NameNotRequired: That comment shows just how ignorant you are.

I’m not bashing you because you want GSP to win. What valid evidence out there points to a “blowout” win for GSP?

It’s gonna be a great fight.

This site will crash before the event even starts on that day. I hope your ready for all of the views you will get on the site Mania. Good luck!

Yep, good luck MANIA! And pun, all of us should meet on here before the fight and share a beer, before the UFC starts, a little beer and some conversation to get hyped up (which is hard to believe we could get any more hyped huh) But the BJ Tank should make a pit stop before the fights start and have a quick beer, maybe a half hour beofre the fights start, let me know bro, Big Anomaly, Westside, John, and all the others are welcome RSVP bros and we’ll make it happen! BJ BJ BJ BJ BJ!!!!!

Just a feeling i have. This is gonna be a Fedor-Nog I performance (where people were shocked at how not competitive it was). Adam go ahead and put my name on that list.

pUniSHment - that’s ok. Technique wise BJ hasnt changed because he;s always been awesome. But in the first fight the big difference with round 1 is distance and jabs. GSP has a much better jab and cleaner and more diverse striking(no retarded spinning kicks). His top game was good enough to control him before so no doubt about it now except he’s much better at posturing up while GNPing. His balance and hip awareness is also much improved. I could go on and people will say am talking out of my ass. You’ll just have to see it when it happens.

Could have sworn that being in shape makes you more flexible, quicker, smarte mentally, stronger, more power, crisper etc etc all that adds up to even better tech . . .

Am not drinking that “BJ’s in shape” kool aid just yet. One great camp isn’t gonna raise his cardio to where it should be. Remember how gassed he was after Joe daddy. I am basing my prediction on things that GSP has shown.

ok ok, need to see it to believe it huh, hope he shows you and you convert to BJ Pennism with the rest of us.

I have to agree with NNR on this. I don’t see it being a blowout win for GSP, but I do think that he will win, and I think it will be an easier fight than he had with Fitch. IMO, GSP is better in all aspects of the game outside of BJJ. I also think that B.J. will NEVER have the cardio that GSP has, so even if he is in shape it will not matter. On top of that, B.J. has only showed improved conditioning fighting at 155, he has never shown it at 170. I wouldn’t be shocked if B.J. won, but I would be a bit surprised. I hope GSP wins, and eventually fights Anderson, although I am not liking GSP’s chances in that one.

AdamG, you got a list now too! And your putting quotes! You stole my idea and made it better. Add this to my quotes. BJ will not win a single round! GSP will not be impress with his performance.

Also, seems like GSP didn’t quite think BJ deserved a shot so it’s interesting to hear him say he’s wanted this fight. Every time it was mentioned before the fight was set, he always responded with “If that’s who the UFC thinks deserves a shot”

Also Lyoto will frustrate and beat Thiago

NameNotRequired: I respect your opinion. However, I disagree with you saying GSP has the better jab and cleaner striking. I believe Penn wins in the striking department. The only thing he seldomly uses is legkicks. Him not using legkicks against GSP is smart IMO because a legkick would make Penn vulnerable to a takedown. In the first fight GSP did absolutely nothing with his takedowns. You think GSP is gonna win, and I think BJ’s gonna win. That’s what makes this event and mmamania so great. We can share our ideas and feelings of what we think. I just hope the fight is awesome.

AdamG: We should all have a beer together via the internet lol. There’s so much hype here in Hawaii already. Every radio station is having a contest and giving away trips to Vegas. I’d love to watch Penn fight in person again. I went to the Gomi fight, but wasn’t able to go to the Rodrigo one.

This is why i like this site. As far as GSP’s striking i was saying it’s better compared to before. BJ no doubt has the better boxing, i would be blind not to admit that. But GSP has developed an excellent jab. As far as the takedowns, like i mentioned earlier GSP has gotten a lot better at being heavy on top while postering up to GNP. He doesn’t GNP while laying in the guard anymore. I see GSP being better everywhere it goes or at least nullifying any offense from BJ.

We’re gonna argue back and forth about our opinions.lol

The thing is, Penn is gonna give GSP hell to take him down, and probably GSP will get him down every other try give or take, but the REAL question in my mind is can GSP do anything once there? I don’t think so, nobody has EVER held Penn on his back for more than a minute or so, not even GSP in the first fight. Penn will keep getting up, and keep forcing GSP to box with him, where I believe the majority of Penn’s successful offense will take place.
Bottom line:
Ground: Nuetralized
Stand up: Penn

The Anomaly: Who you taking in the Machida vs Silva fight?

Honestly, at first it was soooo freakin hard for me. But the more and more I think about it I think Machida.
Reason is that Silva is not a whole lot more of what Machida hasn’t already dominated, but the real thing for me is Silva already showed he can mess up big, when(I forget who it was) landed a big blow, I think a kick maybe?

Anyway even though he recovered,(and he might be able to avoid being finished with Machida) he showed inconsistancy, albeit once, thats all that I need to believe Machida will win a UD. Consistancy wins the game my friend, and Machida is unrivaled in that department.

Yeah I think your thinking of the fight he had at UFC 84 when he almost did lose. I also think that Machida is just too tought for some fighters to deal with.

Yeah I think you’re right, the thing is you NEVER see Machida in ANY kind of trouble, the biggest thing was Tito’s triangle, and I think Penn hit him with the best puch Machida’s ever taken (overhand right after Machida spinning back kick). I think we will see much more of that scene where Silva get’s caught and takes his first loss.

However I still think Silva has the best chance out of anybody to beat Machida so far, and definelty think it will be competitive, not writing Silva off by any means.

If the Tito triangle is the most trouble Machida has ever been in then Machida has never been in trouble.

I bet you guys anything Silva is looking to take him down and go for the sub. Though Machida will probly win, i wanna see the upset here.

ADam G: BJ!@ BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ! nuff said!

BJ BJ BJ.

Sticking to what I’ve said from the beginning, BJ 4th Round Rear Naked Choke!

GSP has NEVER had a real GNP stoppage outside of Sherk and Serra! GSP uses his wrestling to pepper with strikes to set up a submission, like in Hughes 3, Kos, Karo, Trigg, and others.

GSP can only finish with strikes if he rocks/drops BJ on the feet, or he will submit him with an armlock of some sort.

Regardless, this should be a GREAT Fight!!

Cogito: I agree, that’s exactly my point!! Machida is never in real trouble, and NameNotRequired, I imagin you are right, Silva I agree will def look to fight Machida on the ground, that is best case scenario for him I think, Silva showed he is not 100% consistant on the feet, and Machida showed that he is, so id try to work his GnP there, but again, Machida is no slouch, gonna be tough and Silva is rightfully a bit of an underdog in my mind, but having siad that, teh biggest threat to machida thus far.

Plus Penn almost had him in an omoplata before time ran out.

Well he sure gave him hell in there, but to be honest I think GSP did end up pulling out of it. But honestly Penn was way more focused on standing up, not offense from his back, so I think he just got to tired for that so resorted to tryin offense off his back. Penn ain’t stupid. If your goal is to mount your offense from your back with a guy of GSP’s caliber, your out of your mind.

In the first and I believe in this upcoming fight, when Penn looks not very offensive from bottom, I think it will be more because he is waiting for a chance to get up, not becuase he cant mount any offense at all there.

Why chance time and enery to try and gogoplata someone like GSP when you know you’re capable of standing up in like 3 more seconds anyway ya know?

I agree. GSP won that fight, although it was because of his takedowns which he did nothing with. Also it was Penn’s fault that he didn’t take training as seriously as he should have. But if an out of shape Penn took GSP to a split decision then GSP should know what a 150% in shape and focused Penn will bring that night.

Yeah and even so, damage-wise Penn definenlty won, had they fought in Pride, Penn would have won that first fight for sure.

Who got:
their *ss kicked: GSP
a win: GSP

Anomaly, that first fight doesn’t matter. This fight will be completely different. GSP developed olympic level wrestling between then and now. He didn’t just improve. He holds down LHW’s and HW’s at Jackson’s. He can and will hold down BJ. BJ has always been great and has showed improvement, but he hasn’t made a rediculous jump in any category like Georges. George can put BJ down and keep him there whenever he wants. I will even say that it won’t be that hard.

Dude GSP has ALWAYS had bomb wrestling. At the same time Penn was bouncing up in two seconds and GSP could not hold him down, GSP was out wrestling Sherk and trigg no prob, that same GSP couldn’t hold Penn down for more than 30 sec(I just watched the fight again, no longer than 30 seconds). So ok ok GSP has improved, if he held Penn down for 30 sec last time, ill even give you DOUBLE this time.
ALl I can say is, work on your boxing GSP.

–You say he holds down LHW and HW? I have never heard that, the only thing I heard was that he can take Rashad down, and Rashad can’t take him down. Not that he holds him down. Or not that he can do anything with that take down anyway. If Randy can’t hold Penn down(Randy’s own words) than niether can GSP.

–Penn will be able to get up, and might I even add, it will be easy.

Oh and P.S. Punishment, not a olmaplata, but Penn had a gogo plata attemt on GSP at teh end. Remember, gogo is a choke, (pulling down on the head), the ulma is an arm lock. Although I guess in essense, a gogoplata IS simply the begining stages of an ulma set up so hey.

Haha Punishment I was gonna do the same thing, bring up Fedor, or Anderson for that matter, the spider doenst look all ripped up, you would never know he is a fighter. Same with shogun, he has never looked all cut up.

That would be crazy if he came out and was ultra aggresive on Silva and totally threw him though a loop!

Some would even say he is “illusive”

ELUSIVE!

GORD!!! Love it! almost here brother (even though we are on the opposite sides of the fence on this one and with these two fighter, i still consider you my MMA brother, a very knowledgable guy without a doubt! and the biggest GSP fan ive met) Drop something on me Gord, and make it better than “Penn looked fat in his interview = )” BJ BJ BJ!!! Gord Gord Gord!!!

Gord is definitely the biggest GSP hugger out there. Are all GSP fans as bitter as he is? I don’t see why they would be. Their favorite fighter is damn good. They just seem to be just as uptight as GSP is. I bet GSP wears tighty whiteys. Also, he always seems to be trying to convince himself of what he’s sayuing when he references himself. BJ!BJ!BJ!BJ!

Its not about being “bitter” to me! Its about “men” saying another man (BJ) is “GOD” in their eyes! Its about “men” swinging from another mans (BJ) n*ts so hard,that they dont care to admit it!

That post seems bitter.

LoL! Hella funny “ok, your added” = )

All you guys ive been arguing with for years are great! Funny-motor-boatin-sons-of-b*tches!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!

lol. BJ is a crazy dude.

The craziest! and i LOVE it!!! Wouldnt trade his personality for any other in MMA, says what he thinks, means what he says, and doesnt check with one of his agents before he says it! BJ BJ BJ!!!

it was supposed to say “ever again” like in the rubber, what if hes just a contender from now on, the youngest gatekeeper in the UFC is all he’ll ever be (that was the right use of “ever” right there!)

And you arent going on record and saying he will beat Ando, but by saying that, you are saying he will beat BJ, better find some wood and knock on it brother = )All good, like your opinions, at least they are valid and thoughful.

so what is BJ going to do ,oh yeah go back down to 155 like he did last time he lost.

thanks,do not get me wrong ,I still believe that this is going to be one of the greatest fights any of us will ever watch,I just think GSP has improved so much threw out his career.Yes,Penn has too,but his cardio has never been tested in 155,and we do not know if it really has improved when he puts the weight back on for this fight.I hope his cardio is greatly improved,if so this is going to be a war

He didnt “go back down” like that bro, as if he wanted to, any fighter loses two in a row and a drop in weight is something to think about, plus Jens was waiting for him,(what would you do, not go redeem a loss just cause you have to go down to the weight that you should be fighting at in the first place? plus the TV show, dude made bank and will still be in the 170 class and already getting a title shot LMAO! he lost 2 in a row at WLWT and still gets a title shot in his next WLWT fight LoL That should say something, maybe that Dan is BJ b*tch LoL) but god forbid he goes and fights at his natural weight, GSP fights at 170 and walks at 190, talk about dropping a weight class! LMAO!

True, i hope he comes in at 164 on fight day, while GSP weighs 177ish after the weigh ins, i hope all is well for both of them so nothing delays this fight or makes it blowout, BJ in shape, and GSP seeing is shrink = )

That is why ,no offense,he should not have got this fight.They did not just throw Anderson Silva in title match at 205,and all we here is Dana praising him up and down,he deserves the praise.If he is the best P4P fighter in the world,why make him earn his way up the 205 ladder,but you throw BJ immediatly in a title match with GSP.Now BJ is the biggest threat to GSP at 170,but where is the equal treatment

And in response to the weight question,we all know that almost every fighter,drops a ton of weight,to fight at a lower weight class.What does any of the LHW fighters walk around at like 220,normal MW walks around at 205 .You can not hate on GSP for that.

Agreed, i think it might be because the WlWT div is less stacked especially with sanchez leacing it compare to the LHWT div. I also think its cause BJ never stops begging and talking in the media and the first contravertial fight (which i think GSP won 12 minutes of) all that leads to BJ being where he is. Ando should step on Danas neck if he wants the shot like BJ does, he doesnt let Dana tell him no or he’ll just wlk like he did the first time when they tried to make him fight Charutto after the first Hughes fight. Plus Ando doesnt want the 205 belt, he thinks its Lyottos doesnt he?

GSP isnt gonna do ANY GnP’ing I can tell you that. Unless he can do something in the 2 seconds it takes Penn to stand back up.

I’m wondering waht GSP’s game plan for the start of the fight is. He ain’t gonna take Penn down as easily as he took Serra down in the second fight.

I think he’ll come out with some striking for a bit, adn then throw a take down a little randomly, I think he will want the most of the element of surpise as possible so I don’t think he’ll come straight out with the TK, like he often does.
So in essence, I think his gameplan will be very much like in the first fight. Just with a slightly better GSP.

He will wait for BJ to comit to a combo and then make his move for the takedown, usually BJ throws the first combo in the first 5 seconds sooo . . . If i was Penn id let him take me down while im fresh and not waste any energy like GSP wants him to (even if he doesnt get the TD he will be happy enough with tireing BJ a little with every attempt) Then id sweep after rubber gaurd, mmount, grapevines, force GSP to give up his back, figure 4 him, GnP lik the Gomi fight, and a sub as soon as it presents it self, this isnt a guy BJ should play around with like usual, getin, get out and make me the happiest MMA fan on the planet. BOOM!!!! Thats what id expect in the first, if it gets to the bell to end the round before BJ can secure the RNC . . . No good guys! (and thats an understatement!!!)

Well Adamg id have to say that seems a little optimistic, even for you!!!! But oh how id love to see it. And then never see Gord again.

Adam…You been watching Entourage?

Heard of it but never seen it, its an HBO show right, dont get HBO, why do you ask bro?? Reply in the new “BJ Penn show” thread on the main page of this site and we’ll talk. Im very curious as to why you asked, something a said???

At least we can agree on Rashad. (nice jab to my neck Taped, nice! LoL!)

NICE!!!! -

Adam G = Dr Phil

LMAO!