Comments on: ‘Big’ John McCarthy to return to referee action at Strikeforce Nov. 21 http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Canucklehead http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991713 Canucklehead Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:44:52 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991713 Thanks b.w., I should have remembered that comments containing links seem disappear into "moderation limbo" for a while, and just posted the info first (not that I'm bitching Mania, you guys like to keep it clean here at MMAMania and I respect that. I mean, if I really need to swear in my comments I can always head over to Cagepotato for some comment anarchy) And thanks john for the info on Ultimate Ultimate, being a bit of a "complete-ist" myself, that kinda bugs me. I'll let you know if I find anything but, that said, if you (the guy who broke Lesnar v. Couture) haven't been able to find it, I don't like my chances. Thanks b.w., I should have remembered that comments containing links seem disappear into “moderation limbo” for a while, and just posted the info first (not that I’m bitching Mania, you guys like to keep it clean here at MMAMania and I respect that. I mean, if I really need to swear in my comments I can always head over to Cagepotato for some comment anarchy)
And thanks john for the info on Ultimate Ultimate, being a bit of a “complete-ist” myself, that kinda bugs me. I’ll let you know if I find anything but, that said, if you (the guy who broke Lesnar v. Couture) haven’t been able to find it, I don’t like my chances.

]]> By: b.w. http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991560 b.w. Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:45:38 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991560 CANUCKLHEAD. that was a good link to the whole bjm/ufc contrversy. thats exactly what i was referring to. :) CANUCKLHEAD. that was a good link to the whole bjm/ufc contrversy. thats exactly what i was referring to. :)

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991505 john Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:13:13 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991505 This was a damn good conversation today boys. Very informative. We seemed to cover all the bases. In the end, hope to see Big John back in the Octagon where he belongs. This was a damn good conversation today boys. Very informative. We seemed to cover all the bases.

In the end, hope to see Big John back in the Octagon where he belongs.

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991503 john Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:12:19 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991503 Canuckle: Good luck trying to get Ultimate Ultimate. I have been trying to get events like that one for year. Take it from me, you will NOT find it on DVD in the USA. Best bet is to hope that there is a VHS copy of it for sale on e-bay or something, but its pretty rare. If you ever do Find it, please let me know Canuckle: Good luck trying to get Ultimate Ultimate. I have been trying to get events like that one for year. Take it from me, you will NOT find it on DVD in the USA. Best bet is to hope that there is a VHS copy of it for sale on e-bay or something, but its pretty rare. If you ever do Find it, please let me know

]]> By: Canucklehead http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991436 Canucklehead Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:28:19 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991436 On a somewhat related topic, I have been watching UFC 1-10 (as I had, inconceivably, never seen those events - I'm on 8 right now), and I must say it sure is cool to see Big John officiating those early UFCs. Oh and Marco Ruas is a friggin' animal. Those leg kicks on Varelens in the UFC 7 finale were ridiculous. He was definitely the first all around fighter to appear in the UFC. Totally awesome. UFC 6 is definitely worth checking out as well (I loves me some early Tank Abbot). And Ken Shamrock was brutally boring in those early shows (hopefully his "superfight" in 8 against Kimo is a good fight). Oh, and do any of you UFC hardcores know where I can get a copy of "Ultimate Ultimate" that was apparently sadnwiched between UFC 7 & 8, as it is oddly not included in the 1-10 set? On a somewhat related topic, I have been watching UFC 1-10 (as I had, inconceivably, never seen those events – I’m on 8 right now), and I must say it sure is cool to see Big John officiating those early UFCs. Oh and Marco Ruas is a friggin’ animal. Those leg kicks on Varelens in the UFC 7 finale were ridiculous. He was definitely the first all around fighter to appear in the UFC. Totally awesome. UFC 6 is definitely worth checking out as well (I loves me some early Tank Abbot). And Ken Shamrock was brutally boring in those early shows (hopefully his “superfight” in 8 against Kimo is a good fight).
Oh, and do any of you UFC hardcores know where I can get a copy of “Ultimate Ultimate” that was apparently sadnwiched between UFC 7 & 8, as it is oddly not included in the 1-10 set?

]]> By: b.w. http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991378 b.w. Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:02:29 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991378 GREGC . agreed, the reffing of late has become very questionable. maybee a simple apology from bjm is all it would take. i think he got a little too big-headed and thought he tried going beyond his boundries(imo), when he should have stuck with what he was best at-reffing. GREGC . agreed, the reffing of late has become very questionable. maybee a simple apology from bjm is all it would take. i think he got a little too big-headed and thought he tried going beyond his boundries(imo), when he should have stuck with what he was best at-reffing.

]]> By: belfort_fan http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991347 belfort_fan Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:48:03 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991347 suprise suprise suprise suprise

]]> By: derreck http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991332 derreck Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:38:37 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991332 I love how he said he missed this or that, funny when your job ends you suddenly miss what use to pay you well... I love how he said he missed this or that, funny when your job ends you suddenly miss what use to pay you well…

]]> By: kevin http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991263 kevin Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:10:35 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991263 I agree, that ref sucked. I agree with Rogan that fights shouldn't be stood up. I watched Bisping/schaffer last night, and Bisping/Hamill is another example of a fighter that works to get back to his feet! If a fighter is laying on a guy for the win, he won't be around for long, but it's mma, and I see UFC turning into kickboxing too much. BJJ is getting lost with these newer refs! I agree, that ref sucked. I agree with Rogan that fights shouldn’t be stood up. I watched Bisping/schaffer last night, and Bisping/Hamill is another example of a fighter that works to get back to his feet! If a fighter is laying on a guy for the win, he won’t be around for long, but it’s mma, and I see UFC turning into kickboxing too much. BJJ is getting lost with these newer refs!

]]> By: GregC http://mmamania.com/2008/11/05/big-john-mccarthy-to-return-to-referee-action-at-strikeforce-nov-21/comment-page-1/#comment-991239 GregC Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:03:10 +0000 http://mmamania.com/?p=9445#comment-991239 I think you're on the money with that one b.w. It would surprise me a lot if the UFC did anything of the sort though, because they know he's the best referee out there. Besides, with all the controversy that some questionable officiating has caused, they need the best ref's they can find. In the last couple of events I've been seeing ref's I've never seen before and you can certainly feel the difference. Ex. - The ref that Joe Rogan called out for constantly telling the fighters to work during the Maynard-Clementi fight. Sure it was a boring fight, but that doesn't mean they weren't working. I think you’re on the money with that one b.w. It would surprise me a lot if the UFC did anything of the sort though, because they know he’s the best referee out there. Besides, with all the controversy that some questionable officiating has caused, they need the best ref’s they can find. In the last couple of events I’ve been seeing ref’s I’ve never seen before and you can certainly feel the difference. Ex. – The ref that Joe Rogan called out for constantly telling the fighters to work during the Maynard-Clementi fight. Sure it was a boring fight, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t working.

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