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Again with this?
his manager said “devastrating”
Mr Roach did not say much and certainly was not pumping AA up. The manager was doing all the talking and his only purpose was to promote the fight.
Not worth watching.
they haven’t even fought and fedor is winning….shut up and fight. talk is cheap
I respect Freddie Roach a lot, but someone needs to remind this guy again that this isn’t a boxing match. Arlovski needs to be working on his ground game. If Roy Nelson was able to control him on the ground the way he did, he doesn’t have a prayer against Fedor on the ground. As for AA going to be the Buster Douglas of MMA, thats laughable (cue sit-com laugh machine). They seem to forget to mention that Arlovski lost to Sylvia twice, the same Sylvia that was dismantled by Fedor in under a minute.
I wonder if they have been working on the ground extensively and this is all just mind games.
Even if that turned out to be the case, Fedor would dominate Arlovski on the ground no matter who he trained with for this fight.
If they were smart…
I mean, if they really believe Andrei’s hands are better than Fedor’s, there should be no worry about the stand up aspect of the fight.
They need to be concerned about the ground game.
It would suck pretty bad if after all of this, the fight lasted less than 2 minutes because Andrei got submitted quick.
Fedor is going to either jack up his arm or break his ankle.
arm bar most likely scenario…but please mexi, don’t use the “he lost to sylvia who lost to Fedor” argument….MMA MATH does not work. You are better than that.
P.S.
Boycott WAMMA bitches!
yeah, cuz i mean, Arlovski gets subbed ALL THE TIME!
I can not wait to see jaws drop wide open as arlovski taps out when fedor applies any submision he damn well pleases in the 1st rd
I dont understand what all the hype is about concerning arlovskis hands his striking against rothwell looked like shit and was no where near an elite boxers level when he thows his hands are down one well placed counter punch and you have arlovski/sylvia II all over again
I agree when comparing to a boxer AA doesn’t look impressive boxing wise……. but he still has the best boxing when speaking in MMA terms. That being said, I still think this is a good match-up that I can’t wait for.
Nelson didn’t do shit to AA on the ground and neither has ANYONE else. AA has NEVER been close to been subbed. Guys like Werdum and Cruz were to worried about getting KTFO to even think about submitting him. He KOed Cruz sitting down, that’s serious power. How many guys can do that. Saying AA lost 2 fights mean no more than Serra beating GSP, because they both were destroying guys before and after their slight laps. Fighters are human and go through the same ups and downs as everyone eles. You forgot to mention AA destroyed Sylvia in 47 seconds when he was in his prime, not when he was washed up and can’t even win a fight anymore like Fedor did. AA has really rounded out his game lately and has been taking down wrestlers and has added vicious knees(Rothwell)and high kicks. Fedor has never fought a guy as well rounded as AA, nor anyone with his pinpoint one punch KO power. The 2 best guys Fedor has beaten are CC and Nog. Nog can’t even strike a match and CC ground game was nonexistant. Fedor has finally met his match with AA and could very likely lose. Fedor is going to walk right into that sledgehammer of a right hand, good night.
Heres the video where Arlovski gets reversed on the takedown and does nothing for nearly the first 3 minutes while on the ground except for let Nelson pass his guard and get his attempts to get up failed as well. Your argument is laughable.
http://www.mmaroot.com/andrei-arlovski-vs-roy-nelson-elitexc-video/
Denial is a bitch sometimes.
yes, he got reversed. first of all, shot in the dark here, but i don’t think andrei is gonna try to take fedor down. second of all, nelson is fat as hell. what would you have suggested he done? how do you even move with all that lard on you? lastly, there was no threat of submission, that’s why it was stood up. you can even see nelson let go of the arm right before the stand up. lastly, being layed and prayed on is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the same thing as being dominated on the ground.
you hit the nail right on the head.
Agreed… If Fedor reads all the hoopla about AA’s stand up.. and buys into it.. could be an amazing fight… if it goes to the ground…AA lasts 20 sec. at best.
Best thing about the video: Cochise by Audioslave
Great choice.
Awesome video! Fedor can lose, and I’m sick of all the comments here. I’m the biggest AA fan, and when I read people trying to discuss him, the amount of ignorance is infuriating.
Not worth watching? Your comment is not worth reading.
Did they also forget to mention AA dismantled Tim impressively first?
If you have nothing intelligent to offer, don’t bother. They did a great job with this video, thanks for posting.
Yeah, Tim beat him first, then got TKO’d by him their next fight, then lost to him again in a pretty boring rubber match. I like AA as well as Fedor, but just because he beat Roy Nelson (who was dominating him on the ground before he was wrongly stood up) and Ben Rothwell, that doesnt mean you have a chance of beating Fedor. To think that would definitely be a big demonstration of ignorance and lack of intelligence. Next time come up with a better argument than Arlovski beat Big Dumb Tim once out of three times.
Yeah, Arlovski beat him first*
you seem to forget that it was Andrei that took the fatboy down and nothing else, that was a huge mistake by Andrei and he won’t do it again in this fight.. Andrei’s takedown defense is very good, so it’s not just for Fedor to come in and take him down.. the one thing i’m concerned about though is Andrei’s standup defense he’s a great offensive striker but leaves himself open while throwing his punches..
MMA math does not work, and you are greatly exagerating Nelson’s ‘dominance’. He fell into a good position and did nothing with it, so much so that he got stood up. The fact is Fedor is facing one of the best in the world, and he’s in some serious trouble. When I read comments like this I die a little inside at the stupidity, and I know I should not respond, but I just can’t help it.
No guy, I guess you werent watching the fight or have no concept of the ground game being that Arlovski, while just lying on his back, doing nothing but get reversed on a takedown attempt and lie on his back doing noting in for almost the first 3 minutes of the fight and was almost kimura’d. Arlovski tried to get up twice but instead was kept down in side control fro the majority of the time he was on the ground. In case you need to watch the fight again, here is a link to it:
http://www.mmaroot.com/andrei-arlovski-vs-roy-nelson-elitexc-video/
Everyone on here questioned why the ref stood them up. It was a bad call on the refs part. Also, the case you make for why you feel Arlovski is going to win is horrible, not making one valid point or citing any facts aside from the fact that AA beat Tim Sylvia once out of three time. Talk about stupid (I guess the saying “ignorance is bliss” is true). He has no ground game, he will get either sub’d or TKO’d be a flurry of stronger, “less accurate” punches by Fedor. You sure you aren’t his goofy manager Billy Keene with all this nonsense you are spewing? Either way, thanks for the input. Your opinion, which is grossly unsupported by any specifics or facts (aside from AA beating Tim once out of three times) is noted. You may go now.
See I know I should not respond, but again…
I never made a case for why AA would win, if you read properly instead of leaving 50 comments on every thread you would realize that. I was saying there are many facts they did not point out in the video, him destroying Sylvia being one, not just his 2 losses. I only said Fedor can lose and that AA is one dangerous man. The fact that you say he has no ground game proves you know nothing about him. He is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time plain and simple. And I don’t need the link, I have watched the fight with Andrei himself and he gave commentary, so it’s pretty fresh in my mind, ‘guy’. But I’ll be sure to tell him what you think next month when I train with him.
Again, I know I should not respond, but…
I’m not trying to make a case for why AA will win. You would realize this if you read correctly instead of posting 50 times on every thread. All I said was that he is one of the best heavyweights of all time and Fedor is in trouble. I pointed out that there are many things the video left out, like his destruction of Sylvia, not just his 2 losses. The fact that you say AA has no ground game shows you know nothing about him or what you are talking about. I don’t need that link, I have watched the fight with Arlovski himself while he gave commentary, so it’s pretty fresh in my mind, ‘guy’. I don’t need to have facts to prove who AA is if you have followed mma at all this decade. But I’ll be sure to tell him your opinion when I train with him next month.
Tell him I know a good doctor also that he can hit up after the Fedor fight. He will get him off medical suspension in no time, well depending on how easy Fedor lets him off.
Agree with Mexi -AA is not at the top of his game and this is a must win for Fedor.
Fedor is a great fighter. you dont go 28-1 and not know whats going on but every dog has his day and on the 24th this dog or shall i say PITBULL will have his.Andrei will beat Fedor.
its time to put this dog down by fedors left and right aka the pink shots
Wow…his manager is an idiot.
I mean, I love Arlovski, and I actually hope he does beat Fedor.
But come on…this guy is on crack.
Yeah, the Buster Douglas comment was pretty crack headish.
AA should use some of his “phenomenal” punching power and ko his retarded ass manager
Right!!!
it seems like when he fought big ben a lot of his boxing tactics kind of went out the window once ben was dazed and aa just brawled for the win. people also forget that aa has really strong low kicks which would be effective with most of the people he fights but not fedor. aa’s only chance in my opinion is flash ko(never been done against fedor) or avoid and out point fedor for 5 rnds. i just dont think it’s gonna be a good fight for arlovski cause fedor is too aggressive and can take more punnishment.
AA’s striking is real real sharp and obviously he has KO power. The question is if he can connect perfectly on the jaw, because if he does not he will probably find himself seeing stars on the floor. Fedor can take plenty strong punches to the face as any elite Athelete can.
On the floor if it goes there he will get the classic GnP by Fedor then Arm bar once hes been softened up. Either way i cant wait to see what actually goes down come the 24th!
Roach looks like he’s taken to many blows to the head himself. The guys got a real weird look in his eyes.
He’s got Parkinson’s dude.
I honestly had no idea. That explain it then. Thanks.
yup, good ‘ol park’s will do that to ya
The manager needs to take Andrei’s big peepee out out his mouth.
Dan “Stevia” Quinn?
I was thinking that he looks talks and sounds like an inbreed hillbilly then I see the about post that he has parkinsons, oops. He was hard to understand, I agree though that AA stands a great chance of winning if it stays on the feet but fedor didn’t get where he is by being stupid. If he knows he’s getting out classed on the feet he’ll take him down. I’m pretty sure fedor wins this one but would be pleasantly surprised if AA pulls it off.
The guy has Parkinson’s man Fuck sake!!
look at this foto:
http://www.mixfight.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1037&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=210
at the forum, go back one page to 14. its a russian site, but the comic strip is in english and its hilarious! definetely worth a look.
I’ve posted that
lets go arlovski!
I know alot of people will disagree, but I think Andre is taking this one. Fedor has to get beat sometime. Andre might be the one to do it. It may sound foul, but I could see Andre pulling the upset. Since his last fight with the UFC he has seemed to be back to his old self. before all of the Timmy b.s.
I hate to say it but Arlovski is a dead man, this fight will go to the ground and its a wrap from there.
Althought they both have a sambo background, I’m of the thinking that Fedor is just gonna be to much of a load for AA. Fedor by tko round 3.
This could be AA last fight in MMA, Man I cant believe people that thnk they know are actually saying AA has a chance. This is mind boggling to me, Tim Sylvia is 10 times tougher than AA and he lasted 36 seconds. Andre has no heart and is scared already, if you dont want to waste your money dont even buy this PPV. The rest of the show should be good but the Main Event will be a 30 second lesson in destruction.
What’s mind boggling is the ignorance in suggesting Fedor will destroy AA in 30 seconds when he couldn’t finish CC, or any other top 10 guy for that matter. I think it’s fair to say Timmy is no longer a top 10 and is washed up. AA is Fedor’s toughest test to date and I think after the first 30 seconds you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Nog went the distance with Fedor twice so I hardly think AA will be his toughest fight to date, not even close. He went the distance with Cro Cop as well, so when AA is kissing canvas within the first minute you will see.
I’d like to see AA pull this one off. Seems to be a lot of old pride fighters falling off latley IE crocop wandy hendo …..maybe fedor? Prly not but I would be happy either way the fight goes.
Man, I hope Freddie “Cock” Roach isn’t trying to use AA to prove that boxing is superior to MMA! Because, it’s absolutely not! And to think so is just plain ignorance! I hope AA realizes this and brings his MMA “A” game! If so, I do believe he’s gonna take the victory! But, if Roach has got him training to go in their and box for five rounds, or land that one heavy shot to drop Fedor, AA will be very disappointed at the end of the night! I really like Fedor, but, I hope AA wins! AA is my favorite HW fighter!
This is a great, great fight and the perfect match up for Fedor since AA is possibly the current #2 HW in the world now that Nog got wrecked by Mir. So, when Fedor decimates him, no one can any longer for the love of God say that Fedor hasn’t been fighting anyone.
AA does have very solid boxing and a great overall game. He’s also very athletic for a HW. Doesn’t matter though, because Fedor is going to tear through him. AA is too tentative to beat Fedor. His only chance is to land one on the button early. Anyone think Fedor is chinny? I’d say he’s got the best chin in mma, right alongside BJ Penn. And no one commits to his strikes like Fedor. He may not be as technically sound from a boxing perspective as AA, but he brings those sledgehammers with extreme prejudice. Then he finishes guys on the ground with the same force of will.
The fact that this is a fight for Russian pride, more or less ensures that Fedor will come in looking to annihilate him. When he does I hope his detractors don’t start saying AA is past his prime. Fedor makes you past your prime, that’s the point.
Let’s face it, after AA, only Barnett (and that’s a guess because I’m not sure where he’s really at as far as top level competition goes) and, dare I say it, Lesnar (if he proves he can handle sub defense by beating Mir) are his major competition left in the game. If Mir beats Lesnar than he is there, but I think Fedor would knock his head clean off, no offense to Mir, who I generally root for. After these two he has cleaned out the HW division and could retire the greatest of all time should he chose to do so.
Roach is smart for training AA, it will promote his dying sport of boxing. This is a good promo for boxing and Roach knows it. AA’s manager’s analogy of Buster Douglas is a poor analogy, there were many factors that affected Tyson that night against Douglas, boxing history proved that. Fedor is a phenom of his own not a good comparison. I dont give much credit to promo videos they are just for hype, M1 may need to consider a different approach to promotion given they only have a couple of shots at this.. I take Fedor by TKO or submission..
Fedor cuts easily, if Arlovski can hit above or below the eye, boxings pinpoint precision training, he’ll put the Last Emporor in a purely defensive frame of mind and make him become more susceptible to straight blasts. Don’t underestimate Arlovski, Fedor is the man but he is not unbeatable but as close you can get to it. This is going to be a war and hopefully lives up to the hype.
The longer this fight stays on the feet the more the advantage pendulum swings in Arlovski’s favor!
When Roach talks, he sounds half retarded.
Andrei has said about Fedor “he is only a man, and can be beaten like anyone else”, so the belief is there.
I would rather see him knock Fedor down, he recovers then Andrei pounds on him for awhile then armbars him for good measure just to show that he can do both because anyone can get knocked out and people will say he just got lucky wait til the rematch.
You have to respect Fedor completely, but I want this to be a dominant win, not quick but a long and painful realization.