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	<title>Comments on: Jon Fitch sounds off on getting fired, rehired and the infamous dotted line (video)</title>
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got in, I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re going to get back to this thread. These fighters sign their contracts staggered 1 or more yrs apart. How do you get them all together at once? Many have already signed. Fighter&#039;s career that are going up at the peak of making big $$$ they&#039;ve waited to make for yrs, how do they say no and miss that window of opportunity? They don&#039;t have multi-millions like other athletes to sit on the sidelines and protest it out. Not many can do what Couture did. They need their signing bonuses &amp; fight $$$. Now that Pride is gone, where else is there to go?

Couture did tell dana where the sun could shine on the likeness contract long time ago, and I think it&#039;s a safe bet Lesnar has something with the WWE or negotiated with Dana about his likeness. 

It really comes down to options, there aren&#039;t any, the UFC is the place to fight and make your name and $$$. They&#039;ll make more $$$ for fights in the UFC than anywhere, get more name recognition to start their own gyms or anything they may want to do with their likness by asking the UFC&#039;s permission. Unfortunetly they&#039;re getting robbed on the back end... DVD&#039;s, Video games, they should make some $$$ here it is a huge, huge, industry. Who makes $$$ off of somebody elses likness for zero compenstation and tie it up for a lifetime? I&#039;m not really sure if this will hold up under litigation, but who&#039;s going to try to fight the UFC in later yrs? 

You&#039;re right, these guys are terrified of Dana, not to many of them can afford to miss a &#039;fight&#039; or more. The guys that can are making enough fight $$$ are doing just that, trying not to rock the boat and keep winning, remember Josh Koscheck&#039;s post?... fighters are almost forced to have that attitude, because of White&#039;s willingness to cut them off.

Sad but true, Dana White really robbed me of enthusiasm for MMA this week, he&#039;s the perfect guy to run the UFC, but I hate to this and the way he handled it... as much as he doesn&#039;t want to be a douchebag boxing promoter.... his boxing background is seeping through.. I read about the stuff Don King did back in the day, and I bet White took a few lessons away from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got in, I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re going to get back to this thread. These fighters sign their contracts staggered 1 or more yrs apart. How do you get them all together at once? Many have already signed. Fighter&#8217;s career that are going up at the peak of making big $$$ they&#8217;ve waited to make for yrs, how do they say no and miss that window of opportunity? They don&#8217;t have multi-millions like other athletes to sit on the sidelines and protest it out. Not many can do what Couture did. They need their signing bonuses &amp; fight $$$. Now that Pride is gone, where else is there to go?</p>
<p>Couture did tell dana where the sun could shine on the likeness contract long time ago, and I think it&#8217;s a safe bet Lesnar has something with the WWE or negotiated with Dana about his likeness. </p>
<p>It really comes down to options, there aren&#8217;t any, the UFC is the place to fight and make your name and $$$. They&#8217;ll make more $$$ for fights in the UFC than anywhere, get more name recognition to start their own gyms or anything they may want to do with their likness by asking the UFC&#8217;s permission. Unfortunetly they&#8217;re getting robbed on the back end&#8230; DVD&#8217;s, Video games, they should make some $$$ here it is a huge, huge, industry. Who makes $$$ off of somebody elses likness for zero compenstation and tie it up for a lifetime? I&#8217;m not really sure if this will hold up under litigation, but who&#8217;s going to try to fight the UFC in later yrs? </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, these guys are terrified of Dana, not to many of them can afford to miss a &#8216;fight&#8217; or more. The guys that can are making enough fight $$$ are doing just that, trying not to rock the boat and keep winning, remember Josh Koscheck&#8217;s post?&#8230; fighters are almost forced to have that attitude, because of White&#8217;s willingness to cut them off.</p>
<p>Sad but true, Dana White really robbed me of enthusiasm for MMA this week, he&#8217;s the perfect guy to run the UFC, but I hate to this and the way he handled it&#8230; as much as he doesn&#8217;t want to be a douchebag boxing promoter&#8230;. his boxing background is seeping through.. I read about the stuff Don King did back in the day, and I bet White took a few lessons away from him.</p>
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		<title>By: ironfist_55</title>
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		<dc:creator>ironfist_55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL so true. that&#039;s hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL so true. that&#8217;s hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: chefdaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chefdaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thorazine, yeah, I read that link when you put it earlier. Thanks for the info. This whole situation is ........isn&#039;t right. There has to be a great deal that we simply aren&#039;t privy to. If what that link says is correct, noone, not even short bus riders, would sign that. But then again, why aren&#039;t we hearing about it from other fighters? I know most are terrified of dana, but there are some (Penn, GSP, Couture, Lesnar, the Silvas and more) who could tell dana to shove it where the sun don&#039;t shine and dana couldn&#039;t do squat w/o looking the fool. What&#039;s your take on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thorazine, yeah, I read that link when you put it earlier. Thanks for the info. This whole situation is &#8230;&#8230;..isn&#8217;t right. There has to be a great deal that we simply aren&#8217;t privy to. If what that link says is correct, noone, not even short bus riders, would sign that. But then again, why aren&#8217;t we hearing about it from other fighters? I know most are terrified of dana, but there are some (Penn, GSP, Couture, Lesnar, the Silvas and more) who could tell dana to shove it where the sun don&#8217;t shine and dana couldn&#8217;t do squat w/o looking the fool. What&#8217;s your take on this?</p>
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		<title>By: SilasM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilasM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya&#039;!  Dana has down a ton for MMA, but I think he may be letting his ego run the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya&#8217;!  Dana has down a ton for MMA, but I think he may be letting his ego run the show.</p>
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		<title>By: SilasM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilasM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think overall both parties handled this poorly, but without a doubt Dana thinks he is an MMA God and will strike down anyone that opposes him.  It&#039;s time for Dana to start acting like a corprate CEO; if you have to play hardball, play it! That said, everything is open to negotiation and only a jackass would fire a top &quot;employee&quot; because he wanted to negotiate a contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think overall both parties handled this poorly, but without a doubt Dana thinks he is an MMA God and will strike down anyone that opposes him.  It&#8217;s time for Dana to start acting like a corprate CEO; if you have to play hardball, play it! That said, everything is open to negotiation and only a jackass would fire a top &#8220;employee&#8221; because he wanted to negotiate a contract.</p>
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		<title>By: LOKIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOKIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Im glad I have a career/education rather than just a job.   If my employer pulled that kind of crap, I would tell him to  fuck off.   Noone has control over me.    John Fitch,s boss is an idiot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Im glad I have a career/education rather than just a job.   If my employer pulled that kind of crap, I would tell him to  fuck off.   Noone has control over me.    John Fitch,s boss is an idiot</p>
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		<title>By: BNF</title>
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		<dc:creator>BNF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda the troll...  That was incredibly unclever.  Douche...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda the troll&#8230;  That was incredibly unclever.  Douche&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chefdaddy, from what I read, it&#039;s much more than video games n&#039; CDS, what is Fitch to do? Explain all the contract clauses to us regarding likeness and how unfair it is? What he did in that interview was the safe &amp; rational thing to try to appease the powers that be and move on with his career as a MMA artist and avoiding another termination.

If u really want to get a better idea of what is in that contract regarding video games, CD&#039;s &amp; likeness read this link (sounds like u have), and internet surf Randy Couture&#039;s issues with the likeness contract... it seems to be an account of what&#039;s really up. I understand this is a site about opinions and very few on here spend this kind of time researching, I do once in awhile, Sean Sherk&#039;s CSAC appeal, Couture&#039;s legal issues, and now Fitch.

http://www.tapoutlive.com/images/mags/ufc_legal.pdf

I think you&#039;re dead on Chefdaddy, I haven&#039;t read 1 thing that would make me think otherwise, and I&#039;m pretty open to listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chefdaddy, from what I read, it&#8217;s much more than video games n&#8217; CDS, what is Fitch to do? Explain all the contract clauses to us regarding likeness and how unfair it is? What he did in that interview was the safe &amp; rational thing to try to appease the powers that be and move on with his career as a MMA artist and avoiding another termination.</p>
<p>If u really want to get a better idea of what is in that contract regarding video games, CD&#8217;s &amp; likeness read this link (sounds like u have), and internet surf Randy Couture&#8217;s issues with the likeness contract&#8230; it seems to be an account of what&#8217;s really up. I understand this is a site about opinions and very few on here spend this kind of time researching, I do once in awhile, Sean Sherk&#8217;s CSAC appeal, Couture&#8217;s legal issues, and now Fitch.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tapoutlive.com/images/mags/ufc_legal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tapoutlive.com/images/mags/ufc_legal.pdf</a></p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re dead on Chefdaddy, I haven&#8217;t read 1 thing that would make me think otherwise, and I&#8217;m pretty open to listening.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dana sucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dana sucks</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i always stuck up for dana white i liked him reading this jon fitch stuff it makes hard to like dana dana white dosent care about the people that made him a rich idiot come on dana ufc should fire his ass what sealed the deal for me is letting the russian pitbull go come on  lets see tito vs white i hate tito but i hate dana more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i always stuck up for dana white i liked him reading this jon fitch stuff it makes hard to like dana dana white dosent care about the people that made him a rich idiot come on dana ufc should fire his ass what sealed the deal for me is letting the russian pitbull go come on  lets see tito vs white i hate tito but i hate dana more</p>
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