ufc fight night 15 recap
UFC Fight Night 15 from the Omaha Civic Auditorium in Omaha, Neb., has come to a close.

The big winners: The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 5 winner Nate Diaz and fellow lightweight division member, Clay Guida.

The big losers: Hometown hero Houston Alexander, and, well, hometown hero Houston Alexander.

“The Nebraskan Assassin” kicked off the main card action against Milwaukee native Eric Schafer in a light heavyweight bout. With his job perhaps on the line, Alexander either needed a win or an impressive performance to remain in the good graces of Zuffa brass.

Neither happened.

It was the classic “striker vs. grappler” match up. And the fight pretty much stuck to that script. Alexander came out headhunting and Schafer came out ducking, looking to get the fight to the canvas as soon as possible on his terms.

Alexander appeared to have a few surprises waiting for “Red” when he attempted his takedowns — several knees to the grill. Schafer, however, appeared to have both knees down at one point when the knees struck, but the referee in charge of the action, Josh Rosenthal, didn’t catch them.

“Red” sure did.

He eventually cleared the cobwebs and continued to attempt to get Alexander to the floor. And the “Assassin” did a solid job of defending the first few shots.

But it only takes one. And Schafer’s persistence eventually paid off.

With Alexander on the mat, Schafer passed to side control with about as much resistance as Gary Shaw demonstrates at an all-you-can-eat buffet. The Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt immediately began to work submissions, including a guillotine that Alexander pried off.

However, Schafer landed in full mount after the escape and grounded and pounded the local disc jockey for most of the second half of the round. He finally realized there were only about 15 seconds left in the round and angled for an arm triangle.

No problem — Alexander tapped with just seconds remaining in the first round and the referee peeled him off the canvas bloody, beaten and boggled.

Schafer made it looked that easy, which is perhaps more likely because Alexander proved once again — despite his pre-fight rhetoric — that his ground skills are just not up to par with his powerful stand up arsenal.

That’s just not going to cut it at the UFC level. And fan favorite or not he might find himself outside the Octagon looking in now with three straight losses.

Alan Belcher and Ed Herman then went toe-to-toe in a middleweight match up.

“The Talent” apparently trained in Thailand for the bout. And his month-long stint abroad paid dividends immediately with an accidental eye poke to start the fight that momentarily blinded “Short Fuse.”

From that point on it was pretty much the same type of fight for three rounds: Belcher strafing Herman with low kicks and effective punches and Herman weathering the storm, exchanging briefly and securing takedowns.

Herman did some nice work on the ground, but it wasn’t enough to finish the fight at anytime during the 15 minutes of action.

Belcher eventually went on to earn a split decision win, showing some fluid movement throughout the fight. Or is it showboating?

I can’t tell anymore.

Regardless, his performance was solid and hopefully Belcher can build on his two wins and shuck the inconsistent label.

And the Thai nuthuggers.

The match up between Guida and TUF 6 winner, Mac Danzig, was all about wrestling, wrestling and more wrestling.

“The Carpenter” — true to form — executed his typical gameplan, which includes a relentless pace and a double dose of takedowns and attempts.

Danzig actually commanded the center of the Octagon for most of the first round and stalked Guida, but it was just a matter of time before the Energizer bunny took over.

Danzig looked calm and composed throughout most of the fight, but as time wore on it was clear that he was visibly frustrated. And who could blame him … Guida is like that annoying kid in school who just can never take a hint (see Holland, Jesse).

The crowd was actually heard booing toward the tail end of the scrap. And perhaps the referee could have separated them more often when the two were at a stalemate up against the fence.

But Guida was constantly working and moving, making it hard for anyone to call him on stalling. It’ll be interesting to see if the 26-year-old will remain a “gatekeeper” of the division (Mac’s words, not mine) or if he’ll get a shot at another contender like … Nate Diaz?

Diaz put on another jiu-jitsu clinic. The only difference this time is that he didn’t come away with a submission win like he has in his last six appearances.

His opponent, Josh Neer, demonstrated a tremendous amount of skill and was unafraid to mix it up with Stockton’s finest on the feet or on the ground. “The Dentist” even had Diaz in several menacing positions; however, he would always find a way to escape or reverse.

It was an entertaining fight from bell-to-bell. Both fighters should be commended for their efforts although my unofficial scorecard had Diaz winning two of the three rounds — unsure how it was a split decision.

One thing that is clear is that Diaz is ready for the upper echelon of the division. He gets better with every fight and tonight was no different.

Calling Tyson Griffin, come in, Tyson.

That’s a wrap. Share your thoughts on the event in the comments section below. And for those who missed it or were too drunk to recall everything that happened feel free to check out the complete UFC Fight Night 15 results right here.

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Comment by RealDrew
2008-09-17 23:36:18

Still can’t stand the Diaz brothers.

Comment by Chase
2008-09-17 23:44:20

Same.

Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-18 07:55:34

~stinkys` ~recap!

wow- last night was one heck of an event!

that was the most fun i have had at a ufn!.~ever!

houston alex is gone! there is no-way we see him back.

alan belcher was looking pretty sexy in those shorts.

guida is a machine!

and my homie nate diaz fought one heck of a war.

props to neer!

all my fans should be glad to hear that old stinky fingers

cashed in on my stinky~bets.

37k profit~ woop~woop!

7 right 3 wrong. and no parlay.

say word to big~bird!

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Comment by Kory
2008-09-18 08:16:44

does anyone actually still think this guy is real? Him and his magical bookie that makes the favorites underdogs which he bets on and makes “tons” of money… lol

 
Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-18 08:37:52

i am real.

im chilling with santa- the easter bunny

and mother fugdin roger rabbit right now in neverland

on captin hooks boat smoking a fat dooby with shmee and

a couple of butt-pirates.

 
Comment by KAS
2008-09-18 08:56:47

stinky, stay away from the drugs

 
Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-18 09:19:51

kas,

hoop a dildo.

playa hater!

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-09-18 09:31:57

Laughable

 
Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-18 10:52:20

If only I had the money you do Stink, I would have made a killing last night. I was 6/7, making small bets with my homies. I made around 90 bucks with 20 dollar bets, and one 10 dollar bet on Neer (I wanted Diaz, but they wouldn’t let me take him… then lost it all shortly thereafter in poker).

So, kick me down next time Stink, and I’ll shoot you some Cali dank;) $10k would be sufficient. Lol!

 
Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-18 10:57:24

What did i tell you about Guida? The dude brings it. Great gameplan, for he wasn’t doing so well in the standup. For those who think he was just pressing Danzig against the gate and not being effective, his strategy still required a lot of energy. All of those take downs and pushing foward clearly frustrated Danzig. Guida simply stuffed Danzig’s plan.

Although, the fight didn’t make me think any less of Danzig, In fact, I have a lot more respect for him and look foward to seeing him fight in the future, he’s crazy technical and has pinpoint accuracy in his punches. I was extremely impressed with his standup. Good sh*t Danzig.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-18 11:05:11

Truth.

 
Comment by The Negation
2008-09-20 14:13:05

Danzig has shown his black wings…As for Stinky, word up!

 
 
 
Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 00:04:06

If only he would learn to speak english….

 
Comment by JV
2008-09-18 00:04:33

Nate was ok at first. But after tonight he sounds as stupid as Nick!

Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 01:14:09

Up until now, I think Nate utilized all his self restraint to subdue his dumass’ gansta’ attitude and it kind of spilled out tonight in the post fight interview. Sounds like he trying to impress his bro’ n’ homies from Stockton.

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Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-18 08:18:26

yo that is how nate diaz is in real life buddy.

to bad if u dont like it. the man is a steet soldier

and it seems like u know nothing about that.

both diaz brothers are two of the nicest people in the

world.

they just dont like the type of people

that r judgemental of someone cause of

the way they act or where they are from.

the language my homie nate speaks is the language

he learned growing up. dont blame him cause he was raised

in stockton. its a rough life out there and he is trying

his best to stay out of the life many of his childhood

friends chose-

such as robbers murderers and drug addicts.

nate is doing his thing bro.

he is a bad man in the cage- but the nicest man outside.

he just likes to work himself up before a fight.

he gets more pumped then anyone i have ever met in my life.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-18 10:13:26

I agree. I can’t hate on someone who keeps it real and does not put on a fake image. He is a fighter, not a politician.

 
Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-18 10:20:37

say word!

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 14:19:06

Stinky Fingers~ My newphew wrestles in Stockton. One of the kids in the wrestling room I assitant coach goes to their gym… I know they can be nice guys”’ I definitely know something about Stockton and the kids that go’ throught that life… I coach many of them and they keep me on my toes’… believe me, that gansta’ attitude n’ swearing doesn’t fly in our room or against opposing teams.

Don’t get me wrong, I ‘really’ like the Diaz brothers, but sometimes their antics’ throws a negative light on them and MMA.

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 22:29:17

What no reply?… What’s the word Stinky… ‘buddy’?..lol

 
Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-19 06:32:50

yo thorazine~ i got ur reply right here buddy.

right next to my nutz![just kidding]

but seriously~

what i originally disagreed with was when u said

he is prob just trying to impress his brother and

homies from stockton.

the thing there is that nate grew up talking that way

cause everyone around him talks that way.

who would he be trying to imress?

u make it seem like he talks that way on purpose to look

cool or something? and thats not the case.

i grew up in stockton aswell as nate. i know him

personally and can gaurantee that he is not trying to

look cool.

he is just being himself.

he ran his mouth after the fight cause he was still pumped.

the slang and the way he talks wont change cause that is

the language he knows. the language eveyone around him

uses growing up in stockton.

u shouldnt hate on someone cause of the slang or way

they talk.

not everyone is from where ur at.

 
Comment by ~stinky~fingers~
2008-09-19 06:41:03

also~

not everyone who talks like the diaz bros are ‘gangstas’

that it self is alomost an insult and a very

sterotypical way to think.

like i said above~

both diaz bros are the nicest peeps i know and would

never be a jerk for no reason.

most people that catch the rude side of the diaz bros

are the judgemental peeps and the ones that just look at

them as wanna be thugs/gangstas~ cause the way the talk.

when in all actuality

both bros are trying to better there lifes by not choosing

the path that most kids from stockton choose growing up.

who cares about the slang its all about how they bang!

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-23 16:17:29

StinkyFingers, this thread is old, glad u responded… U make a point on ‘trying to impress’… I’m going to articulate further, I like them both, they are Authentic. I’m not speaking from dislike one bit… I know u couldn’t tell from the one post, but I got many other posts around to prove I’m a fan of theirs. Both of them are not always comfortable on camera or in the news, so I know how they come across.

We are all judgemental whether we like it or not, just as u judged me from the little bit I 1st wrote.

Nick carries himself like a ‘professional’… Not so much Nick, even though he is one hellva fighter and deeply genuine guy, and in his own way he’s making himself a career after some struggling.

… Nate is evolving personally with age and experience… if he’s going to, as u said, ‘run his mouth’… he’s going to hurt his career bit by bit… The UFC is promoting Nate because he got off to a great start and because he is not Nick… I know the way these guys feel about Dana White, yet Nate has so far, respected a professional underlying code of conduct, controlled by Dana White, and I know how they feel about him as well. I also know the UFC is watching closely. Nick going off at the post fight inteview didn’t help Nate either.

I don’t want to see Nate blow his chances because of his life influences, whether it be his buddies or bro. Everytime I see Nate take a step in the wrong direction I hope he settles down and moves in the right direction otherwise I probably will post a ‘verbal spanking’ everytime he steps out of line. MMA Fighting is not just about ‘Fighting’… It’s about handling your business and a handling a career path with maturity to become a good champion.

Discussing street slang is a whole debate within itself, and in my opinion it’s more of an ‘attitude’ and lifestyle choice that once that person matures, they usually leave it behind.

Peace Out SinkyFingers’

 
 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-18 05:06:18

I like how Joe Rogan makes it sound like the Diaz brother’s intentionally throw weak punches.

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Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-09-18 06:53:59

Rogan gets more biased with every event. He was swinging from Houstons nuts big time last night, as well as Hermans, Guidas, and Neers.

 
Comment by JRK
2008-09-18 08:38:27

Can you really blame the guy for be a fan of good exciting fighters? Well… except for Herman. Short Fuse is looking like he may have a short career… in the UFC at least.

 
Comment by PW
2008-09-18 09:09:35

Paging Mr. Herman, Mr. Herman to EliteXC.

 
 
 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 00:22:29

I thought Nate showed a lot of class towards Josh. Josh showed great class too. At one point I started laughing at the diaz brothers. They both always look so angry and it was just funny for some reason. Regardless, Nate did a great job and he proved that he can go the distance.

 
 
Comment by juggalomike
2008-09-17 23:45:37

cmon tyson dont act like kj noons and be a punk…even though we all know u would get beat down jus like kj

diaz bros rule

Comment by RichFranklinFTW!
2008-09-18 00:10:06

in what part of the fight did kj get beat down? When he floored Diaz?

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 00:24:15

I think he was stating that KJ would get beat down in his opinion.

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 01:00:13

**would get beat down in a rematch**

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 01:53:05

I didn’t like Mac Danzig’s game plan, it’s like he took it for granted he could defend Guida’s takedowns, but once he was on the ground he was too comfortable hanging there and trying for submissions. Danzig should have been shooting and mixing it up and trying to pop up to his feet rather than try for submissions. Danzig’s intesity just wasn’t up to Guida’s level, I felt that Danzig could easily turn that corner in his next fight… I’m sure he’s going to learn a great deal from this.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-18 05:04:30

You may have been the only person besides Danzig’s mother to want to see him win. haha

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-09-18 11:09:03

huh

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 14:21:19

Actually, I like Guida better than Danzig, but I really thought Danzig would win. I was being anaylitical not picking favorites.

 
 
 
 
Comment by tuffguy01
2008-09-17 23:52:28

maybe houston should start rubbing his nipples..

Comment by BigRedOne
2008-09-18 00:09:32

ROFL… It’s amazing how quickly Houston Alexander has fallen from “greatness.” Enjoy your new gig at Strikeforce/EliteXC/Affliction/Whatever, doode, cause by tomorrow morning your new five fight UFC contract ain’t gonna be worth jack squat.

Comment by The Negation
2008-09-18 00:13:02

Well thanks to my boy Thiago Silva. He was the one who apparently stopped the “meteoric rise” of Houston Alexander by exposing the gaping hole in his ground game.

Off topic, Liddell’s gonna be here in Manila over the weekend. Hope I could get photographed next to the Iceman…!

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 00:26:03

I am thinking that Houston should either move down to middleweight or switch organizations. He may be getting old but he needs to work on his ground game if he wants to compete with the Elite. I thought he was going to get the knockout in the beginning.

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Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-18 05:11:43

I don’t think he could lose enough weight to make 185. The guy is pretty ripped. It almost seems like he doesn’t even want to learn how to fight on the ground, and instead only worked on takedown defense. It’s like he wants to fight like the old Chuck Liddel, making it impossible for someone to take you down, and only finish them with strikes. Unfortunately for Houston, I don’t see much Iceman in him.

 
Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-18 05:48:07

He looks like a turtle on its back when he gets taken down.

Gotta give schafer some credit though he took some big shots early on and weathered the storm.

I still think Dana will give Houston one more chance but his ground game needs some serious work and it just looks like he is too old to develop his skills there and relies too much on the big KO.

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 05:48:08

I am starting to lose interest in Houston just because it seems like he hasn’t worked on his ground game at all. Maybe there is more going on than what I am assuming, but the results would indicate otherwise. If Houston were to dehydrate himself enough, he could make the cut I think. Kind of like what Lesnar does.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2008-09-18 08:05:50

He either needs to move down to MW, or Joe Silva needs to stop putting him in there with BJJ guys. We all know he’s not going to be a champion. Rather than proving it to us over and over and over again, why don’t we just watch him fight other strikers so we can enjoy those matchups rather than watching him squirm on the ground like a fish out of water. It’s like watching a white belt vs. a black belt, and I don’t want to watch that anymore.

 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 08:35:23

In wrestling we have a name for guys like Houston. It’s “a fish”. For someone who can’t do anything on the mat other than flop around.

 
 
 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-18 01:16:20

Poor Houston… he just can’t get his ground game together. I have a feeling UFC will let him go soon, they keep moving him down a notch in fighter caliber, who’s left after Shaffer?

Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-18 05:12:34

Is Salmon still around?

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Comment by PW
2008-09-18 11:17:38

Yes, but speak quietly to him or you might startle him into unconsciousness.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-18 11:37:15

LMAO.
Ooooh, that was a GOOD one.

 
 
 
 
Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 00:03:34

I thought it was a really good night of fights. I knew Houston wouldn’t win. Then I thought of his family situation and I started to root for him. I really wished he could’ve held on for another 11 seconds. I guess that’s it for him. I really enjoyed the co-main events- action packed with 4 game fighters, gotta love it.

 
Comment by fightfan
2008-09-18 00:04:24

I missed the first few seconds……I caught it out of the side fo my eye. So dont know for sure…..Those knees from Houston legal???? From my glimpse of a view they looked illegal???

Anyone??

Comment by JV
2008-09-18 00:10:19

I just watched it again and it looks like one of Reds knees was on the ground both times.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 00:27:10

Yeah they looked illegal. That ref looked as if he was nervous or something. Like he went to do something but then he hesitated.

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Comment by RealDrew
2008-09-18 00:58:33

I actually rewinded it right after it happened. I can’t believe the the ref didn’t stop it. They were clearly illegal.

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Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 00:05:40

Hey- where was the big tribute to Evan Tanner? And where was Edith (again!), she’s missed that last 2 events.

Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 00:22:33

Dude! She’s all boobs (fake) with a face (real) that could stop a clock.

Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 00:55:12

I didn’t say she was hot, I was just wondering where the hell she was.

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Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-18 05:51:02

Apparently she had a showjumping tournament and hit her face off one of the bars and is waiting for the bruises to go down!

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Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 08:56:06

LOL!!!!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 00:20:14

Wow! Almost OD’ed on MMA tonight. strange how the free shows can sometimes be more interesting than the PPV’s. Good time at the bar, with more than a couple debates/arguements about boxing vs MMA, and some guy who said MMA was like fighting with no rules. Oh well, my thoughts on the evening.
1:Schafer exposed Alexander as a sloppy, one dimensional (a poor one dimensional at that) fighter. Was happy it happened, although it actually made me a little ill to root against a guy who is a single father of six! JESUS! Props to him for that. red withstood Houston’s predictable initial onslaught. I was going to give these guys new nicknames- Eric “I can’t punch or kick my way out of a wet paper bag” Schafer vs Houston “put that wet paper bag on me, and I can’t defend against it on the ground” Alexander.
2:I had picked belcher for this, not b/c I knew anything about him, but I simply dislike Herman. Well, that changed. Belcher simply isn’t good enough to showboat that much or be nicknamed “the talent”. Spending time in Thailand, I thought his Muy Thai would be MUCH sharper. Oh, and you would think he could’ve bought a pair of kickboxing shorts rather than roll his waistband down. Looked like he was wearing a diaper.
3:Guida. wow. That guy has a bottomless gas tank. Almost felt sorry for the vegan.
4:Neer never got to tee off like a lot of people thought he would. Nate fought well, and I was impressed with Neer’s BJJ defense.
5:TUF could be a good one this year!!! The guy that fainted looked like one tough little S.O.B. Glad the guy who compared himself to some of history’s biggest d-bags got whooped. And the kid who whooped him? He WILL be in the UFC whether he wins this or not. Big Boy Guida. Exactly what were you thinking not coming into this in shape? Let me guess. “I can work out tomorrow. Boy these double cheeseburgers are tasty.”
Anyway, I loved it all. Props to all fighters for a good show.

Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 01:06:41

Chef- Houston was exposed a long time ago, we have just been waiting for him to get fired. And TUF looks great this year. Jason Guida is a complete dumbass! What jackass shows up knowing you have to fight right away and you’re in shape? And has the nerve to bitch about it. Yeah buddy- it’s time to get a “real” job. I was glad to see Adolf Jr. go also. He definately lived up to his own hype. I was surprised about Joe Duarte- I heard so much buzz about him. Maybe someone gets injured and he comes back.

Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 06:57:04

I agree Houston got exposed a long time ago, DSmith. But I was really shocked recently on Mania with all the hype this guy was getting from some Maniacs, as if Houston’s gameplan wasn’t so transparent and predictable. Maybe now they see the light?

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Comment by Drew2
2008-09-18 07:56:51

Yeah, I heard the hype about Duarte as well and was expecting fireworks. My wife recorded the wrong channel so the only UFN I saw was Diaz vs. Neer. Man, they both looked real slippery. Quote of the night… “He has a better chance at getting me pregnant than winning this fight”! -Junie… I couldn’t stop laughing!!

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Comment by RealDrew
2008-09-18 01:11:03

Good post again Chef. I agree with all of your points. I liked Norva or whatever his name was. I also liked Junie, should be lots of fun watching him irritate the rest of the guys in the house.

LOL, wearing a diaper. Man, what the hell was up with Belcher’s shorts? I didn’t really care who won going in, but after seeing those shorts and watching him dance around I was pulling for Herman in the end. I guess Belcher is now on my list of guys I want to see get beat up.

Wanted to see Alexander win, but not suprised that he lost. What kind of training camp does he take part of? It doesn’t look like he trains for take down defense or jits at all. He’s done with the UFC. I guess he had his 15 minutes in the MMA spotlight. Godspeed Houston!

Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 09:02:29

I was waiting for Belcher to fix his diaper but it looks to me like maybe his shorts didn’t have slits on the side and he couldn’t get his muay thai kicks off. Or he likes wearing diapers. I was just afraid his nuts were going to fall out when they were on the ground.

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Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-18 06:00:25

I agree with your assessment of the night as those were my thoughts too.

Didn’t wanna read No.5 as I went to bed after Fight Night as it was 3.15am and I had work this morning (im fucking hanging now!!) but I knew if came in this discussion I was bound to read something!

 
 
Comment by Don
2008-09-18 00:25:38

Nate Diaz is pure class!!! He should be a speech instructor. Maybe Houston VS Kimbo is more realistic at this point. I would watch that fight

Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 09:03:22

Yeah, the Shaw’s wil feed him cans and will win every fight over there.

 
 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 00:31:04

I though Ed Herman won that fight. I guess it could have gone either way but in my opinion, Ed won. Did anyone else notice how classy Josh Neer was? He made a fan out of me tonight. He also put up a great fight. Props to Josh Neer.

 
Comment by Don
2008-09-18 01:01:42

Jesse Holland on the MMA radio show was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay OFF saying he saw Houston dominating the entire fight! And Eric running scared

Comment by Chase
2008-09-18 01:21:57

Jesse Holland got caught up in the hype like alot of others, Like I said, Him and Rumble Johnson are all hype, I’ll never feed into it. when he said 10 out of 10 I started to laugh, knowing Carono has more ground game then him. Sorry Jesse.

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-18 01:46:36

It just goes to show how unpredictable MMA really is. I thought that Houston was going to lose this fight personally. Anyone with a good ground game is a threat to him. If he could get good defense on the ground, takedown defense, and figure out how to stand fights back up, he could do much better. Sadly, he is getting older and he just had his 3rd loss in the UFC in a row all in the first round. If he can make the cut, I would urge him to drop to middleweight.

Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 07:00:04

The only way Houston could drop to MW is if they amputated one of his limbs. That guy is f’in HUGE. But maybe now he realizes he needs less “gym body” and more ground game. lol

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Comment by BLOodyMEss
2008-09-18 01:26:13

That’s funny how John was “Breaking the news” that the Stud Duarte will not be fighting for the ufc! Bummer. Maybe because he got smashed in the first round of the show by the guy who fainted. Keep the awesome inside info flowing!

Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-18 07:14:11

I was saying long ago its gonna be Junie Browning and although I haven’t seen the first episode yet I believe it still will be. He has very good potential.

 
 
Comment by pUniSHment
2008-09-18 01:55:20

I’m still pist about the Guida/Danzig fight. Guida spent the whole time trying to takedown Mac, but wasn’t really successful at doing so. And with the takedowns he did get, he did NO damage. At least the Kings of lay n Pray like Sherk and the evolving Rashad Evans provide elbows and ground n pound. People call Machida boring, but at least the dude does some damage to his opponents. Mac dominated whatever stand-up there was, and Guida gave TUF 6 winner a bear hug for 10 minutes. The truth is I don’t really care for Mac Danzig. I can’t stand his personality, but I felt sorry for the guy who was just being held against the cage the entire fight. I’m really glad that I didn’t bet on this fight because I would’ve bet on Danzig, and to see him lose in that fashion was a joke.

Comment by sinister
2008-09-18 07:53:36

i got lit up on the live results thread when i said the same things bro. lol

 
 
Comment by Chris Valentine
2008-09-18 01:55:35

I enjoy all of Nate Diaz’s fights. I like the Diaz brothers just for the heart they show in the cage. I think Nate is doing well, but I would hate to see him move up too quick and him lose some fights. I would not mind seeing him put a couple more bouts with Neer qualities. Sometimes I wonder if they move the fighters up before they are ready.

Later

Chris

 
Comment by sbud
2008-09-18 01:57:16

damn danzig got robbed. wtf did guida do to win the fight besides lay and pray? dazig sprawled almost every take down and even pulled guard numerous times.

Comment by pUniSHment
2008-09-18 02:06:16

At least lay n pray fighters like Sherk give elbows and attempt some ground n pound. Guida did neither. Is attempting to take down a fighter (and sometimes being successful) what we want to see in this sport. So what if Mac got taken down a few times, what damage was done to him? I was really excited to see this fight, but it’s probably the worst one all year(taking into consideration how good it was SUPPOSED to be). If Guida wants to win fights this way, he should be put on the undercard. I’d be a lot more pist off if I had to pay for this.

 
Comment by MongoMan
2008-09-18 02:13:48

I think I saw a completely different fight. Guida couldn’t get any really damaging offense off because Danzig is a truly excellent fighter. But he won the fight by controlling where it took place. He got several takedowns, and a few slams in rounds 2 & 3. And even when he wasn’t successful, he was forcing Danzig to defend, offense counts for more than defense, and attempted takedowns are offensive. Danzig will be back and I look forward to it. I’d like to see a rematch of these two someday, now that Danzig knows what Guida brings.

Comment by DSmith
2008-09-18 09:15:15

Let’s be honest- cardio, being able to control the pace of a fight and takedowns is all Guida has and last night he did it very well. Guida doesn’t finish any fight; his game plan is to control and out work you. He gets his points. I thought Danzig would be too strong, powerful and slick for him on the ground but the energizer bunny got the W. Funny thing is – I don’t think it damages Mac in anyway shape or form. For me this loss exposes nothing and doesn’t hurt him at all.

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Comment by KINGKONG9
2008-09-18 03:17:43

If Guida would’ve just jumped on his back and went for the anaconda he would’ve had Mac at the end. Guida was definatley dominating after the 1st roud, hes too strong and relentless….BUT HE NEEDS HANDS! or else he’s like the old KOS (sigh). Regardless, Guida whooped the hell outta gay ass Huerta until he got caught and Guida is LIKEABLE and good for MMA.

 
Comment by DJ
2008-09-18 06:05:04

Soooooo disappointed in Houston…..

Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 07:06:15

But were you really surprised?

 
Comment by RoB
2008-09-18 10:13:41

yees.. me too, he is a good guy.. but streetfighting doesn’t work against submission homo’s like Schafer.. it would have been funnier if they had matched him up with a standup guy

Comment by OJR
2008-09-18 11:06:39

Submission homo?

Hahahahaha!!!

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Comment by PW
2008-09-18 11:20:24

Yeah, it takes a freaking MAN to stand in there and punch a guy in the head and get punched in the head and punch the other dude in the head until someone goes to sleep. Only pussies and queers do stupid technical things like arm bars and chokes.

 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-18 11:53:16

Aaaaahahahahaha!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Big E
2008-09-18 10:22:00

Not Tyson Griffin man. Anyone but him. He would tear Nate a new one. I’m a fan of the Diaz boys (don’t know how anyone besides a straight-up whiner wouldn’t) but Tyson Griffin?? I see him putting the nail in that coffin.

Comment by ViolentMike
2008-09-18 11:17:49

THey used to train together, and Nate has been calling out Tyson since his first win after TUF.

Comment by ViolentMike
2008-09-18 11:18:10

but Tyson left…

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Comment by b.w.
2008-09-18 10:40:38

i was very impressed with guida’s performance, but think he is to small at lw. would love to see him challenge faber at 145. they fight quite a bit alike, but i think faber has better striking. could you imagine 5rnds of faber/guida?

Comment by Punk Rock Scott
2008-09-18 11:09:56

Clay Guida is just plain exciting to watch. Even if the dude never won a fight, I would want him fighting just because of his work ethic. He gives 100% 100% of the time. He lost to Huerta and bounces back with a pretty convincing win over Danzig which wasn’t an easy task by any stretch of the imagination.

I don’t know if my heart could take five rounds of faber v. guida. I’d probably have a heart attack or something would burst in my brain.

Comment by PW
2008-09-18 11:21:25

No worries there. Guida wouldn’t last five rounds with Faber, probably not even two.

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Comment by b.w.
2008-09-18 12:12:18

if jens could go 5, so could clay, and maybee win a rnd or two

 
 
 
 
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