Event: UFC 94: “St. Pierre vs. Penn 2″
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2008, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV)
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada
Main event:
UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre vs. UFC Lightweight Champion B.J. Penn in a 170-pound title bout
Main card (Televised):
205 lbs.: Lyoto Machida (13-0) vs. Thiago Silva (13-0)
205 lbs.: Stephan Bonnar (11-4) vs. Jon Jones (6-0)
170 lbs.: Jon Fitch (17-3) vs. Akihiro Gono (29-13-7)
170 lbs.: Karo Parisyan (18-5) vs. Dong Hyun “Stun Gun” Kim (11-0-1)*
155 lbs.: Nate Diaz (10-2) vs. TBA*
Under card (May not be broadcast):
155 lbs.: Manny Gamburyan vs. Thiago Tavares
170 lbs.: Matt “No Regard” Arroyo (3-2) vs. Daniel Cramer (0-0)*
*Fight not yet officially confirmed by UFC.com.
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So excited for this fight, could go either way. Im canadian so if gsp wins it ill be happy but bj penn is among my top 5 fav fighters so as long as the fight is exciting ill be happy
I’m not from Canada but I like these two guys too. I’m hoping for a great fight.
LETS GO BJ!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got BJ by 4th round rear naked choke. If GSP wins, it will be by decision. I don’t think GSP will be able to finish him (BJ has been finished only ONCE in his career after he got injured), but he has the ability to do just enough to win at least 3 rounds.
what the heck? 4th round? i doubt BJ will even be able to answer the bell for the fourth round, let alone choke GSP out… if BJ wins its in the first or second
george wont be answering the bell between the 4th and 5th, george doesnt have the skills to last 5 rounds with bj. george is a great fighter but bj is on a level of his own lets see george move up and down in weight. hes never done maybe 185 it is my dream match up and should be an instant classic
I agree with most of your post dave except i dont see BJ finishing George faster then he finished Sherk and even with Hughes the 2nd time (although out of shape) without the injury it would have probably atleast went into the fourth, Matt hung in there and George has twice as much heart and will as Matt (as shown in the first Penn fight) Near the end of the 4th, RNC, BOOM!
Well for starters saying that that Matt Hugues has less heart that GSP is way off. Matt is one of the greatest fighters to ever step in the octagon and help put ufc on the map along with evan tanner randy couture and a few others. Now i see this fight being a great match up between 2 amazing fighters. This fight has could end early or be a 5 round war. Now BJ is a great fighter but i think gaining 15 pounds and still having to train everyday will take its toll. niether fighter is has the condtioning it takes to last 5 rounds but i wouldhave to say GSP takes this one even thou i like BJ Penn better… Surprise me BJ!
He doesnt have to put on 15 pounds dude . . . forget it, ill informed.
This fight won’t go to decision! I see GSP finishing this one in the 4th round by TKO. BJ won’t be able to take GSP down so if it goes to the ground GSP will be pounding on BJ and since GSP’s Gn’P is conservative Bj won’t be able to catch GSP in a submission. if BJ gets close to a sub GSP will be able to power out. BJ’s cardio is better than the first time they fought but GSP has gotten better in every way (don’t think BJ will be able to handle the pace GSP sets for long). GSP’s striking is better than BJ’s plus GSP has the size and reach advantage (think he’s faster as well). GSP from bell to bell! BJ should stay at lightweight where he will reign supreme for a long time. But the welterweight division belongs to GSP. Either way this should be a great fight between the 2nd and 3rd pound for pound fighters in the world! Got to say i also want GSP to win because after this win he will get a shot at Anderson Silva’s middleweight title in what would be another amazing superfight. save comments on that one ’till the contracts are signed.
Cause it will be BJ signing that contract with Ando, not George.
Dana White announced a few weeks ago that BJ Penn will not fight Anderson Silva no matter what type of fit BJ throws. You must have missed that article.
I dont care what Dana says, just like BJ, thats why.
I hope BJ kicks the shit out of St Pierre.This fight i am so excited to see,two fighters at the top of their game and a whole bunch of fan trash talking this early. This is mma at its finest not fuckin wwe superstar vs an almost 50 year old has been.Randy ruled back in the day but this is a new era of fighters.Anyone excited about the prospect of liddell vs silva.Interesting isnt it. maybe feb 21st
BJ is going to get beat down like a redheaded step child.
probably worse…
I expect another razor-thin split decision, hopefully in BJ’s favor this time
BJ’s going to be too big (fat) and he’ll gas and lose. He’s great where he’s at right now at 155lbs. He should stay down there and dominate until retirement. He’s one of the great phenoms along with Miguel Torres, Uriah Faber, GSP, and Anderson Silva.
Of course in BJ’s favor!!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
GSP by 4th round TKO
1: GSP and B.J. Penn are great fighters. This will be a war of cardio and talent. I think at 170 lbs. GSP will have the cardio and B.J. will have the talent. Remember, during the first match it was a RAZOR thin decision for GSP, and 170 is not BJ’s natural fighting weight. He is a threat (and champ) at 155. I watched GSP tear through Matt (overrated) Hughes. I watched him tear through Matt (one time) Serrra. But when is the last time GSP has fought a REAL contender?
2: B.J. Penn has outboxed the best including Jens Pulver who has been deemed the best straight up boxer in the division. He beat the shit out of Joe Stevenson. For sure. And I dont know if anybody remembers this, but he has beaten Matt Hughes. And he is just getting better.
I think they are both GREAT fighters but when you think about it, B.J. Penn is just better that GSP. I may be wrong, and if I am, then rip me a new one, but until then, watch B.J. own two belts for the first time EVER!
To answer your question: August 9th, 2008.
you said Matt Hughes was overrated when it comes to GSP beating him but you still state his name in wins that apparently are legit for BJ? make sense please. and Matt Serra isnt any worse than Joe “suddenly amazing” Stevenson.
BJ , i like him but hes too cocky and hopefully that will be his downfall. and if you actually want to break it down then in my mind GSP has the slight edge on paper but its debatable either way i guess. one thing i can say for sure is GSP likes to push the pace and already has a win over Penn. i think Penn wanted this fight too soon and may be talking too much. should be a war either way. GO GSP!!
Because the Hughes BJ beat was the best Hughes to enter the octagon (throughout Hughes’s career) and he Hughes that GSP beat was outdated. Not to mention BJ is not a nat 170er so that adds to it and that GSP has a huge height and reach advantage over Hughes and pretty much every 170er out there. Too bad GSP cant finish any one that stands over 5′11, decision after decision if he isnt half a foot taller than his opponent and armed with at least and 8 inch reach advantage. While BJ goes all the up to 205 and is undefeated at 185 against 2 Gracies . . . Wouldnt that new black belt make GSP somewhat a Gracie now . . . In Hawaii, besides “the Prodigy”, they call BJ the Gracie Killer since he beat both those Gracies in Hawaii for all his people to see. Add Serra to that list of Gracies to huh, thats 3, GSP is just another one about to bite the dust.
And whats funny, is that besides Serra, George is the smallest of the four Gracies = ) Maybe the best of the four Gracies, but not the strongest or the biggest in any catagory. And BJ was doing all that Gracies whoopin when he was out of shape, now, its a wash. Lamb to slaughter. BJ BJ BJ!!!
What are we talking about here, Jiu-Jitsu or MMA? Unless you’re talking about Rixson or Royce, Gracie is just a name in the MMA world. IF we’re talking about pure grappling that may be a different story. SInce when does height or reach matter when it comes to grappling anyway? Also, everyone is talking about BJ outboxing everybody…Pulver, pretty sure he submitted him…Sherk, well hes about 5′5″ with a reach of about 40 inches. Stevenson, got submitted. I cant see anything happening in this fight except a standup battle with the occasional takedown by GSP, But it will be incredibly hard to do much damage to BJ even on the ground. All GSP has to do is stay away from the jab. GSP should win it in the championship rounds. IT was a great thing for GSp to go 5 rounds with Fitch, it shows his cardio and mind are both right
Did he not out box Pulver for the few seconds they stood, as well Stevenson got peppered while standing with Penn in the 2nd, he out boxed Sean for 15 straight minutes, he outboxed Rodrigo Gracie at 185 (while out of shape) for 15 minutes, KO’d Uno, Standing Knee for Thomas, Gomi ate it in the clinch, Hughes was outboxed tilthe 3rd (injury) in the second fight, in the first fight it was a punch that won BJ the belt not th RNC, AND GEORGE DEFINITLY GOT OUTBOXED!!!! For one round atleast, but its not like George went on to outbox BJ after that, BJ just got tired, George didnt do anything to BJ, not a scratch. Thats why people say BJ has hands, the submissions usually come after he outboxes someone and drops ‘em, what else can he do, say “get up, i have to keep boxing you or people will only my BJJ, its not my fault my punches are fucking devistating!” NO! He goes down and finishes, something George should learn a little about, finishing.
Again you show your ingnorance when you say GSP has decision after decision against guys over 5′11″. He decisioned Fitch and Miller. What the hell does height have to do with it? Don’t you think Fitch’s CHIN had a little something to do with the fact it went to a decision. Do your research, GSP has MORE finishes than BJ.
Kos as well.
how about fich?
. . . Ummm, yep, didnt finish Fitch either . . . even though the chance presented itself several times. Yep, Fitch to buddy . . . <—- Loaded.
I don’t know what the point of your theory is, BJ is 5′9″ and GSP has FINISHED plenty guys around that height. Have you noticed there’re very few guys over 5′11″ in the WW division anyhow so you have a MOOT point.
gsp and bj are both finishers. whether or not they do it often is irrelevant. but i don’t see gsp finishing bj in this fight. i thnk bj’s defense is gonna be too strong for gsp. but gsp pace is what’s gonna win him this fight. i am a bj fan so my heart is betting on bj. my mind however is going with gsp split decision. he’ll stay busier like the 1st fight…spend alot of time on top in bj’s sick active guard, not do much damage but will eke out the decision victory.
You have to give it up for Fitch though. He’s got one hell of a chin and took the beating. Not many fighters could take the shots delivered to Fitchs face for 5 rounds…I gotta go with my heart on this one. GSP, probably gonna be a decision. I just bought tickets and I can’t wait.
I think BJ is a way different fighter, as is St. Pierre. BJ is the only fight at 170 IMO, That can stop Georges takedown.
Hold on a second, did you guys forget that bj also lost to matt hughes by TKO, in there second fight. GSP in the first fight against Matt he was destroying him until he made a stupid mistake.Anyway GSP just destroyed one of the toughest guys at 170, Fitch could be a 185 fighter.The first time GSP fought BJ it was a close fight and everybody is saying how good BJ is now compared to then but look how amazing GSP is compared to then. GSP beats everybody at there own game.
I like BJ alot but he wont be able to handle the pressure and pace that GSP will set. This fight will go the distance becuase they are so evenly matched but GSP will control the whole fight.
GSP!!!!!!!!!
In the Penn Hughes 2 fight, Penn was destraying Hughes untill he gassed out.
Broke ribs, torn stomach muscles, and tired ass hell, Hughes is lucky and he knows that, ask him or read his book dude, do something, just update your knowledge before you type again. Everyone but you seems to know what would happen if Hughes and BJ squared off again (especially for the way Matt decided to get his TKO) Im sure of all the people BJ wants to fight, the GSP’s, the Lyotto’s, Hughes is wanted most, and will get the worst beating of them all, maybe even a broken limb for what he did, we’ll see im sure.
excuses excuses adam… theyre like assholes, everyone has them and they all stink… quit crying he got beat fair and square, shoulda spent more time in the gym then at dunkin donuts
Check the MRI’s and xrays (im sure you can find them somewhere, they were available a few years ago) no donuts, actual injury, but whatever you say man, Matt slaughtered him from the first bell lol, just like GSP, from the first bell BJ didnt have a chance, he’s outclassed, out of his league . . . HA!! Hella lame with the excuses analogy, BJ has none now huh, thats why he had to hunt your boy down, without BJ this fight wouldnt even be happening, your boy is satisfied with that razor thin W and doesnt care if people think he should fight BJ again to settle it, lame!!!! Or Scared . . .
BJ in the 2sd round by submission. this time he is more prepare with better condition, this would make the difference from the first fight
simple and to the point. But id say 4th round sub victory. Hes not goning to finish George faster than he finished Sean, but he will finish George, just like the last 3 fights, a finisher.
IF BJ makes it to the 4th round hell be too gassed to do anything… defending GSP takedowns in round 1 and 2 will tire him and hell get beat to a pulp rounds 3-5
BJ Penn 13-4-1 (29)
Georges St.Pierre 17-2 Age (27)
GSP has accomplished more wins with a better record at a younger age.
BJ Vs. Matt Hughes 1-1
Georges St.-Pierre Vs. Matt Hughes 2-1
Enough said. But incase thats not enough for you, GSP is a pure athlete he could outlast BJ like 5 times over. GSP only gets better and better everytime he fights. Not taking anything away from BJ, he is a great fighter who has lately matured from his old cocky self. GSP is 10 times better than when they last fought. BJ while better can’t get much better than he already his and has been, the only change that made him any better was him taking opponents seriously. I think GSP by TKO. BJ is only better in BJJ, he is a wizard on the ground, no doubt. GSP is better at everything else, he is the best wrestler in MMA, he has way better cardio, and he can outstrike BJ anyday.
LoL, Joe stevenson 30something and less than 10 losses
Sean Sherk 30something with less than 5 losses
YOU and YOUR math make no sense dude, sorry.
Heres some math for you; GSP punched in the face in GSPENN1= between 25 and 35 strikes from Penn.
Amount of times BJ Penn was punched in the face= 0.
Amount of nights GSP spent in the hospital= 2.
Amount of seconds BJ Penn spent in the hospital= 0.
GSP’sbroken bones= 1 (nose)
BJ’s broken bones . . . LMAO!!! Come on, you have to hit the guy first. My math = correct. YOUR math . . . not so much dude.
dude! did you not even watch the fitch and gsp match?? sure, penn beat sean sherk, but look at the reach advantage and the fact that sherk sucks. st. pierre is the better fighter all the way. get over it. penn wont touch em.
GSP had the reach on Penn and didnt touch him, isnt that right. But yea, im sure the guy that hasnt let an opponent leave the ring (win or lose) without being covered in his own blood in pretty much every fight of his entire career (including if not the worst, George St Pierre) wont even “touch George”, right man, way to be realistic. And whos comparing GSP to Sean Sherk . . .? Just you dude . . . George always has a reach advantage no matter what, thats what happens when you’re a natural 185er and you fight guys that are natural 155ers, you take an advantage into the octagon, something George doesnt often fight without, while BJ will give up to 30 pounds and several inches to anyone that wants a slice, thats the kind of fighter i like, but thats just me.
I know you have trouble seeing things realistically, but this takes the cake. You acutally think BJ hit GSP in the face 25-35 times and GSP never hit BJ in the face once, LMFAO. Here’s a little satistic (the ONLY one that counts) to add to your list, times GSP WON that fight= 1
Times BJ won that fight=ZERO.
Well played = )
Bj Faught Matt when he was in his prime. Georges only beat Matt when he was starting to lose it, then again when he didn’t even belong on the same stage as Georges. so i dont think you can compare each fighter by there record against hughes. BJ 3rd RNC or maybe Gogaplata (nearly caught him with it in the 1st fight)
LMAO, Who do you think was the one who made Matt start to lose. You do realize that same washed up hughes you speak of, beat BJ, RIGHT?
Penn vs Matt Serra 1-0
GSP vs Matt Serra 2-1
Two more for ya . . Amount of times GSP showed that he’d rather hug Penn then trade punches with him= 3-4.
Amount of blood loss (all) from 4 of the 6 holes in GSPs head (too bad ears dont often bleed huh, would have been 6 for 6)= roughly 2.5 pints. Would have been less if GSP could have went a full round without breaking his nose and geting a cut on his forhead, and getting poked/punched/blackened both of his eyes. Its called head movement, tell George to get some so he can go into the 2nd round unscaved and make this thing interesting. . . Whats the point huh, BJ’s never lost a 1st round in his career at 4 of 5 weight classes, and only lost one second round (to George)(barely) while out of shape LoL, its a wash.
And BJ is a champ in two weight classes, in georges weight class LoL, and he became that champ a long time agao dude, as a kid, at like 24, come on!!! Who has accomplished more??? Not to mention that GSP just got his Black belt in BJJ LoLLLL, BJ has been a master 10th degree black belt for over a decade and its validated by his gold medal from the mundials, you know, the most important BJJ comp on the planet . . . ANd he did that as a kid also, at around 21 bro, George didnt even have his yellow belt in 2000, wasnt even a spec on the map in 2000 LoL, i say BJ has accomplished more, 2 belts should say that right, 2 or 1, which number is higher 2 or 1??? Not to mention the mundials, fighting at 4 weight classes etc etc etc . . . But George did beat Matt Serra, pretty tuff to do huh . . .
Who gives a shit about belts? BJ is an insanely awewome grappler, but that black belt at 21 years old (or all 10 degrees of it..which is bullshit by the way) didnt help him when he lost to Pulver, Hughes, or GSP (and a draw to Caol Uno?) BJ lost to Hughes not even 2 years ago, which was his first fight after fighting GSP…so lets not dismiss the Hughes that GSP beat as pathetic. GSP made him look pathetic but thats only because GSP is that much better (Alves is better too). Bj will have to bring more than his jab to win, and all that talk about broken noses and lost blood ( in the first round no less) only further proves why GSP had every reason to lose but still won the last two rounds. What’s going to happen when he soesnt have to deal with getting hit in a broken nose and cut…hell dominate. I still can only see a decision though unless BJ gasses out again.
Come on Adam, you know BJ’s WW belt is a JOKE. What other champion has 2 LOSSES and his ONLY win is getting the belt. I’d put him in the Serra champion catagory. You must think Serra accomplished a lot too, with his UNEARNED title shot. GSP accomplished beating the whole WW division (minus Alves). BJ accomplished beating Hughes to get his belt and then he LOST to Hughes. It doesn’t take much to impress you does it. If you want to say anything possitive about BJ, you should steer clear of the WW division, because the little bit he has accomplished has been negated and then some, 1 win, 2 losses= NEGATIVE accomplishments. All that has to be said about GSP’s accomplishments ,is he has beaten EVERYONE he’s faced. What more can one accomplish.
Oh Gord, BJ’s WLWT belt is a joke now huh . . . Whats that gonna make GSP when BJ takes it back? The biggest joke ever huh, since he lost his belt to the 2 biggest joke WLWT champions of all time, making him the biggest joke of all time, no? We’ll see bro.
But i guess all that matters is this one;
Amount of rounds won by GSP = 2
Amount won by Penn = 1.
Ill give you GSP fans that and its actually the only number that matters so it should leave you feeling warm and fuzzy inside . . . til Jan.
holy crap!!! adamG, you’re on a ROLL!
brah, bruddah BJ PENN will toy around with GSP until the third or fourth round, then finishing GSP via submission. this is only my prediction.
BJ all the way!!!!!
gsp beat sean sherk in the second round 8 mins into the fight.
gsp made sean drop down a weight divison bj penn said it himself before his fight with sean when he said he will have enough cardio to finish the fight.
bj penn beat sherk just before the bell at the end of the 3rd round.
GSP WINS over top opponents
fitch,hughes,serra,koscheck bj penn,sean sherk, frank trigg,and karo parisyon.
BJ PENN WINS
sean sherk,hughes, serra (bearly)
ps gsp finished all 3 of these guys
gsp all the way
GSP also lost to two of those guys in that list. GSP will be fighting his biggest challenge, a motivated and focused BJ Penn, who has the time to put the weight on right. In my opinion cardio won’t even play a factor, I think GSP is going to get caught in this fight.
WE should really stop talking about BJ being able to put the weight on in the right way and that 155 is his normal weight…he has stated himself that he hates the cut to 155 since he walks around at like 190 (lets be honest, he was a pudge in the ring after the GSp fitch fight) Theres no reason to make the weight a built in excuse if he loses already , especially when BJ is calling GSP out and already won the 170 belt
Adam G. did gsp beat penn last time they fought? yes he did so who gives a shit about who broke bones and who spent nights in the hospital. i’m betting those nights gsp spent in the hospital were after a win? right? that just goes to show the heart the gsp has that penn doesent. penn can be push to the point in where he will quit which happens to be the thing gsp is best at. gsp will be able to stop penn from takin him down and will beat him in the stand up. as far as you “doing your math” goes look at some of the ppl sherk and stevenson have fought u idiot. everyone gsp have beaten the ufc was either a contender at the time or a top fighter in his weight class. last fight penn had at 170 he gased badly, thats not going to happen to gsp. penn has improved but as much as gsp? not even close lol. i hope penn isent training to hard for this fight cuz its not going to last long. gsp is gonna mop the floor with him.
Bet your screen name on George then with me James. George loses and it changes to something along the lines of BJPENN.COM or BJ’s#1Nuthugger etc, youcan cange mine to whatever you want as well, deal? Im sure your confident with your fighter and everyone on this site knows im confident with mine (check the archives bitch, ive been here for a couple years now newbee so dont call me an idiot) When was it that BJ quit?? Oh yea when he broke his ribs and ripped his stomach muscles in a 2nd round but still came out for the 3rd . . . Oh yea, when he quit LoL. I think you’re referng to when George tapped that mat, twice, once via Matt Serra (WTF!) Are you serious? So George quit 2 times and BJ quit how manytimes . . .0 . .Yep i think 0 dude, sorry. Not even in a Matt Hughes crucifix, still didnt say stop to Big John, thats not quiting, thats heart (and some stupidity) but mostly heart. BJ’s arm could have been on the line instead and he would have let Matt take it home with him, no quiting here buddy, you should check BJ’s archives as well kid, learn something about him before you trade opinions aabout him. BJ BJ BJ!!!
All loses via decision (besides Hughes2 which i just explained above, no quiting, tapping, KO’s etc) George loves to tap out!
BJ PENN AND REGAN PENN (BJJ)
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293:Video:371940
BJ PENN Discuses GSP Gameplan With Trainers . . .
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293:Video:370853
GSP Talks Fitch, Penn, Silva, and P4P List . . .
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293%3AVideo%3A308155
How in the hell to Karo and Manny get so many fights? And why in the hell is Karo on the main card??? Fitch vs. Sanchez #2 would be nice to see!
I’d rather see Fitch beat up Karo
Holy shite (adam G) you know you stuff on bj penn!!!! I don’t agree at all with your logic and if ufc 58 was a 5 rounder it wouldn’t have been a spit decision it would have been a majority in gsp’s favor. I agree penn is hard to stop by ko or submission but I still see gsp winning a majority decision or winning by tko in the later rounds come ufc 94. I would laugh my ass off if an exhausted penn got subbed in the later rounds, it would make my night, there would be a suicide alert going out for all the penn nut huggers out there LOL. I was really surprised when gsp subbed hughes, penn is better than gsp on his back but I feel right now thats his only advantage over him, gsp will be in top position for most of this fight other than exchanges on there feet where I feel gsp will dominate if he can avoid the eye poke :P, I wasn’t impressed with penn in his fight with sherk at all.
Gsp will win this fight, just my opinion but nobody really knows, which is why MMA is such a great sport, there are upsets on every ufc event too many to count.
Yea people talk alot about who GSP has faced lately and who Penn has faced as of late and all i have to say to that is that he didnt want to face these chumps, joe, sean, jans, but what can he do. He can call out George since the day after thir first fight and hope fate takes care of the rest, hes done what Dana has asked (kind of, but for BJ he has done enough) SO its not like he was thinking man these guys are some tuff comp, hes thinking this is what i have to do to get back to George and get MY belt back, looking to fight the best but stuck fighting the lesser, nothing he can do but what hes done and thanks to BJ and BJ ONLY we get to see the rematch. And because hes BEYOND dedicated to this fight especially, things should be interesting for more than the first 3 minutes. Remember, George did win, but barely, hes gotten better all around, but BJ didnt really need to improve, just be in shape and focused so he can do what he does already but for much longer = )
And i think he was waiting for another take down attempt from Sean for a large part of the fight, ready to defend it. But once he settled in he went for the clinch, a take down of his own attempted, then the combo a la the kneecap finish, i think he really wanted to make sure he won those opening rounds and a take down can sway judges ;P as history has shown. Caution is all, respecting another mans take down abilitys is somthing BJ takes to heart, especially after GSP1.
And you’re wrong my friend, if UFC 58 was a 5 rounder, George would have finished BJ, period. Good thing thats in the past and its an entirely new day, an entirely new BJ (mind and body). But im sure that George has written BJ name on a rock and tossed it into a river like he did for Serra so you GSP fans shouldnt have much to worry about = ) (And stop calling us nuthuggers dude, i refer to you (GSP fans) as just that, fans) Argue your points, when youve run out of arguements, shut up (not you, in general), listen, read, research, do something, but dont resort to that shit, i can see the sweat on your brow when you do, nervous? I would be nervous if i started to see the light that you guys do in George, id be really nervous. . . Name calling might be necessary . . . If i were nervous, friend = )
Dude you deff have a man crush on bj!!!
Its gonna be a great fight…Neither will dominate because there both very evenly matched…
You think too highly of bj and underestimate gsp way too much.
just watch what happens when they fight it will be a war but gsp will control penn from top position most of the fight and win a decision… I dont see either of them finishing this fight..
A guy like you probably doesnt even read what i write except the opening lines, Im ready to watch bro, been ready for almost 3 years now, so has my fighter (BJ). I give tons of credit to George dude, you really dont even read what people write huh, just cut and paste one time that i underestimate George . . . And you can never think too highly of BJ Penn, best fighter in the world. But since you’re soooo sensitive, BJ BJ BJ!!! George George George!!! Guess we cant have favs anymore, fans should be distributed evenly, dude, stand up for your fighter instead of atacking me, well, it is George so i see where you’re coming from, not having anything to say and all.
Im actually not a big gsp fan but i just dont think bj is gonna beat him… george has improved alot since there last fight which he won and all bj has done is finally get in shape.. So i think an improved gsp beats a in shape bj.
Not stops him cause bj is crazy but he will control him for most of the fight and he might even win the stand up exchanges, not realy sure about that last part though.
And i looked again and i still dont see much credit for gsp just alot of bj penn love. which is cool man he’s your guy, but dont act like your not biased… I know i am with my fav fighters.
But whats the deal with george winning gets him a shot at the spider and if bj wins he cant fight silva???
And i still think you have a man crush on bj!! lol
Yeah man I think both Penn and GSP fans can agree that is a BS double standard.
He’ll fight ‘em, you’ll see.
I think Dana said that because he would expect BJ to defend both belts at least once before going after the spider.
GSP by TKO in the 4th! Penn will come in with a lot better cardio then in their first meeting, but that will be the only difference. Meanwhile GSP will show up with improved strikes, improved wrestling, improved GnP and the knowledge that he can endure a 5 round war with the toughest WWs in the world. I see things being very close for the first 2 rounds and then Penn fades in the 3rd and gets mauled in the 4th.
BJ Penn Training (Plyometrics) (10/21/08)
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293:Video:388146
BJ Penn and Charuto (BJJ)
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293%3AVideo%3A383206
I know going to say who is going to win this fight. But i going to say who has the advantage in this fight and its gsp. Gsp is bigger stronger faster and has a longer reach. I say gsp has the advantage because he can dictate where the fight goes. Is bj penn going to take gsp down lol hell no. If gsp wants the fight on the ground he can take it to the ground. If he wants to stand and bang he can bang. And bjpenn its hard to submit a guy from your back so you better be practicin reversals. Is gsp going to get caught in a guillotine triangle or armbar hell no he got a black belt in jits sorry.
Yall people that Say Gsp is gonna lose must be out of your mind Bj is not on another level He is on a light weight level Where Gsp is on any level he wants to be on… Have we forgotten that Bj penn Has had fights with sean sherk and Jens pulver When gsp has faced fighters like Jon fitch and future hall of Famer Matt hughes And Josh Koscheck and ohh Bj penn Even though it went to a spilt decison he still has a win And trust me If gsp Is on his Game He Is Ten times better then bj penn…. Gsp Will Win and then He will fight Alves which I think would be a better fight then him and Bj
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