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Without further delay, see below for the latest TUF 8 Finale results. (Note: This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest detailed round-by-round action!)
TUF 8 FINALE QUICK RESULTS:
Efrain Escudero defeats Phillippe Nover via Unanimous Decision
Ryan Bader defeats Vinicius Magalhaes via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Wilson Gouveia defeats Jason Macdonald via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Anthony Johnson defeats Kevin Burns via TKO (Head Kick) Round 3
Junie Browning defeats David Kaplan via Submission (Armbar) Round 2
Krzysztof Soszynski defeats Shane Primm via submission (kimura) in round two
Eliot Marshall defeats Jules Bruchez via submission (rear naked choke) in round one
Tom Lawlor defeats Kyle Kingsbury via unanimous decision
Shane Nelson defteas George Roop via split decision
Rolando Delgado defeats John Polakowski via submission (guillotine choke) in round two
TUF 8 FINALE BLOW-BY-BLOW LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY:
Druby here.
Phillipe Nover vs. Efrain Escudero (155-pound limit)
First round: Nover with a head kick. Body kick from Nover. Body kick from Efrain, and big right hook from Nover. Efrain with a take down and now NOver with full guard. Efrain pulls him against the cage. Nover to the feet and Efrain lands a right and now Efrain has his back. Nover with good wrist control for now. Efrain turns around and lands two big bombs from the top. Great ground and pound. Nover trying for a triangle now. Now he switches to the arm and their back to the feet. Efrain with another take down. Back to the feet. Head kick from Nover then he misses and right and goes to the ground. BIG shot from the top from Efrain. Huge punch. Efrain with some ground and pound. Back to the feet for Nover. Nover with two knees to the body. Knee from Efrain, then one from Nover. Efrain wins that 10-9 but great action all around.
Second round: Nover comes in swinging for the fences and he just misses and now Efrain with another take down. Kicks to the leg from Efrain while standing and Nover on his back. Back to the feet. Efrain grabs a leg and almost gets the sweep. Both guys clinched against the fence, and exchanging knees. Big elbow from Nover. Their out of the clinch. Leg kick from Efrain. Nover with another HUGE right but misses. Efrain with a hold of a single leg and now he gets the take down. Half guard for Nover. Efrain just holding him down now. Waiting out the round to win the 2nd rd. Nover with a big body kick and Efrain closes the round with another take down. 10-9 Efrain. Nover needs a submission or KO for the win here in the 3rd.
Third round: Inside leg kick from Nover. Efrain with a leg kick. Nover lands a big right but Efrain eats it and gets the take down. Back to the feet. Double jab from Nover. Big front kick to the head from Nover, but Efrain grabs a single and gets another take down. Nover looking for a rubber guard. Nover with elbows to the triceps of Efrain. Nover looking for a Oma Plata. Efrain just holding on for dear life hear, Nover is cranking it but he slips out. Thats the bell, Efrain should have won the fight, but it was really close to being a last minute submission.,
Final result: Efrain Escudero defeats Phillippe Nover via Unanimous Decision
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Ryan Bader vs. Vinicius Magalhães (205-pound limit)
First round: Bader with a leg kick. Body kick from Vinny. Inside leg kick from Vinny. Bader with a right. Leg kick from Bader. Body kick from Vinny. Bader runs in with a flying knee. Both fighters exchange body kicks. Bader lands a solid right. Bader with a big right and Vinny is down and just covering up and thats it its all over!!! Bader with a big KO. Vinny got hit in the temple and just went down and covered up. Big win for Bader a long season and now hes the new 205 TUF champ.
Second round:
Third round:
Final result: Ryan Bader defeats Vinicius Magalhaes via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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Wilson Gouveia vs. Jason MacDonald (185-pound limit)
First round: Inside leg kick from Wilson. Macdonald shoots for a double leg. Gouveia now down to his back but using butterfly guard. Back to the feet great defense by Wilson. Clinched against the fence and now they separate. Leg kick from Wilson. Body kick from Macdonald. Wilson lands a big jab then a hook and another jab and now Macdonald is down and hurt!!! Gouveia is raining down bombs!!! HUGE elbows from Wilson and Macdonald is cut open BAD!!! Thats it its all over. Gouveia dominates.
Second round:
Third round:
Final result: Wilson Gouveia defeats Jason Macdonald via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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Kevin Burns vs. Anthony Johnson (170-pound limit)
First round: Jab from Burns. Another from Burns. Inside leg kick from Burns. Jab from Johnson. Burns with a stiff left jab. Burns with a stinging right hand. Johnson with a great jab. Leg kick from Johnson then he shoots and gets the take down. Johnson peppering in some body shots. Johnson with a big right and now he passes to side control. Burns has a triangle from the bottom and now hes trying to lock it in. Johnson though slips out and lands a good hammer fist. Burns with full guard now. Johnson throwing lefts from the guard. Burns with an elbow form the bottom. Yamasaki stands them up. Burns with a good right. Johnson catches a kick and trips Burns to the floor. Johnson now working big leg kicks while standing. WOW Johnson lands two HUGE lefts and Burns a right as the bell rings. Great round, id say 10-9 Johnson for the take downs but very close competitive round. Great start to the fight.
Second round: Front kick from Johnson. Great pace to the fight. Both guys moving forward. Leg kick from Johnson. Johnson shoots for a single and Burns stifles it for now, but Johnson is relentless and finishes the take down. Burns now going for a Kimura. Johnson slips out and is right into Burns half guard. Burns now with full guard. Big elbows from the bottom from Burns. Burns with some good elbows from the bottom. Johnson keeping his composure. Johnson landing some good punches with the ground and pound. Johnson working good left hooks. Johnson working shots to the body. Burns goes for a triangle but Johnson slips out and makes him pay with a big right. Burns goes for an arm bar and Johnson lands a good hammer fist. Gotta give it to Johnson again 10-9 for his ground and pound work.
Third round: Inside leg kick from Johnson. Burns with a leg kick and Johnson with a good jab. HEAD KICK FROM JOHNSON AND BURNS IS OUT COLD!!!! WOW A BRUTAL KO, JOHNSON WITH A MONSTER HEAD KICK WHAT A GREAT KNOCKOUT!!!
Final result: Anthony Johnson defeats Kevin Burns via TKO (Head Kick) Round 3
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Junie Browning vs. Dave Kaplan (155-pound limit)
First round: Leg kick by Browing and Kaplan gets caught in the jewls. Brief stoppage. Leg kick by Kaplan. Great straight right and left hook from Junie. Junie with a good flurry. Nice left and flying knee from Junie wow he looks good. Now Kaplan drops down and gets an ankle lock but Browning slips out. Junie has his back. But now their back to the feet and Junie lands another great combo!! Wow he looks like a different fighter. Kaplan with a nice right with his first offense of the entire fight. Kaplan gets a take down but Junie is back to the feet after a missed leg lock by Kaplan. Junie now on top in side control. Junie with a big elbow. Junie takes the back and is locking in a rear naked choke! Kaplan fights him off and reverses it and is now on top. Back to the feet Kaplan lands a left and then a knee. Junie with a nice elbow. Thats the bell, gotta give it to Junie 10-9 he looks solid on the feet.
Second round: Junie shoots and gets a double leg take down. Kaplan with half guard. Junie trying to land some backward elbows. Junie now passes to side control, great pass from guard. Junie now shoots in for an arm bar and he cranks it and thats it. Wow, Junie Browning looked like a completely different fighter tonight. He obviously came prepared and made significant strides since his time on the show.
Third round:
Final result: Junie Browning defeats David Kaplan via Submission (Armbar) Round 2
-end-
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unexcited for this…
Does anyone even want to watch this crappy fight card Only fight I care about is seeing Felipe, and the Gouveia fight….everything else is TRASH!
Im not even excited about next weeks UFC fight for troops event! Whats wrong with me?
It’s nothing wrong with you.. the cause is good.. the card.. blah..
Truth.
I’m excited… I got Phillipe, Vinny, Gouveia, Johnson, Kaplan, Kryzstof, Shane, Eliot, Tom, and John the Hugger. I wish they had a better main event, but I’m excited.
didnt the last TUF finale have fights like Diego vs. Luigi and Tanner vs. Grove? THis card is extremely lackluster and I dont understand why.
JOHN. i would wait till the fights are over before i decided to trash them. you’re not the only person that ive seen that feels this way though, which makes me wonder if the ufc or mma will ever go to the networks or have a weekly series like boxing does with espn2’s friday night fights. these are the type of fights/fighters that one would see if mma were to have weekly shows.(im including next weeks ufn, which looks prety good to me for free) so would fans support mma weekly unless it has “star” or name fighters on every card?
Bader and Nover are my aces on this one…
you type so professional john. stick with wacking off and leave the comments to those who actually know and appreciate dudes that have the balls to get in the cage. queer
What did you expect? It’s a TUF finale card. You’re not going to see any top guys. If you were a fan of this season, then this card will be fun to watch. If not, then you won’t. I enjoyed this season, so I’ll be watching.
Koscheck/Yoshida is a great fight on free TV. I’m not going to complain about that card, considering one of the most stacked UFC cards ever will be on PPV less than three weeks later.
maybe you can enlighten me…what exactly was there to like about this season? mediocre fighters in very boring fights. Not much emphasis on training and blatent favoritism and total disregard for a contract (when it comes to Junie). If I were on that show, and assaulted by Junie, I would be suing Zuffa as well as spike T.V. I’m on a reality show and was given a guarantee of safety and not having to worry about being assaulted outside the octagon! In my eyes, zuffa and spike would be considered in breach of this guarantee!
You’re acting like all of this just started happening on this season. Last time I checked, guys that lost on the show were fighting on the finale and in future UFC cards since TUF1.
Every season focuses on the drama in the house. Again, this has been happening since season 1. I would like to see more training too, but I realize at this point that it’s not going to happen. I’m still entertained by the show, though.
I think people tune in expecting to see world class fighters. Thats not the idea of the show. Was Forrest a world champion 3-4 years ago? No. Most of the guys are up and coming fighters who haven’t fully evolved as MMA fighters. Sure, Bader relies on his wrestling waaaay too much NOW. But, isn’t that exactly what Koscheck did? Yes, Josh Koscheck, the guy that is a top 5 WW in the world right now….
I thought the talent on this season’s show was better than the last 2 seasons by far. Two seasons ago Tommy Speer was fighting in the finale, are you kidding me? If you don’t like the format of the show, fine, but don’t act like it just started this season.
you’re right to an extenty. I never watched the first season, but have tuned in since. If the things that are going on that stink is still going on, the UFC has every opportunity to change it. Do you think keeping Junie all season is going to deter people from assaulting others? obviously telling these guys they have to pay for what they break didn’t stop them either. The UFC has a good show here, they just need to put their foot down and end some of the Bull!
I totally agree with that. Believe me, I would love to see more training. And I think Junie is an absolute disgrace to the sport, his family, himself, etc. But, something about the show still draws me in. And even though most of these guys won’t amount to anything in the UFC, or even in the sport, I’m still interested in watching them fight on the finale. I honestly feel that a handful of these guys have potential to make their mark in the UFC. I haven’t necessarily felt that way about a season since TUF 5. And I actually feel a little better about this season than I do TUF 5. Maybe that’s because a lot of these guys are young and green, and still have plenty of time to evolve as fighters.
We’ll see, though.
I actually think Johnson might KO burns this time. Besides these three, i don’t know why anyone on here has a contract with zuffa. I say they all get canned after this.
me too…why are they cutting guys like Soko, and allowing guys like Krystov to fight
because Krystov was on tuf and Soko wasn’t…..
hey idiot, fight for the troops was last wednesday!!!
Look at the date when he posted it….Id!ot
i’ll watch anyone fight especially when it’s next to free. thank you bader for knocking that dickweed out. i hate cheering for anyone that’s not from the states unless i have no choice but i hope big egg nog wraps mir and lesner up early for christmas ….or late
Thank god Fight For The Troops was this past Wednesday…because obviously a die hard fan lie yourself, shouldnt be subjected to such a boring card!! Wednesday’s fights and tonights fights were great!! Once you truely watch…then hit mmamania.com up again…until then…peace!!
I’d rather watch Sylvia and Ken Shamrock.
Krzysztof is fighting on the finale with EVERY OTHER FIGHTER from the TUF cast. Are you honestly comparing his situation with Soko’s?
You guys really baffle me sometimes.
Why is Junie televised? I am trying to forget him. I would much rather see Krzysztof Soszynski.
Agreed. Not a fan of Kaplan either but hopefully he drops Loonie in about 21 seconds and the UFC follows suit.
It’s obvious that Dana sees him as a future star for some reason. He sees him as the next Chris Leben.
When Dana “asked” the guys what they wanted to do with Junie, he definitely manipulated them into keeping him in the house. FIRST, he told them that he wanted to see Junie fight. Then he asked Efrain if he still wanted to fight Junie. Like Efrain was going to say no to the president of the UFC? I guarantee you more than half of those guys wanted to send Junie packing before Dana had that conversation with them. Dana got want he wanted, though…
Oh no more Junie, well at least he will only get to talk if he wins.
Junie is the next Ed Herman, except a bigger lack-luster all talk douche bag.
good comparison…has short fuse been cut yet?
Thats a horrible comparison!! Ed might not be the best fighter to come out of tuff but he’s not a douch bag like junie browning!!
Good comparison…Junie is a total D-bag. Zero ground game and average stand up. This guy should just fade into obscurity.
He must have pics of Dana doing something cause there is noway that little douche bag should still be on the show. CAN WE SAY HEADCASE boys and girls. Hopefully Kalpan will knock him out in the finals.
I’ve heard alot of rumours about nest season…personally I think Marquart/Bisping would be a great choice….WolfSlair/Jackson…I also think Bisping/nate would be a great fight with Marquart eventually getting a sub victory…Thoughts???
last season’s finale we had burkman v. hazelett, fisher v. stephens, sanchez v. fioravanti, and grove v. tanner. now we have browning v. kaplan. weak sauce. but i guess between fight for the troops and this, there will be some solid, FREE fights, so we shouldn’t complain too much.
Exactly. And not to mention, the guys on this season were better fighters. That’s usually the way it goes when it’s broken down into 2 weight classes. They couldn’t do that with TUF 7, because then you would have fights like Jeremy May vs. Patrick Schultz.
with those two it’s actually weak man-sauce.
Some of you people can never be satisfied. Not every event is going to be a marketed as the greatest event in UFC history. Shut up and enjoy the fights, and save your bitching until after its done.
I pick:
Nover
Vinny
Wilson
Junie
Rumble
Eliot
Lawlor
Roop
Polowski
and probably Kryz
True, true.
+2
to the nth degree
I think it’s hard to complain when you get two free UFC cards over a three day period and then a massive stacked UFC card with two titles on the line just a fortnight after that!
You should also bear in mind that Zuffa put on WEC 37 last night too so December has been a good month for any MMA fan TV wise.
Excellent use of fortnight. Can I assume you’re not from the states?
Go, Mr. Burns, Go!!!
hey mania you have macdonalds and gouveia’s records mixed up jason is 21-10 wilson is 11-5
Main event (Televised):
155 lbs.: Phillipe Nover vs. Efrain Escudero to determine TUF 8 lightweight winner should be Nover but I will go out on a limb and say Escudero will win the decision. These guys are copies of each other.
Main card (Televised):
205 lbs.: Ryan Bader vs. Vinicius Magalhães to determine TUF 8 light heavyweight winner Will be Vini (I dont like him but he does what he does well)
185 lbs.: Wilson Gouveia (21–10) vs. Jason MacDonald (PLAY SMART AND HE SHOULD WIN)(11–5)
170 lbs.: Kevin Burns (7-1) vs. Anthony Johnson (HE WILL KO HIM IN THE FIRST 3 MInutes)(5-2)
155 lbs.: Junie Browning vs. Dave Kaplan (Seriously dont care who wins, although it could prove fun if kaplan acutally follows a better game plan than… I will let him hit me, ALOT)
Under card (May not be broadcast):
205 lbs.: Krzysztof Soszynski (NO DOUBT W)vs. Shane Primm
205 lbs.: Eliot Marshall (SAME HERE W) vs. Jules Bruchez
205 lbs.: Kyle Kingsbury vs. Tom Lawlor (WHO???)
155 lbs.: Shane Nelson vs. George Roop (WHO???)
155 lbs.: Rolando Delgado vs. John Polakowski (WHO???)
See a theme her with the last 3 fights no one cares……..
First off how the hell is nover and Escudero copies of eachother?? There not even close to being the same fighter!!
Nover is going to destroyyyyyyyyy Efrain…and they are complete opposites of each other.
I’m actually looking forward to this.
Buaaaa buaaa buaaa im crying because the “FREE” event is not full of big names buaa buaa look at me i like to cry when i get “FREE” stuff buaa buaa…
I have never understood that…..
WOOHOO! Junie’s back! Cannot wait to see that mofo whoop up on Kaplan. That dude is more fucking retarded than Junie. Can’t wait!
the entire special olympics team from chernobyl combined aren’t as retarded as Junie B.
Since Junie’s BS on the show, I have lost interest. what hapened to Dana’s comments about not wanting MMA fighters to look like hoodlums and savages (ala JT Money). all those guys who got kicked off in prior seasons for lesser crimes – like the guy who missed his girlfriend – he was human, a little bit wussy, but not a psycho. I am not gonna watch this Finale or any other PPV fight in the future that Junie is on.
This is the worst card the UFC has ever put on Spike tv.I can’t believe that they didn’t put together a decent main event to go with all the TUF 8 casts fights.I’ll watch because I want to see Anthony”Rumble”Johnson knock someone’s fucking head off,but aside from that this card sucks!
Vinny and Nover are my picks to win.
Nover has shown he’s more than capable of getting it done.The man just displays such drive and determination when he’s in the octagon.Efrain has good skills to but I think Nover might just take this one
Vinny has some top level Jiu-Jitsu and is going up against a guy who’s main offense is take downs.We saw in the fight with Eliot Marshall that Bader’s take down’s are top notch but he didn’t do much once he had taken him down.If he does this against Vinny then I predict a Submission victory for Vinny
Dude, did I miss it??? Oh, my bad.
phillipe, vinny, macdonald, johnson, junie, krystoff, elliot, tom, shane and polaw…
Don’t complain too much guys. We also get to watch Matt Serra vs some video game tonight too. Video game by strikes early 2nd round.
Roli wins via guilitine, 1-1 so far
It’s funny. I’m watching the Eliot/Bader fight and right before the third round the camera zooms in on Arianny Celest’s tits. Im wondering how that goes in the control room: “Yeah ok camera 2, could you pan down from the round 3 sign and zoom in on and follow Arianny’s love jugs please?”
lloll
ummm…bader blows. did you see him lay and pray in the semis?
hmmmm seems like everyone is trying to get the takedowns and do enough just to grind out a decision win…how awsome
My nite sucks im 0-3
i went 4 for 5. i bet emotionally against june and the cunt showed me. i hate when children show me up. i’ll never bet on a june browning fight again. thank u efrain and bader. i had a hunch phillip didn’t wrestle enough and that cost him this time. i’m sure he’ll button that up and be very solid. punching power when used intelligently makes people who are better strikers not so better anymore. bader’s skill as a striker is a bit basic but he hits hard and that changes everything. you know the old boxer vs puncher cliche. that was decent overall.
I hope Randy isn’t in Junie “The Speedo Wearers” corner.
Now 1-3 man I was way Off! Worst start off ever!
Fuckin Dana needs to learn how to say Efrain.
Ef-ree-on? Wtf?
so poor this whole card and the last event for the troops. why can’t they put a couple of bigger stars on the cards.
Tenderness??? LMFAO, ok, Kaplan is pretty funny. Is it me or is there NO life in this crowd, no cheering and only a smidgen of boos for Browning, or little M ‘n M or whatever.
Tenderness. Where is the tenderness?
Hopefully it will be Junie’s face.
GJ Caplan for music choice. Tits, sir.
Doh.
Junie and Kaplan Remind me of a trailor park fight!
haha AGREED I think Junie sealed that when he walked out to eminem
haha AGREED I think Junie sealed it when he walked in to eminem
Junie looks like a bull dike
Obviously the tenderness is in Kaplan’s cup after that scrotekick…
is there any way to watch this online??????????????????????
Channelsurfing.net may have it
Junie just won!!!
He looked real good too. Elliot absolutely destryoed Jules B. Makin it look easy.
I knew Marshall was a good fighter! But who the hell was Jules???
Yeah Jules sucks, it looks like he panics every time hes in there.
Junies stand up looks much improved but how much longer will his cardio last lol.
not bad 4/5 so far
I think Bonnar is mildly retarded?
When I see Bonner, I always think just how far Forrest left him behind!
He did sound like a Special Olympian for that Dave and Buster commercial.
Bonnar had a few injuries, plus that 9-month suspension for roids. None of that helped his development any.
Now how the hell did anybody pick Mcdonald to win??????
Thats a good question. ATT WHAT!!!!
exactly Macdonald is a gatekeeper, who loses every other fight
And people thought that Gouveia was the underdog??? MacDonald is a gatekeeper lets just face it
Id like to hear Goldy say Efrain correctly just once.
I’d like to hear ANYBODY in the UFC pronounce his name like it is.
“EH-frah-in”“Uh-FRAIN”“EE-frain”“EH-frin”“Eh-frah-EEN”
Anthony Johnson Looks Like RuPaul!
Hope Rumble loses!
Damn son!!!
HOLY SHIT!!!!!
I told ALLL you guys that Junie was an awesome fighter!!! what now?? huh? thats right! no more trash talk hoes!
give me a break man, who did he beat??
Im Not Impressed- Im not Impressed-Im not Impressed With His Performance!
R u Serious!
did Vinny just say hes gunna beat Bader off … thought thats what i heard akward LOL
Dont get all happy now.
Vinny by sub! F*ck “Master” Bader!!!!!!
Vinny by armbar or triangle.
Vinny sure doesnt like getting punched
good job bader
I thought both Vinny’s and Bader’s standup looked really awkward. I just don’t think Vinny can handle getting hit. I don’t even think he has a glass jaw, I just think when he gets hit he can’t handle it mentally and crumbles.
Looks like all the hype of vinny’s superior BJJ worked out well. War Bader!!!
My Nite has really sucked im 6-3
I only got Vinny wrong!
Are they having Bull Fighting tonight?
Dude, I used to wear a sarape like that to the club!
I bet all the ladies loved u hahahaha
Ok, ok Lets go Efrain!!!
Hell yeah Escudero! that was a sick fight.
Me and BNF called it! Efrain was being overlooked!
Someone Could Make alot of money tonight
WORST FINISH EVER a minute of trying for a sub while F-ray-in Pretty much takes a nap while the clock runs down stand those dumbarses up!
I got your Fathead!!!
UPSET! like what i think
A bunch of awesome fights today.
A lot better than Fight for the Troops.
Who was that nobady who said this card was going to suck?
Typo= nobody
If you know your fighting a wrestler why wouldnt you have any take down defense!!.. man what a dissapointment
Yay now we dont have to listen to these Novar comparison’s to GSP and Silva anymore. Thank God
Anthony johnson headkick was the highlight of the night, damn that was sick, he is gonna be a force in that division.
I was hoping my hometown boy would at least put up a fight, and he did for the first round, but caught a nasty head kick, which ultimately resulted in what I feared: an absolutely nasty AJ knockout.
Bader is gay
am i the only one who saw that bader didn’t even hit vinny in the face with that tko. he like hit his arm and shoulder and vinny fell to the ground. his chin is very weak although he didn’t even get hit there.
your right. but he did get smashed in the throat. i think i would of tapped from that!
david kaplan’s entrance was hilarious! ha i forget the name of the song but it was so funny ha
I’m pretty sure it was from ‘Breakfast Club’. Hilarious. I’m glad he has a sense of humor, because he is a terrible fighter.
Jason Macdonald earns biggest dissapointment of the night
agreed….the guy walks through everyone at 185 unless you are in like the top 8 then he fails to show up (most of the time)
MAN Bader threw a nasty right! great fight…
efrain escudero is the shit.
Why why is frank still on kaplan’s cock he sucks dick he got rickrolled on the show.