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Sources close to Wanderlei Silva (32-8-1) have indicated that the explosive (and long-rumored) third showdown between “The Axe Murderer” and Quinton “Rampage” Jackson (28-7) is indeed set, according to MMACanada.net.

The blockbuster light heavyweight match up will co-headline UFC 91: “Couture vs. Lesnar” at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on November 15.

Bout agreements have been distributed to both fighters and are just now awaiting signatures. Representatives from Silva’s management team, however, indicate that the Brazilian camp will have its end of the agreement signed and completed by the end of the day.

“The Axe Murderer” and “Rampage” of course share quite a bit of history, fighting twice overseas in Japan under the Pride FC banner. Silva was victorious on both occasions and in rather convincing fashion — the fights ended with brutal knockouts.

Since that time, Jackson has indicated that he was not necessarily competing on a level playing field. He and/or his handlers have hinted at everything from unchecked steroid use to crooked officiating. One thing is for certain — Jackson is now a much improved fighter who is dedicated to training with partners who can elevate his game.

That was something that he was clearly missing in “The Land of the Rising Sun.” And now he gets to prove that with the right approach — and under strict supervision of a regulated sanctioning body — he can exact revenge once and for all.

Silva’s last appearance was an absolute mauling of “The Dean of Mean” Keith Jardine at UFC 84: “Ill Will” back in May. He definitely looked like the “Axe Murderer” of old with a quick and vicious knockout. For “Rampage,” this will mark his first fight after his highly publicized run-ins with the law and his subsequent split with long-time trainer, Juanito Ibarra.

He will also look to bounce back from his controversial unanimous decision loss to Forrest Griffin at UFC 86: “Jackson vs. Griffin” in July, which cost him his 205-pound title.

This is definitely a huge fight that the hardcore fans have been dreaming about — Silva and Jackson have an epic feud and a real distaste for one another. This should definitely be another instant classic.

To check out the latest UFC 91 fight card and rumors click here. This is already shaping up to be a downright monster pay-per-view (PPV) event.

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Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 15:21:10

How do you tink betting odds will open for this fight, anyone?

Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 15:21:29

By the way, I’m stoked!!

Comment by DDT
2008-09-11 15:32:17

Rampage -150

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Comment by brendan
2008-09-11 15:34:44

sounds about right, i bet it he could be more of a favorite even… maybe even -200

 
Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:35:52

No Way

 
Comment by YouTapped
2008-09-11 15:37:40

I have a very close/small over/under for this one.

I think the octagon favors Rampage, as Wandy won’t be able to corner Rampage as easily as in Pride/ring. Then again, its a coil flip once they go into clinch. Either a devastating Rampage uppercut or Wandy pulls out the MT clinch and sends Rampages jaw flying to the audience with a knee.

Fun match-up, I like them both. If Rampage loses, its two in a row, then a title shot is far far away. If Wandy wins, its two in a row, then a title shot is quite possible.

 
Comment by john
2008-09-11 16:31:43

As much as wanderlei has had success against Rampage out f the Tai clinch, I think wanderlei needs to stay away from the tai clinch this time around because I realy believe that Rampage will try to catch wanderlei’s leg when wanderlei tries to knee him, and turn it into a body slam. Both times Rampage lost to wanderlie, he unsuccessfully tried slamming wanderlei. If Wandy clinches, he is going to get slammed this time.

I willl be very happy once this fighht gets signed. Wandy is a very smart guy. He was obssessed with fighting on the December card, but now that Brock/Couture has been boked for November, its the new BIG EVENT of the year.

Can we order this ppv right now? lol

 
Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 16:32:58

I kinda hope Rampage is favored so I , intern, get a favored bet on Wandi to earn some nice change.

 
Comment by b.w.
2008-09-11 16:52:39

i like wandi in this one again. his conditioning has never been better, and training with team couture seems to have rejuvenated him. rampage has alot of obstacles to overcome with his loss to forrest and firing juanito and joining a new camp. not to mention his road rage incident. if rampage can over come these trials and beat a man who has beat him twice i will be awed. i dont think its gonna happen though. WAR WANDI!

 
Comment by brendan
2008-09-11 17:12:59

I think Rampage will be the favorite because he has a significant amount more octagon time then wandi has, and the public knows rampage much better than wanderlei i believe… this does not mean i believe rampage will win, just my reasoning behind the betting lines… if i were a bookie they would both be -120

 
Comment by Ultiamte Fighter
2008-09-11 22:10:48

I think that you are off your rocker about the public and these two fighters, my goodness. Wandi practically gets standing ovations when ever he comes out. Look at it from this perspective, rampage has lost to wandi twice quite brutally actually, rampage is in the midst of a legal battle, jackson has quite a few things to overcome in order for him to win this fight, leagal issuses and two brutal loses, no matter the fluff that rampage tries to make people believe about those fights in pride he got his arse handed to him twice, thats gotta play on a guys mind.

 
Comment by Ultiamte Fighter
2008-09-11 22:16:33

How can you say that rampage is better known than wandi in the states, do you see the applause that comes whenever wandi enters the ring.
No matter what fluff jackson tries to make people believe about those fights in pride he received two devastating loses. Don’t try and tell me that that will not play on him along with the legal issues that are in front of him right now, IMO jackson has too many things stacked against him to win this fight.

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-11 23:12:59

It’s been 4 yrs since Rampage’s last ass whuping’ by Wanderlei. There’s a lot on Rampage’s plate right now and he has to face a guy that’s given him some of the worst beatings he’s ever received, however, he’s a much better fighter from 4 yrs ago.

Rampage gets the ‘W’

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-12 01:00:39

This will be a good return fight possibly. A good motivator at least. I really hate this fight and love it. I am a fan of both of them. But it is a great fight that should happen. I can’t decide who I want to win though. I am leaning towards Rampage just because he has already lost to Wandi twice and this would be his second loss in a row….then again, Wandi just had his first win in the octagon. I wish this fight wasn’t happening now. I would prefer Rampage vs Shogun. They both just lost to Forrest.

 
Comment by Ca$z
2008-09-12 05:55:55

I think the deciding factor will be who is most aggressive in this one as we all know Wanderlei was and is at his most dangerous when he is angry.

they are both knockout merchants but a lot of Wanderlei’s fights come down to the fact that he will hurt you everywhere especially when he was in Pride where he would hurt you in the clinch, in the corner of the ring and then even when you tried to hide fom it on the ground he would start stomping and kicking people in the head and was a big part of his arsenal.

Because of this I think it will be a lot more evenly matched in this fight and as someone else mentioned I think it will better for Rampage for the fight being in a cage over a ring. This will be very tough to pick a winner.

This is gonna be huge and even though it is only a 3 round fight I dont see it lasting that long anyway.

Fight of the night for sure!

 
 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 16:50:23

dude, I told you about this fight going down way back when Thiago got injured and everyone was looking for an opponent for Machida and even prior to that I incorrectly thought it would take place at 92 when the Couture/Lesnar news came out.

Just thought I’d throw that out there and try and get some props for once…

BTW, Rampage takes this by KO in the 3rd. He only really got whooped in the first fight back when he didn’t have proper training camp. Even in the 2nd fight he didn’t, but he was fighting hurt and because of the ref and the ropes, etc. he lost that one too. Rampage is a completely different fighter and he is more than anxious to get back on the winning side of things. He’s going to be down right scary as this fight approaches, guarantee it!

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Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 18:24:01

Still think he’ll get his ass kicked Again.

 
Comment by SkeletonKey
2008-09-11 20:08:25

Definitely respect your take Anthony, but I gotta disagree. I think a lot of people make too much of the ‘Rampage is an entirely different fighter…’ theory, especially in the case of a possible match-up with Wand.

First, I really need someone to help clear up this ‘much improved fighter’ thing. It isn’t that I don’t think Rampage has certainly evolved from his first fights under the Pride banner, but the argument that he has improved so tremendously since he last fought Wand doesn’t hold as much water with me.

He gave an (in all honesty) understandably mediocre performance in his octagon debut, with a win nevertheless, over a less than game Eastman. His performance against Liddell can only be assessed from a ridiculously quick flash knockout which didn’t give us any real indication of how that match could have unfolded in the later rounds. He went to a decision with Henderson (what fighter from Pride HASN’T…) in what was Hendo’s first fight back in the UFC in years, and finally a close (read: really, really close) fight with Griffin.

I’ll concede that we’ve seen some improvement since Rampage’ earliest fights in Pride (though his destruction of Arona was certainly more impressive than anything he’s done yet in the octagon, in my opinion) but not to the extent I think a lot of Rampage fans would like to believe.

Then you have Wandy, who really needs no credibility defense. His initial fight back in the UFC against Chuck was a loss, of course, but he still looked pretty damn good. Not many guys can stand up and take that kind of beating while still pushing forward. You have to also give the guy credit as he was coming in to Chuck’s house as it were and fighting in an unfamiliar octagon (both mental stigmas which clearly affected his nerves and game plan). I think, fairly, every Pride fighter has to be given some exception for their first fight in the UFC simply for the need to get adjusted to the changes. His second fight, however, came as very little surprise to a lot of people.

People will argue that Jardine has a much weaker strike defense and chin than Rampage, and I’d agree. But I don’t know if that is entirely what that match, or any Wanderlei victory for that matter, boiled down to. Commonly, what you’ll find is that the opponents that have beaten Wandy in the past were either a) freakishly good strikers who delivered a KO most others couldn’t dream of, or b) a fighter who has the mental toughness to not scratch their game plan when Wandy turns into the “Axe Murderer”. Henderson is one of these fighters.

I don’t think that Rampage has that mental toughness, especially now. If Griffin’s slow and calculated performance got Rampage confused and off-game, what do you think is going to happen (for a third time…) when Wanderlei comes with a flurry of Muay Thai as he more than often does?

Bottom line I think is that this fight is going to whoever is more able of delivering that flash KO strike, which will set up the finishing strikes and subsequent referee stoppage. Sure, they’re both capable, but who’s proven that they can deliver that strike to the other, and who seems more mentally focused right now?

Someone would be silly to put the money down on Jackson in November.

 
Comment by yohnstoppable
2008-09-11 22:31:33

I agree with Skeletonkey. In all honesty, I DON’T think Rampage has improved as a fighter. He beat Chuck, who he had already beaten, barely won a fight with Lindland I thought he lost, beat an outmatched Eastman, and lost to Forrest who he was supposed to run over. IMO his only impressive performance was vs Hendo, who Rampage was a good style matchup for in the first place.

His boxing doesn’t look any different than it used to be. He was always a solid wrestler that was VERY strong. And he still covers up in the same manner that allows fighters like Silva, Shogun, and Ninja to easily clinch with him and administer a ton of knees.

Watch Rampage vs Shogun to see what I’m talking about. Shogun throws a few punches and instantly clinches when Page covers up. The chute box (well, former chute box) fighters have Page figured out.

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2008-09-11 22:32:26

Very well put, a brilliant account

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2008-09-11 23:34:03

Jackson’s boxing looks better, it’s not as wild and much more accurate, his knowledge has greatly increased from 4 yrs ago. The 2004 fight Jackson lost to Wanderlei he had a very promising 1st rnd before he gassed out in the second. Jackson ‘Fasted’ for 3 days prior to the fight… ‘yeah’ he’s kinda nuts’

I don’t believe Jackson’s trainers are going to let him make those same mistakes and watch him get pummled with knees over n’ over… ‘yeah’ Jackson is definitely left of center, but I gotta’ go with him for the ‘W’ this one.

BTW, I like Rampage, but would be happy if Wanderlei won, he’s a lot of fun to watch fight and he seems like a really great guy.

 
 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-11 16:51:14

Wow (sarcasm), maybe this can co- main event with franklin vs Silva. I just have NO interest in either one of these.

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Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 17:23:35

You have no interest in this fight? I am confused???

 
Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 17:28:28

Really? You might be one out of the few who would agree, but I think the majority might disagree with you. I mean, so much has changed since they’ve fought, it’s nowhere along the lines of Franklin vs Silva because of how much time has passed for each fighter to evolve. Trust me, this will be way different fight than what went down in Pride.

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 18:32:35

couldn’t agree more. I would just forget those fights ever happened if I were you. Personally, I already have…

wait, what fights? huh?

 
Comment by NameNotRequired
2008-09-11 19:02:41

Agreed, Rampage got stomped out twice. Clear cut winner with no questions left. Shogun rematch or machida would be more interesting at this point. What a waste but it get Wand closer to a title shot in shorter amt of time so whatever i guess.

 
Comment by Tim
2008-09-11 22:29:20

People are actually discussing who would win Rampage vs Wandy III.

Do you honestly think that’s comparable to Franklin vs Silva? Does anyone think Franklin would come close to beating Silva?

Your lack of interest in the fight has a somewhat obvious implication that you think the fight will turn out the same way as the first two fights.
Did you even watch the second fight? It’s hard to say that Rampage was losing the fight prior to the fight-ending knee. He had Wanderlei in trouble as well. Franklin posed no threat to Wanderlei at all.

Besides, the fights were awesome.

 
Comment by Tim
2008-09-11 22:29:57

People are actually discussing who would win Rampage vs Wandy III.

Do you honestly think that’s comparable to Franklin vs Silva? Does anyone think Franklin would come close to beating Silva?

Your lack of interest in the fight has a somewhat obvious implication that you think the fight will turn out the same way as the first two fights.
Did you even watch the second fight? It’s hard to say that Rampage was losing the fight prior to the fight-ending knee. He had Wanderlei in trouble as well. Franklin posed no threat to Anderson at all.

Besides, the fights were awesome/entertaining.

 
Comment by yohnstoppable
2008-09-11 22:33:26

Brutal finishes or not, the 2 fights they had were exciting as hell. These weren’t completely one sided fights like Franklin/Silva, Tito/Chuck, or Tito/Shamrock. This is a rivalry that has 2 of the most exciting mma fights of all time in it. I’d say it is the greatest rivalry in mma history to be honest.

Silva by KO in the third, btw.

 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-09-12 07:08:44

I guess the reason I posted that is that I’m not sold on Rampage’s mental stability as of yet. Maybe hoping for a tune up fight before he faces the likes of Silva. To get beat by Forrest, cheated by his “friend” and trainer Ibarra, and then have to face Wanderlei? Tough stuff. He must have b@lls the size of churchbells. Just not sure this is all that SMART of a fight for him to take at this point.

 
 
 
2008-09-11 17:07:03

ken shamrock sounds serious. sherdog has a press conference with him and kimbo…I’ll be laying the max betus of 500 (pretty lame max bet) on kenny!!

Comment by roy
2008-09-11 18:29:20

wow its been a long time since i would think putting money on ken would be a good idea

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Comment by Shogun1a
2008-09-11 22:58:13

Good to know this fight is gonna possibly happen

 
 
Comment by Dr_D_Sanchez
2008-09-11 15:23:28

Hells Yes!!!

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2008-09-11 15:24:04

No way will Rampage lose this fight for a 3rd time. I just dont see it. Winner gets Griffin/Evans? Or Lyoto finally get his shot.

Comment by skoler1
2008-09-11 15:40:00

3rd times a charm….and machida wont get a title shot hes very technical but very boring to watch….he only has a hand full of fans and the ufc sees that not to bash him but a least engage in the fight…its funny when he says “I WANT TO KNOCK HIM OUT” lol…yeah right he does the same thing all the time…even when he submited soko he laid on him for like 3 minutes….even joe rogan apoligized to the crowed for the BORING FIGHTS…of the night….

Comment by MMACrossfire
2008-09-11 22:36:11

skoler1 – You definitely don’t remember the Machida vs. Soku fight. Machida dropped Soku with a punch, then sunk in the choke. I predicted that scenario, except I predicted it would happen in the 3rd round, not the 2nd… lucky guess.

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Comment by O damn he got caught
2008-09-11 16:44:45

Could turn out like Sakuraba, 3rd times just another beating…

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-12 01:02:13

One of these guys should fight Lyoto. Maybe the winner?

 
 
Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:24:46

I’m Taking Wandi- Again -Ko Again-

 
Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:28:13

Wandeco by murder in the first degree!

Comment by JV
2008-09-11 15:31:30

I agree!!!

 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-11 15:31:39

Any idea why they have serious beef with each other?

Comment by JV
2008-09-11 15:38:26

It says above about Rampage and his camp hinting, steroids and crooked officiating. Plus 2 vicious KO’s that Wandy handed him lol!

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Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:40:38

Rampage’s Mouth After the First fight.

 
Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:44:39

That only came after they both left Pride. The reason they have so much hate is because Rampage called out wandy before the Pride GP and was basically pointing to his d*ck, and wandy got really p*ssed. He ran inside the ring and pushed page and everybody had to break them up. After that they were always talking sh*t about themselves to the cameras. Rampage feels that wandy thinks everybody should be scared of him, and wandy feels that page does not respect him as a fighter. And the rest is history :)

 
Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:49:49

good videos to check out on the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_CWX14vA5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iye2baw64eg

there was one with the full incident from beginning to end, but can’t find it and I don’t have the time anymore :(

 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-11 15:51:43

That’s the 411! Thanks, linx. Cool inside stuff.

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 17:01:45

linx, that second video is bomb! Can’t wait to see the countdown videos for this fight!! War Rampage!!!

 
 
 
Comment by Brian "Bisping-Hater"
2008-09-11 17:27:05

Man. This may be the end of Rampage. Then who’s nutz will some of you hug?

Comment by Egads
2008-09-11 22:07:22

hug mine, theres plenty to share

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Comment by JV
2008-09-11 15:30:34

Monster PPV is right! Wanderlei is getting his ear bit off. But the fight will end with Wandy standing over Rampage for the 3rd time!!!

Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 15:32:08

LMAO at the Tyson refrences.

 
 
Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 15:30:44

NICE!!!!! I don’t how anybody thinks Rampage will win this fight, all things considered.

Comment by OJR
2008-09-11 15:43:52

Truth.

Comment by roy
2008-09-11 15:59:16

yeah i love this fight but i think it may be bad timing for rampage to fight wandy right now

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Comment by wAyNe
2008-09-11 15:31:38

205 division hurts my brain!

Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 18:42:54

Word.

 
Comment by Ground-Game
2008-09-11 19:28:51

LOL!

 
 
Comment by matt
2008-09-11 15:32:01

ill take rampage in this time around i think he has improved alot since their last show down and i think wandy is the same fighter but on the decline while rampage is at his peak right now.

Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:53:32

there is also the problem with his new camp and also the court issues… I’m still thinking this will play a factor.

Comment by b.w.
2008-09-11 16:55:16

ME TOO! as posted above.

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Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 17:04:16

fine, think it will be a factor. Better money for me on the Rampage bets and when he wins I’ll be coming here telling you “I told you so!” Rampage ain’t even thinking about that shit right now. Rampage wants to get back in the ring and show his fans that that loss was a fluke, kill Wanderlei and get his belt back. This is personal for Rampage in this 3rd fight. I think we see a whole new Rampage in this one, and that’s some scary shit.

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Comment by linx
2008-09-11 17:14:55

LOL, he’s going to prove the loss to griffin was a fluke by beating wandy? good luck is all I can say :)

 
Comment by enzo-enormous
2008-09-11 17:18:10

I don’t understand how anyone can think it was a fluke. Griffin was the clear winner. Straight up.

 
Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 17:21:41

The only thing that is scary about Rampage lately, is him behind the wheel of a car. Seriously, there is not 1 positive thing I can think of in Rampages favor that leads me to believe he can or will win this fight. Help me out, what is it specifically that makes you think he will win????? All the things you listed you are clearly speculating what he is thinking. I can list facts, so what is it?

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 17:33:59

fine.

all you haters will be proved wrong…

 
Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 17:41:38

You do realize that this is a forum where we debate, right? If all you come with is “fine” I will be sure to never respond to 1 of your posts again.

 
Comment by matt
2008-09-11 17:50:47

i think if wandy loses we will see a chuck vs. wandy two with the loser ending his career cause both of these fighters have been losing alot recently after their long reigns of success.

 
Comment by john
2008-09-11 18:30:56

LMAO, He said “FINE” like he was a salty kid who took his ball home so no one could play with it! LMAO!!!

BNF: ia m not going to sit here and tell you that I know who is winning this fight because I have NO idea. I am a Bigtime fan of both fighters so I really dont care who wins as long as the winner gets Forrest!

What I do know is that Rampage is going to SLAM wanderlie. I dont know if it will end the fight or not, but I promise you that wanderlei is getting BOdy slammed or Suplexed, Bet my house on it! In both their previous fights Rampage tried to slam wandy but was unsuccessful, this time he will Do it! I have a feeling wandy will slap the tai clinch on Rampage and as Wandy brings his knee up to blast rampage, rampage will catch the leg and turn it into a body slam. THat is the perfect defense against knees out of the tai clinch (if you have that kind of power) which Rampage does (damn I should be a trainer) lol.

no matter what it will be an EPIC battle. I am just going to bet the underdog, whoever he is and sit back and enjoy a fight I have been waiting years to see

 
Comment by john
2008-09-11 18:32:52

Another way of trying to get out of the Tai clinch, is to circle your way out while trying to shake the guy off your neck. Franklin had some success with that in his 2nd fight vs. Anderson. Rampage should win this fight as long as he can stay away from eating wanderlei’s knees!

I dont know who to root for

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 18:34:50

fine

lmao, maybe i just like saying fine rather than arguing with people that seem to be as stubborn as I am about the way fights are going to go.

 
Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 18:39:44

Y is A getting all butt hurt. y would they have a retirement match this isn’t wwe

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-09-11 19:07:56

It’s kind of funny how john makes fun of a guy for saying ‘fine’ when he (john) frequently uses the phrase ‘hi hater’

 
Comment by john
2008-09-12 06:57:10

its even funnier how u are obssessed with me

 
 
 
 
Comment by rob
2008-09-11 15:33:15

i hope wandy knocks him the f… out. it’s gonna be great either way.

 
Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:34:12

Just A Question If Rampage loses Then Comes Back Wins Agains I don’t know Someone like a top ten. then gets beat again are people going to want him to quit.hahha

 
Comment by rob
2008-09-11 15:34:52

so who rua gonna fight?

Comment by McArthur
2008-09-11 15:36:37

hopefully Chuck

Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:38:42

Or Sokogu

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Comment by b.w.
2008-09-11 16:57:00

soku would make sense, but so would machida imo. both would be great fights.

 
 
 
Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 15:37:29

One guess. He has A Mo hawk And a tat on his skull

Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-11 18:46:23

James Thompson??

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Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:55:42

supposedly machida…

Comment by rob
2008-09-11 16:32:03

really. that would cool if it was on the same card

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Comment by chris
2008-09-11 16:37:41

Yep Machida vs Shogun, that the rumor at least.

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Comment by brendan
2008-09-11 17:15:13

nice, Shogun has perfect style to beat Machida, well rounded brutal assauult!

 
Comment by MMACrossfire
2008-09-12 06:21:10

brendan – Shogun has the perfect style to get his ass handed to him by Machida.

 
Comment by rob
2008-09-12 09:18:15

doesn’t sound like that’s happening anyway

 
 
 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 17:05:30

Soko baby!!

 
 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-09-11 15:36:40

Im going with Wandy. He will knock Rampage the f*uck out, again. As for the accusations Rampage made against Wandy, I kind of find it hard to believe a guy that also accused the Devil of going after Brian. I’m just saying.

Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:56:14

LOL, so true!

Comment by roy
2008-09-11 16:02:20

its funny how everyone in pride is accused of taking steroids but rampage, he looks as big as the next guy.

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Comment by linx
2008-09-11 16:07:36

not only that, page is also the only one who bad mouths Pride, no one else who came from there bad mouths it…

 
Comment by dave
2008-09-12 01:49:04

Well, I must say I’ve thought of it. Wandi and Shogun are my favorite fighters, but Wandi doesn’t seem quite as hefty in the UFC, and well Shogun looked a shadow of his former self. Not sure what it is, but Page’s power looks pretty natural to me, and he’d have been caught by now if he was doping.

One thing that has me thinking is that they don’t stand the fight up as quickly in the UFC as they did in Pride, which definitely plays to Rampage’s favor. I also think that Page has learned to defend the clinch since then. I think it’s going to be fairly even.

 
Comment by roy
2008-09-12 10:29:35

i think your wrong dave look at that picture above, wandy looks alot bigger now than in pride.don’t you think rampage looks bigger does that mean he is juicing.

 
 
 
 
Comment by OJR
2008-09-11 15:36:55

This is nuts. ‘Page is coming off of legal problems, emotional problems and a very flat performance v. Griffin. He has changed camps to boot.

I thought Dana LIKED ‘Page. LOL.

Factors weigh in Wandy’s favor…

Comment by BNF
2008-09-11 15:42:03

Couldn’t agree more!

 
Comment by linx
2008-09-11 15:58:06

wandy will knock him da f.u.c.k out! every single time wandy knocked someone before, the latter times is always more brutal than the previous, and with all the problems rampage has been having… I just can’t picture how bad he’ll fall. probably worse than chuck LOL.

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-09-11 16:01:14

Rampage is going to need cash. Win or lose, either way he gets paid.

Comment by OJR
2008-09-11 16:23:14

True but if I were ‘Page I would rather fight Machida than Wandy…

Machida will not be looking to cripple ‘Page.

Wandy, on the other hand…

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Comment by roy
2008-09-11 17:41:15

thats true maybe machida will out point him but he is not going to take his head off.

 
 
 
 
Comment by CLETIS
2008-09-11 15:37:30

this is risky for page. If he loses this could really hurt his chances of ever getting another shot at the title. he has improved his game alot which should help him immensely. he really took a beating in the other matches, but wanderlei looks a little less crisp than he did, i don’t think it has anything to do with steroids, but more to do with his age catching up to him. Page seems to have trouble with technical fighters that can stick to a fight plan. if wandy keeps it on the feet i have to believe he has a 90% chance of winning. If rampage can get it on the ground i have to give him a 75% chance of winning. either way i think it will be an awesome fight if page can stay away from those vicious Knees.

 
Comment by GregC
2008-09-11 15:39:14

Great fight, one the fans definitely want to see. I think the winner of this fight should be one win away from a title shot, with Machida getting a shot after Evans provided that he wins his next fight. What about Machida vs. Shogun?

 
Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-11 15:39:24

I think rampage will win… as a matter of fact i have 30 bucks on him.

Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-11 20:47:16

30 bucks that u will be loseing to me lol.

 
 
Comment by eightyproof
2008-09-11 15:40:47

Wasnt a split decision, twas a UD.

 
Comment by hughes
2008-09-11 15:50:03

i’m a huge fan of both fighters so i’m to bothered who wins, i just wanna see a war. If I had to pick a winner I’d have to go with rampage because he is so much improved from the last two times they fought and I’m not sure that silva has improved as much as rampage, although sill has the ability to win. I could see silva winning if rampage goes in scared of the clinch (which i wouldn’t blame him after the last time). i’m calling rampage by UD. This is going to be an amazing card

 
Comment by Jizzo
2008-09-11 15:50:08

this is the next step in rampages downward spiral.

 
Comment by Power Puncher
2008-09-11 15:51:04

I wonder if Rampage will flip out and side-swipe a pregnant woman after losing this fight?

Comment by Anthony
2008-09-12 10:56:28

that wasn’t even close to funny

 
 
Comment by RoB
2008-09-11 15:56:30

Rampage needs to go for the kill and take him out!!.. this will be so niice

 
Comment by VNDK8
2008-09-11 15:57:45

Dana was right, this fight will definitely make 91 the biggest PPV in UFC history.

 
Comment by System
2008-09-11 15:58:42

3rd times a charm. Rampage is going to destroy Silva. GUARANTEED.

 
Comment by Hardcase
2008-09-11 16:04:43

silva loses by fanboy delusion, KO by belief that ramp is anywhere near the same fighter who cannot defend knees and has to deal with stupid fucking ringropes.

 
Comment by storhaug
2008-09-11 16:13:50

mania, typo-was a unanimous decision to griffin.

 
Comment by bryant
2008-09-11 16:16:33

i think wandy has his number but besides these two matches the pay per view will suck

Comment by dandeman
2008-09-11 16:23:33

Hey, these are the only two matches we know of, how do you know the rest is going to suck?

Comment by b.w.
2008-09-11 19:12:45

BRYANT. kenny florian vs joe stevenson will not suck,i can gurantee you that.

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Comment by b.w.
2008-09-11 20:06:21

niethter will the barncat vs mclovin. this card is STACKED!

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-09-12 10:57:38

neither will seeing Gonzaga continue his rise in the HW division

 
 
 
Comment by Jrandolph
2008-09-11 20:08:22

I have given up on trying to prematurely judge one event or the other as “sucky” or not. Some of the best fights have come from guys that I thought would be a snore fest. However, if the three big fights live up to half the hype, it should be a great night.

 
 
Comment by DirtyML
2008-09-11 16:18:48

I know one thing, it will be one of the best staredowns in UFC history.

UFC 91 is gonna be bananas.

 
Comment by Colin D
2008-09-11 16:37:03

this fight ends by ko for sure unless page decides to wrestle.

 
Comment by LJ
2008-09-11 16:45:51

AH Hell YEAH!!!! WANDY IN THE CLINCH!!! KO BY KNEE!!!!!! Deja Vu for Rampage. No, either way it’s going to be a great fight and can really go both ways. What a great card! Why did they have to move it out of Portland. I would have been on the floor for this card.

 
Comment by GEEZZZZ
2008-09-11 17:01:51

okay Rampage time for revenge…..YEAH

 
Comment by Space
2008-09-11 17:02:05

The area where Rampage was dominating Wanderlei in their first two fights was in takedowns and ground and pound. Silva is at Xtreme Couture now, working with Forrest and Randy. Not only will they come up with a great gameplan that involves a lot of leg kicks, but will work on his takedown defense.

I have Wanderlei winning again, but not as brutally as the first two times.

 
Comment by Jay
2008-09-11 17:02:09

I can bet you it would be shogun not wandy. I read an interview article with dana, and he says rampage would get first shot at forrest but due to his legal issues, he’s fighting shogun because it would mess things up if he wins the title back

 
Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-11 17:28:07

This wuld be the biggest event ever.
Rampage vs silva
Couture vs lesnar

HUGE EVENT!!

Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-12 14:17:24

I hope they don’t give Rampage to shogun, cause page is just going to win this time around they need to let wandi devastate page real quick so I can win some money and let shogun go about his business. I don’t care they what they do with shogun give him to Machida or Rashad but plz for the love of God don’t put them in there with page when he is hungry. that takes a whole other kind of beast. that takes a AXE MURDERER.

Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-12 15:40:58

Hey i have bad news… call my cell dude,

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Comment by markg
2008-09-11 18:27:30

awsome event if this fight goes ahead.

 
Comment by DB
2008-09-11 18:28:16

Is it November yet?

Comment by DBG
2008-09-11 18:48:08

Yea Im ready for The rachel leah playboy issue

 
 
Comment by KAS
2008-09-11 18:51:41

Man..I didn’t wanna lose another mma fighter this year after evan tanner..RIP Page..

Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-11 19:23:23

wandi will be going down in this one

Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-12 14:18:12

no way.

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Comment by Anthony
2008-09-11 20:37:23

that wasn’t funny

 
 
Comment by Big E
2008-09-11 19:07:33

Man I hate that Brazilians refuse to fight one another. All I want to see is Shogun vs. Silva. What’s their problem?? Don’t people realize the only way to be the best fighter is to face any opponent set forth before them?? Why doesn’t the UFC jump and say “I don’t care what nationality you are, you’re fighting this dude”.

Comment by p
2008-09-11 19:23:01

it’s not because they’re brazilians but they trained together for years at chute boxe camp.

 
 
Comment by dave
2008-09-11 19:26:06

go wandy i hope he wins this fight and gets a shot at the title

 
Comment by Ground-Game
2008-09-11 19:30:11

Page is due!

 
Comment by RR #1
2008-09-11 19:45:02

wandi looked dominate in his last fight i think he may take it again , i like both fighters but i would like to see rampage loose two in a row just to show that forest didnt win by luck. wandi is the ax murder for real, wandi will win it for E.T. R.I.P.

 
Comment by mmaaddict
2008-09-11 20:19:50

Hey is Shogun just damaged goods or is he ever going to fight again alot of hype around this guy and a whole lotta nothing so far. I know he tore his ACL but I thought he would be back by now.

 
 
Comment by iced liddell
2008-09-11 20:45:55

There are so many rumors

wanderlei vs. rampage
shogun vs. rampage

see to beleive!

 
Comment by iced liddell
2008-09-11 21:05:09

i’ll beleive this fight is happening when the bell sounds, ya know what I mean?

 
Comment by adil
2008-09-11 23:12:52

Rampage dosent stand a chance.Dana should give him 2 or 3 easy wins and then he could fight wandy. If he has two losses in a row he is going to lose his confidence.

 
Comment by dave
2008-09-12 01:55:55

Yikes. I don’t really want to see either win. And the UFC doesn’t force anyone to fight anyone, they offer fights and fighters can accept and reject the offer. They don’t usually reject it unless there’s a really good reason, otherwise the UFC just doesn’t offer anymore fights.

One major difference is that they don’t stand them up in the UFC like they did in Pride. Page was doing damage on the ground but the ref stood them up, and that’s when Wandi took over.

I don’t think Wandi looks as big in the UFC either, but I’m definitely rooting for an axe murder.

 
Comment by suckerpuncheater
2008-09-12 06:03:48

same as before Wandy KO Round 1

 
Comment by Aaron_W
2008-09-12 08:23:29

Wandi by brutal KO in the 3rd. It will be similar to the 2 pride fights where he just left Rampage is heap lying tangled up in the ropes unconscious, except this time it will be in the middle of the ring. I don’t recall any dodgy officiating in those two fights so I’m chalking that up to Rampage trying to make himself look better after being humiliated like that. As fast as Rampage’s star rose it will not fall.

WAR WANDERLEI!!!! Getting the LH belt in 2009!!!!

 
Comment by brac
2008-09-12 08:39:25

Man I can’t wait to see this fight. I just wish it was a 5 rounder. It might not last 1 round but it would be nice if it were schedueled for 5 just in case!

 
Comment by E. Fairway
2008-09-12 10:16:05

If this fight goes down with Couture vs. Lesnar, it will be one of the best cards that the UFC has put on in along time. It will be a pay-per-view worth getting.

 
Comment by HALE UK
2008-09-12 12:19:54

im pumped about this fight!!! but would of liked to see jardine v rampage as there both comin off two big loses. wanderlei by ok 2nd round.

Comment by RoB
2008-09-12 15:39:49

ok, but Rampage would have killed him.. also the idea of putting to fighters that lost their previous fight is not good business.

 
 
Comment by Chadx23
2008-09-12 12:37:57

I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS!!! This one ends in a brutal KO fo sho!

 
Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-12 14:22:27

Screw shogun this is the fight they need to make shogun is coming off that lackluster loss let him fight Liddel and get knocked out by him.

I love shogun in all but it is obvious by my name I want wandi in this one he deserves it way more and I already have money set on it from like a year ago.

Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-12 16:04:41

which u r going to lose….

Comment by dalton baker
2008-09-12 23:09:33

i think rampage will come out ready to deliver, hes going to wup that ass, fo show. i think rampage is going to be able to defend and avoid wandi’s clinch, and think that there stand up in this fight will be equal, but when it hits the ground i think rampage has a definint advantage. I think rampage will dominate the whole fight with his well-rounded game, i think page has an answer for watever wandi throws at him and see him winning by either ud or ko in the 3rd.

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Comment by Craig
2008-09-13 02:34:03

Wandi by KO in the 2nd…

 
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