“Who would have expected that? And Chuck is still out!”
– UFC commentator Joe Rogan comments on the unbelievable result at UFC 88: “Breakthrough” tonight when Rashad Evans iced Chuck Liddell with an absolutely devastating overhand right to knockout the former light heavyweight champion. And he was out for a very long time. Wow … stunning. Seriously fucking stunning.
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Why is it stunning? Chuck drops his left when he throws his right. Rampage caught him and now Rashad caught him. It’s the scouting report on Chuck and anytime he fights a puncher they will be looking for that.
someone said to me that chucks never gonna win the title again, but i thought it was to early to tell when he said that. but it’s always the same thing with him, like bill said everyone knows what he’s gonna do cause he seems to do the same freaking thing every time he fights. i just don’t see him getting back to the top again.
MMA WAS JUST ON ESPN’S TICKER AT THE BOTTOM. it may not sound big,but that was the 1rst time id ever seen it. they showed rashad over chuck,franklin over hamil and hendo over palhares and used sherdawgs rankings. it shows that mma has arrived!
Bill Chuchk has been doing that for years but its only been the past year that he has lost by dropping his left, so thats not the reason.
There are 2 reasons why he is losing which is the same for Hughes.
1. He had become so good at striking that he stopped using or developing other weapons (like Hughes did with wrestling).
2. The fear is no longer in his opponents everyone knows he can be beat.
Number 2 is the main reason in my opinion, Hughes and Lidell seemed invincible even in the mind of their opponents, now that has changed it a whole different ball game
they showed the chuck/rashad highlight (singular) as well but pronounced rashad as ray-shad. dumba$$es
WOW! that is big
Did everyone see Bill Gates’ mugshot on Rashad’s t-shirt? Frickin hilarious. Here’s the mugshot in case you didn’t know it was Bill Gates.
http://www.technicallyforeign.com/tblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gates.jpg
RedDog- hahaha I noticed that too. Is that real mugshot or what? I have seen that picture on the internet but I never knew anything about it’s origin.
Haha! i thought it was just some kid! I didn’t see that it was a sniveling Bill gates!
It’s a real mugshot from when he was like 17 or 18. He was arrested on wreckless driving charges in New Mexico.
agree fully. i don’t think its his age. i never liked Chuck’s stance, but didn’t want to say anything and look like an idiot cuz he always knocked fools out. YOU CAN”T HAVE THAT LEFT HAND DOWN! Boxers will exploit that sutff! Rashad was so quick and had the perfect gameplan by dancing with his goofy style and luring chuck in. He timed that overhand right perfectly cuz i don’t remember seeing anything else come over the top. SIDENOTE: I think that raises TITO ORTIZ’S STOCK!!! TITO! TITO! TITO!
1. I broke down 3 minutes prior to the ppv and bought it
2. mma is on the ticker sometimes, last week it announced couture.
3. what a good ppv.
4. full write up mon.
5. my bad, fertitta will be doing john’s interview
6. GO PATS
RASHAD “NIPPLE TWISTER” EVANS!
Whats up with the Rashad nipple twisting?!?!?!
it juices up his right hand!
Speaking of juicing up, I don’t think Rashad uses steroids, and certainly am not a conspiracy type, but does anyone else notice that Rashad seems to have a little gynecomastia?
I think the proper medical term is “bitch tits”
U mad he beat your boy Chuck
probably just easts alot of hormone induced chicken hell alot of guys have bitch tits when the stop weight training. ie tim sylvia, babalu, lindland and others
LMAO! that was to freaking funny, i knew someone was gonna say something about that lol
SERIOUSLY, if you are getting into a street fight, and the guy you are about to fight starts twisting his nipples… RUN!
It’s probly a new greg jackson thing! Expect Jardine to use it against vera.
Yea what is up with that! That is too weird!!!
The octagon is not the place to be licking your fingers and twisting your nipples…it worked!!!
Kinda sucks when Rashad didnt do anything the whole fight then pulled that out of his ass.
well i think rashad did just enough he was get chuck irritated with all the dancing around he was doing and that just made chuck rush everything and hardly connect anything …so id have to say rashad followed game plan ….jacksons camp owns the pit …..good fight tho looking forward to see if chuck will jump back on the horse and ride again ….and lets see if rashad gets a title shot bc they were talking about giving chuck a shot if he would of won ……
Fah you
He backed up because you can not beat chuck by running at him. Chuck is a counter puncher. It was genius if you ask me.
i was shocked, huge chuck fan, he should consider retirement, but something tells me he wont want to go out like that!!
I am a huge fan and I feel the same way. Also, like c-war said, that was really the only major offensive move that Rashad made the whole fight. He never did a thing in round 1.
I think Chuck may have used up all he had left in his fight with Wandy. He seemed to revert right back to the same style he used against Jardine, just looking for the knock out punch, and didn’t think that Rashad could hurt him. Why else would he lead with an uppercut?
Exactly, i thought he learned to stop going low without setting it up first. I also missed the KO because my douche friend distracted me. Pointless watching it on replay, It’s never the same after every in the room experiences that first shock.
rashad is gona be lhw champ bitch
That’s very possible. How bout Rich Franklin getting thrown into the mix? He looked impressive as well. Just think, Rashad was Franklin’s student on TUF!
Rashad should be LHW champ b!tch so that his ass could get set up Thiago Silva! They could go toe-to-toe, or I want Thiago to end it on the ground. If it’s the Dragon, doesn’t matter. Rashad will earn his 1st loss soon, trust me. His showboating should be toned down a notch or two. No fu**in’ respect. When Chuck went down, he did a reaction that seemed to say, “Well I don’t know what happend”, and did a gasping-like gesture while stepping backwards. I mean, WTF was that all about?!?
Rashad was doig his RED FOX impersonation.
Negation, don’t be bitter bro, Chuck does his own yelling and screaming after a win as well. It was his Red Foxx thing, pretending a heart attack cuz he just gave the crowd one!
Yeah, I was giving Evans a chance of winning, but buy split decision, never ever ever did I expect Rashad Evans knocking out Liddell. Fucking impressive, give that man a title shot!
I was rooting for Chuck, but (for no reason at all) picked Rashad. F’in shame I didnt bet on it.
i posted on the blog they had that rashad was gonna win via K.O because of chucks wide punching, and i love prooving everybody wrong. rashad is the underdog in all of his fights and even though some are boring he still has the srategy to get the job done. so i dont care how fucking boring the first round was because chuck didnt do jack shit either, so another great victiry for the future H.O.F
Liddells had a great career (and I’m a big fan) but let’s face it…what young hungry guy can he beat? He won’t earn another title shot. He should either retire or take a fight with someone like Rich Franklin which would be a nice fight for the fans.Like I sai, I’m a Chuck fan and I love watching him fight…but I don’t want to see him get punished like that again. He’s had a great career and he should retire. I counter Rashad out in this one and I was wrong. Shows again that Liddell’s philosophy of being willing to take one to give one just doesn’t cut it since the sport and it’s fighters have evolved so much. Thanks for the memories and all the great fights Iceman.
He won’t EARN another title shot, but that doesn’t mean he won’t get one with a win over somebody on the fringes of the top 10. He’ll still sell a lot of PPVs with a title fight, and that trumps less known fighters (Machida) who should be in front of him.
I’m the first to say I thought Chuck would knock Rashad out. But for anyone to say that was a lucky punch you’re crazy. Watch the replay, Rashad’s eyes were wide open and his timing was impeccable. Sorry Chuck your times up.
I am not saying it was a lucky punch, just that it was almost his only punch.
That was the best ko from a punch in the ufc, chuck got nailed from a clean over hand right couldnt have done it better himself. i dont call that a lucky shot.
That WAS a very good shot. I also think Rich Franklin’s left to the jaw of Nate “Rock” Quarry deserves to be mentioned in that discussion. Quarry dropped like a stone statue being pushed over where he proceded to shake on the ground in an almost seizure-like state. Rashad might have possibly topped it.
damn rashad has to get a title shot now.. and how about nate the great
I honestly would love to see Rashad fight Wandy.
putting it simply, i was f****** stunned as a mullet when it happened. i thought chuck would correct his mistake of dropping his left hand, i was wrong.
Yah, the way Chuck holds his hands is perfect for someone as fast as Evans. I don’t think Chuck respected Evans’ power so he wasn’t worried about his speed. He should have prepared for both because it bit him in the ass. (Greg Jackson’s camp is just an awesome camp)
holy shit he cracked him perfectly
at first I thought it was a typing error when I saw that rashad won. Im just shocked that liddell was out cold for like a couple minutes or thats what i heard.
You heard right…He was out for a long time compared to most KO’s. He dropped like a boneless fillet. It seemed to me that Chuck and Rashad were both playing the same game. Both were just waiting to land that perfect shot. Both threw punches at the same time….Chucks punch hit Rashad in the arm pit…unfortunately for Chuck Rashads punch landed flush on the jaw after a direct flight from freakin’ Omaha….
chucks way too slow
TITLE SHOT…..? WHY NOT+ EVANS PUFFY NIPPLES SUPERPOWER
QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS:
In your opinion, what WOULD be the biggest upset in UFC history?
GSP – SERRA I (GSP was an enormous favorite, nobody was giving Serra a chance)
SILVA – COTE (Assuming that Cote manages to win)
I’m just wondering because this seems like the biggest 1 sided fight we’ve seen in a while. I’m actually one of the few to give Cote a chance in this. I mean, if you just go out there and throw huge bombs, you are at least giving yourself a small chance to win; and I think Cote will be looking to throw some.
Serra all the way. I would have bet my dick he would have lost to GSP in that fight, and I am glad that I did not. haha
lmao. nice.
How about Rashad vs Liddell. I mean seriously, I gave Serra a puncher’s chance during his 1st GSP fight. But this one, I totally counted Rashad out. The lesson of underestimation doesn’t really stick with me[even if it's one of the deadliest mistakes to make when sizin' up someone]. IMO, Chuck underestimated Rashad’s stand-up, BIGTIME!!
Actually it would be Cote. People were all over GSP saying he was mentally weak, couldn’t handle the pressure, etc., because he had the belt and never successfully defended it. No one has ever uttered such a peep about Anderson so if he were to lose…
Chuck is a brawler…Sugar is a boxer well i should say has a boxing technique…Chuck will win a fight against a brawler not against some who has good boxing…and that was a great game plan Greg Jackson put together keep chuck moving dont let him tee off on you in the pocket!…Chuck needs to fight either Alexander or Irvin next…He needs a win…From what I heard that maybe anderson silva…in all honesty anderson would do a hell of a lot better than Rashad…I dont want to hear how he got caught…If the right wouldnt had landed the left sure would have…And Chucks upper cut would have hit the shoulder!…Chuck is too slow…
As hard as those two guys hit, neither of them would be a guaranteed W.
Wow.. what was said during the post fight interview? Was Chuck even awake in time for it?
chuck was up but didnt give one. they had to almost carry him backstage.
Chuck would make a great LHW gatekeeper.
I think he should move up to Heavyweight. I wonder what Dana is thinking now? “There’s got to be someone that Chuck can beat that will get him a title shot within the next year”. Poor Chuck. If he gets taken like this by Rashad, there’s no way he’s gonna stand a chance against Page again, or Forrest for that matter.
Whoa, I think it is a bit early to call him a gatekeeper. I am pretty sure he would have dropped Hamill like a bad habit. Franklin as well.
Just like he was supposed to drop Rashad
Title shot .. NO way!!!!!!!
I don’t believe its fair to dust our hands off Chuck…not yet.. its prime time for the iceman to change camps…yeah his trainer got him through for so many years but if the camp doesn’t evolve with the ever improving mma world then the fighter has to do something about it…others have done it and reaped the benefits e.g GSP….no shame in Chuck doing the same….hey business is business…and anything is possible in mma…peace.
I thought the same thing, but at the 38 it seems that he wouldn’t have ime to correct the mistakes that he makes. Hackleman has told him to keep his left up, but he hasn’t corrected it.
That may be the Smartest post ive ever read on ufcmania sorry mma mmamania —– mania can we give this guy some thing…. seriously hack did take chuck and make him the biggest star ever but its time for a xxxxxx wont say that word cause barak obama usesit to much chuck ur biggest fan sayas go to cotoure. go . please. ps u owe me a flat screen. or my therapist does my anger managment must not be working.
Haha. No shit. I felt myself turning green and was expecting to run down the street in shredded purple pants.
I’m right there with you guys…I almost flipped out at the bar when I saw Chuck go down….funny thing is I saw that happennig right when Chuck was chasing Rashad against the fence….his hands were way to low and he was punching really slow compared to Rashad. I love Chuck but damn hes in a bad spot right now…props to Rashad, that goofy ass dancing and nipple twisting scored you a KO.
Damn. Bisping and Tito did better against Rashad!
Yeah, but that doesn’t really mean anything. Tito didn’t do very well against Chuck, that’s for sure.
UFC 88
Franklin looked sharp; Hamill had a bad fight strategy by will be scary after learns how to fight on his feet and check leg kicks. He’s like the kid in the schoolyard that everyone beats up on but can never really hurt…
Henderson was too tentative but in his defense he didn’t know what he was dealing with. His sprawls are world class however his best moments were during the last 10 seconds of the third round. He needs to learn how to kick to be competitive but at 38 his time is running out.
Evans looked alright but I Chuck’s best days are behind him. He is a devastating one dimensional stiker when he catches you but his technical fighting is not the best. He looks like the Chuck who fought Rampage and Jardine, not the same as when he fought Silva. He made the same mistake tonight that he made against Rampage – throwing a punch / jab without keeping his other hand up. Rashad hit him with a punch that was telegraphed and probably would not have had anywhere close to the effect it did if Chuck had his hand up. MMA is evolving every day and the days of the stand up one punch fighters are disappearing. Chuck may be done after this….
Evans is gonna have big problems with technical all around fighters like Forrest and W. Silva and will be destroyed by guys like Machida and Thiago Silva.
yeah, but Evans is a much improved fighter since Bisping and Tito..I don’t like him, but gotta give him his dues, Chuck got KTFO..unreal, I’m still in shock over it..
Anybody notice that Dana didn’t let Dong Hyun Kim come in to the entrance song he wanted?! No wonder he put on a poor performance!
If Chuck had been training with Greg Jackson he would have taught him to not fight like Tank Abbott.
It is a shame to see Chuck lieing face down on the canvas, but it is a sign of the times. MMA has evolved, now a wrestling has a striking game, now a striker has a sprawl. Chuck unfortuanately has not developed the defensive technique for a stand up fight. He can trade blows, but he can’t duck and move in the pocket, or be the more patient fighter and wait for his opportunity.
His fame is a gift and a curse, he probably almost feels compelled to be the one pushing the action and be the person that is the dominant fighter. I think the result of this is that if someone just out waits him and forces him to play into their pocket and into their striking game, it leaves him open to haymakers.
But leading with an uppercut was amateur mistake, like leading with a left hook to the body like he did against Rampage. He needs to correct these mistakes, it’s not the end of his career, but hopefully it’s the end of his striking coach.
Indeed. Perhaps keep your hands up. God i know you want to look cool and be chuck liddell who doesn’t need to keep his hands up but KEEP YOUR HANDS UP
GOSH, I’ve been saying the same thing for years now… When he learns to keep his hands up, I might be his fan for the 1st time…
Why is it stunning? Give Rashad his props people! There are so many fighters out there that we all root for, but when they pull something like that out of their a$$, we don’t complain about it. But as soon as their favorite fighter gets their a$$ KTFO, everyone is quick to say that he got lucky, he was running all night and landed a lucky punch etc. Who cares? The dude had a damn good game plan and Chuck got KTFO!! We now have a new nickname for Rashad Evans .. Rashad “DEBO” Evans!! That’s my octagon punk!! LOL!!
chuck needs to train with couture…..
randy is the only one, out of all of the champs of the past (hughes, sherk, tito, milletich, sylvia)that is still relevant
True, but Couture is a complete anomaly. He ages like wine.
WOW.. That’s all.
Rashad was dressed like Rampage tonight.
Lol hillarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn38UPunbJU
Please tell me this is not you!. haha. I would have hated to have seen this guy when Earnhardt died.
Ohh, and it was funny.
Lol its not me. “Chuck. Just stop.”
funniest thing i ever seen on this website PERIOD! nice find.
I don’t know I just wanted to see the KO again, so i you-tubed it and found this XD
lol. my stomachs hurtin bro from laffing. plus the music. automatic add to favorites
lol! that was classic!
“Just Stop Chuuuck, Just Stop” – Classic
“He didn’t never even go for a takedown, Chuck, he just knocked your a$$ out.” hahahaha
By RaSHAD Evans…the king of lay and prey.
LMAO!!!! That was funny as hell hah!
Just too funny, I was laughing so hard it made me cry.
That is awesome ahha almost how I felt..
LOL, too funny. Oh, and not all people from the south have that accent!
I was the only one at my party not shocked by the outcome. I’m no Rashad nuthugger, but I just had this wierd feeling all day that Chuck was going to be on the rude end of a very big surprise. Then again, when you persist in fighting with your hands held down at waist level you gotta expect to get your bell rung.
You weren’t shocked?
Yeah, I predicted Evans too (SERIOUSLY, look at my previous posts)
Having said that, I was still totally shocked that Chuck appeared dead after the fight.
EXACTLY! I never counted out Rashad either (look at my previous posts if you must haha) but yeah I don’t think anyone expected such a brutal knockout man.
Me Too. I had the same feeling before Franklin/Silva 1 were no one expected Silva to KO him. and for my two cents on everything…
Rashad has the best head movement in MMA. He rolled with every punch Chuck landed and immediately got out of the way. He is not overrated, just unimpressive at times. He’s an awkward striker who has and will continue to prove frustrating to many fighters.
Chuck needs to leave Hack and just be in a new gym. Hack is great but he can’t teach chuck anything new. With that being said Chuck still has many more fights in him if he wants it. He needs to stop looking for the one punch and try to develop different gameplans (which a new trainer will help)
Get ready for TUF1 Champ vs. TUF2 Champ for the Light Heavyweight title. Now that is marketability.
I agree rashad exhibited good head movement and evasiveness. He’s good at not getting hit. I mean, hes never been knocked out… never been defeated. It doesn’t matter who you were fighting, if you are undefeated that means something.
wtf holy shit biggest fucking upset i i had my moutch open for about fucking 10 mints
Thank you Rashad.
The evolution of MMA has begun.
And you suck at boxing yourself.
Just think what this sport will look like in 10 years.
wtf holy shit biggest fucking upset i i had my mouth open for about fucking 10 mints
Nipple twisting really works, it gives you ko superpowers.
hahaha, all the girls who were watching with us were like wtf is he doing? They were on the verge of vomitation…intimidation factor my friends – anyone that would lick their fingers and rub their nipples in front of 13,000 men must be one crazy mo fo!
Just re-watched the fight, Chuck was crazy going in with his hands so low, and then trying to get an uppercut in. I’m sorry, but that shows that he’s way too over-confident and not training well enough. He may rebound with better training and a more overall approach to fighting, but my guess is that his days are completely over.
Dana White was probably piss’t about this. There goes his big money fight at the end of the year with Forrest vs. Chuck
Dana couldnt of been too happy. There goes his big money fight at the end of the year with Forrest vs. Chuck
That’s just the way it is…some things will never be the same
i am one of the biggest chuck fans out there i think he needs to retire rashad was a hand picked oppenente and liddell got koed he needs to hang up the gloves and i hate saying but i dont think he is anything more than a gatekeeper now but before he retires i would like to see him fight rich franklin
I am a massive fan and feel terrible saying this….Chuck “was” great! And we shouldn’t take that away from his legacy. But, for far too long, ever since UFC 66 and his beatdown of Tito, he has become boring, predictable, and slower. My god he’s 38-9 and gotten so slow and older over a year since Rampage put him out. He has no explosion anymore.
CHuck should honestly hang em up. It doesn’t matter what he does, its gonna be like Tyson. Hes been figured out. He was phenomenal. But the gameplan has been set for figuring him out. Seriously, Rashad is not even that good…I mean life and death w/ Tito(!?) and Bisping(!) this is like the twilight zone! Top that off by losing to Jardine! it just shows Chuck’s time is up.
Franklin will probably get Wandy. And Wandy has the fork stuck in him too! Too many hard wars, and beating the chinless Jardine doesn’t mean much. Actually, Jardine is an anomaly, talented, not too much support, and that Achilles heel that is the weakest chin in the sport.
Speaking of Randy, Randy is great, all time maybe. But after watching him pick up & dump Gonzaga a year ago, no doubt that hes cycling something, I mean a 44-45 yr old man does not keep strength or skill like that regardless of what his supporters say.
Chuck losing to Rashad is like the New England Patriots losing to a high school team, unbeliavable! Chuck is a fool for believing is Hackleman too much. I hope Hendo keeps pushing strong, I hate it how once a Great starts losing and hitting the down side of 30, like past 35, people start rapidly writing him off. WAR HENDO!
I thought that Rashad was going to win that too. Well….I thought that it was possible. I told everyone not to count out Rashad. I don’t know if it was because Chuck underestimated him, Chuck is getting older, or because of his injury, or because Rashad is just that good. But regardless, that was upsetting for me to see.
Most at the party were rooting for Rashad but when Chuck went down like that were like, woah! It’a almost sad to see such a proud and popular fighter go out like this. It reminds me of football greats who don’t know when to call their career a wrap.
I’m not gonna lie, I was really upset by it. Not to take anything away from Rashad because I am a fan of his, but that was just strange to see Chuck like that. I usually am jumping around yelling when there is a knockout, but while everyone around me was screaming (people that are just now getting familiar with MMA) I just sat there in disbelief.
Same here. I was actually kinda pissed. Oh well, that is mma.
Glad I’m not alone in that. But expect the unexpected. Anyone can win in a fight no matter who is fighting.
yeah, me too. I really feel bad for Chuck. We’ll see how and if he comes back. chuck is a warrior and he’ll be back.
I got my picks well & truely wrong!! Chuck getting KTFO wasn’t something I saw coming, especially from Rashad but credit where its due, it was a real sweet shot. Had to laugh at Goldberg when he kept saying “if Chuck had landed his punch…”, it hit Rashads armpit!!
Game plans came into affect last night, Hammil didn’t seem to have one, he should have been shooting a lot more on Franklin, I think he was too weary of catching a knee on the way in. Hendo was good against Palhares but apart from the kick & shoot he didnt have an answer to Hendos right hand.
IMO Brown got robbed but if he couldnt finish a tired Stun Gun then the judges can do that to you. Setanta cut the end of the Lambert-McDonald fight so didnt see the sub.
Not a bad card all in all.
Hammill is deaf, I didn’t know he was Retraded as well… he keeps wanting to stand and he’s been getting away with it, until now, when he fights a guy that has really good standup.
Hammill is a Ground N’ Pounder and he hasn’t accepted that about himself yet… and it cost him big time in a lopsided defeat.
Bisping hasnt fought anybody? Ask Evans who gave him a tougher fight! Bisping or Chuck.
Real talent, to be able to type while clinging so tightly to Bisping’s nutsack.
Let Evans fight one of the top brazilians and he’ll get tooled.
Chuck is doing a Muhammud Ali and not knowing when to retire and getting destroyed his last few fights. He had a great reign as champ, but no one can be champ forever. Time to let the younger guys have their moment.
chuck fell into the fetal position HAHA! KTFO !
there was no luck or anything to it, his eyes went wide we he seen the opening he had and he took it, and all of you people say that rashad did nothing in the first round. somebody tell me what chuck did in the first round besides stalk him and not throw anyhthing. i have always been a rashad fan, and will be laughing at all the doubters like i always do when he wins the title
still shocking…it reminded me of gonzaga knocking out cropcop with a high kick. i guess what goes around indeed comes around
It was a matter of time Chuck’s Guard is way open his left hand way down and Rashad timed it perfect, but Chuck’s left hand uppercut had bad intentions as well, but Rashad’s punch hit first. Shocking hopefully Chuck does not become like Matt Hughes then again alot of these guys are from the one dimensional era plus they are older.