Kill or be killed: MMAmania.com exclusive conversation with UFC lightweight Joe Lauzon
By: Penny Buffington
What a difference massive nationwide exposure on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) can make in the life of a mixed martial arts fighter … just ask season five alum, Joe Lauzon.
“It was ridiculous,” Lauzon explains about the difference before and after the Spike TV reality-based fight program. “You’ll be going out and just get stopped by random people who say, ‘I watch you fight and I saw you fight.’ It’s just kind of weird. It’s kind of unreal.”
Lauzon is used to the real world — he is self-proclaimed computer geek who was working full-time as a network administrator prior to his Octagon debut against Jens Pulver at UFC 63: “Hughes vs. Penn 2″ back in 2006.
The Wentworth Institute of Technology graduate from Brockton, Mass., was supposed to serve as a sacrificial lamb for the former lightweight champion. “Lil Evil” was supposed to challenge for the 155-pound title, which the promotion recently resurrected after it was dissolved in 2002.
Lauzon apparently didn’t get the memo, drilling Pulver in the first round with a punch that basically ended the fight. Life as he knew it would never be the same.
“I had just started a full time job,” Lauzon explained. “I’d only been training for like two years … but I was training all the time. I was very ready to fight Pulver. I was doing all the motions. ”
He had the option after surprise win, which was one of the biggest upsets at the time in the history of the sport, to either continue competing in the UFC or become a TUF contestant. He chose the show and was among the early favorites to win the 16-man tournament-style series.
Lauzon was selected by coach BJ Penn to compete on the blue team against Pulver’s yellow-colored squad. And it appeared that he was on the road to the finals before being overwhelmed by the takedowns and wrestling of Manny Gamburyan in the semifinals.
It was a bitter pill to swallow. But sometimes in defeat fighters learn more about themselves than in victory. Lauzon certainly used the loss to his advantage.
“After I came off the Ultimate Fighter reality show I went back to work for a little bit,” he explained. “But I just couldn’t take it. I was training twice a day on the Ultimate Fighter reality show and it was driving me nuts not to be able to go to boxing or be unable to train in the morning. The fact that I had to go into work first and then I could train after. I just couldn’t take it. I couldn’t handle it. It was like, I’d be sitting there: Oh this is a waste of time. It sucks. I want to fight. This is what I should be doing. I don’t want to slip behind. I quit my job and have been at full-time ever since.”
It appeared to be the wise move — Lauzon was enjoying a six-fight win streak (three inside the Octagon). But, of course, in the UFC no good deeds go unpunished, Accordingly, the promotion rewarded Lauzon with a fight against perennial top division contender Kenny Florian in the main event of UFC Fight Night 13 in April 2008.
Unfortunately, the fight did not go according to plan. In fact, when we asked him about it, he revealed that nothing really went right that night in Broomfield.
“Kenny is good,” he said. “He beat me up pretty good. I thought I was going to win that fight. I thought I had the first round. I thought it was really close. I don’t know if it was nerves that got to me. Maybe altitude played a role in it. There was a whole mess of things that went wrong. I get fouled, the ref takes away my take down and I don’t understand why. I’m not going to hype up, ‘Oh I want to fight him again,’ but I wouldn’t mind it at all.”
He’ll have to wait — Florian is expected to challenge for the lightweight title once again after going on to defeat Roger Huerta and Joe Stevenson after besting Lauzon. In the meantime, he’ll have to settle for another former number one contender Hermes Franca.
The two aggressive fighters are slated to headline UFC Fight Night 17 in Tampa, Fla., on February 7. It’s another opportunity for him to shine and leap to the next level, but Lauzon knows that it won’t be easy.
“It’s a huge fight — Hermes is super dangerous,” Lauzon remarked. “He plays possum pretty much the entire fight. He pretty much just sits back and lets you do your thing then he comes with a vicious overhand or a ridiculous arm lock. He has always got cardio through the whole fight. He is dangerous.”
He knows he needs to be at the top of his game and prepared 100 percent to knock off the feisty Brazilian.
“I’m working with guys who are heavier than me, who have that style, but can explode and stuff,” he said about he pre-fight training. “Lots of boxing, trying to deal with the different combinations that he is going to throw, that he is going to come with. I’m trying to make sure my defense is good. I don’t want to get hit with any of those crazy bombs.”
Bombs indeed — Franca has demonstrated his punching power, which is somehow overlooked because of his jiu-jitsu prowess. But as Spencer Fisher, Ryan Schultz and even Gabe Ruediger could attest, Franca hits hard. He’s without a doubt one of the most well-rounded and experienced fighters in the division.
Lauzon, however, is no slouch himself.
“I’m dangerous everywhere,” he said. “I think I’m pretty unpredictable. I think I do quite a few different things well. I think I adapt very, very well. There has been certain times where I have done something in a fight or a grappling tournament that I have never done in training — never — and I’ve gotten a win with it. So it’s dangerous when you are fighting somebody like that. I think I’m a lot bigger than him. I’ve got a reach on him. I think there will be a pretty noticeable size difference and that is tough, too.”
If his record is any indication, than Lauzon is right on the money. He has never gone the distance in 21 professional bouts win or lose. He either finishes or gets finished. It’s that “balls to the wall” mentality that more than likely is the reason he is featured in high profile bouts.
February 7 will be no different.
“I really like to get in and get out,” he explained. “I like to be the aggressor. I like to push the pace. I want to have an exciting fight. I don’t like putting things in the judge’s hands. I like to go out and push the pace. I’d rather lose, if the other guy is better, rather than try to squeak out a decision.”
Spoken like a true engineer.
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I really hope that he knocks that ugly ass hair off of Franca. I like this kid and think that he has major potential. Go on Creepy Joe.
For some reason I cant stand Joe Lauzon. Cant think of any reason for the hate but its there. I loved it when Kenny was smashing elbows into his head. I dont think hes got anything for Franca and will be glad to see him get submitted or KOed.
did you see the picture of the back of joe’s head after that fight? nice sized gash right on the back. ref wasnt smart to stand them up but i think florian would have won anyway. hope joe knocks franca the hell out
Creepy Joe hahahahahhaa
Joe comes off like this cute lil geek that all the chicks like and with a flick of a switch becomes insane but smart . I really thought he would of been further ahead in the game , dont know it its his girlfriend or boston roots slowing him down in the UFC but he`s young enough to pull off anything in his future if he stays with the show. Im an Evil fan and when Joe knock evil out my beer went flying and I was screaming like a banshee …..but it wasnt cause evil was down but rather who was standing up . I became a fan that day , your a crazy ass dude Joe .
Keep it up man
dudes a cool guy hope he beats franca
I really like J-Lau too, but he’s gonna have his work cut out taking on Hermes Franca. Still, I’m thinking he’s got a pretty good shot.
The key to beating Hermes is great wrestling to stiffle him and burn out his cardio. J-Lau’s wrestling is average at best so a ton of work cut out for him. His best hope is to keep it standing and use his speed.
Nothing against Joe but I dont think he has what it takes to be a champ. Saying that, I hope he beats Franca.
i agree with that, but most of my favorite fighter will never be champs, lauzon, fisher and davis
Franca has lost to smaller guys before (edgar) if you can wrestle well you can beat Franca as long as you can stop his submissions and keep him on the bottom of side control or something you should do ok. Franca usually comes in with that big right and i think there is a takedown just waiting to happen
Joe keeps getting better and will destroy Franca by ground and pound, but I’d rather see something exotic from Joe’s tool bag like a flying ankle lock.
I want Joe to win and get back on track, this is his first fight since the Florian fight right? A win over Hermes is a nice thing to have on your resume as a LTWT (ex WEC Champion). But i know i wont be seeing Lauzon/Penn most likely so for the sake of good fights and Hermes getting 2 in a row, maybe 3 or 4 in a row over Top Tenners leads to another Title shot by 2011 against BJ Penn, thats a fight id like to see, Penn still wins it, but its better than some of the other LTWT options the UFC has to offer. I hope he keeps both belts and if he keeps winning i hope Penns schedule will look something like this;
Penn/Pulver (155)….W
Penn/Stevenson (155).W
Penn/Sherk (155)…..W
Penn/GSP #2 (170)….
Penn/Florian (155)…
Penn/T.Alves (170)…
Penn/GSP #3 (170)…. (GSP will move to MLWT after he loses again)
Penn/Sanchez (155)…
Penn/Kim (170)…….
Penn/Clementi (155)..
Penn/Hughes #3 (170). (As the last guy to beat BJ at this point)
Penn/Griffin (155)…
Penn/Parisyan (170)..
Penn/Koscheck (170)..
Penn/Franca (155)….
Penn/Davis (170)…..
Penn/Pellegrino (155)
Penn/M.Torres (155).. (If Miguel moves up id love to see it!!)(BJ leaves the LTWT division after this fight)
Penn/Sanchez #2 (170) (If the first one was a war then a 2nd at 170 would be even better!) (BJ leaves the WLWT division after this fight)
Penn/GSP #4 (185)…. (BJ makes his MLWT Debut against GSP!)(At MLWT BJ would weigh 174ish, very fast!)
Penn/A.Silva (185)… (A MLWT Title fight for BJ’s 3rd UFC belt and P4P #1 determiner!!)
Penn/Machida (205)… (At LHWT BJ would weigh 182ish, biggest he can be and Win) (BJ would have at this time Won all these fights, and if Machida has the LHWT belt at this point in time then BJ would own 4 out of 5 belts in the UFC!)
I would then think BJ would retire with 4 out of 5 UFC belts and all past losses redeemed but if the right HVWT at the right point in time came along in the UFC (Not Brock or Fedor!!) he would come out of retirement to fight him. A Big Nog type HVWT, that was a bit smaller though, someone he had a real chance against and a real chance at getting all 5 UFC Titles to motivate him. PLUS more history making! And if some “young gun” that was the “talk of the town” came along in any weight class i could see BJ wanting a slice and coming out of retirment for it. Hes crazy enough and good enough to do all these things, but anything can happen in this sport and the key to this future schedule is WINNING ALL OF THESE! IN A ROW!! . . . Unlikely is an understatement! Everyone loses, EVERYONE! But BJ has already gotten that “must have loss or losses” on his resume and obviously the last one changed him, i guess the question is “Will he lose again?” and honestly, as many analysts and fighters including 2 of the best IMO, Joe Rogan/Randy Couture, have said “A motivated BJ Penn is the scariest fighter on the planet” And folks, thats exactly what we’re dealing with!
Thanks for reading this if you did all the way to this point, i put a lot of time into it for you PENN FANS this morning, hope you enjoyed it, and sorry it wasnt about the all important “Joe Lauzon” like you party poopers will complain about but you’ll live. BJ BJ BJ!!!
*And this is only including UFC possible fights, i wish Nick Diaz (155) or (170), Shinya Aoki (155), Jake SHields (170), Gomi “Again?” Takanori (Any weight he wants!), Joachim Hansen (155), Gesias Cavalcante (155), Carlos Condit (170), Eddie Alvarez (155), were all in the UFC for fights with BJ Penn! BJ BJ BJ!!!
Can you please repeat that?
= )
Agreed!!!! once you remove all the 170 fights. Imagine this -BJ’s look of desperation and frustration with GSP on top of him. Then Goldy hits us with -”GSP considered BJ his greatest obstacle to date but he is absolutely dominating him here in the 1st round.” Joe Hogan proceeds to tell us -”A lot of people thought this was going to be close fight but.” while goldy plugs my bloody valentine then suddenly yells “BJ’s rocked” when we can all see that he isn’t but he’s eating a ton of elbows. I could go on but i think i should keep the end a surprise;)
Sounds pretty close to the truth there NNR. Have you got a crystal ball too??
I dont usually like using mine cos it ruins the mystique on the night but I just had too for this one!
Like you my friend, i didn’t have the will to not look. haha!
no, he fought i thnk it was klye bradley recently, well like a month or so ago
Put it up MANIA, . . . watch this = )
everyone fell in love with Joe when he kicked the shit out of little evil