its sambo who cares? thats like saying anderson silva lost a jiu jitsu match

Sambo is MMA with different scoring and head gear! What happened to the supposed “god” “the last emperor” LMAO! Now Arlovski can see that he is not a machine. Jan. 24 Arlovski will finish the job!

The guy lost one match and some of you f’in tools talk he should never compete again.Hey, fightclub, Randy couldn’t beat him if he had a bat in each hand. C-war, one lost match does not mean he’s going downhill. And JV, I’ll bet my name with you that Fedor destroys AA. I don’t mean beat him. I mean whip him. What exactly do you guys think is going to happen to the next guy who faces him? I can’t wait to see.

Cause Im not a Fedor (nuthugger) means Im a tool? C-mon now Chef. Its different now that he had to fight for the gold right? I just pointed out the “god” and “emperor” thing! Your “God” lost to his national sport! LMFAO!

I didnt mean he is going downhill, I mean once you reach the number one spot, the only place left to go is the number 2 spot. I never said he wasnt gonna go back to the number one spot, :p.

He won the gold in his national sport 7, count ‘em 7, years in a row, then got a bronze. That’s not too f’in shabby. Sorry if I responded a little harshly, but all I’m seeing is blind hate on this thread from people who had to wait almost 10 years to see him lose ONCE and now they’re all over it like flies on sh*T. I’ll say this again. He is going to murder AA.

Chef I gotta agree and the fact that he loses by points to the guy who wins the thing, its not like he lost to some can. I just don’t see why everyone is on his nuts after this loss. I see him beating AA even tho I am really rooting hard for Arlovski to pull off the win.

Chef, he didnt even fight anybody to win the last gold medal remember? He may very well “murder” AA? But how long has it been since he face (REAL HW) competition back to back?

There’s no “blind hate” of Fedor. Fans get frustrated with Fedor because he has only fought one top ten heavyweight since 2005. It’s a waste of talent. No one can deny that Fedor is one of the most skilled fighters in the world, but it’s hard to stay excited about a fighter when he only fights once a year.

There you go RealDrew! Thats not that hard to understand is it?

well chef, here’s the thing, he’s out filming movies (ala Randy) and comes in unprepared! These guys are fucking fighters, if after their careers are over, they parlay it into something else, good for them! It’s like you owning a restaurant, and deciding to take up poker full time. The restaurant is your bread and butter, but if the food starts to suck in your absence, you don’t have you money maker anymore! This goes for cung le too. These guys fight cans (fedor has fought 1 top 10 in 3 years, Le hasn’t) and then don’t understand the hate! AA is gonna lose (although I’m pulling for him, Barnett will duck Fedor…again, so what’s out there for him? Drop to LHW where arguably the best competition is at, or start fighting more than once a year, those 2 things will earn BACK my respect!

Ok kids, here goes…..somethin’. First off, I’m not one of those morons whose football team loses and I walk around all week like someone has p*ssed in my cornflakes. Normally. So let me take this opportunity to laugh at myself and apologize for the name calling. Not cool on my part. When I saw Fedor lost, I wasn’t mad, more like “really? Holy ****! WTF?” And then proceeded to get mad like a child. lol. Had to actually go to the gym and blow off steam. I can understand why some people don’t like him. We all don’t like some fighters. That’s part of the fun of watching the sport. I’ve responded to so many Fedor posts that I let an arguement some of you didn’t even bring up (Fedor not signing with UFC) to influence my posts. And by the way, I WILL argue all day long that it would be bad business for him to sign there. but anyways, my bad to you guys.

i find it ironic fedor’s fans are now just saying “it’s just a sambo match” when every time something is brought up why he wont sign with the ufc is he cant compete in sambo. if sambo is SO important to him, one would think he would be spending more time training for it and less time making b-level straight to dvd movies. i though he didnt care about money? iv’e been an mma fan since it started and was a big boxing fan before that and the one thing that i know is a sure thing in combat sports is that NO MAN IS UNBEATABLE. if fedor keeps puting his a$$ on the line against top opponents on a more regular basis, he will lose eventually. him fighting top opponents regularly will be about as likely as him getting beat in a sambo match…….wait…oh .

Chef! Great post man, It sucks having to arguie with Haters, but its the reality about being on this site. Fedor’s job is MMA and filming movies. He competes in Sambo to give back to his country. Keep in mind he was competing with a broken hand that is not yet healed. But why make excuses? Who really cares? Just the haters because they never have any real reason to bash Fedor.

If MMA ended today, Fedor would go down as the best fighter that the sport has ever seen, and thats a FACT!!!!! How many other fighters can never have fought in the UFC and still be considered the best fighter in the world? NOne!!!!!

Kevin: for you to say that Fedoir has to still earn your respect is just crap. This may be one of the dumbest, holyier than thou, comments that you have ever made! Regardless of wehat you think of the man. He is the best fighter on the planet. No matter who you match him up against, he will be the favorite. He has fans in countries that donbt even follow mma. For example: Fedor has MILLIONS of fans in Japan, Korea, China, All of Europe! Even without the American marklet, he is the most beloved fighter in the world. Americans need to realize that he is a Global figure. R u guys that Naive to believe that Fans in China know who Chuck Liddell is? Get a clue.

When Fedor fights, the Russian president and the Italian president Berlusconi attend his fights live! Thats HUGE!!!! Sorry but I dont see Barak Obama showing up to a Anderson Silva fight!

FEDOR is God, until someone beats him in mma, and once he looses he will still be GOD, because no other top fioghters only have 1 loss.

You guys can Hate on as long as you want. After all if people hated on Jordan, then Haters are going to hate on Fedor.

It baffles me as to how fans of this sport can not appreciate such an amazing fighter, and more importantly an AMAZING human Being!

great comment B.W. The same guys who say his demands aren’t ridiculous and he need sambo are the same guys saying today “no big deal.” I love to watch Fedor, but I don’t have his cock in my mouth, sorry! I give honest unbiased opinions, I don’t care if it’s GSP or Fedor or BJ, whether I like em or not, I’ll point out their flaws and give compliments when necessary. He lost in his most important competition, and why? Not because he’s not the best, but because he’s become complacent! Fighting middle weights and cans and mauling sylvia has made him think he can’t lose! Hopefully this sparks a fire in him and he comes out guns blazing, my prediction, he beats AA, and we wait another year to see him fight!

B.W.!!! As always your the man! I completely agree!

john, the presidents show up because that’s all they have. I see presidents at REGULAR SEASON NFL GAMES, not just the superbowl. I’m not naive to Fedors popularity, but you are a definite candidate for fedors fan club president! He has 1 meaningful fight in 3 years, period!

After he beats Barnett and Arlovski…who the hell is their left to beat? He has beaten everyone already! He can afford to only fight once a year!

Presidents always come to NCCA tournament B-ball games, or NFL games, but when the hell have you seen someone that important at a UFC fight? TRY NEVER and we are still at least a decade away frtom seeing that happen!

If mma ended today, who would go down as the best fighter of all time? We will see how much of a hater you are! I get on you about this Kevin, because I kNOW that you have much knowledge about the sport. I dare you to answer by saying anyone other then Fedor, and you will have lost all credability!

Good post kevin and I completely agree with both of your predictions.

John, do you even read other people’s posts before calling someone a hater? I think most of the posts on this thread have been pretty reasonable. We’ve all expressed our opinions. Your entitled to be all over Fedor’s nuts and call him your god. I’m entitled to think he’s done nothing to legitimize himself as the best p4p fighter since 2005.

LOL. Guys I haven’t seen such polarization by a fighter (not hate wise mind you) since…well….Bisping!!!!

Sambo? Who’s this “Sambo” person? Wasnt he in Roots?

Real DRew: The man lost a Sambo fight. Not an mma fight…yet you guys are still grasping at straws looking for anyway possible to hate on the man. Seems kind of petty to me!

well when he is supposedly the best at sambo as well. and he gets beat u have to bag on him alittle bit.

lol

I hear you tough! Theres no denying his skills! Now that hes following his Tim fight with AA, he should start to get less hate? And if he beats AA, then theres no reason why he shouldnt face Barnett next!

Barnett is the ONLY person that would give him an interesting match up right now IMO.

chef, Barnett is ducking Fedor, so it probably won’t happen.

LOL! yohnstoppable, you think Lindland (a weak 185er) is tougher than Mir (a former HW champ)? Lindland who has never won a championship in his career in MMA! Did you not read the post right above yours?

lindland is a better fighter than mir no dout.

The difference being that Mir actually BELONGS in the HW division where as Lindland is really a 185er… U can’t sit here and get props for beating on a MW when your the #1 ranked HW in the world.

Lindland is no where near as good as Mir,that has to go down as one of the dumbest comments ever,Lindland are you guys serious

mir? are you serious he sucks, even when he was champ he sucked he is not a ranked fighter and never will be, lindland is and has been a highly ranked middle wieght.

I already posted in another article about how overrated and undeserving Mir has been over his entire career. He has only fought 1 ranked heavyweight his entire career, that being Tim Sylvia.

Avoided competition like Ricco, Barnett, Couture, Smith, Rizzo, and Randleman for his first title shot. Got a title shot against someone with 0 ground game after wins over Tank Abbott and Wes Sims. 2 guys who shortly after were released from the ufc due to being terrible. Beats a fighter with 1 pro fight (Lesnar) and a kickboxer with 0 ground game (Hardonk) and gets another title shot.

No other fighter in the history of the ufc has earned not 1, but 2 title shots without ever having set foot in the cage with a top 10 opponent. Saying Mir is a tougher test at heavyweight than Lindland is idiotic. The only thing I see is “zomg, ufc hw champ!” Keep spouting off ufc advertisements, and keep showing you know nothing about either fighter.

Mir isn’t even a has been, he is a never was. A 1 dimensional fighter with 0 gas tank, and 0 heart. A guy who gets destroyed by Ian Freeman, Pe De Pano, and Brandon Vera, A guy who has the most pampered, gifted title shots in mma history. A guy who is going to get completely embarressed by Nog.

Go watch his fights with Ian Freeman, Brandon Vera, and Pe De Pano. 3 of the worst ass kickings in ufc history. And 3 fights against unranked fighters who are either no longer in the ufc or had to abandon the weight class. Then watch Lindland vs Rampage and Lindland vs Fedor. Then tell me Lindland, who has fought better heavyweight competition even as a middleweight, isn’t as good. What a joke of a bunch of uneducated tuf fan comments

great post yohnstoppable, it real isn’t even close but some people have no idea.

wrong because he got thrown out for wearing a t-shirt and he was calling out the champ non stop, lindland is a better fighter than mir ever was or ever will be.

Agreed with Roy. Lindland was kicked out of the ufc on a technicality (shirt with unauthorized sponsor), because he was seen as boring at that stage in his career. Kind of like Koscheck right after tuf, except with far more wrestling talent (Lindland is an Olympic silver medalist after all).

People hating on Lindland and praising Mir are simply uneducated tuf era fans who have no clue what they are talking about.

When did I say Nog doesn’t have a better resume of wins? Did you reply to the wrong comment, or are you special?

You guys didnt see it? It was on the “Sports no one cares about channel”.

lol

Taking the Hong Man Choi fight bothered me too for sure. The bodog fight with shitland was just as bad! Come on though man, Fedor was destroying top HW’s for years. What im saying i guess JV is that i love the OLD Fedor, ill agree the new one needs to step it up.

He has no business calling out any UFC fighter period when his manager/himself aren’t even open to signing with the UFC. The biggest mma org in the world wants to sign Fedor and he says no. Explain that, how is this guy not just in it for the $$$$$??? IMO that was just plain stupid, even if they aren’t paying him millions per fight, he still gets the exposure, then comes the endorsements and the sponsors etc… I think Fedor is an awesome fighter, undoubtedly one of the best, but he needs to grow a pair, go slap his manager upside the head and sign a UFC contract already.

Fedor was going to make more money than any other fighter in the UFC but he chose to let his agents steer him from promotion after promotion. A warrior doesn’t shrink from the biggest challenge and that’s what he did.

Timmy obviously doesn’t realize more ranked heavyweights are not in the ufc than are in it. The highest ranked heavyweight in the ufc was already crushed by Fedor twice. What does Fedor have to prove?

Affliction has Sylvia, Arlovski, Alex E, and Barnett. And there are other potential fighters like Sergie out there as well. That’s much better competition than the ufc has to offer him. Saying the cream of the crop is in the ufc heavyweight division is just dumb

Cause Pride did not test for performing enhancing drugs like the UFC does, and judging from Rua’s last fight, he was on something when he was in Pride.

UFC is where he needs to be, like you said all the up and coming HW talent is in the UFC, give it another 2 years or so and the UFC HW division will have all the top HW talent (personally I’m betting on affliction and Dream not being around in 2 years with strikeforce as the only other viable option). And seriously, how many fights outside of the UFC does Fedor have besides AA and Barnett, unless he’s planning on retiring sometime soon thats a pretty short list of top contenders. Personally I’m dying to see Fedor vs Kongo, Gonzaga, Lesnar, Couture, ANY of those match ups would be awesome IMO, and unfortunatley it doesn’t look like its gonna happen.

The answer has to be $$$$, as much crap as Randy gets about being all about the cash flow i’m surprised Fedor doesn’t take any heat for that at all. Why is he willing to sign with a lesser established org, just because their offering him the bigger paycheck. I’m sure Dana wasn’t throwing peanuts at this guy, he was probably being offered a pretty damn good pay day. If he really wants to cement his legacy as the best p4p fighter on the planet he’ll go to the UFC, thats the biggest stage to showcase his talent.

Bisping would be the champion in any other organization and in th UFC he’s a mid-range contender. Cro Cop came in as one of Pride’s best and he was run right out of the UFC. I’m not certain Fedor wasn’t on performing enhancing drugs cause most the guys in Pride were, and yeah the UFC roster is deeper and more diverse than Pride ever was. soko wanted to test himself, and he found out he wsn’t as good as the ufc hype but i respect him more because he took less money in exchange for a bigger challenge.

timmy you make about as much sense as timmy from south park.

Timmay?? TIMMAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

all american and jackel need to get off Fedors nut sack and see that Brock is a huge threat in mma now regardless of where he once was (wwe)… Fedor would get mangled by Brock..

Did you seriously just compare Brock to GSP?

I understand where you’re coming from with the weight comparisons, but Fedor is a complete fighter and would eat Brock alive on the ground. Fedor is more dangerous on his back than any other HW in the world. Big Nog is dangerous as well (and he will sub Brock after he subs Mir), but Fedor is too good for a guy like Brock.

I even picked Brock to beat Randy on the weekend, but without that punch to the ear that dropped Randy, Brock would have never finished that fight, or any schooled fighter on the ground.

At least Brock would get a nice highlight reel slam or takedown, before Fedor locks on an armbar (rolling eyes).

You UFC ‘huggers just have to face the fact that the UFC HW division is lacklustre…plain and simple. Why is that so personal for you guys?

your “prediction” was that UFC 91 had a freak show for the main event, that it was a weak card and not worth spending $45.00 on. That Brock would lay n prey Randy to a boring snore fest 5 rd UD (which imo Randy actually out wrestled Brock). Completely wrong on everything, except for the half right prediction on “lesnar will win”. Wow you only had a %50 chance to get that wrong…

You think Couture’s money hungry? How about Fedor not signing a UFC contract because they won’t give him millions per fight and build a stadium in russia. And you talk about “freakshow” fights… your hero there is pretty much guilty of the same crap your dissing Couture for.

I never said Fedor should fight anyone in the UFC! My question to you (which you completely avoided) was: Why would the #1 supposed P4P HW fighter, fight LHW’s MW’s, Cans, and Freakshows? Shouldnt the #1 guy be fighting all top guys in the division?

I didn’t avoid your question. He has fought top guys….they just aren’t top guys anymore, BECAUSE FEDOR BEAT THEM!!!!!!!!!!

Why do people always bitch about Fedor’s oppenents, but ignore me when I as (and I’ll ask again)……who is it that you think Fedor has to beat to prove to you that he’s the #1 fighter in the world?

Anyone who has an answer to this question is free to do so. Not an easy one to answer though, is it?

Its not who he has to fight! Its fighting the top guys consistently! Not a top guy, then a few cans!!! Then another top guy, then a freakshow!!! Then another top guy, then a MW or LHW!!! But never mind, you still dont seem to get it!

Who are these “top guys” you keep referring to?

You are avoiding that question (like all fedor haters do).

Who then?

He needs to beat AA, Barnett, Werdum, and Brock!

Okay, now there’s an answer.

So, if he fights and beats AA and Barnett, will UFC ‘huggers call him #1? Or, will you all say “Brock would beat him”? (2-1 Brock, I might add).

It’s obvious that the guy could submit God and many of you would say “God wasn’t in the UFC, so it doesn’t matter”.

Too funny.

Add to that list, Kongo, Gonzaga, Couture and in a year or 2 Shane Carwin and Cain Valasquez, if he could come to the UFC and dominate the HW division like A. Silva is doing to the MW Division then I think that would pretty much shut everybody up. Don’t get me wrong I don’t hate on Fedor, I think he’s an awesome fighter, but he needs to grow a pair, have his manager step aside a little bit and take the reigns on his own carreer. He needs to fight on the biggest stage in MMA and showcase himself to the largest audience.

Why is it his responsibility to seek out those guys? He has nothing to prove to you or anyone else.

All of this is just UFC fans saying that he needs to cement his legacy by fighting guys in the UFC. He obviously doesn’t give a shit what the UFC fan thinks about his legacy, and isn’t about to sign his life away to Dana White to prove anything to you. Nor should he.

Ok so whats out there for your #1 p4p fighter on the planet. He should fight AA, Barnett and then what?? Retire?? Give me a break, to say that there isn’t one fighter in the UFC that could stylistically not give him problems, or one fighter in the UFC period, that couldn’t study tape of this guy and give him a run for his $$$ is ignorant. There are some awesome match ups for him there, and like it or not until Fedor decides to “tighten up his belt” (like going to the UFC is THAT much of a pay cut) and perform in the biggest mma org in front of the largest audience; he’ll never get the respect and world wide recognition that he deserves.

well put O damn!

introvert you are the man. Also you should have asked JV why he thinks that Fedor vs Hong Man Choi is a freakshow and Randy vs Brock is a fight of the year? For you knowledge UFC fan boys Lesnar ducked HMC year and a half ago when he wasn’t in the UFC

Zheka, that argument works both ways, Introvert labeled Couture vs Lesnar a freakshow only a few days before the event… “Introvert you are the man” comment kinda leads me to believe that your introvert, under a different screen name. That has the potential to be, pretty damn sad. If so, don’t hurt your arm patting yourself on the back there.

O damn…first I never said any of those things that you are saying I said. Is that your argument?…that Introvert said this, and Introvert said that?…when I didn’t?

Second…Fedor does not want to fight for the UFC because the UFC fucks people over when they get to the end of a contract….(i.e. AA, Tito, Randy, soon to be GSP, BJ, etc….) why would he let them do that?

There is something to be said for a guy who says “no”, when asked to sell his soul for $. Isn’t there?

lmao….Um, no he isn’t me under a different screen name.

I would like to add that yes Brock vs Randy was a freakshow….but I chose Brock to win.

And, yes Brock did duck HMC…..go figure.

Are you joking?? Your trying to retract everything you said concerning not “wasting your $45 on this weak card”. I’ll go ahead and backtrack for u so you can check out the thread where you bashed the entire fight card.

INTROVERT. when the ufc was in negotiations with fedor, not ony did they offer him the most money for any fighter that they ever had, they also, at the time, had randy, cro-cop, big nog,arlovski,sylvia,werdum,herring,gonzaga,kongo and mir. ALL OF THESE fighters were under contract to the ufc when fedor scorned them and signed with m1 global and eventually signed to fight choi. there was no way for fedor to know that randy would leave the ufc or that the ufc would let a.a. and sylvia go. the only top guy that they didnt have was barnett and thats a nob-issue since barnett wont fight him. when i brought this up in the past, fedor’s fanatics would always bring up SAMBO, and now its “just a sambo match”(eyes rolling). as far as fedor selling his soul for $, he already did that when he signed wladimir finklstein as his manager.

Here you go, please lie some more about your past commentary regarding the card.

Comment by introvert
2008-11-06 09:44:21
I’m not wasting my money on this shitty “freakshow” card.
The “biggest fight in the history of MMA” - (Joe Rogan)…..is one of the lamest match-ups I’ve ever seen.
25 minutes of Brock laying on top of Randy, and controling position, is what everyone is going to spend their money on.

Comment by introvert
2008-11-06 10:22:03
It’s a freakshow….
80 year old man that hasn’t fought in a long time against someone with 3 fights to his name.
It’s a joke.

Comment by introvert
2008-11-06 16:33:16
The technicalities of the fight are what make it so fucking boring. Randy won’t get off with striking (because his stance will be complete opposite of what it was with Tim……front foot back, defending takedown, type of stance), therefore all of the striking you saw against Tim is not going to happen.
This fight has “snoozer” written all over it.

you can find your comments in the Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture video UFC 91 fight talk (Part 2) thread posted 11/6/2008

Again, completely off based predictions.. Save for “Brock will win”..

There’s actually more UFC 91 bashing from y ou throughout that thread and throughout that week, feel free to read through since you’ve apparently developed amnesia.

What’s your point?

So Brock didn’t lie on him for 5 rounds…is that your point? He won didn’t he? It was a freakshow….1-1 fighter, fighting for the UFC title is a freakshow.

I didn’t pay for the fights…..I watched it online. I stuck to my word.

Comment by introvert
2008-11-17 14:22:00
“O damn…first I never said any of those things that you are saying I said. Is that your argument?…that Introvert said this, and Introvert said that?…when I didn’t?”

First off thats a blatant lie. No clue why you were back peddling in the first place, but the second I quote you from the previous thread you “stick to your word”.

Second, the fight was pretty competitive in stark contrast to your “snoozer” prediction. Third; overall the card was pretty entertaining, great ko’s, great subs and some pretty good fights, well worth the $45.

and lastly, wtf are you talking about in that last comment on the “technicalities” of this fight, and Randy not being able to get any strikes off. I don’t know what cut Brock above the right eye then.. any ideas??

My point? Quit with your UFC hating/bashing, you obviously couldn’t call one aspect of how this fight went down besides “Brock will win” and i’m sorry to say but the %50 odds that you guess right isn’t really that impressive. Maybe in the future you can bash the card AFTER the event so that way at least there’s some basis for your otherwise ignorant pre fight bashing.

Well it looks like I got moderated so I’ll just condense it.

Your a liar, you backpeddled immediatley and then as soon as I quote you directly your suddenly “sticking to your word”.

And maybe instead of bashing a card before you see it, you could at least wait until after the event so that your posts don’t read like ignorant bashing sessions.

WTF are you talking about?

What did I pack peddle on?

Okay, I said it would be a 25 minute snoozefest and Randy wouldn’t get off in stand-up. Well, Randy hit him once, the rest of the fight was pinned up against the cage, then Randy got KTFO…sorry, my bad lol.

I hear Hazzelet had a good fight, and Maia looked impressive…..so that’s good, no?

introvert, heres a cut and paste so you can educate yourself on the Lesnar/Choi fight!
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Choi was scheduled to face former WWE, IWGP, and NCAA national champion amateur wrestler Brock Lesnar at the combined promotion event K-1 Dynamite!! USA, a major pay-per-view event at the massive Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, on June 2, 2007. [5] However, reportedly due to a benign tumor on his pituitary gland, [6] Choi was denied his California fighter’s license on May 23, 2007, putting Dynamite!! USA’s main event in jeopardy only 10 days before its scheduled occurrence. The California State Athletic Commission has yet to officially confirm Choi’s status.[7] Choi was replaced in the fight by fellow Korean fighter Kim Min-soo.

Scroll up and re read on the back peddling.

Other than that yea, at least your giving some of the fighters some credit, just got on my nerves about how this was a “shitty freakshow card not worth spending money on”; when overall it turned out to be a pretty good event. And I just don’t get the hate for Couture, every other fight in the guys carreer is against a top 10 ranked fighter, he may not have an impressive rec, but going 50/50 against the best guys in the world in their divisions isn’t too shabby imo.

” insulted every russian on the planet”. ha! please spare me. the majority of russians probably dont have a clue to who dana even is. dana called his management “crazy russians” as did alot of others they dealt with, monte cox for one. atencio will be in agreement before long. his managers are scumbags who only have THEIR OWN best intrests at heart, and mark my word, fedor will wake up a realize this someday and shitcan these dudes. until then- FREE FEDOR!