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Comment by KS
2008-12-15 07:22:05

I’m glad someone wants to fight Thiago, instead of pulling a Sanchez.

Comment by subwayy2sallyy
2008-12-15 07:25:06

but why does he deserve Thiago? He hasnt beat any top ten fighters, whereas Thiago hasn’t fought several and beat every one of them besides Fitch.

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 07:36:18

exactly subway2sal~

swick does not deserve this type of fight.

swicks next fight should be agianst anthony rumble. .

next fights~

anthony rumble vs. swick job

and.

alves vs. sanchez

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Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-12-15 07:43:06

Nice Picks last time

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 08:16:48

nevermind i forgot sanchez is going lw~

i think alves should have another fight before a title fight.

who would be a good opponant for alves?

aside from a rematch with jon fish~ i dont see any

good fights for alves to take while gsp fights bj.

swick~job vs. rumble. make it happen captian!

 
Comment by RedDog
2008-12-15 08:23:10

LOL, John Fish…I’m not impressed.
Seriously though, give Alves a shot for crying out loud…he’s been kicking butts and taking names for many years now. If he fights FISH again and loses, then Fitch will get the title shot and do we really want to see Fitch v GSP again? I really don’t.

 
Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 09:39:01

thanks mexi~

u are probably talking about the fight for the troops.

i did very bad on that night but i think i will bounce back~

thanks for the encouragement!

u missed some of my good betting nights while u were

getting ur booty filled with burrito and ur taco licked

in jail.. just kidding vato~ glad u made it out.

fight for the troops was the 2nd ufc event i lost money on this year.

with rampage-griffin i lost 52k.

i have profitted of all other..do u remember afflicton banned?

i killed it~ cashing in just shy of 6 figs[97k].

oh yeah u dont like to talk about my good nights.

say word.

 
Comment by Lights Out
2008-12-15 10:53:22

97k? haha whatever, stinky. say word~ lol

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-12-15 11:41:50

I dint know you had good nights man. Youre welcome for the encouragement.

 
Comment by kevin
2008-12-15 12:05:06

why do you guys question those of us that gamble? I’m at a higher level of gambling then john, john is higher player than VM and stinky bets more than all 3 of us! Why is it hard to believe that some of us make good money?
stinky, wanna bet on the wand/rampage fight?
GSP/bj?
give me odds? I’ll put 100 up!

 
Comment by john
2008-12-15 12:28:38

I never have once questioned another mans bets on this site. We work on an honor system around here…I like to think that at least all of the regulars are honest because shame on them if there not. Lying about yourself to a bunch of strangers on the internet is pretty pathetic, and I chose to believe that the regulars that I respect feel the same way as I do.

As for Mike Swick, Who the F does he think he is calling out my boy and the #1 contender Alves? Swick is like 2 big wins away from even being considered to fight Alves. Alves alreday said he is taking time off and will sit out until his title fight….and rightfully so! In the past year he has destroyed Lytle, Karo, Hughes, Koschek! He has earned a break and his title shot!

Who has Swick fought? Marcus, Burkman (Garbage), Goulet (a JOke)!

Swick deserves to fight a guy like Rumble. Nothing more, nothing less, Alves is certainly out of the question!

 
Comment by kevin
2008-12-15 12:38:46

I agree and disagree John. I agree, why lie?!!
I agree alves is a top WW and would kill swick!
I disagree on fighters sitting out and waiting for their title shot. It’s why I respect a guy like Kenny Florian so much and dislike a guy like Karo! If you’re the #1 guy, get in there and prove it! If you train hard and fight the way your supposed to, you’ll still be the #1 guy, if you don’t train and expect to win, you never should have been a contender to begin with! Shut up and fight, it’s your job!

 
Comment by john
2008-12-15 13:15:45

I dont like fighteres waiting for fights either, but I think Alves just needs a break so he might as well wait!

 
Comment by NameNotRequired
2008-12-15 14:19:03

Alves should wait. Beating Goulet means you are good enough to fight in the UFC not fight for #1 contendership. Even then, Alves would kill his lanky legs and KO him in the 3rd.

 
Comment by theCloser
2008-12-15 15:03:38

Swick beat Marcus Davis who most of you thought would kill Swick. Now he’s a forgotten contender after Swick dealt with him. And I don’t know why Swick had to wait so long for his shot at middleweight. Swick more than deserves a number 1 contenders match, and he will win

 
 
Comment by McArthur
2008-12-15 08:28:33

he beat Marcus Davis who is a UFC top ten but probably not an overall top ten

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Comment by Adam
2008-12-15 12:08:50

I’m a big Marcus Davis fan, but who has Davis beat? Liaudin? Taylor?

 
Comment by tyler
2008-12-15 14:03:09

All right who has anyone beat? People can play that fucking game forever”Who has the guy beat”!Which is a lame ass argument.At any rate Swick wouldn’t get by Anthony”Rumble”Johnson.So him calling out Alves is just trying to get people to think he’s on the same level which he obviously is not.

 
Comment by john
2008-12-15 14:05:26

I am a big Davis fan as well, but to be honest, his resume BLOWS as well. I cant label him a top 10 UFC welterweight until he beats someone.

Put it to you this way, Carlos Condit would destroy him!
If Davis beats Lytle, I say lets see what he is made of and book him to fight Karo

 
Comment by brendan
2008-12-15 14:52:53

id love to see marcus knock karo out, thatd make my nite

 
Comment by James S
2008-12-15 15:08:15

I got swick in a dominant fashion against rumble. not necessarily finishing the fight, but maybe outclassing him for 3 rounds. Johnson has the talent and athletic ability, but if they fought each other in their next fight i think swick is the more well rounded fighter. Alves would knock swick’s lights out.

 
 
Comment by Anger Jack
2008-12-15 16:43:52

Who is this Alves you speak of – another boringass wrestler that the UFC needs?

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Comment by j-bone
2008-12-15 17:15:37

the only way swick would win is by a boring decision.. sticking in and out…fuck swick boring

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Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 07:24:19

hahaha~

thiago alves would smash this dink swickly.

quick is not in the mix of top ww and maybe

thiago will be the one to tell him whats up.

too bad for swick~

thiago would tell him with his knees~

Comment by mikeybear
2008-12-15 09:23:43

just like everyone said marcus davis whould ko mike-
swick would go in with a game plan.
rumble johnson is gonns fight sanchez anyways

Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 11:45:23

Davis was injured in that fight…

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Comment by Crowls
2008-12-15 11:58:56

diego is goin to 155.

Swick VS. Kampmann

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Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 12:04:25

Kampmann is fighting some Brazilian newbee at 93 for his 170 debut.

 
Comment by Crowls
2008-12-15 12:17:08

is that confirmed yet?? thought it was just a rumor floating around

 
Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 12:25:18

Not confirmed yet, but 1 month out it should be soon. Personally I would rather see Swick/Kampmann like you suggested.

 
Comment by Crowls
2008-12-15 12:28:05

yea, maybe a tough first fight at a new weight for kampmann, but def a good fight between 2 legit fighters

 
Comment by john
2008-12-15 13:53:03

That fight is def happening. I hear great things about the brazlian Kat thats fighting Kampman. I also think that Martin will be a top 10 welterweight within a year, but for a first fight, dealing with your first weight cut of an additional 15 lbs…Kampan might be in trouble!

regardless of how his first fight goes, guys will have to take him serious in about a year. I would like to see him eventually fight Marcus Davis

 
 
 
 
Comment by Eric
2008-12-15 07:38:10

Either Swick is very brave or very stipid…I’ll go with the latter.

Comment by c-war
2008-12-15 10:51:08

Well its not like Swick hasn’t been winning. Besides that, when was the last time someone actually beat up Swick? He lost to Okami but that fight was very close and it went to a decision. Besides Alves and Fitch, I think Swick is the only other WW that stands at least a small chance against GSP.

Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 11:49:19

He also beat “the crow” when he was still good. That says a lot, IMO.

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Comment by SCOTT
2008-12-15 07:40:13

i can see rumble being on the london card against paul taylor,fight of the night written all over it!

 
Comment by Lester the Pimp
2008-12-15 07:44:48

Alves would absolutely demolish him, but maybe he will get a shot after Alves takes the belt away from GSP.

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-12-15 07:52:53

Swick is funny. He gives himself way too much credit. You just beat Jonathan ‘Glass Jaw’ Goulet, moron! I’m pretty sure I could beat Jonathan Goulet. I wish they would MAKE these AKA guys fight either other. How do they all expect to be considered the divisions best (which Swick is not) and not have to fight each other? Joe Silva and Dana need to make these guys either fight each other, switch divisions or cut their asses.

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 09:44:39

100% agreed~

i think all fighters from each division must fight whomever

the ufc brass thinks should be their opponent..

none of this ‘ i wont fight him ‘ ‘hes my bff’ crap~

if u wont fight who ur told?

u can geet out!

 
 
Comment by Jared
2008-12-15 07:54:05

swicks got a chance with his little machine gun punches, but overall alves would be to much for swick and ko him

 
Comment by Robert
2008-12-15 07:55:11

I like Swick but he needs to calm down a bit and take a deep breath…..a win is a win but Goulet(name?) is not even top 20

 
Comment by Insain
2008-12-15 07:56:41

Swick would ruin alves, alves wud be on his ass in the 1st round – when the bombs are thrown, swick never goes down first.

 
Comment by horny for mma
2008-12-15 08:06:01

Diego is going to lightweight. Alves has the title shot. I am sure he will wait it out. How about swick versus Karo???

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 08:09:27

oh yeah i forgot sanchez was going lw~

i still think thiago should have another fight before he fights for the belt.

swick vs. karo would be good but

i want to see rumble fight swick~

or even rumble vs karo would be nice!

 
Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 10:21:06

Swick vs. Karo qould be good…DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!

 
 
Comment by DownUnder
2008-12-15 08:13:36

Swick would actually give Thiago a run for his money … I also think that Kos would beat him if they had a rematch and he had time to prepare. Thiago is only a roid munching kick boxer .. I can not wait until GSP destroys him.

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 10:23:05

Kos will absloutley never beat Alves. More time to prepare? He’s had 20 some-odd years of world class wrestling practice, and couldn’t even get the takedown on Thiago…and Kos’s striking is no where near Alves’s. Keep dreaming on that one.

Comment by JoW
2008-12-15 12:09:17

agreed if they fight again kos will never walk again….

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Comment by miarep
2008-12-15 08:15:15

How are you not even giving Swick a chance vs. Thiago? Thiago is a beast no doubt, but Swick is used to fighting bigger opponents and his unorthodox style could give him fits. Let’s look at Thiago’s big wins:
vs. an underachieving Karo
vs. an over the hill Hughes
vs. Kos who had two weeks to train for the fight

I am not saying that Swick will win, but he won’t get crushed and he has a chance to win!

 
Comment by McArthur
2008-12-15 08:15:55

Swick/Johnson sounds good to me

 
Comment by horny for mma
2008-12-15 08:33:00

How about Jake Shields versus Mike Swick?????????

Comment by McArthur
2008-12-15 08:45:31

I heard EliteXC was coming back???

Comment by stinky~fingers
2008-12-15 09:56:20

horn for mma~

if? and i mean if? my boy jake can get in the ufc for the

begining of 09[which he desperatley wants] but probably wont??

i think swick~job would be a great victim for shields to sub 1st rnd.

mcarthur~

word has it~ that exc is trying to put together a card for

the 1st quart of 09, and want to have robbie fight jake.

co main event~

just a rumor for now.

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Comment by McArthur
2008-12-15 10:53:50

thanx stinky…I was really hoping we’ve seem the last of Elite but Jake/Robbie would be good

 
 
 
 
Comment by Oskarbravo
2008-12-15 09:09:32

Forget about Swick VS Alves… I want to see these damn AKA welterweights fighting each other:

Swick VS Koscheck

Swick VS Fitch

Koscheck VS Fitch

Its ridiculas to have 3 top welterweights all refusing to fight each other… If any of them are serious about holding the Welterweight belt they need to stop sucking each other off and get fighting.

Comment by RoB
2008-12-15 09:22:44

we all know Koscheck is the most dangerous and the no.1 AKA WW.. I’d say that Swick is on his way to pass Fitch also!

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 10:26:01

Kos is defnitely not better than Fitch…I don’t think many people would agree that he is.

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Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 11:50:48

I bet you Fitch would fight either of them. Kos and Swick don’t want to fight him because they know they would get their a$$es handed to them.

 
Comment by GodDamnMike
2008-12-15 11:52:49

I would. At least Kos put up a bit of a fight against GSP. Fitch just got tossed around for 5 rounds.

 
Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 12:06:00

good point goddamnmike

 
Comment by RoB
2008-12-15 12:14:40

ya right.. then tell me where Fitch is better or more dangerous than Koscheck? i’d say nowhere, Fitch might be better in practice but that doesn’t say shit cause practice and actual fights are 2 totally different things..

 
 
 
Comment by TKO
2008-12-15 10:13:05

I’ve been saying that for years now how come those two Fitch and Kos don’t fight each other and now Swick is in the mix. This is stupid

 
 
Comment by newfie
2008-12-15 10:05:25

swick doesnt deserve alves! alves deserves GSP, and swick isnt close..so a quick swick upset would shag that…and that is possible because they are both stand up guys…but GSP would wrestle and control the shit outta swick and wouldnt be an exciting fight.

 
Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 10:30:02

I think Kos need to move to 155, just like Diego. He’s kind of small for WW, and he will never be better than a number 2 or 3 in that division. Especially because he’s already over 30 years old. If he wants to hold a belt, he’d better make the cut. Imagine him fighting guys like Pellegrino, Florian, Huerta, Stevenson, Griffin, Sherk, or Diego again, etc…I think Kos could become the best at 155, that is of course only if BJ decides to vacate the division after he whoopsm on GSP at 94…lol :)

BJ BJ BJ!

Comment by BNF
2008-12-15 11:54:27

I know he said he would drop down to 155. I think he wrestled close to that weight before, so maybe it wouldn’t be a problem? But, then you still have guys like Sherk and Diego there who will still beat him down. Koscheck, face it, you will never be a champion in the UFC!

Comment by --utaptout-- AKA..."The Prodigy's" 4th biggest hugger
2008-12-15 12:07:48

I think Diego wins a rematch between them, but I don’t think Sherk would beat him. Kosm has reaqch and height on Sherk, and I think he could stuff Sherk’s takedowns and even put Sherk on his back. Probably a boring LNP fest, but I think Kos would win a decision.

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Comment by DADEAL1
2008-12-15 11:06:57

“Rumble” Johnson will fight 4a the WW title with in his next 5 fights… Especially if he fights Karo or Sanchez or anyone who would need to take him down to win… His wrestling is to good…

 
Comment by Noles
2008-12-15 11:26:47

Swick vs Haslett is a good matchup at the current time

 
Comment by nathan
2008-12-15 11:47:30

After beating a guy who isn’t even top ten, by the way is swick a top ten, calling out the number one contender LOL. He needs to be more consistent at 170 and actually beat a few top ten fighters or one of them to be a contender. Thiago did in his last 3 fight, karo got his first tko, he tko’d hughes who previously has only been beaten by 2 guys penn and gsp in 23 fights, over the hill he’s only 34, and koscheck is a top 5 fighter, thiago definitely isn’t over rated. To me he poses a bigger threat to gsp than penn does. Utaptout your delusional if you think kos could fight at 155lb why would he? He’s a top 5 fighter right now, survived 3 rounds with thiago, which wasn’t completely one sided at least one judge gave a round to him and is still improving and he walks around 190ish he’s a big welter weight like gsp, 155 is insane.

 
Comment by hughes
2008-12-15 13:59:00

is he for real, he thought okami was to strong, last time i checked alves wasn’t to small either, i think maby if he won another 2 fights against top competion then possibly give him a chance, he’s just beat a guy who doesn’t exactly have the best chin and now he thinks he’s ready for alves, i think that would end quite badly for him, don’t get me wrong i’m not a swick hater or anything, i normally like watching him fight but he would get destoryed by alves.

 
Comment by LG
2008-12-15 14:04:51

Swick vs anthony johnson, Alves has already more than earned his title shot and he has a good chance of knocking out gsp or penn.

 
Comment by xwolfmanxx
2008-12-15 15:15:05

Alves will not fight again. Why risk losing, when you have a guranteed title shot within, say 6 months.

Anything can happen and no matter how good you are you still know this, so he will not lose his shot!

Swick was doing pretty well in the middle weight division against guys with 10-15 pounds on him come fight day. I personally think swick would give most ww’s a run for there money.

swick-hazelett/kelly/taylor/karo

on ufc 95 perhaps

 
Comment by DB
2008-12-15 20:17:39

Have Swick fight Rumble Johnson or Dan Hardey. Everyone has forgotten about Hardey, but he just beat Gono.

 
Comment by bassy
2008-12-16 07:01:23

UFC sign Jake Shields and then Shields vs. Swick. Shields will smash him and then Swick is gone and we have another contender in the 170 division.

 
Comment by EMM
2008-12-16 10:05:27

Get real Swick.

 
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