DBG, I’m thinking along the same lines. I’m curious to see how it will work out, but I just can’t watch boxing (believe me, Ive tried and tried). I think I’m going to wait for some Maniacs to review it for me.
OFF TOPIC: I HAD to share this with you guys, i laughed til I thought I was going to throw up! I was at the gym tonight. There’s a few of us who regularly go at the late hours, and one of the guys and the manager always debate football. They’re both Steelers fans. Well, this one guy comes in, pulls up his shirt ( tons of tattoo’s) and yells,”who’s the biggest fan now?” OMG, he had gotten a belly button piercing with a little chain on it with the steelers symbol. The rest of us fell out laughing, he’s getting mad, and I ask when he’s going to get a Pittsburgh lower back tattoo. Hmm…this isn’t near as funny reading it as being there, but oh well.
Too Bad My EAGLES are going to literally DESTROY the steelers this sunday.
I was listening to sports radio 610 W.I.P in Philly this morning and a fan got Trent Cole’s entire eagles Jersey tatooed on his back a few months back. This fan showed it to Cole at the week 1 game vs. the rams and got Cole to sign his back, he then went to the tatoo parlor and had Cole’s signature tatooed on his Jersey covered body, so now this fan has an autographed Trent Cole Jersey tatooed on his body.
Ps How long is going to take to piss of Oscar when a mma guy wins and sayas some shit about how mma guys are better than boxers- or vis versa could be a disfunctional allingnment with affliction and golden boy I just don’t see the point.
that might be a good thing, than they can fight each other once in a boxing match and than in mma, pride did this alot with k-1 and i loved it.as along as its the top boxers and top mma guys i think the cards will be great.
That was some funny shit with Bas and Kenny on the duet!
Looks like an interesting episode if GSP is on there and to even out the balance we got outrselves a couple of BOOBIES! Not that radio dude and Gina but her own personal funbags.
O baby they said it at the HIGHEST LEVEL! That hopefully means Pac-man Calzaghe pavlik and such id love to watch some of my fav boxers+my fav mma fighters should be great.
Pac-Man, and Pavlik are with Top Rank. So how would Golden Boy Promotions get them to fight for them? They would have to cut Top Rank in and then you got a 3-way split!!!
bas rutten could make watching paint dry entertaining lol… he said it though, they better put on some VERY exciting boxing matches for this whole thing to be a success
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Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 23:24:42
Normally, at least for me, exciting boxing matches is an oxymoron.
Comment by JV
2008-09-18 23:39:26
Theres only two exciting Boxing matches I can think of, Margarito/Cotto 2 and Pavlik/Calzaghe. But those 4 fighters are not with Golden Boy Promotion. Mosley is fighting Mayorga for free on HBO. And Pavlik/Hopkins is not PPV worthy IMO???
Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-19 05:47:37
I was a huge boxing fan growing up but since a lot of fights haven’t lived up the hype over the last few years I’m beginning to care less and less.
I guess it will be the boxing fans complaining about dudes wrestling on the ground VS MMA fans complaining about long drawn out fights with too much clinching and stalling (my personal gripe).
If anyone can do it it will be these two promotions so we’ll have to wait and see.
Hopefully it wont be the demise of Affliction though if it doesn’t all work out.
Comment by john
2008-09-19 07:31:47
As much as I love Fedor, I will not support an mma event that features Boxing matches. I just WONT do it! I dont care how good the fights are, I pay to watch MMA, PERIOD!
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-19 07:51:20
john, I will be very interested in the parody of payouts to boxers and MMA fighters though! But i’m with you, not going to shell out hard earned money to watch boxing.
Comment by OJR
2008-09-19 09:55:20
Chef-
Boxing is an acquired taste.
I am not going to try and covert you to boxing BUT if you see the right match-ups you will be very surprised.
The best example of a “boxing style” in MMA is Machida. Feints, combinations and counter striking. His footwork at avoiding strikes is also similar to the “sweet science.”
Alot of people find Machida boring so I can understand why MMA fans can find boxing to be boring as well.
good try OJR, but I also won’t buy mixed PPV’s. I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not interested!!
Comment by RoB
2008-09-19 10:05:01
ok, but in boxing they sure as hell throw more punches than 5 per round.. the best example of boxing in MMA is obvious, It’s Sakara because he is a boxer..
Comment by OJR
2008-09-19 10:28:02
Kevin-
I think its the casual fan that will make or break this PPV oddity.
I would buy it because I obviously like both but people like me are probably in the 1 - 5 %.
Rob-
Sakara? Nope, not even close.
Spencer Fischer’s second fight against Sam Stout.
Now that was an MMA match that closely resembled a boxing match. Spencer worked combos, provided angles and had excellent footwork.
Fans LOVED that match but still frown on boxing.
People are fickle…
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-19 10:35:40
OJR, don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen some very entertaining fights, but simply find it boring as a whole. And I don’t disrespect boxing, as I sure as sh*T would’nt want to tangle with a skilled boxer. lol. I guess, for me, there is a better prospect for an exciting fight in MMA. And I always think, when watching boxing, that they wouldn’t stand a chance with a same tier martial artist. Plus, all the hate MMA gets from hardcore boxing fans has probably influenced my bias as well.
Comment by roy
2008-09-19 10:37:15
i guess you have to love boxing to enjoy this but i would love a card with fedor and oscar on it, or anyother top boxer and mma fighter, i see some mma huys taking on boxers down the road and vice versa pride did it with k-1 and there special rules fights and i enjoyed those.i can understand if you hate boxing but if not this could be a good thing and i could see converting more boxing fans over and making mma even bigger.
lol you’ll never get that card though roy, it will be the same affliction fighters you’ll get anyways, with a few up and coming boxers. Oscar headlines pure boxing events, he would never step down to sell ppv’s for mma! he’s done after manny beats him any how!
Comment by OJR
2008-09-19 10:57:50
Chef-
I understand. I don’t want to come across as a boxing maniac but I respect the sport because I practice it.
As far as boxing fans hating MMA then they are stupid. Plain and simple.
As far as MMA fans hating boxing. Same thing.
I wasn’t trying to convert anyone, just wanted to share my opinion.
I don’t take you for a hater anyway.
Roy-
I agree w/ you. This could lead to boxing fans converting to MMA. Never a bad thing.
Comment by john
2008-09-19 11:29:35
I have to admit, I really did enjoy what Pride did with K-1. Great point guys!
Comment by john
2008-09-19 11:31:47
Chefdaddy: Brought up a great point as well about what the payouts would be financially. I wonder if Fedor can command enough of a salary to compete with Boxers salaries.
Also, I wonder how much this type of event would cost on ppv? I would imagine it would have to be higher than the normal $45 we are used to spending on UFC events
Comment by roy
2008-09-19 12:02:21
kevin i real don’t see what your talking about the same old affliction fighters are some of the best in the business imo, who are you talking about fedor barnett aa lindland belfort ect. and the list is growing i would watch those guys fight over and over again they can mix match and not have them same fight for the next couple with just who they have right now and that would be fine with me, kevin do you know who these fighters are? because you sure don’t seem to care about watching them fight.i get a good laugh at your comments though.
Comment by roy
2008-09-19 12:06:24
i think that could happen john, with a top boxer and a guy like fedor on the card it could be huge, you got the boxing fans ordering it for that fight and any true MMA fan would want to see fedor fight. once the boxing fans saw fedor in action how could they not get into mma and you know it will only help the fighters pay witch i am all for.
i think this is a great idea… saves me some money trying to buy this event and that event… the way i see it is a good boxing event comes every so often so when it does i might as well see if some of my mma fighters dish it out.. its going to be dope in my opinion…… it helps both boxing and mma… it gives boxing fans a first look at mma .. and it gives mma fans new and up in coming fighters to look at
I still dont get how Gloden Boy Promotions will benefit Affliction? Im still a big fan of boxing, because thats what I grew up on. But I keep my Boxing and MMA seperate. Whats gona happen to boxing when those fans see how exciting MMA is? And who does Golden Boy Promotions have as a big name? Mosely, Hopkins, Barrera is retired. Top Rank has the big names in boxing right now, Margarito, Cotto, Pavlik, Chavez jr, so again how does this partnership help?
it won’t. golden boy will be putting up the paper for the thing which means affliction becomes their bitch. mma becomes the sideshow to “major boxing matches”.
if they go even, then both fans of boxing and fans of mma will feel alienated.
It seems like Affliction will use DelaHoya’s name to rake in more PPV buys. And Golden Boy Promotions will use Affliction to get exposure for their (no name) fighters.
If a card had Pavlik and Fedor on it, I would gladly pay good money for it. I grew up on boxing and I still watch it, BUT I think mma is significantly more exciting. If it isn’t a top tier boxing match, the boxing is going to get outshun.
Maybe Affliction is looking to bring fans of boxing into MMA? Then once the 4 events are finished, they will start up MMA again while goldenboy goes down. Just a thought. MMA is just more exciting to me.
It’s bastardizing the 2 sports. I’m trying to figure out if this is going to be successful or not?… Are they going to have 1 boxing 1 MMA or all boxing then MMA?….
Lets say a soccer game and football game would last 1 hr each, would fans watch that?
I think you would get some BOXING converts to MMA but not the other way around.
i don’t think this is a good idea.. realistically do you want to sit their and watch a boxing match, then next event is MMA?? i couldn’t care less about what afflication does, because its starting to become very stupid.. i just feel bad for the talent that affliction has(i.e. AA, Barnet, Fedor, Tim, Vitor etc…) because the UFC let them go, if Affliction doesn’t make it, which i think they’ll fold in a year or two then those fighters won’t fight for a big organization ever again
I wouldn’t even download an Affliction card that has boxing on it much less pay for it. Affliction was building their fan base from “hardcore” MMa fans and a lot of these are the same people who dont really favor boxing. Bad move
Exactly, I might even make a snack, flip to another show, etc. during the boxing matches…if it was free! I’m sure as hell not going to pay any amount of money to do that. I’ll watch the MMA fights illegally posted on-line. Horrible horrible move; They didn’t even sound excited about it while they were announcing it.
I’m not excited about this at all. If I want to watch boxing, I’ll watch a boxing event. If I want to watch MMA, I’ll watch an MMA event. If I want to watch heavy metal, I’ll go to a heavy metal gig.
Affliction has some great fighters, why can’t they make a great PPV with them?!
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I will not buy ppv’s if there going to have boxing on the same card as mma-Boring ass shit
DBG, I’m thinking along the same lines. I’m curious to see how it will work out, but I just can’t watch boxing (believe me, Ive tried and tried). I think I’m going to wait for some Maniacs to review it for me.
OFF TOPIC: I HAD to share this with you guys, i laughed til I thought I was going to throw up! I was at the gym tonight. There’s a few of us who regularly go at the late hours, and one of the guys and the manager always debate football. They’re both Steelers fans. Well, this one guy comes in, pulls up his shirt ( tons of tattoo’s) and yells,”who’s the biggest fan now?” OMG, he had gotten a belly button piercing with a little chain on it with the steelers symbol. The rest of us fell out laughing, he’s getting mad, and I ask when he’s going to get a Pittsburgh lower back tattoo. Hmm…this isn’t near as funny reading it as being there, but oh well.
lol, queeeeer
Yea It is pretty funny,Even more so I’m A browns Fan they may lose but good god there mean
Whats wrong with that? Just kidding. That is pretty gay.
Chef-
Great story. Maybe is was that douche from the other thread.
You know, mr computer tuff guy. LOL.
Too Bad My EAGLES are going to literally DESTROY the steelers this sunday.
I was listening to sports radio 610 W.I.P in Philly this morning and a fan got Trent Cole’s entire eagles Jersey tatooed on his back a few months back. This fan showed it to Cole at the week 1 game vs. the rams and got Cole to sign his back, he then went to the tatoo parlor and had Cole’s signature tatooed on his Jersey covered body, so now this fan has an autographed Trent Cole Jersey tatooed on his body.
U gotta love the Philly Fans!
Damn,
That is HARDCORE.
too bad dallas showed philly whats up
Ps How long is going to take to piss of Oscar when a mma guy wins and sayas some shit about how mma guys are better than boxers- or vis versa could be a disfunctional allingnment with affliction and golden boy I just don’t see the point.
that might be a good thing, than they can fight each other once in a boxing match and than in mma, pride did this alot with k-1 and i loved it.as along as its the top boxers and top mma guys i think the cards will be great.
That was some funny shit with Bas and Kenny on the duet!
Looks like an interesting episode if GSP is on there and to even out the balance we got outrselves a couple of BOOBIES! Not that radio dude and Gina but her own personal funbags.
O baby they said it at the HIGHEST LEVEL! That hopefully means Pac-man Calzaghe pavlik and such id love to watch some of my fav boxers+my fav mma fighters should be great.
Pac-Man, and Pavlik are with Top Rank. So how would Golden Boy Promotions get them to fight for them? They would have to cut Top Rank in and then you got a 3-way split!!!
bas rutten could make watching paint dry entertaining lol… he said it though, they better put on some VERY exciting boxing matches for this whole thing to be a success
Normally, at least for me, exciting boxing matches is an oxymoron.
Theres only two exciting Boxing matches I can think of, Margarito/Cotto 2 and Pavlik/Calzaghe. But those 4 fighters are not with Golden Boy Promotion. Mosley is fighting Mayorga for free on HBO. And Pavlik/Hopkins is not PPV worthy IMO???
I was a huge boxing fan growing up but since a lot of fights haven’t lived up the hype over the last few years I’m beginning to care less and less.
I guess it will be the boxing fans complaining about dudes wrestling on the ground VS MMA fans complaining about long drawn out fights with too much clinching and stalling (my personal gripe).
If anyone can do it it will be these two promotions so we’ll have to wait and see.
Hopefully it wont be the demise of Affliction though if it doesn’t all work out.
As much as I love Fedor, I will not support an mma event that features Boxing matches. I just WONT do it! I dont care how good the fights are, I pay to watch MMA, PERIOD!
john, I will be very interested in the parody of payouts to boxers and MMA fighters though! But i’m with you, not going to shell out hard earned money to watch boxing.
Chef-
Boxing is an acquired taste.
I am not going to try and covert you to boxing BUT if you see the right match-ups you will be very surprised.
The best example of a “boxing style” in MMA is Machida. Feints, combinations and counter striking. His footwork at avoiding strikes is also similar to the “sweet science.”
Alot of people find Machida boring so I can understand why MMA fans can find boxing to be boring as well.
good try OJR, but I also won’t buy mixed PPV’s. I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not interested!!
ok, but in boxing they sure as hell throw more punches than 5 per round.. the best example of boxing in MMA is obvious, It’s Sakara because he is a boxer..
Kevin-
I think its the casual fan that will make or break this PPV oddity.
I would buy it because I obviously like both but people like me are probably in the 1 - 5 %.
Rob-
Sakara? Nope, not even close.
Spencer Fischer’s second fight against Sam Stout.
Now that was an MMA match that closely resembled a boxing match. Spencer worked combos, provided angles and had excellent footwork.
Fans LOVED that match but still frown on boxing.
People are fickle…
OJR, don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen some very entertaining fights, but simply find it boring as a whole. And I don’t disrespect boxing, as I sure as sh*T would’nt want to tangle with a skilled boxer. lol. I guess, for me, there is a better prospect for an exciting fight in MMA. And I always think, when watching boxing, that they wouldn’t stand a chance with a same tier martial artist. Plus, all the hate MMA gets from hardcore boxing fans has probably influenced my bias as well.
i guess you have to love boxing to enjoy this but i would love a card with fedor and oscar on it, or anyother top boxer and mma fighter, i see some mma huys taking on boxers down the road and vice versa pride did it with k-1 and there special rules fights and i enjoyed those.i can understand if you hate boxing but if not this could be a good thing and i could see converting more boxing fans over and making mma even bigger.
lol you’ll never get that card though roy, it will be the same affliction fighters you’ll get anyways, with a few up and coming boxers. Oscar headlines pure boxing events, he would never step down to sell ppv’s for mma! he’s done after manny beats him any how!
Chef-
I understand. I don’t want to come across as a boxing maniac but I respect the sport because I practice it.
As far as boxing fans hating MMA then they are stupid. Plain and simple.
As far as MMA fans hating boxing. Same thing.
I wasn’t trying to convert anyone, just wanted to share my opinion.
I don’t take you for a hater anyway.
Roy-
I agree w/ you. This could lead to boxing fans converting to MMA. Never a bad thing.
I have to admit, I really did enjoy what Pride did with K-1. Great point guys!
Chefdaddy: Brought up a great point as well about what the payouts would be financially. I wonder if Fedor can command enough of a salary to compete with Boxers salaries.
Also, I wonder how much this type of event would cost on ppv? I would imagine it would have to be higher than the normal $45 we are used to spending on UFC events
kevin i real don’t see what your talking about the same old affliction fighters are some of the best in the business imo, who are you talking about fedor barnett aa lindland belfort ect. and the list is growing i would watch those guys fight over and over again they can mix match and not have them same fight for the next couple with just who they have right now and that would be fine with me, kevin do you know who these fighters are? because you sure don’t seem to care about watching them fight.i get a good laugh at your comments though.
i think that could happen john, with a top boxer and a guy like fedor on the card it could be huge, you got the boxing fans ordering it for that fight and any true MMA fan would want to see fedor fight. once the boxing fans saw fedor in action how could they not get into mma and you know it will only help the fighters pay witch i am all for.
i think this is a great idea… saves me some money trying to buy this event and that event… the way i see it is a good boxing event comes every so often so when it does i might as well see if some of my mma fighters dish it out.. its going to be dope in my opinion…… it helps both boxing and mma… it gives boxing fans a first look at mma .. and it gives mma fans new and up in coming fighters to look at
I guess I will never bother buying another Affliction PPV. To bad to, the first one was pretty good.
I still dont get how Gloden Boy Promotions will benefit Affliction? Im still a big fan of boxing, because thats what I grew up on. But I keep my Boxing and MMA seperate. Whats gona happen to boxing when those fans see how exciting MMA is? And who does Golden Boy Promotions have as a big name? Mosely, Hopkins, Barrera is retired. Top Rank has the big names in boxing right now, Margarito, Cotto, Pavlik, Chavez jr, so again how does this partnership help?
it won’t. golden boy will be putting up the paper for the thing which means affliction becomes their bitch. mma becomes the sideshow to “major boxing matches”.
if they go even, then both fans of boxing and fans of mma will feel alienated.
It seems like Affliction will use DelaHoya’s name to rake in more PPV buys. And Golden Boy Promotions will use Affliction to get exposure for their (no name) fighters.
BIG WHOOP
If a card had Pavlik and Fedor on it, I would gladly pay good money for it. I grew up on boxing and I still watch it, BUT I think mma is significantly more exciting. If it isn’t a top tier boxing match, the boxing is going to get outshun.
Maybe Affliction is looking to bring fans of boxing into MMA? Then once the 4 events are finished, they will start up MMA again while goldenboy goes down. Just a thought. MMA is just more exciting to me.
It’s bastardizing the 2 sports. I’m trying to figure out if this is going to be successful or not?… Are they going to have 1 boxing 1 MMA or all boxing then MMA?….
Lets say a soccer game and football game would last 1 hr each, would fans watch that?
I think you would get some BOXING converts to MMA but not the other way around.
CRAZY STUFF’
i don’t think this is a good idea.. realistically do you want to sit their and watch a boxing match, then next event is MMA?? i couldn’t care less about what afflication does, because its starting to become very stupid.. i just feel bad for the talent that affliction has(i.e. AA, Barnet, Fedor, Tim, Vitor etc…) because the UFC let them go, if Affliction doesn’t make it, which i think they’ll fold in a year or two then those fighters won’t fight for a big organization ever again
I wouldn’t even download an Affliction card that has boxing on it much less pay for it. Affliction was building their fan base from “hardcore” MMa fans and a lot of these are the same people who dont really favor boxing. Bad move
Exactly, I might even make a snack, flip to another show, etc. during the boxing matches…if it was free! I’m sure as hell not going to pay any amount of money to do that. I’ll watch the MMA fights illegally posted on-line. Horrible horrible move; They didn’t even sound excited about it while they were announcing it.
I’m not excited about this at all. If I want to watch boxing, I’ll watch a boxing event. If I want to watch MMA, I’ll watch an MMA event. If I want to watch heavy metal, I’ll go to a heavy metal gig.
Affliction has some great fighters, why can’t they make a great PPV with them?!
Rashad Evans is in the Windows commercials..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hhVjSbV_oQ
Last part of the ad!
LOL, man, that part of the commercial was completely out of place.