 2nd qtr.. I would just switch the channels back and forth.

Your like a Brother John.. so Congrats!

Just don’t be too overly conifdent against the Cards.. they have momentom.. and are playing at home. They are not bad at home.

I would like to see either a Cards vs Steelers SuperBowl.. or a the battle of PA..

Now.. I hope the Steelers win.

Yep.. I’ll root for your brother’s team. = )

 
 
Comment by Robert(1)
2009-01-11 16:40:22

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Comment by Robert(1)
2009-01-11 16:48:50

Sorry got cut off….Rich vs Hendo is a solid fight but this doesn’t make sense to me at all….Rich just said he wants to test the waters at 205 after the UFC asked to do so…..and now after 2 fights he is dropping back down if he wins? Why would he want to win? Suppose he knocks off Bisping and losses to Anderson again. I rather see Bisping fight Anderson and Rich stay at 205 and then have Hendo fight a top 5 185 pounder and fight Anderson again, regardless of who wins this Saturday.

 
Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 21:43:55

yes, Franklin needs to turn down the TUF coach thing but now i guess it’s too late if he wins the fight… and even if he were to do that, he’d probably get a horrible time cause of Dana..

 
Comment by GregC
2009-01-11 22:49:30

I’ve said it before, but I think that Henderson should be the coach if he wins (because a rematch between him and Silva would still be interesting), and Marquardt should be the coach if Franklin wins. Franklin should stay at 205, at least until Silva retires.

 
 
 
Comment by ehoglund
2009-01-11 12:32:09

Evans vs Jackson to headline UFC 100

Comment by WB
2009-01-11 20:36:27

Where did you hear that? I hope not, suppose to be the biggest card ever and that’s the headline? WEAK!

Don’t get me wrong, a great fight but not the superfight I was hoping for.

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Comment by otis marsango
2009-01-11 17:19:21

i like dana but the fights dont make sence bring back tito to fight chuck if he hates him watch his ass get ko and shogun 185 2 fight anderson if he wins fuck bisbing he cant even beat rashad who should be at 185 but danas blogs r badass. the peole who watch mma dont no about reel fighters like wanderlie and shogun if it was pride rules win wanderlie knocked chucks ass 2 the ground he would have stomped on him so many times he would retire and he always says tuff guys r good but thin k about this u have 20 guys a show r something but out of 160 r some number u have like 5 good guys jardin rashd forset and a few more its bull shit and ther all fucking stupid jerking off in food and fucked up shit bring back nick deiz 2 fight rob lawler have houston fight drew mcfedres have demon mia fight pual haris and tell kenny folrens bitch ass to stop cheeting and grabing the fence and cuting people like a bitch make him fight sherk if he wants a shot at bj irvin vs ladell r irvin vs vera sory about the spelling my cpus buttens r fucked up

Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 19:07:48

“Rashad should be at 185?” are you serious?

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Comment by Robert(1)
2009-01-11 22:19:33

it’s not worth it Kevin….I thought about it “clueless”

 
 
Comment by john
2009-01-12 08:50:14

YOU should try adding a period in your posts every once in a while!

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Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 11:14:50

Nothing like the president of a mainstream company yelling f#ck this, f#ck that at the main entrance of a hotel in public.

Classy as usual.

Comment by Dana White
2009-01-11 11:27:09

Feeling left out? Well fuck you to then, ok? You happy now?
If you dont like it, then dont watch any of my fucking programming.

Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 12:17:40

hhaha, Dana White.. I agree with introvert!

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Comment by the still operator
2009-01-11 16:31:30

ha funny shit

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2009-01-11 19:37:23

YEAH DANA!

 
 
Comment by Jared
2009-01-11 12:22:26

whats the point of having a fight at 205 and advertising in the countdown that the winner moves farther in the lhw rankings and than having them move to 185 to be a coach. hendo would have an easier time dropping down but what if rich wins, hes been building his muscle up just for nothing? doesnt make sense

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Comment by Beaver
2009-01-11 14:01:35

It’s about time the head of a company act’s like himself and most of it’s fan’s even better they don’t edit it out like other sports. UFC is for real and so are it’s fan’s why can’t Dana act like a fan even though he’s the president? It’s a free country Mother F*@$ers. Well then azgain with UFC’s huge fan support and still rising speak what we want to see a that’s the truth. F*%$en A mother F%$@ers.

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Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 14:20:48

so the UFC is better than every other sport? because of Dana White.. oh pls, the only thing UFC fans like you are gonna achieve is getting punched in the f’in face!

 
Comment by Beaver
2009-01-11 15:15:13

What we see off the field or outside the ring or cage because of Dana is more real than any other sport. What other sports hide UFC shows. The owner UFC is it`s biggest fan can any other sport say that.

 
 
Comment by connor
2009-01-11 15:28:04

hahahaha, that intro cracked me the hell up

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Comment by R-Dizzle
2009-01-11 11:54:42

Oh wow. Introvert is hating on Dana White again. What else is new!!!

 
Comment by Psyqo78®™
2009-01-11 11:56:54

Intro, why even watch it if you hate him that much…… I just don’t get it….

 
Comment by fokman
2009-01-11 11:57:18

I guess you also missed the part when he got a standing ovation from the crowd after seeing a video of Dana and his f#ucking mouth. lol

Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 12:27:02

And I’m sure they were all Ultimate Fighting Fans….like you.

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Comment by krusty
2009-01-11 18:08:46

hater

 
Comment by JB
2009-01-11 18:58:07

probably. what on God’s green is your point? mauxronne (as they say in french).

 
 
 
2009-01-11 12:14:03

Introvert, are you writing this from Church today? You know that’s a sin right?

Comment by JB
2009-01-11 18:59:47

whoa. are you saying church and mma don’t go together? blasphemy.

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2009-01-11 19:58:31

He was opposed to Dan’a potty mouth so I thought maybe the preacher was over his shoulder.

 
 
 
Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 12:15:57

the only reason you don’t see other presidents (including G.W. cussing is because it’s all edited! It’s Dana’s schtick man!

 
Comment by R-Dizzle
2009-01-11 12:31:57

Since Introvert never responded to this before, I figured I’d post it again.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/mma/boxing/12/10/calzaghe-dying.ap/index.html

Top 3 p4p boxer says the sport is dying. Hmmm, who’s opinion should I value more? Some kid on the internet who constantly hates on the UFC, yet spends half of his day on an MMA site. Or, um, one of the top p4p boxers in the world. Hmmmmmm.

Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 14:14:43

R-Dizzle who cares about boxing? the UFC is trying to compete with other sports.. and just for the record 13 million germans watched the Holyfield vs Valuev fight..

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Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 14:18:14

the difference is that boxing’s still bigger, and their fighters a hell of alot more.. when the UFC has been there and done that we’ll see..

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Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 14:18:39

oh not the UFC i meant MMA.

 
 
Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 16:01:35

I don’t hate the UFC, I think Dana is an ass-clown though.

This is only partially an MMA site…mostly Ultimate Fighting site.

WTF does boxing have to do with this subject anyway?

Pulled that one right out of your ass didn’t ya?

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Comment by R-Dizzle
2009-01-11 18:04:35

It’s because you were “debating” people previously on the topic of boxing dying, but again came with no actual evidence to support your claim. You also never responded to that post, so I figured I’d post it again. Enjoy!

john posts random stuff in EVERY topic, so no one come to be about being off subject.

And RoB.. I don’t judge the success of a sport based on the amount the participants are paid. If that were the case, I’d be watching NBA games instead of NFL games right now.

E-A-G-L-E-S.. EAGLES!!!

 
 
 
Comment by krusty
2009-01-11 18:04:36

Way to be a hater. He’s a regular guy, he just is who he is, no PC crap. Dana’s the man

 
 
Comment by McArthur
2009-01-11 11:16:56

weak sauce

 
Comment by john
2009-01-11 11:21:50

I am really looking forward to this BJ penn countdown show! I love GSP, but not when he is up against the Prodigy!

how is Dana filming the ultimate fighter without knowing who the other coach is? Only thing i can think of is that since Bisping is the English coach, the “other coach” wont have to be present at the Team England Elimination fights.

Kind of a disappointing video blog. I could do without watching Dana act like an idiot. I prefer the more fight related blogs….come on Dana, step your video blog game UP!

Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 12:20:44

idiot? Don’t you and your buddies make stupid bets? I do it all the time! I thought it made him look like a regular guy (to an extent), especially after seeing the christmas blog!

 
2009-01-11 12:41:56

He said that Franklin and Hendo were going to be in England for that day or a day filming since they dont know who’s the coach yet. They will probably use that as part of the story or just edit out whoever loses.

 
Comment by Natas
2009-01-11 13:11:22

No is forcing you watch. If you don’t like it, it’s as simple as stopping the video.
The Blogs always start out like this and I hope they keep it that way. ;)

Comment by Natas
2009-01-11 13:12:13

Damn keyboard!!
*No one is forcing you to watch*

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Comment by JB
2009-01-11 19:03:25

you didn’t like the idiot stuff? what is dana without the stupid crap he does and then him and his cronies laughing like idiots at it all with him? to me, that stuff is golden. i loved this blog. i still say the one where they keep rewinding and watching lorenzo’s fall at the weigh-ins is the best one yet. but this one was excellent.

 
 
2009-01-11 11:23:05

It would have been awesome if after they introduced Dana at the Spike thing, he walked in and told everyone after they stopped clapping “OK, you can all sit the fuck down.”

 
Comment by charlyw
2009-01-11 11:47:43

DW is so full of himself he deserves a belt – taped around his mouth.

2009-01-11 12:10:35

“I hate successful people who enjoy their life. I’m not successful…booo…hoooo”

Comment by the still operator
2009-01-11 16:37:58

lol p.y.i.t.o. sucks dosent it. makes me want more in life. i want to make stupid bets 2.

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Comment by DB
2009-01-11 12:04:23

good stuff.

 
Comment by iann
2009-01-11 12:14:53

i dont know why
but i think its kinda sad
dana is focusing more on bj/gsp then hendo and franklin
dont get me wrong i think gsp adn bj will be a sick fight but fuck hendo and franklin is gonna be soo sick
and that fight is so much closer

 
Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 12:19:53

he will get his own show on MTV soon..

 
Comment by sawyer
2009-01-11 12:23:23

Love him or hate him, approve of his language and antics, or disapprove, it doesn’t matter. Dana White is a MAJOR reason why the sport we all love is where it is. I’m betting most people who read this are fans within the last 2-3 years. I saw the first 10 UFC’s on PPV back in college. It isn’t even the same sport now! I studied Karate and BJJ for more than 5 years, before there was even the lable of ‘mixed martial arts’ and the way one approaches training isn’t the same as it was even 5 years ago. It is so much better, and every year more progress is made in the sport and how the public sees it.

Sorry but Dana and the people he has surrounded himself with are most of the reason for that. I don’t agree with everything he does, but we only know maybe 1% of what is going on behind the scenes.

I love these blogs, they give you a good feel of many different aspects of the sport and the top organization in the sport we all love.

Dana, keep showing us the behind the scenes, it is great and makes me appreciate things even more!

Comment by mwd
2009-01-11 17:17:59

this reminds me of when people have to turn every comment into something about how they train mma. y do people feel the need to brag about how they saw the first ufc… u r cool

 
 
Comment by Lester the Pimp
2009-01-11 12:29:37

boring stuff.

 
Comment by jj
2009-01-11 13:01:09

my favorite part is when dana says something along the lines of “I remember watching boxing as a kid and not being able to see the best fighters fight each other because the promoters couldn’t work together”.

 
Comment by ActionJackson
2009-01-11 13:03:53

i love how dana says the one thing he didn’t like about boxing was that the superfights that everyone wanted to see never happened because of the promoters. hmmm… sounds kind of fedor… i mean familiar.

 
Comment by Jackelope
2009-01-11 13:09:07

In the past I’ve always been critical of Dana White. However, it seems like he’s really focused on his image in the last year. It’s had a very positive impact on his image in my eyes. These “behind the scenes” video blogs have been a good look at the man behind the hype videos and “fuck filled” rants. Dude is truly living the life. I’m thoroughly jealous. Best of all through these videos he comes off as just a regular guy. (Albeit with boatloads of dough)

Him making Penn vs. GSP happen right now despite the number one contendership of both Alves and Florian is a tough choice, but it’s definitely the right one. Can’t wait for this matchup!

 
Comment by Freddie
2009-01-11 13:40:05

Anyone know how to watch these on the computer. 4PPV’s in one month is just too much… any ideas? Dont get me wrong, im always buying the PPVs, but 4 is just too much.

Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 14:29:58

yea sure download it the day after.. or go to channelsurfing.net or something like that and watch it live

Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 14:43:20

justintv, ustream or channelsurfing. I’ve bought every ppv for years, but will be “ripping this one and affliction and buying Penn/GSP!

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Comment by Randy for Couture
2009-01-11 14:02:27

Sick idea for UFC 100 would be having all the Titles on the line i.e. match ups for the Lightweight belt, Welterweight, Middleweight, Light heavyweight and Heavyweight. it wud be unreaL!

Comment by BritishBulldog
2009-01-11 14:35:52

Lots of people have said this. The problem is a load of titles were done in one PPV a few years ago and they were all 5 round snore fests so it was dull and over ran. also it means there would be no other title fights for at least 8 weeks either side so the other cards that summer would be lame. I think a few three round fights on the 100 card are a good thing-it adds some urgency and with less on the line more risks are taken.

 
 
Comment by radimus
2009-01-11 14:26:44

I cant wait to see Shogun!!!

 
Comment by Tony
2009-01-11 14:53:52

Bispings first fight against a world class fighter (Evans) he done good but didnt push the pace enough because he wasnt the same fighter he is now in this division! he is faster and fitter and more explosive so with the better attributes he has in this division maybe he could turn on a great performance and win Franklin or Hendo. Bisping said he thinks Franklin will win but a better fight for him is Henderson. thats exactly what ive said for months.

 
Comment by Tony
2009-01-11 14:57:05

I think everyone thinks its just stupid that Franklin or Hendo have to move down weight. but the show need to be at middle weight this time imo.

 
Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 16:28:29

Since R-Dizzle is so bound and determined to make this a “boxing vs MMA” discussion, let me give my take on how Dana is involved in this whole deal….

Dana White (and his followers) spend every day shitting on boxing, and let me explain why I find this so amusing.

The usual explanation from Dana is that boxing has “too many promoters that don’t allow their fighters to fight each other, and we don’t get to see the best fights”….fair enough…and I agree.

The general consensus on how to solve this problem would be to have one governing body, instead of 20 different so-called titles (i.e. WBA, WBO, WBC, IBF, etc…), that way boxing could crown one guy in each division as a clear cut champ…and all fighters could compete for that one title, therefore fans get to see the “best fight the best”.

Of course, there’s one BIG problem with that…the promoters want to make their money, and of course with my suggestion of merging all boxing into one governing body…that isn’t going to make them their money. So, they say “no way”.

Now, to the UFC and MMA as a whole. The UFC is a promoter not unlike any boxing group (WBA, WBC, etc..) and Dana is the voice of that promotion. There other other promotions willing to let their fighters fight UFC fighters, but of course the UFC stands nothing to gain by letting a fight like that happen (just like boxing)…”what if the other guy’s fighter beats mine, I’ve got nothing to gain from this”, says Dana…”so fuck that.”

The funny thing about all of this is that Dana is the one bitching about how boxing “doesn’t have the biggest fights, because of all the promoters and different titles”, but he is the one that is acting exactly like a boxing promoter by not allowing cross-promotion in his very own sport.

Enter WAMMA (as much as you guys will laugh)…they are a prime example of exactly what boxing needs in that sport (1 governing body). It’s been tried in boxing before, but promoters do not want it…I mean, why on earth would the WBO want to allow a guy with the “Ring Magazine” title ride their coattails, when he may not deserve it? Just like the UFC will never accept a governing body (WAMMA or otherwise).

The point I’m trying to make is that Dana White is not going to be the saviour of MMA, like some of his fans seem to think. Dana White is talking shit about boxing, but at the exact same time he is taking the sport of MMA down the exact same path that boxing went down…..no cross-promotion. Dana is not the saviour…he is the opposite.

I do not blame him or the UFC for not wanting to cross-promote, nor do I blame the WBC or WBA, etc…for not wanting to go down that road either…but the fact of the matter is that the UFC not wanting to go down the road that boxing most likely should have gone down…..they are destined to make MMA the exact same as boxing…it’s clear as day.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. ” -Benjamin Franklin

Comment by JB
2009-01-11 19:12:59

blah, blah, blah. and dana has cross-promoted before; with PRIDE and sending chucky over there where he ended up going 2-1. if the other org offers competition, then it makes sense to compete with a rival. problem is, affliction, strikeforce, all of these orgs are not on the level with UFC like PRIDE was. and sorry, blowing the bank on one marquee fighter does not make you a competitor.

Comment by kevin
2009-01-11 19:22:35

good post! If affliction offered Fedor to Lesner in say 15 months he’s in

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Comment by Machine
2009-01-11 20:00:42

JB-

It’s true what you’re saying about Chuck in PRIDE but it needs to be put in perspective. Chuck going 2-1 is a huge reason why the UFC hasn’t cross promoted since. Now, had things gone the other way and Chuck went 3-0 over there i guarantee the UFC’s cross-promotion perspective would be vastly different.

Also, let’s not forget that at that time PRIDE was the bigger of the 2 promotions. Much bigger. In my eyes it was more a case of Dana trying to build Chucks star by trying to prove his fighters are superior, thus drawing new fans to his fighters and his brand. All while riding PRIDE’S coat tails. Much in the same manner that Dana now accuses other promotions of doing to him.

Introvert-

Good post. Of course there’s more to it all but your post is an excellent summary.

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Comment by introvert
2009-01-11 20:02:49

I think you missed my point. I’m not arguing that the UFC doesn’t have the bulk of the best fighters, that’s true…but, so did the WBO at one time. We are seeing slowly but surely, very good fighters leaving the UFC for a number of different reasons, and that trend will continue as long as the UFC is ran like a boxing promotion…which it is.

I just find it funny that people listen to Dana’s “boxing is run by a bunch of idiots” jargon, and they take it as gospel…but when it comes to the biggest reason boxing is in trouble…Dana is doing the exact same thing that caused the trouble.

It’s very ironic, and plain to see that Dana is just a boxing promoter in MMA (er…Ultimate Fighting) clothing.

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Comment by RoB
2009-01-11 22:06:14

best f’in comments ever!!!

 
 
 
Comment by BrutalKnockout.
2009-01-11 20:18:34

You have wayyy too much time on your hands bro. haha.

 
 
Comment by Irish
2009-01-11 17:35:35

Is anyone looking forward to the next bisping at all????? i am i think its gona be a great no matter which one he fights

 
Comment by mo
2009-01-11 19:50:01

Its so funny reading all the bitching, almost everyone has a point, reason being we all have a point of view! Thats what these forums are for, there are no grades and no right answers, you guys have to remember that. Just because you think your right doesnt mean you are!!!!

Back to normality, I love the blogs they cheer me up and make me feel like im getting to know how things work, its fun to watch!!

Has anyone seen WSOP 2008 yet?? How funny was the ICEMAN at the feature table, he didnt have a clue how to play poker!! Wish i could afford the $10,000 to play at it, playing like a maniac with 6/2 off suit and hitting 2 pair, then telling the pro what you have and still getting the call lol BRILLIANT!!

 
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