John, I was just as made as you for a while, but I have thought about it and all is forgiven. I mainly just wanted to see Randy back in action with the organization that made him who he is. Well, he swallowed his pride and came back to take on the monster Brock. That counts for something as far as I am concerned. And if you really think about he has to face Nog (maybe) and Brock to get his belt back. Doesn’t sound like the easy way out to me. That would be an amazing feat and would put him at #2 for sure.

uhhh John he is a coward b/c he wanted to fight fedor and not Nog in the UFC? I would think you of all people would respect that, since you are in love with fedor and think he is God.. that’s pretty balsy of the old man to want to go after him.. Also your posts above were right maybe a year ago but now he is back fighting and if it works out he could be fighting Nog next… I don’t get your crying here

This fight will be THE TEST for Randy Couture. Lesnar is unlike any fighter ever to date. I hope that Randy does not compare Lesnar to other wrestlers he’s faced, ala Herring, because Lesnar is a totally new and different animal.

john I’ll back you on this. All is not forgiven when you lie to your fans and bail out on a contract. To answer you Kory yes Randy is a coward for calling out Fedor and dodging everyone else. The reasoning is because he knew if he fought anyone else, say AA or Nog, he’d lose and his major money fight with Fedor would slip away. That would be like Huerta saying I’ve beaten all of the LWs all I need to do now is fight Penn and then skip past fighting Florian. Had he done that the Penn fight would have been a big fight but now that he’s lost to Florian nobody thinks he’s going to beat Penn. I personally don’t want Brock to beat Randy because then Brock either fights Nog or Mir, he already lost to Mir and there is absolutely no way he’s going to beat Nog. I’d atleast like to see Randy fight someone who’s going to show him what its like to be a top HW. Not someone who’s going to lay on him for 25 minutes, no offense to Brock because I know he’ll be big stuff in the HW division. Oh and BNF Randy already has his title, Nog has to fight to gain his title back.

he lost a lot of fans by what he did, but it could have been a really good business move on his part… If he would have gotten that fight with fedor he would have made a ton of money off it and he didn’t want to risk fighting before that… You gotta do what is best for you

Thanks Cogito, I know he has the title, Nog has the interim title. I would expect he will not fully recognize himself as the champ until the “four man tournament” has a clear cut champion. Somewhat similar to what GSP did. But nice try…

BNF I wasn’t saying it to be rude. but currently Randy is the UFC title holder so I’m not wrong here, whether he admits it or not.

BTW, Randy wanted to fight Fedor for the money and the challenge. Now he has come back to the UFC for way less money than he wanted for the Fedor fight and a harder road to have to fight 2 guys now. I was very critical of Randy for a long time, I am a fan so I can forgive. I know lots of people have forgiven Rampage and what he did was WAAAAYYYY worse IMO!

BNF-

Excellent point.

BNF I agree that what Rampage had done is way worse and should be subject to much more ridicule. But to say Randy taking the harder road that he should have taken in the first place justifies that I should forgive him? Your more than entitled to forgive and forget and I won’t hold it against you at all. I’m just saying this is the road he should have taken in the first place. He should of said oh the UFC can’t get Fedor? well then I’ll let the UFC know that after my two fights on this contract are up that I’ll be going after Fedor in another org. The simple fact is he didn’t want to make the Fedor fight worth less than it was and losing to anyone would have done that. He faced Sylvia who he himself said was slacking and fighting not to lose, then he fought a young buck in Gonzaga and somehow this warrants that he is the number one HW and only Fedor is worthy of a match with him?

I dont get how Randy can be called a coward? He wanted to fight Fedor who beat Nog right? Now hes back after a long layoff and is gona fight BROCK! Brock wouldnt be an easy fight for no one to come back too. So again, why is Randy a coward???

Randy is not a coward and Cogito I am not telling you to forgive him. Also, I agree this is this is the road he should have taken, but he didn’t. Now he has seen the error of his ways and he is back. You are forgetting Randy is one of the most humble and well spoken guys in the UFC and I don’t believe he has ever called himself the #1 or #2 HW in the world. He simply said he wanted to fight the best.

JV-

He is not a coward. Fighters are not cowards. That’s an oxymoron. But Randy’s business dealings and self-centered “shenanigans” have turned off alot of fans. Fans are fickle.

Read the above post I explained this but let me put this in lament terms everyone can understand. Tito ducked Liddell when he held the title that way he could hold the title longer. Tito ended up losing his title anyway and then when Liddell got it he challenged him for it and lost. That doesn’t change the fact that Tito was ducking Liddell in the first place until he got what he wanted.

Now switch it up Randy was ducking Nog, AA, and even Mir so that his fight with Fedor could be considered a number one HW fight. He never actually beat anyone to make him the number 1 HW but if nobody beat him they couldn’t say that he wasn’t the number 1 HW. So he ducked them but when that back fired he cut a deal with the UFC to fight these guys to get out of his contract. In essence he tried ducking these guys and is now being punished by having to face Brock before he even gets a chance to face Nog. If that doesn’t make sense to you then your either in denial or a lost cause.

BNF, speaking of rankings have you noticed that when the Randy/Fedor fight out side the UFC was looking like it was going to happen, Randy was ranked at #2? Now that hes back with the UFC he dropped to what #4?

Where did you see that JV? And as far as I am concerned rankings are meaningless. The only rankings I would care about would be if the UFC had official rankings of their own fighters. Other than that it is all up for debate.

BNF maybe coward is too strong a word but I don’t give respect to fighters who duck other fighters. He has said that Fedor is the only legitimate fight for him, which is a slap to all the other HW’s who should be ranked ahead of him. I remember Randy always being well spoken but lieing to your fans and disrespecting fighters who are more deserving than you is something that I can’t respect. I know Randy has nothing to prove to me but I thought he could possibly take Fedor (pre Fedor Sylvia fight)but after what he has done and the way he left all of his fans in limbo I am no longer a fan. I don’t mind seeing him fight because he is good but he isn’t the best and shouldn’t be considered the best. His record speaks for itself.

I think I saw it on InsideMMA? And yea I think the rankings are bullsh*t too.

why was fedor given so much respect for beating tim sylvia when randy a, at the age of 43, did a year before!

b.w. I think the argument would be the fashion in which Fedor beat Silvia. But, IMO, a 5 round beating shows more domination than a 30 second couple of punches and questionable choke with a immediate tap.

Cogito, its all good brother… I choose to forgive and move on. And as of right now I don’t think Randy will be able to beat Brock anyways. But I am a fan of both so I will sit back, crack a beer and enjoy, whoever wins is okay with me.

Sounds good to me, I don’t think Randy will beat Brock either but thats usually when he wins. I am actually hoping Randy will win just because I’d rather not see Mir Lesnar 2 and I don’t think Brock is anywhere near ready to face Nog.

BNF. thats the way i saw it as well. randy knocked him on his a$$ with 1 punch in the 1rst 5 seconds (props to fedor with those unbelievable long arms of his) and almost had him. the only difference i saw between the 2 fights was tim gave up alot quicker against fedor than randy. i think he had a randy flashback and thought “screw it, im gonna get my butt kicked again, might as well tap and get my guaranteed 800k”. i dont take anything away from fedors performance against sylvia (it was awesome), but can he do it after the age of 40? thats why randy is a legend.

Cogito: Good stuff! U completely understood what I was trying to say. Great points man!

Randy is DUCKING Nog! U know why? Because Randy will retire NEVER having fought Nog! U wait and see. Couture will not beat Brock, Nog will beat Mir, so once again Captain Senile will retire without fighting Nogueira, and thats a damn shame!

Randy has acted as if he was a top 2 fighter saying there is nothing else to prove and that the only fight that makes sence is Fedor. Randy hasnt beaten ANYONE worth a damn at Heavyweight! who has he ever beaten? Pedro Rizzo? Gonzaga? Sylvia? am I supposed to be impressed? He holds no wins over top Heavyweights like:

Arlovski
Nog
Fedor
Barnett
Werdum
Sergei
Aleks

so how did he ever get it into his senile old brain that he was #2 in the rankings? Because he beat a couple of pathetic HW’s when the UFC HW division was Garbage? Arlovski has been in the UFC for like 7 years, yet Randy has never fought him. I wonder why?

Fake ass paper Champion!~ The champion I recognize is the Legend Nogueira!

Everyone’s couting Mir out, which is why I think hes going to be the one to take it all… everyone is going to look past him and hes going to pull off something nasty on nog and then brock/couture

John, if he beats lesnar, then he will fight either Nog or Mir. You make it sound like he is intentionally going to lose to Brock to stay away from Nogueira. To be honest, I think Lesnar poses more of threat to Couture than Nog. Nog has a completely different game than Randy, where as Lesnar is basically a younger, bigger, stronger, and faster version of Randy. That being said, I hope Randy can pull off the win, and face Nog(provided Nog beats Mir).

Also, Aleks does not belong in your list, and I don’t think anyone ranks Aleks above Couture.

And did you notice Randy is wearin’ an Affliction shirt? That’s a big no-no if you’re in the UFC, right?

not at heavyweight! He is so over rated at heavyweight that its not even funny!

OK… I’ve read the rants n raves”… Couture… old man, ok… liar,ok… greedy,ok.. coward? bitch?.. LMAO!

I admire Nog don’t get me wrong… Silva peppered the shit out of Nog until he got tired and of course the good ol’ heart n’ soul Nog submission.

Couture beat the hell out of Silvia standing and beat the hell out of him on the ground with energy to spare.

Couture could never tap out or KO Nog… Nog will not tire out or submit Couture, but Nog will be on his back with his eyeball hanging out of his head when the ref stops it on TKO… IMAO.

Just sounds like hate… that’s ok too, but I’m not buying all of what some of you r trying to sell.

no he will get KTFO! I just see Brock coming out and dominating him wherever the fight takes place, his hands are faster than Randy’s and when Brock hits him he will go down for sure..