MMA Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar would not make it out of first round against Fedor Emelianenko
By: MMAmania
“We would welcome a Fedor vs. Lesnar matchup, but to act in a preemptive fashion to address the possibility that UFC officials will try and position Lesnar as the No. 1 heavyweight in the world, much like they have tried to use a marketing ploy to brand Anderson Silva as the number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world. In a match between Fedor and Lesnar, we do not feel that at this stage Lesnar would be able to make it out of the first round.”
– MMA’s “Baghdad Bob,” er, M-1 Global American Vice President Jerry Millen issues a statement via MMAWeekly.com regarding the likely result of a potential match up between WAMMA Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko and newly crowned UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar that will more than likely never happen anytime soon - if ever. Unsurprisingly, the Russian cyborg heaps praise on Randy Couture — the man who Lesnar defeated at UFC 91 — for his performance against the former WWE superstar during the interview. The two have quite a bit of history together. So too do White and Millen. It’s epic. Google it.
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They keep stating the obvious why i dont know, but the ufc will never cross promote again unless another org manages to become huge.
Affliction will fold soon enough. Dream is on the rocks and i don’t think Sengoku can shell out any more serious cash after signing Ishi. Dana just needs to wait.
In typical Fedor and/or Managers fashion, to call out, or say Fedor will fight a rookie! Remember Fedor also said he would fight Kimbo! What a joke! If Brock keeps developing his JJ skills, then we’ll see! Thats all thats needed against Fedor. No need to stand with Fedor, just take him down. GnP his @ss, and avoid submissions!
Brock/Randy (Randy, a legend enough said)
Brock/Herring (Herring, a very experienced REAL HW)
Brock/Mir (Mir a former champ & JJ expert)
Fedor/Tim (Tim, was a good win, I’ll give credit)
Fedor/Choi (Choi, a laughable opponent)
Fedor/Lindland (Lindland, a MW, and a weak one at that)
Now whats wrong with that picture in opponents? And anybody who thinks Anderson Silva is not the P4P is just hanging off of Fedors %#*@^!!!!!!!
JV you forgot to mention that Fedor also beat Nog 2x……fights weren’t even close. IMO Nog would destroy Lesnar. Anderson is p4p the best out there hands down but you can’t mention Lesnar and Fedor in the same sentence right now, maybe in 2 yrs.
TO think that lesnar has a shot against Fedor is just Silly!
who cares anyway? fedor will never fight in the ufc…WHY WOULD HE. He has 3 or 4 opponents waitiong for him outside of the UFC that are all more interesting than any opponent that the UFC could offer Fedor.
Think about it, outside of the UFC Fedor can fight:
Arlovski
Werdum
Barnett
BigFoot
what can the UFC offer him? a 2-1 Lesnar? Give me a break!
JV, you are playing up Lesnar’s wins and downplaying Fedors. Fedor has also beaten Herring, but with a TKO instead of laying on him. He has also beaten Cro Cop, Sylvia, and Nog twice. The only decent name on that list, Mir, Lesnar lost to. Once Fedor beasts Arlovski, you will probably downplay this win too.
I agree Robert! But, I’m talking about the level of competiton in their last 3 fights. Theres something wrong with that picture, if people are going to claim Fedor is the best!
JV, BJJ takes years to get good at. I hardly think in a few months or ever 2 years Brock is going to be a wiz at it enough to trump Fedor. Once someone figures out how to dismantle this huge beast everyone else will follow.
Last three fights are what they are JV…….not in the fighters hands…..remember Lesnar was actually scheduled to fight Coleman, intill he got hurt and then got feed Herring. Last 3 fights is a non issue, as Randy said it best “Fedor would tear Brock up”
Funny how ppl keep bringing up that “Fedor has 2-4 interesting match’s outside the ufc, he doesn’t need to go to the ufc.” Ok, so after those fights then I guess he retires? maybe done by early 2010 late 2009?? Give me a break..
I don’t get how Lesnar is legit and HMC isn’t. Pretty similar fighters
Genetic freaks? Yes, both of them. One is 7 foot 2 and 370 pounds. The other is 280, and pure muscle.
Green at mma, yet with very solid credentials in another art? Yes. One with a 2000 NCAA hw championship. The other a solid K1 kickboxer with a win over Semmy Schilt in 2006. The same Schilt who has won the K1 Grand Prix 3 times in a row. The only person in K1 history to do so, btw.
The only difference is one fought in the ufc, and the other didn’t.
Fedor would be a considerable favorite, but this is still a fight that I would want to see. Will it happen? No time soon.
Regardless, this tool and most everyone else that doubts Brock thought that Randy would beat him with ease, most likely in the first round. SO, lets just wait and see. Brock just needs experience and more training time.
O Dam He got caught: What match ups are there for Fedor ion the UFC? UFC heavyweight division is anemic!~
Who could Fedor fight in the UFC:
Nog? Been there, DESTROYED that!
Lesnar? Too Green!
Randy? Shriveled, old, would get RETIRED
Gonzaga? No tHanks
Hearing? Been there DESTROYED that!
Vallasquez? Still fighting c level fighters
Carwin? stioll fighting C level fighters
Kongo? would get seriously hurt!
I much rather see Fedor fight top Heavyweights like Werdum, Arlovski, Barnett, Bigfoot!
Of course trhats just my humble opinion! lol
yohnstoppable: I would like to take the time to compliment you on your above post. Its very accurate and its a point that no one has made yet!
Fedor gets way too much hate. LIke you said, whats the difference between Brock and HMC? Not much. Both Freakshows, neither are well rounded. Both are stellar in 1 discipline.
Randy gets praised for fighting Lesnar but Fedor gets ripped for fighting hong Man Choi? I dont get it. Like you said, HMC is a legit K-1 striker.
I will tell you one thing….Randy would have such an easy tiime against Hong Man choi. Choi would present more than a few problems for Randy. But its just a double standard and I am sick of it. Randy gets his NOb Slobbed by all of America, but Fedor gets Hated on! I dont get it! Funny part is, that if Fedopr were to sign an exclusive contract (6 fights) with the UFC….you would all start hanging from his nuts (like I do!)
Great post YOHNSTOPPABLE
Yeah true. I like Lesnar but I really don’t see how at this point in his career he could beat Fedor. Some will say L’n'P. Even in 3 rounds there is no way he won’t get subbed if he tries that. Look what happened to HMC. If Brock went to G’n'P Fedor would be like BAM armbar, game over. If it stays standing Lesnar would get maimed, his standup still looks very awkward.
Randy vs. Brock was interesting but c’mon, the real heavyweight war is Fedor vs. Arlovski.
john: my question was, whats next then? Why NOT sign with the UFC?? After those 4 fights whats he supposed to do. hang up the gloves?? Thats ridiculous, there isn’t a future outside the UFC for someone that talented, and to say that top UFC HW fighters are just a waste of time and have no business fighting Fedor is ludicrous. Other than your “4 top picks” and I don’t personally view Bigfoot as a step up from UFC comp, who else is out there?? I would actually like to see Fedor vs Couture,Kongo, Gonzaga, Carwin in late 09 or 2010, and Vallasquez and Lesnar as well in the future. MUCH MUCH better match ups and more deserving than HMC, MW Lindland, Zuluzinho (who?) and some of the other cans he’s faced. No way those fighters were even worth his time to step in the ring with, and ppl are complaining about him stepping in with top competition in the UFC HW division? I don’t get that at all..
O dam: Problem with your scenario is that I really dont see Fedor fighting all that much longer. I think he will hang it up soon.
I dont really like the level of comp he has faced recently, but I understand it! Fedor transends Cultures. He is beloved by so many different cultures and he tries to satisy all his fans. When he fought HMC and Zuluzino, those fights were to appeal to his Japanese fans who love freakshows…then he came to America and DESTROYED long time UFC HW champion Tim Sylvia (to appeal to the USA fan base).
YOu cant rip Hong Man Chopi, but then Respect Lesnar! thats a double standard and BTW, HMC would not be an easy fight for your beloved Couture!
He wasn’t an easy fight for Fedor either, the guy was pretty much winning the fight until he got subbed. It didn’t take long, but then again, HMC is completely lacking in ground skills. Couture probably wouldn’t finish because he doesn’t have that submission pedigree, but he’d GnP his way to a UD. I think the big difference there is Fedor went for the hip throw and ended up on his back whereas couture would body lock, take his time and go for some type of sweep to end up on top.
And I think the big diff between Lesnar and HMC, is that HMC is not going to be a top 10 HW, where as in a couple years Brock has the potential to be a dominating champ. There’s no questioning the gap in their potential and in their athleticism, Brock is way ahead in those departments.
As far as Fedor hanging up the gloves, that would be unfortunate considering he’s only 32 years old. That means he’s retiring at 34, in mma lately, that seems a bit too early.
Everybody keeps talking about Arlovski and Fedor being a great fight. I dont know. Arlovski is going to get destroyed. I know you cant compare fights of common opponents, but Tim Sylvia beat Arlovski 2 out 3 times, while Fedor destroyed him in 35-40 seconds. Also, at Arlovski’s last fight with Big Country, Big Country had side control and the ref made them stand up. Doesnt make sense. Point being that AA wasnt very good, eventhough he won, against Big Country.
TC: Everyone who fights Fedor will get DESTROYED but does that mean he shouldnt fight? I would rather see him DESTROY top fighters like Arlovski then guys like zulzhino any day! Watching him make really tough guys like Tim Sylvia crumble like lil bitches is amazing to watch and its a true testament to his utter DOMINANCE of all the rest of the fighters in the world!
TC: MMA Math just doesn’t work man…
You dont know what you talking about. Afflicktion got many more heawyweights than UFC never could dream about. Dana White is an asole and many of the best know it. Why do think Randy would leave?
Then come to the UFC and find out…
Prob right but man would love to see it
Yeah, I’d like to see it in a couple of years after Brock has a chance to get some fights under his belt and get into a Greg Jackson-esque training camp. Get his nipple tweak on and then I think Brock would handle the russian.
All thats needed for Brock, is submission defense. Theres no need to stand with Fedor when you can put him on his back! And Brock would just have to avoid Fedors submissions, while he GnP’s his @ss! And if it stays standing then theres still a 50/50 chance. Its who will catch the other first?
brocks gnp is horrible and fedor’s submissions are virtually impossible to avoid.
How are Fedor’s subs nearly impossible to avoid? Fedor has great subs, but it can be nullified by superior positioning (think Sherk-Franca, GSP-BJ, GSP-Serra II).
dont forget elbows are allowed in the ufc, the way fedor subs alot of guys would leave him open to elbows. think fedor/hunt. at one point in their fight, hunt actually rested his elbow on fedor’s head. i know that elbows were not allowed in pride and fedor would adjust to them, maybee? cro-cop couldnt adjust to elbows so well.
Didnt exactly write that all correctly but what ever you get the point Brock is still a rookie and will get better in time, Anderson is definitely not the P4P #1 unless you consider the bigger man beating down on the smaller man P4P best. This is all obvious shit to people that use that thing called common sense.
He’s not beating down smaller men, they pull weight just the same as he does. You could dis fedor for beating slower less skilled opponents. I know he beat nog twice four years ago and I am a big fan, but to say silva only beats smaller guys is ignorant. Silva knocked james irvin out at 205 and james irvin could probably beat Tim sylvia.
I AGREE 100%
Do you think he would make it five minutes with john sucking his balls? Id love to hear your take on that! lol.
Lesnar would fold that over-hyped commie up like a cheap lawn-chair.
keep dreaming
It would probably go down a lot like the Fedor-Sylvia fight. A few spot on, powerful punches from Fedor and either Lesnar get’s knocked down or he’d shoot for the takedown and it would make it to the ground where Lesnar would be submitted in about 5 seconds. That’s probably exactly how this fight would go. Only way Lesnar would make it out of the 1st is by pulling a Kalib Starnes.
I love that Kalib Stearnes couldn’t read one MMA blog in all of the world right now that doesnt have at least one thread with his name in it. “I wouldn’t wanna get Munsoned all the way out here” Lets keep it up… I hate Kalib Stearnes
Mania Dont know if you saw this but I was just going to check my Email, at yahoo.com they have 2 stories about the ufc 1 is about Brock the other is the story that made me realize there are some stupid fing people out there. Its talking about how Anderson is training with Freddie Roach, And goes on to say that Anderson wants to Fight Jones jr, Then Sayas it would be a lose - lose situation cause if jones beat him mma would be a laughing stock again. Then it goes on to say KIMBO is wanting to try boxing as well. Then to go on from there it states that they should just match these 2 BOXING WANT TO BE’S up Against each other . Kind of making it sound like again mma is not the supioerer sport and that kimbo is just as good at mma or boxing as silva is just thought you should check it out again its at yahoo.com
Yahoo sports can suck it, from what ive read on there. Seems they do very little research. IMO, i havent really spent much time there..
Boxing is not MMA. Why is it that a lot of people think that Anderson Silva losing to a boxing legend like Jones would hurt MMA. It is a boxing match not an MMA match, two completly different sports. We only have to look at some of the golden gloves boxers that we have in the UFC or some the boxers that try to make it in K1, to see who the superior fighters. The ones in K1 more often than not get taken out by leg kicks alone and somtimes do not even make it to the last round, and we have seen that the talented Golden Gloves strikers that we have had in the UFC would get no where if they relied on their boxing skills alone. Jones beating Silva at boxing has nothing whatsoever to do with MMA because we have seen that a fighter that just had boxing skills would get no where in either MMA or K1.
I agree. If Anderson instead wanted to do a BJJ tourney and lost, would that look bad on MMA? No.
exactly, so why should loosing a sambo match take away form what Fedor has accoplished in mma
It doesn’t.
They’re just calling attention to what most fans know.
Anderson Silva is an awesome fighter but not better than Fedor.
I think Fedor can fight at 205 lbs if he wanted to. And of course we all know Silva fights at 205 on occasion. It would be a slaughter if the two fought at LHW.
How exactly would Fedor slaughter Anderson Silva if they fought at 205? I personally consider Fedor to be the best P4P fighter in the world based on his overall body of work. However, in the last few years I think Anderson Silva has been a more impressive fighter based on who he’s fought and how he’s performed. But them fighting each other at 205 is the most entertaining matchup I can think of in mma. On their feet I think Anderson has an advantage in striking, and he’s also very dangerous on the ground. If Fedor tried to rush in on Anderson the way he did against Sylvia he would be opening himself up to the most accurate striker in mma. I think Fedor could take Anderson down if he could get inside, but that’s a lot easier said than done. But if he did get him to the ground, with his combination of submissions and GnP, he could give Anderson trouble.
if fedor could fight at 205, why didnt he while in pride? think of all the great match-ups, wandi, rua, rampage, (ARONA at 205). much better match-ups than zulu, coleman or randleman(who was really a lhw). fedor’s toughest fights came against guys who could easily be or where lhw’s like cro-cop-220lbs, arona, even fujita was/is a small hw and he rocked fedor. fedor might have demolished these guys as well, but dont say he could have if he wanted to b/c he didnt have too. he could fight lhw’s and still reamin a hw while in japan, there was’nt much regulation.
cause he likes to be fat
BW: Keep in mind that while in Pride fighters like Rampage and wand, didnt want any parts of a fight with Fedor. Rampage was asked about fighting fedor while he was commentating during Fedor/Randleman (I believe) and Page said he would NEVER fight Fedor…..I heard Wand react the same way when asked in another interview.
THere are weight classes for a reason, believe it or not, and if Heavyweights want NO parts of the Russian what makes you think LHW want any?
its the ice cream
That would surprise me to hear Wanderlei back down from anyone, otherwise why would he fight in open-weight tournaments? And I don’t know that all LHW fighters would want to fight him, but I think a fight with Anderson Silva would be amazing.
“…UFC officials will try and position Lesnar as the No. 1 heavyweight in the world, much like they have tried to use a marketing ploy to brand Anderson Silva as the number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world.”
LOVE IT!!! truer words have rarely been spoken
true. lesnar would not make it out of the first round against fedor. but neither would couture. in fact, lesnar won’t even beat nog. nog will submit lesnar either rd 1 or rd 2 (yes, nog will defeat mir with relative ease).
I think Lesnar’s got a decent chance against Nog.
You are definately dreaming there mate! Nog will take the title as soon as he gets rid of Mir. Nog is the toughest (not the best, toughest) heavyweight in the world. I can not get over the beatings he takes and then finds ways to win.
He will out box and/or submit Brock when they fight.
I would love to see Brock vs Gonzaga - awesome match up. Napoa takes it (and I actually think he will be the next long reigning UFC champ once he gets his shot, nerves got him last time, not to mention is was in ore of Randy)
He’s definitely a tough s.o.b. The Nog-Barnett fights are some of the most amazing punishment sessions ever (and amazing fights). I wouldn’t put money on Lesnar, don’t get me wrong, but I think Nog’s habit of taking so much punishment could play into Lesnar’s hands. Let’s be real, Lesnar’s got more power than anyone Nog’s faced. If he let’s Lesnar pound on his face for a bit he might not have a chance to win.
I don’t think Nog’s usual game plan will work against Lesnar: Take punishment until the guy tires & then pull a submission (it worked against Timmay - but Brock is a totally different beast).
It’s called “Brocktagon” for a reason
Minotauro will show you the good zhoo zheetsoo
LOL
im not a fan of brocks at all, but the more he trains the harder he’s gonna be to beat. he learned his lesson against mir, and nog isn’t submit him because brock will just stand up and ko him. as dumb as lesnar looks, he wont get subbed again. the guys a beast. fedor is about the only one thats gonna give him a beating. and i’m not a fan, i just call it how i see it…
all brocks gotta do is get better at bjj defense, wich is easier to do than actually trying to learn bjj submissions.
Lesnar’s got a decent chance against anyone in the cage and he’ll only get better with time and training
Lesnar = Beast
its really hard at this stage to start drawing conclusions on brock, as we really know very little about his fighting,strengths and weaknesses other than the obvious ones!! which are his size, strength and athleticism. weaknesses would be his bjj, however we dont know how he has progressed with this, not that im saying for one min it will be anywhere near nogs, but he may have learned quickly we just dont know. we also dont know how he takes a good shot, as randy has never been know for punching power, also how big his tank is??
Im not being negative or positive, im being realistic, we dont know enough!!
that pic is crazy, can you imagine having to fight in any way shape or form against that guy
Hes an army unto himself
he would be like a real life Rambo, CRAZY
i bet if you put bambi in front of fedor he wouldnt pull the trigger.. he seems kinda soft in that sense
I’ve met plenty of Russians from Fedor’s generation. They fall into two camps in terms of personality. Either they’re totally anti-social sociopathic assholes or they’re silly, giddy teddy bears. Fedor most certainly falls into the latter camp.
But when you put people in front of him, he destroys! Hes not a hunter yo, hes a fighter. Why kill deer when you can annihilate good fighters..
i think lesnar wud be impossible to armbar, and if fedors fights have shown anything, its that even a semi good wrestler can take him down at will.
fedor needs to train with alexander karelin more if he wants to walk away with a decisive victory over brock.
yeah people give fedor way to much credit for fighting “bigger” guys when sylvia was FAT,SLOW,out of shape,and WEAK all things brock is NOT..
and hell a rea naked choke around that neck? fedor has no chance at that, armbar brock? he can probably curl 250lbs in his 1 hand.. and knocking him out? he’d need a mack truck.. brock wouldnt lose in no first round he might not win but he’d make it a war
Come on, are we talking about super man? No, Size has nothing to do with a fighter’s chin. Brock’s shown he can take a hit, but he can get knocked out, especially at the hands of Fedor’s punches, rest assured.
Also, cliche “too strong to get arm barred” is all well and good for the average ground fighter, but Fedor’s arm bar’s are lighting fast and he commits in incredible fashion. He could certainly arm bar Lesnar.
if you have actually done bjj, you would know that guillotines work on thick necked jar heads real easy actually.
But look how he ends the fight when wretlers take him down. Randelman Submission armbar, Coleman 2 times submission by armbar, Matt Linland submission armbar(this is one of Fedor’s-I personally feel-crappy victories. Linland split him like Gallager split watermelons, FEdor held on to the top rope on the take down 2 times for dear life, the referee did not warn or stop him from holding, and on the 3rd try he end up ontop on Linland to Submit him). Of his 28 wins 15 are by submission-clearly not the place anyone wants to take him unless you are a BJJ expert being how Big Nog, Ricardo ARona, and REnato Sobral are the only one to take him to decisions. Brocks submission defense is no where near the level of either 3 of them. I think Fedor leaves the fight with a W and a Limb!
cro-cop took him the distance and gave him his toughest fight in pride. how’s cro-cops bjj and gnp? not so good i think.
…IF anyone can do it, Fedor can
Easy to say crap like this when you know they’re not going to fight any time in the near future.
Brock would club Fedor like a caveman’s bride…in 2 or 3 years. Just be patient and we’ll see.
In his last interview Fedor said he’s planning to fight 2 more years and then retire.
Jerry Millen is a douche bag.
is he related to Matt Millen?
yes his is a giant douche bag. I can’t believe anything he says still gets reported as news. then again, I can’t believe he still has a job in MMA.
well fedor before you retire i would like to see you and brock fight imagine brock pulling off a randleman like slam hed prolly kill fedor
If Bob Sapp can get stuck and tap to an arm bar…..Then no man alive is to big and strong for an arm bar.
It’s not about strength. It’s about top control. Bob Sapp has almost no sense of positioning and control. Brock has good top position and knows how to control hands.
come on! Fedor would beat Lesnar if they fought right now. maybe not in a year to two, but Fedor would win if they fought today. Also, if Anderson fought Fedor at 205 in the cage, i think Silva would win and it would be hyped as the best fight of all time, which it deservably should be.
yes, because fedor would keep it standing. rofl.
Fedor = #1
UFC HW division = 2nd class
introvert = #1 ass that’s 2nd class
Im glad he said Fedor would beat Brock at this stage because I feel with more training and experience Brock will be a real force. I would love to see this match but maybe in a couple years time. At 45 years of age a dream match between Randy and Fedor is just that…a dream. So they need to hype a Lesnar/Fedor fight. Oh ya and dont compare Bob Sapp to Lesnar, totally different athletes.
he is right Fedor is the best P4P fighter and would beat lesnar easily.
I wouldnt say easy. No matter how inexperienced Brock is he would still maul Fedor until eventually submitted.
I disagree
Who know’s how long that juiced up growth head could last anyway. He has given his body a lot of abuse, internally and externally. In a few years I can see lesnar with many injuries. Even if he doesn’t, I still can’t see him catching up to Fedor’s skill set.
Lesnar has passed every drug test given to him. The guy is not juicing.
what i dont understand is for all the ppl who say fedor hasnt fight top competition….r u telling me couture or liddell has nevernt fought cans…. everyone who hasnt been fighting that long has fought can!!!!!!!!!!
bubbles! they fight like sissies. My grandmother could push them over.
sometimes i think JV is Dana White, and agein JV GO FUUSELF
I couldn’t believe that when I heard that. Anderson Silva is one of the best fighters in the world. Fedor is good, but Silva is one of the greatest.
Most of you are forgetting that Fedor’s fight against Tim Sylvia and upcoming fight on January 24th again Arlovski are merely two fights that could be considered even remotely challenging for him in recent memory - but let’s not forget that Fedor made his name as the greatest MMA fighter ever in RINGS and Pride. Do we need to go over his resume? Some of you may be too young and green in the sport of MMA to even remember some of these fights. A simple search on Wikipedia would suit you well:
Ricardo Arona: Abu Dhabi World BJJ champion, unanimous decision
Kerry Schall: champion collegiate American wrestler, armbar
Chris Haseman: champion collegiate American wrestler, TKO (brutal)
Semmy Schilt: K1 Kickboxing legend, decision
Heath Herring: legit HW, doctor stoppage lol
Nogueira: one of the greatest submission HW of all time, twice
Gary Goodridge: at the time, feared striker, TKO
Mark Coleman: of Hammer House fame, armbar twice
Kevin Randleman: Hammer House, NCAA Div. I champion wrestler, kimura
the list goes on…some of you may have followed Fedor well before his rise to fame, for those, I hope you enjoy what may be a once in a generation fighter, lets hope Fedor hangs around long enough to embarass whatever garbage Dana White and UFC can manage to throw at him…Fedor would embarass Brock now and in two years, hands down, no question, just real talk. Is Brock Lesnar an intimidating foe? of course…but to say that Fedor can’t fight wrestlers or is ‘easily taken down’ (as if fighting off his back is a bad thing for a JIUJITSU fighter) would just be naive, there has never been a heavyweight who strikes as accurately, as hard, and as effortlessly as Fedor, his transition game is impeccable (for those of you faggots that are sitting at home talking shit, there is no fighter out there except maybe A. Silva that goes from strikes to submisison back strikes to takedowns better than Fedor)..nuff said, it would be a treat to watch him fight in the UFC