“Is he tough enough to do it? Absolutely. Is he talented enough to go up there and do it? Absolutely. Does that mean he should do it? Absolutely not. He doesn’t have the frame to carry that kind of weight and it just makes no sense.”

– UFC President Dana White elaborates via ESPN.com on the topic of former welterweight and current lightweight champion BJ Penn moving up to one day fight middleweight kingpin Anderson Silva. White has already revealed that he would allow reigning 170-pound titlist Georges St. Pierre to make the jump to create a superfight if he can topple the “Prodigy” for the second time on January 31. Penn — for now — does not appear to have that option. The fight between St. Pierre and Penn is the first time ever in the history of the promotion the champions from two different divisions will collide. St. Pierre’s welterweight strap will be on the line.

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Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:12:31

i agree with dana 100%.

in fact~ i dont even think gsp should go up to mw after he beats bj~

gsp gsp gsp!!!

Comment by Adam
2008-12-24 09:23:17

I agree stinky fingers. I like GSP to much and think that he would get a beatdown from Silva. I want to see Anderson fight the best at LHW period.

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:28:36

exactly~

i feel he should finish his career at 205~ fighting top guys.

i dont think there is any competitive matches at mw for him.

take that lhw strap and retire a legend!!

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Comment by Cogito Ergo Sum
2008-12-24 09:37:34

If there is someone who can beat Silva it’ll be GSP. There is no doubt in my mind about this. Keep in mind I’m not saying that GSP will beat Silva but that he has all the tools to get the job done. He has precise striking, good range and rhythm, and great wrestling. I think if GSP proves he is better than Penn then he should get his chance to move up and face a couple MW’s like Silva had done. Let GSP face off against Hammil or someone. We could potentially see more interesting GSP fights at MW against Hendo, Bisping, or Marquardt (not holding my breath on any of these). Granted I do think GSP should face Thiago Alves before doing that tho.

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:41:00

if gsp want to fight andy? he needs to fight someone like

hendo, bisping or marquardt.

agreed! i dont feel he should go straight to a title fight.

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:51:47

im off to the casino~

i wont be back here till after the weekend!!

kevin i will be here to hear what u got to say about the fight.

and to all my mma nerdz~

i hope u all have a great holiday~ the stink~man wishes

u all a merry x-mas and a happy new year!

even u mmamania and all the staff. u guys especially!

dont think the stink was going to forget u guys!

say word to big~bird~ im out!!

 
Comment by R-Dizzle
2008-12-24 10:01:50

I think GSP has done enough in the WW division to warrant an immediate title shot in the MW division. Especially considering the lack of standout contenders in the MW division. A GSP/A.Silva fight would be another blockbuster p4p fight for the UFC, and if everything is set up for the fight to happen, I don’t see how the UFC could deny fans this fight.

Enjoy your holiday! And that goes to all maniacs and MMA fans alike!

 
Comment by john
2008-12-24 10:08:31

I*m with u Stink! Anderson is HUGE…and should not be wasting his time fighting little guys like bJ or GSP. Silva should waste his time fighting anyone under 205 lbs. But if I am going to keep it real, bJ probably would have a better chance at beating Silva then GSP would cause BJ is just tougher overall, and can take shots better then GSP.

AS for dana, Who the F is he to tell BJ what he can or cant accomplish. If BJ has both titles gets bored and wants to fight Silva….I say let em BANG!

 
Comment by kevin
2008-12-24 10:23:54

alright stink. I’ll be back sunday or monday, I’m flying to san diego tomorrow morning, for the weekend!

 
Comment by R-Dizzle
2008-12-24 10:58:38

lol, GSP gets knocked out by Serra and all of a sudden the guy’s not tough. I can’t believe people would honestly give BJ a better chance against Silva. Seriously…

Last time I remember, GSP took BJ’s best shots in the last fight and still ended up winning. But, I guess fighting with a busted up face for the majority of the fight and still winning…… isn’t considered tough.

BJ can take shots, but I don’t think neither guy has faced shots like Anderson can bring. As for Anderson being HUGE, he’s really not.. Just because a guy can make a higher weight, it doesn’t mean he’s way too big for his own division. Would you say Kenny Florian is a HUGE lightweight? Anderson’s big, but he’s relatively the same size as most middleweights. It’s not a Thiago Alves situation, where the guy looks like he’s struggling to make weight.

As for who Dana is, he would be the president of the UFC. You might have heard of him. You should check out his blogs once in a while, they’re actually pretty entertaining. But yea, if anyone was able to tell a fighter in the UFC what he can and cannot do, it would be that guy.

 
Comment by Cogito Ergo Sum
2008-12-24 11:34:00

Dizzle I think by big they mean that he has a larger body frame. He’s not neccessarily having trouble making weight because of this but compare him to anyone else in that weight class (Okami excluded) and he’s a taller fairly larger guy. The problem this makes is that Penn’s and maybe GSP’s reach will be much shorter than Silva’s. He is a larger MW and could easily jump up to LHW but he would never be able to cut down to MW due to his body size.

 
Comment by Anger Jack
2008-12-24 11:47:15

The only competitive MW fight left for A.Silva is vs. Maia

I don’t get why they had to throw him another B grade fighter – Thales Leites (he’s record is pretty good – but he really hasn’t fought top competition – looking at stats – he only got decision W against Marquardt because of point reductions) – so IMO Maia would have much better chance submitting spider than Leites does

 
Comment by john
2008-12-24 14:11:21

Leites is no B level fighter. He is one of the best middleweights in the world. He will make for a much better opponent then Okami!

Maia is one of my favorites but RIGHT now he is not ready for the spider. I dont think Maia could beat THales right now either. Give him another year of striking with wanderlei and he will be ready for anyone!

 
Comment by NameNotRequired
2008-12-24 14:17:25

Leites has some serious BJJ credentials too though. And we know he can take serious punishment which we haven’t had the chance to see from Maia. I think besides hendo, he has the best style so far to take on silva. (Might try to exploit the betting lines when they come out.)

 
Comment by WB
2008-12-24 14:19:05

john, totally agree with you. Give Maia another year where he can hone his striking with Wandi and he will be a force to reckon with. His jitz is sick and Lutter gave Anderson some problems in their match.

 
 
Comment by Robert
2008-12-24 16:36:07

Agreed… why are they talking about this now, GSP IMO has the edge in this fight and yet they’re speaking as if Penn has already won, Penn is 2-2 at 170 not 4-0. That being said Penn is one of my favorite fighters which is why I want him to lose and go back and fight Kenny and Sanchez, Penn is a 155er not 170.

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Comment by Shadyone33
2008-12-24 10:00:36

Bang on. I don’t think that GSP should be moving up, I think Anderson should be moving up. I think that he would have a better chance at success moving up to fight numerous LHW’s than GSP would have moving up to face him.

Comment by R-Dizzle
2008-12-24 11:00:36

That’s probably true. But GSP wouldn’t be moving up to fight full-time in the MW division. The idea would be to put on a super-fight between two of the sport’s p4p best.

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 09:14:13

BJ fought Lyoto to a decision at light heavyweight. I’d like to see him try for it.

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:15:44

bj will have to get through gsp first~ which he wont.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 09:16:33

Matt Serra wasn’t supposed to either. Anything can happen in MMA and BJ is certainly capable.

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Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:19:36

bahhh~ im sick of the whole ‘matt serra beat him’ talk..

i wont even get into that~

this is going to be one hell of a fight..

gsp gsp gsp!!!

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 09:20:44

hahahaha I am not using that as an arguement to discredit GSP. I am just stating that anything can happen in MMA and that is certainly proof.

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:26:10

well of course anything can happen~ thats the sport!

i know the business~

what is your reason for taking bj??

im thinking gsp will grind it out until the later rounds

and tko bj.. gsp is in amazing shape and i dont see bj

finishing him.. the first round might look simular too their

first fight~ but i feel gsp will prosper and take the W

with a finish[tko]

i love bj~ but this will be his reminder too stay at lw

and rain supreme for the rest of his career..

he cant hang with the big boys at ww..

just like gsp cant hang at mw.

and just like andy silva can hang at 20′ooh wait?…nevermind.

 
Comment by McArthur
2008-12-24 09:27:17

andy silva…lol

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 09:43:11

hahahahaha yeah. I feel that if it goes into the later rounds, BJ will certainly have some trouble. He hasn’t tested his improved cardio at 170 and against a guy like GSP, it would be difficult to do well with it. However, I think that BJ has great BJJ. Should GSP get it to the ground with his outstanding takedowns (which could prove to even be difficult with BJ’s great takedown defense) GSP might have trouble with submission attempts. Then again, GSP just got his blackbelt in BJJ so maybe not as much as you would think. If the fight stays standing, BJ is a great striker and it would be difficult for GSP to outdo BJ on the feet. I honestly feel that GSP will have a good ground advantage but if BJ blocks the takedowns, I think that GSP will get nervous at the situation and make a mistake. With BJ’s striking ability, this could prove to be extremely problematic for GSP. If GSP can take BJ down, I think that GSP will shoot for the fight going into the later rounds. There are many different scenarios that could occur in this fight. It is just a matter of what the fighters can and cannot do against eachother.

 
Comment by Anger Jack
2008-12-24 11:50:01

GSP via Knockout!

BJ will be laughing stock after this one when everyone sees him as a target practice punching bag for GSP

 
Comment by john
2008-12-24 14:15:17

when the hell has bJ ever been KO’ed? NEVER!
When has Bj ever been Rocked? NEVER!

They are both 2 of the most skilled guys on the planet. I just think BJ is just a tougher person overall and in a close fight like this it should be the difference. I dont want to sound like I am hating on GSP because he really is one of my favorite fighters. Someone has to win and someone has to lose, and I think BJ is going to be the winner. In my eyes, if healthy, the BJ of TODAY will beat any man at 170 lbs or less!

I am so sick of all the outdated comments about BJ’s cardio! Thats old news, it as been corrected. NOt saying you cant pick GSP, but come up with a better and RECENT argument. The cardio stuff is old and it will not be a factor.

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 16:54:28

We haven’t seen the cardio not be an issue at welterweight. We will just have to wait and see if he still has the problems.

 
Comment by GregC
2008-12-25 04:28:57

We haven’t even seen that his cardio isn’t an issue at 155. He did go 3 rounds against Sherk, but he only fought a kickboxing match. Until I see him fight hard into the later rounds I’m not going to be convinced that his cardio is no longer an issue.

 
 
Comment by The Anomaly
2008-12-24 14:41:00

Um stink, that is incorrect sir.

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Comment by The Anomaly
2008-12-24 14:44:28

Look at how the BJJ guys have done against Anderson and then look at how the wrestlers did agasint him.
The BJJ guys did MUCH better. This combined with the fact that BJ can take a better punch than GSP is why i’d rather see BJ/Anderson than GSP/Anderson.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-12-24 16:11:01

Actually, Hendo did the best. He is the only one to win a round.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2008-12-24 16:13:14

Dude I would ahve to disagree. Lutter had him mounted for cryin out loud, and Ryo submitted him in pride. Hendo did hold him down. But wasnt even close to putting him in real danger. The Lutter on the other hand, did.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-12-24 16:21:02

I was not talking about his Pride days, just the UFC. Lutter did mount him, but he lost the mount just as quick has he got it, and then was put away by Anderson’s triangle/elbows to the head combo. The reason I think a wrestler has a better chance is because Anderson’s BJJ is also very good, where as his wrestling is not on the same level.

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2008-12-24 16:40:37

Go watch his fight against Daiju Takase in Pride and tell me he doesn’t have trouble against guys with good BJJ. Especially smaller fighters with good BJJ.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-12-25 01:18:37

He DID have trouble with skilled BJJ guys. Pride was a long time ago for Anderson. He is a much better fighter now. Does anyone think that the Anderson of today wouldn’t completely demolish Chonin?

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2008-12-25 22:28:30

Yeah but BJJ is the best way to counter BJJ, not wrestling, is my point. Having mount for any amount of time is still better than holding his mouth shut from guard, you would not agree?

 
 
 
 
Comment by introvert
2008-12-24 09:22:42

Seems kinda strange that GSP would be allowed to fight Silva (using the word “allowed” very loosely), but BJ wouldn’t. If BJ somehow gets passed Georges, then who really cares what kind of “frame” either of them has? If Georges is already slated to fight Anderson (if he wins), and BJ pulls out the victory against Georges, then Georges “frame” obviously didn’t make any difference.

I think GSP will beat BJ…but if it goes BJ’s way, then I would actually like to see him try to take the MW belt too.

If Dana is using “frame” as a reason, it almost seems like he’s counting BJ out already. I mean…Georges has a bigger “frame” than BJ, so does that mean it’s impossible?…hell no.

The UFC would have more to lose if GSP got beaten down by Silva, than they would if a guy holding the LW and WW title loses to him…IMO.

Let it happen Dana.

With that said…..WAR GSP!!!!!!!

Comment by Nate
2008-12-24 09:33:21

I agree 100%.

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-24 09:38:01

great post introvert~

i agree with what u said. if dana will let one fight? why not either?

personally~ i feel bj should have had to fight a top ww first

to be the #1 contender..

but since bj has been the ww champ before and has fought gsp

in a split loss? it is all good to me[pure superfight]..

but all in all~

i think if bj or gsp want to fight andy? the need to fight a

top mw to get there..

just like andy doesnt go straight to a title fight at 205..

thats just how i feel..

with that said.. war gsp gsp gsp!!!

Comment by halljam2
2008-12-24 13:10:02

I think it was such a close fight last time Penn/GSP 2 has the makings of a HUGE PPV payday in Canada and the States. Dana White knows what the fans want to see. If Thiago Alves picked off BJ Penn the fight would have lost some of its luster IMO.

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Comment by Pat
2008-12-24 10:21:23

I think Dana’s reasoning is that BJ vs. Silva will look like a freak-show fight, and with Dana still having trouble sanctioning MMA in NY State, among others, he doesn’t want to give the athletic commissions any more incentive to keep MMA banned.

Comment by Shadyone33
2008-12-24 10:55:10

Very good point. This may be the real reason why he won’t let the fight happen.

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Comment by naturalshadow
2008-12-24 16:14:12

I agree. I think B.J. is a great fighter, but all I see him doing to Anderson is getting blood all over his fight shorts.

 
 
 
 
2008-12-24 09:31:16

Not too often that I agree with Dana!

 
Comment by bigjohn
2008-12-24 09:36:57

to say BJ cant hang with the WWs is retarded

he tooled matt hughes in bith fights and should of finished the second fight when he had him on the ground

hughes is a beast and is the greatest WW of all time

BJ also went the distance with GSP and completely schooled him in the stand up

the only reason he didnt win those 2 fights was cardio and the injury he picked up against hughes

the new in shape BJ penn will be a nightmare for anyone at 170

if he were to completely school GSP and take the belt, then i cant really see many other legit challengers for andersson

theres GSP thiago alves who is huge at 170 fitch, and maybe zaa rematch for hendo

cant see why dana is making this comment now, this is the kind of thing that will piss BJ off, at least wait until he has beaten GSP and thiago before poking the bear with a stick

Comment by naturalshadow
2008-12-24 16:16:30

The new in shape version of B.J. Penn only weighs 155. We still have yet to see if he can come in shape at 170. I don’t think he could ever make 185 without being a fat butterball.

 
 
Comment by Adam
2008-12-24 09:51:51

As far as I know the superfight (whether it involved GSP or BJ) would be at a catch weight anyways. There wouldn’t even be a title involved.

 
Comment by Mike Z.
2008-12-24 09:59:08

He would only be carrying the extra weight for a few months. Also, who’s to say he would actually put on 30 extra pounds to get to 185. He may only go up to 175, which is what he was doing for years while fighting at 170. Is it really as big a risk as everyone thinks????????????

 
Comment by Mc
2008-12-24 10:17:21

Bj doesn’t even deserve a title shot at 170. If he does, then Anderson Silva should have an immediate title shot at 205.

Comment by BNF
2008-12-24 11:14:53

Yes BJ does… And the only other person at 170 who also does is getting his next. So what’s the problem. As far as Anderson, I think he has done more than enough to deserve a shot at the 205 strap whenever he wants.

Comment by James S
2008-12-24 11:57:30

I agree. he may have already been offered a shot and declined because of Lyoto. I am praying that machida loses, so the chances of seeing Anderson fight for the 205 strap increase.

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Comment by jp
2008-12-24 10:20:04

what weight would they fight at? i dont know how much lower andy can go…

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-12-24 16:58:37

BJ could make middleweight. He made Light heavyweight to fight Lyoto Machida.

 
 
Comment by Graham
2008-12-24 10:30:55

Champions fighting out of their weight divisions is retarded. As much as I’ll enjoy watching GSP put a beating on BJ Penn, it’s a waste of time. BJ is the champ of the hottest division in MMA and he’s wasting time trying to avenge a loss.

Surely there’s lots of money to be made with BJ Penn as LW champ against various and sundry?

 
Comment by Chadx23
2008-12-24 10:40:52

this discussion should be left alone until BJ can get past GSP…then we can talk about it

 
Comment by Kansas
2008-12-24 10:44:18

I have to agree with Dana, too. I don’t find a fight between Silva and Penn being that compelling. If he utterly schools GSP that’d be one thing, I might change my mind, but while I think BJ WILL beat GSP, there is no way he’ll beat him in the same freak manner that Serra beat GSP.

I would like to see how BJ matches up with Alves after this match, and I would still like to see GSP fight Silva.

 
Comment by shamo84
2008-12-24 10:48:06

anderson silva fought okami at 175, I say let them meet there eventually

 
Comment by Randy for Couture
2008-12-24 10:55:49

but if bj can make welter weight (moving up 1) cud anderson silva nt do the favour and move down to welter weight (moving down 1) either way it wud do more damage to andersaons body m than bjs and besides anderson wud cream bjs ass!
any1 hu tinks bj cud beat anderson???

Comment by Anger Jack
2008-12-24 12:00:33

I think BJ can beat anderson in his dreams – thats the only possible win for him I can think of

 
 
Comment by DF
2008-12-24 11:01:34

Who cares. Let’s worry about the GSP vs Penn fight first

 
Comment by stevo
2008-12-24 11:05:29

Dana doesnt want BJ moving up to MW because he knows the odds are that BJ will get his ass handed to him. He just doesnt want to say it.

Dana lambasted PRIDE for allowing Wandy to move up and fight Crocop in the 2006 OWGP. Wandy got KTFO and his star lost some of its luster that night. The same would happen to poor BJ.

 
Comment by FJM
2008-12-24 11:13:00

GSP is going to beat bj pretty convincingly anyway so no need to worry about bj fighting anderson silva , I would like to see it tho I think it would be interesting to see if bj could take anderson to the ground and submit him, but I see gsp winning a decision 4 rds to 1 or winning by tko

 
Comment by Mike T.
2008-12-24 11:24:53

I think the whole frame thing and freakshow that Dana is afraid of is a joke. How could he let Randy and Brock go at it? I mean there was like a 2 ton weight difference in that fight. I do agree that BJ shouldn’t hold all 3 belts. If he fights Anderson it should just be for the P4P bragging rights. If you look at anyone who fought Silva and maybe had a chance it would be a guy with jits. I think BJ would give Andy a harder time. BJ has never been rocked in a fight.

Comment by Anger Jack
2008-12-24 12:04:19

Dave Kaplin has never been rocked either (or so he thinks)

 
 
Comment by mmanutz
2008-12-24 11:44:42

If bj wins this fight when would we get to see GSP/Penn3? Around UFC 100? I think Georges will take this fight and I Hope so but if Penn wins will we get to see penn/gsp3? If thats the case go BJ!!

 
Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-12-24 12:20:52

Come on I can’t even believe this is even up for argument, of coarse BJ can’t fight Silva and I wouldn’t want to see it either. BJ is best at lightweight Anderson Silva can go up to Light Heavy. so what makes people think that BJ could do anything but get hurt in that fight. it would be like putting Bisping in the octagon with Arvlowski and actually asking who is going to win. Another thing for all u retards that say BJ is the best striker in the UFC please stop saying that. every one knows Anderson Silva is the hands down best striker in the UFC, but I might go as far as to say BJ is the best in the lightweight division.

 
Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-12-24 12:23:00

I want BJ to win this fight with Georges badly.

Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-25 02:10:29

Me too, Just a little bit though, not as “badly” as you though im sure, BJ BJ BJ!!!

 
 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2008-12-24 12:40:39

I don’t see a major problem if the fight was at MW. However, Dana needs to be focusing on creating more new “stars” and not just recycling BJ Penn.

 
Comment by phenomenal angel
2008-12-24 13:24:35

All the good fights aren’t for titles anyways

Wand vs ramp
Silva vs machida
Hendo vs ace
Nate vs gouveia
Mir vs nog (inter)
Diego vs daddy
Serra vs hughes
Lauzon vs franca

Id rather see any of those than
Any title fight coming up

Comment by mmanutz
2008-12-24 13:26:04

Even more then Penn/GSP2 ?

Comment by DF
2008-12-24 15:31:58

Clay vs the Nate Diaz is also intriguing.

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Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-24 22:32:10

If I had to pick between ALL those fights you mentioned together or just watching GSPENN2, I’d pick GSPENN2. If you think any one of those fights is better than GSPENN2, you’re obviously not aware how important this fight is or how big an impact its going to have on MMA in the future. This fight is one of those ones that will define the sport. Like BJ said in the interview which AdamG provided the link for below, its just like Ali/Frasier. Winner takes all. Not just the belt.

 
 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-24 14:06:01

Penn is an eccentric nut job and through out his career has been all over the place, talented guy no question, I hope gsp lays a beat down on him to end all this non sense. I think they should make a rule that a fighter can’t hold a belt in two divisions at the same time, it just clogs everything up. If penn wins he should vacate his light weight belt and defend his welter weight belt. Same with gsp but I think a title holder should fight the number one contender first to earn a title shot, if he wins vacate his belt and defend in his title in his new division. I think anderson silva should leave the middle weight division and fight in the light heavy weight division, too bad his buddy machida is there, otherwise I’m sure he would.

Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-24 14:11:44

How can you call it non sense??? You have nerve to act as if Penn cant even hold a candle to George! A beat down??? George didnt even make contact in the first fight, hows he gonna go from that to a “beat down” of a guy who never been “beat down”?? Not even by Machida at HVWT. And he pretty much already beat GSP’s *ss last time man, come on. And he did that while not even in shape, i dont see how being in better shape now will lead to a worse loss than before. Make some sense . . .BJ BJ BJ!!!

 
 
Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-24 14:07:50

BJ BJ BJ!!!

Comment by pUniSHment
2008-12-24 16:42:58

BJ!BJ!BJ!

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-24 22:25:47

BJ!BJ!BJ!BJ! sorry I’m late guys!

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Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-25 02:07:57

BJ BJ BJ!!!!!

 
Comment by jonsey
2008-12-26 00:56:31

PRODIGYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-24 14:17:45

I agree with stevo its just his way of saying he thinks penn is in over his head and doesn’t really want to say it. I think he thinks he won’t get past gsp anyways so it ridiculous. White has stated on numerous occasions he feels anderson silva is number one and gsp is number 2, who do you think he thinks will win this fight? I’m sure white isn’t thrilled about penn fighting in two division and 3 is absurb, penn shouldn’t even think about silva, he most likely will lose to gsp anyways and should stay in his own division an make his mark on the sport.

 
Comment by Ben
2008-12-24 14:35:08

BJ! BJ! BJ!

 
Comment by DownUnder
2008-12-24 15:49:14

I am actually really bored with this topic.

Even though BJ could challenge him, the only change BJ would fight Anderson Silva would be in Japan. They love their freak show match ups where there is significant size difference or ‘catch weight’ show downs.

From Australia, it is really interesting to see the US and Japanese business styles evolve and manage combative sports.

 
Comment by SilasM
2008-12-24 15:55:11

Boys, you can debate this all you want. Dana is a wh*re and will do anything for money; we all know that! That’s the only reason Brock got a shot at Randy. So forget everything that Mr. White says about learning what not to do from boxing; he is the Don King of MMA and will do what he wants if money is involved. If BJ wins and screams loud enough for a shot a Silva; he’ll get it because the payday would be sick! I say this as a guy who thought Dana was doing a great job, but it’s now obvious that he is about the money (Fitch video crap) and nothing else.

 
Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-24 16:06:04

GREAT INTERVIEW WITH BJ PENN!!! ON SAME TOPICS AS THIS THREAD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDbOF2_6lKE

“This is that moment” -BJ Penn.

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-24 22:12:58

Awesome clip…Props to AdamG as usual! BJ!BJ!BJ!BJ!

Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-25 02:07:21

BJPENN.COM bro, they have tons of vids added everyday and 90% of them are MMA related and roughly 60% of that is BJ Penn related. BJ BJ BJ!!!

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2008-12-24 18:27:15

I’m here near Jackson’s in Albuquerque and the LHW’s say that GSP outwrestles them and I’ve even heard he gives the HW’s fits. I think he can hold the Spider down. I think he could take all that talent and hold it on the ground give him nuggies until a stoppage. I’m curious how bulking would affect GSP though. He’d be a stacked dude and I’m not sure it would slow him down with his frame.

 
Comment by phenomenal angel
2008-12-24 20:59:51

I only see gsp as a problem for bj
Besides that
I think bj can defeat the rest of ww division
Maybe lose standup to thiago but bj would tap him
Fitch maybe if he stalls but diego almost caught him I’m guessing bj can for sure

Now bj vs diego in lw would be insane
I think diego can win if he doenst gas from cutting weight

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-24 22:17:27

I think Thiago poses more problems for BJ than GSP does. Thiago is a viscous striker, with excellent takedown defense, who would prefer to keep the fight standing. If it went to the ground, BJ has a huge advantage, but getting Thiago there will not be easy. GSP is not as good a striker as Thiago, and would prefer to go for TD’s, so I expect a majority of GSPENN2 to be either on the ground, or up against the fence with BJ stuffing alot of GSP’s TD’s. I think Diego loses to BJ no matter what. BJ’s striking is better, and Diego does not have good enough takedowns to get BJ on the mat, and if BJ decides to take Diego down, BJ wins.

 
 
Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-24 22:25:16

I’m a little tired of people saying that Anderson doesn’t have any more challenges at MW. I wouold love to see him fight at LHW, but he hasn’t cleaned out the MW division yet. He didn’t exactly dominate Cogte before Cote got hurt, and although it hasn’t been exploited yet, Anderson’s weakness is his jiujitsu and his TD defense. If Lutter had been in shape, he wouldve beaten Anderson. I think that Damian Maia, or Rousimar Palhares would be able to beat Anderson, especially Maia.

I also think that Hendo COULD definitely beat him, but needs to use more single or double leg takedown’s instead of the greco body lock. I know Greco is Hendo’s bread and butter, but I think a single or double would be more effective, as long as he didn’t catch a knee. To alleviate this issue, he could get a body lock, and then drop down for a single and get him down. I’m far from a pro, but I just think having watched all of Andersons fights, that this method would be more effective.

 
Comment by shawn
2008-12-24 23:49:07

BJ is a better boxer than GSP and BJ will batter him in the standup like he did before. On the ground BJ is a world champion and is better at BJJ than GSP. GSP is the better wrestler but BJ has great TD defense. Eventually GSP will get it to the ground tho but is BJ’s guard really where u want to be? THe man can put his foot behind his head w/out using his hand. I see BJ utilizing the rubber guard all day to nullify ne damage then eventually using an omoplata to sweep GSP and get on top of GSP. eventually BJ will take his back…. from there RNC by BJ in round 3.

 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-25 00:45:29

Shawn I think the jurors are still out on the fact that penn is a better boxer than georges, just because he out boxed him for 2 or 3 minutes 2 and a half years ago in the first round hardly qualifies that as a fact. Gsp clearly out struck fitch in rounds 1 and 3 but it was even in round two, people annoy me how they base so much on so little information. We’ll find out jan 31 who the better boxer is, we all know gsp is much better at mauy thai, people act as if kicks mean nothing. If anyone light heavy weight on down can take penn down its gsp, and gsp is a black belt now who passed serra guard a highly decorated bjj specialist like nothing. Gsp’s top control is insane and I severely doubt penn gets gsp’s back his only chance for that is rocking gsp first. Gsp has more tools than penn and is a favorite by the experts for a good reason and with the general public. Penn is undoubtably a better bjj fighter but so was serra its not a bjj competition. Gsp has used a professional boxer recently and he said gsp could go toe to toe with anyone, don’t remember his name, but I’m not sold on the hype surrounding penns striking, can’t wait for jan 31.

Comment by SilasM
2008-12-25 17:58:14

I hear ya nathan; it seems that all the GSP haters want to pretend that this fight is happening 2 months after their last, not 2 and a half years. Penn has finally taken the sport seriously, but that doesn’t mean he’s improved. GSP on the other hand has improved leaps and bounds. I can’t stand BJ’s big mouth, but I can admit that he is a bad dude. Regardless, Rush simply has too many tools and is in his element at WW. As with my other posts, I see BJ coming on strong in rounds 1 and 2, tanking in round 3 and getting TKO’d in round 4!

Comment by Parks
2008-12-25 18:23:48

I think BJ’s boxing has improved greatly since he last fought GSP, and it will show.

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Comment by SilasM
2008-12-25 23:34:52

Maybe Parks, but I don’t see how we can tell. He had a big reach advantage against Sherk and hasn’t fought any other guys with great stand up in his last 3 or 4 fights; at least not with the reach and precision of a GSP. Again, you may be right, but I don’t know what it’s based on. Regardless, this fight is going to be great and will answer so many questions about both fighters!

 
Comment by Parks
2008-12-26 12:26:42

Maybe the fact that coaches like freddie Roach have said so. I have also been training in kickboxing for three years, and I think I know a thing or two about balance, hand speed, and overall accuracy.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ( (AdamG ) )
2008-12-25 02:05:24

BJ BJ BJ!!!!

Comment by SilasM
2008-12-25 17:59:26

Adam, you’re off your meds again. GSP GSP GSP!

 
 
Comment by Insain
2008-12-25 07:25:26

BJ PENN – GREATEST THREAT TO MMA ARTISTS TRYING TO CLAIM THE TOP SPOT

 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-25 19:40:39

BJ PENN – GREATEST LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND OF ALL TIME :)

 
Comment by Mike T.
2008-12-26 16:23:10

You guys cant say GSP’s striking was way better than Fitch’s because Fitch has no striking. He’s known for his GNP and griding out wins. GSP will lose because he wont be able to KO BJ and BJ is already expecting him to use kicks. GSP wont sub BJ. BJ all the way, and GSP will look like a newbie when he cant get anything going. I can’t wait until thi fight happens!

 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-27 14:24:56

You obviously haven’t watched many of fitches fights Mike T your ignorance is so obvious. Gsp looking like a newbie LOL whatever your smoking it has to be illegal :)

 
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