Move over hamburger, it’s time for something meatier.
Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell was robbed of his chance to fight for the light heavyweight title on December 27 at UFC 92 when he was knocked out at UFC 88 ‘Breakthrough’ by “Sugar” Rashad Evans.
That Evans, what a party-pooper.
Liddell will remain on the card (assuming he’s cleared medically), but he’ll have to watch from the sidelines as someone else tries to deforest ‘Griffin’.
Will it be the 12-0-1 Rashad Evans?
Dana White confirmed today at the UFC 88 post-fight press conference that Evans next fight will indeed be for the light heavyweight title, though an exact date has yet to be determined.
I’m sure there are some finer details to be worked out, since the UFC brass is probably just as shell-shocked as the rest of us over Saturday’s developments.
In his post-fight interview, Evans seemed content to continue fighting fellow contenders, but apparently Dana and Co. are willing to reward him for such a significant victory.
Whether it’s against current champ Forrest Griffin this December or another competitor in early 2009 remains to be seen, though I would imagine whoever the champion is will be paying close attention to the outcome of Evans fight with Chuck Liddell.
As will everyone else: It’s bound to be played on highlight reels for years to come.
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This should be an interesting fight. Forrest had better work on his takedown defense.
Oh no, come on. Surely Rashad has done enough to dispel comments that he’s ‘just a wrestler’. Doesn’t knocking out Chuck Liddell kinda prove that you’re stand-up’s pretty good?
Hahaha, I completely agree…it wasn’t even just a knock-out, it was a beheading!
As soon as I saw Liddell’s gut in the weigh-ins, I knew he was done. lol yeah! Liddell gets KTFO by a wrestler!! I LOVE it! So much for revenge at Rampage, I hope I never hear their names together again.
Also, would anyone else like to see Franklin vs Shogun?
I think if Shogun gets back to form, he would whip Franklin, and I’m a big fan of Franklin’s.
I think that Rashad should pass through the gates of Machida first before gettin’ that title shot. But I ain’t complainin’ because someone has to keep Forrest busy to get our money’s worth…Well I guess if Rashad happens to clip Forrest too, then that would be the perfect set up to get beat up by one of my faves, Thiago Silva[who I believe is back in shape by then].
Hahahaha I am not saying that he is one dimensional by any means. I just think that he didn’t want to shoot on Chuck because he has a great sprawl. I think that he will want to shoot in on Forrest because Forrest loves to stand and trade. Forrest went 5 round with Rampage so I think that Rashad will want to take Forrest down. The comment wasn’t meant to be insulting. I was just indicating that he should prepare for what Rashad will likely attempt to do.
Forrest has pretty good takedown defense anyway. And when he is on the ground he is good at avoiding damage (see the Rua fight). AND just like for this fight- they have Jardine who can give great insight on how to get the W. Granted Forrest has improved quite a bit since then, but he was made to cry like a girl once, it can happen again.
Forrest vs. Rashad…. 2 counter punchers.
Whatever!
Great KO oby Rashad. The UFC should use this opportunity to give a title shot to Machida who truly deserves it.
Forret isnt a counter puncher. See his fight with rampage.
how does Machida deserve it ove Rashad? Atleast Rashad beat Chuck who is a top 5 LHW… Machida’s best win is vs Tito who isn’t even top 10
Kory, Liddell had his chance to get beat by Machida, and he rightfully backed down.
your a douche bag chuck has never ducked anyone.. chuck would kill machida
Sorry, but the Ice Cream man definately ducked Machida. The fight was offered to him a while back and his camp said no.
Tom’s Bombs is correct. While I do not believe by any means that Chuck is afraid of Machida, he said publicly that he did not want to fight him b/c it is impossible to find a training partner who fights Machida’s style to help him prepare. Chuck isn’t the only one, a lot of LHW’s feel the same way.
MANIA,
Why doesn’t the box stating what comments have appeared where exist anymore?
they turn it off on PPV nights. it just hasn’t been turned back on yet.
Rashad got lucky Chucks my favorite fighter and all Rashad did was dance around like a little girl den landed a lucky punch.
I am a giant Chuck fan, but that was not a lucky punch. It may have been practically his only punch, but it was not lucky.
I agree. Besides, I’ve never been convinced of the concept of the ‘lucky punch’. If your intention is to knock someone out, and you succeed, is that really just luck? Or is it just achieving what you set out to do?
That all really depends. If you are just swinging wildly in hopes of landing a knockout punch, then it is lucky to some extent. I can see what you are saying, but basically saying that it was lucky is saying that it wasn’t technical.
Good point zulu. That was not luck at all. That was a well timed, solid punch. Rashad was avoiding an upper cut and executing a beautiful over hand right at the same time resulting in the near death of Chuck Liddell.
zulu, well put
Yeah zulu, way to quote matt serra. thats exactly what he said when he was crying “IT WASN’T LUCKY!!”
That was skill but with some luck. It’s like a golfer getting a whole in one. He is going for the hole, but you can’t deny that there’s no element of luck involved.
DrHarry-
very well put.
He had landed that same punch a little bit earlier in that round as well. It obviously wasn’t as solid as the second one, but you could tell he knew to go for that punch like he said in the post fight conference.
It ain’t a lucky punch. It’s a culmination of the confidence that Rashad was gettin’ when he realized that he could stand and bang with Chuck!
Chuck couldn’t even be interviewed after… that was one of the cleanest shots ever. Rashad chose to stand and threw Chuck off his game. Chuck started his usual back-peddling, counter punching style but Rashad had Chuck chasing him in the 2nd RD. I figured Rashad would give Chuck some trouble but man I didn’t think that ending was possible. I have a whole new respect for Rashad. AND, Dana did not look happy having to congratulate him.
lol, so true. Dana normally really congratulates winners, yesterday he just said a quick, regretful, “well done”, shook Rashad’s hand and walked of. I found it funny. Both Dana and Lorenzo were secretly thinking “damn Rashad, there goes my money”
HaHa! Hilarious! There goes my money you fucker!
Yeah, they’re probably going to pocket Rashad’s KO of the Night bonus money to make up for what he just cost them.
LMFAO at Dana….It goes to show that you can’t cook the books forever, eventually you’ll get caught out. Suck shit Dana, the fighters are gonna keep making you honest man.
Props to Rashad, he is now a genuine contender at LHW and i NEVER thought i’d say that. He looked so fast and clean out there he was inspired. Chuck is looking older and slower with every fight, he should retire before he gets really damaged. Poor old Chuck has had his day.
I can’t believe i’m gonna say this but Rashad could be a really good matchup for Machida??? Both are evasive and fast and a little unorthodox….
With one clean punch the LHW division has regained it’s legitamacy. WAR RASHAD!!
I can’t stand the way Rashad dances around the cage,but it’s effective (he HASN’T lost) and that wasn’t a lucky punch. He timed it perfectly and got another REAL KO (out before they hit the mat and out for minutes afterwards). That boy has some serious KO power in his hands and feet. He is a threat to ANY LHW.
lucky eh it took skill to land it but yeah it was kinda lucky since it was all the offense he had all night, i wanna see rashad and rampage
I agree, I hate Rashad. All he did was run around, do his stupid dances, and got lucky with one of his only punches in the fight. His previous fights were all the same, showboating, and has no respect.
Take it like a man Joe. Chuck got knocked the HELL OUT!!!! No one has ever knocked Chuck like that even the Rampage knockout wasn’t that clean. Luck or no luck he got beat. Take it like a man.
Rashad vs. Griffin for sure
Not only has noone knocked out Chuck like that, I do not recall anyone every getting knocked out like that with a punch. Think back! Has anyones head ever been snapped like that? He looked like an Effen Bobblehead! That KO was straight out of the movie Friday when Debo ko’s Red, and Smokey screams; “You got knocked the F@*K OUT!” I have never heard a crowd silenced that way; other then Rashads wife screaming like a banshee off camera, you could hear crickets. All I kept thinking is lets get back to the main menu on this ppv, we must have played the Alternate Ending version, lets get the real Chuck winning ending.
Either way I would like to see Rashad take on one more top 10 before going for the title. MAchida or Rampage come to mind. That is just my opinion though….
Yeah Chuck went flat and woke up within seconds in the Jackson fight. ‘Rashad vs. Griffin for sure’- poor Machida
beleive machida should be in front of evans for title shot but i dont make the desicions lol
I would like to see Machida vs Rashad with the winner getting a title shot. Two unbeaten fighters going at it for a shot at the title. Only thing is, you let these two fight, then who’s left to fight Forrest in the meantime?
F machida! i believe if you want and title shot you should have to fight for it not run from losing.so thats why i say F machida.
Why?? He has beat Sokodjou (I know I spelled that wrong at not looking it up) and Tito lately. Earlier in his career he has some big wins. If the Thiago Silva fight went off and he won he would deserve it. Rashad is unbeaten in the octagon in 8 fights. That is pretty impressive by any standard.
What a way to answer one’s critics.
Good for Rashad. I guess he really is good enough. Just think – 3 of the top LHW in the UFC came from The Ultimate Fighter! Forrest Griffin, Keith Jardine and Rashad Evans. I guess there really is a changing of the guard underway.
I don’t know if Jardine is still up that high after he got crushed so bad by Wanderlei.
I don’t think that that’s fair, especially since the blow that really caught Jardine was to the back of the head.
Did it? I thought it was one of those right behind the ear shots ala Serra v GSP. All I know is that Jardine died and was revived in the cage- that knockout was sick. Jardine has some good/solid wins under his belt- it’s a rare animal that can avoid being knocked out by Wandy. There is no shame in losing to him. Jardine is in the UFC top 7-8. The division is just so stacked with Rua, Rampage and 3 undefeated fighters in Silva, Machida and Evans.
So he lost to Silva, have you forgotten that he beat BOTH Liddell AND Griffin? Jardine is a top LHW for sure.
Yet Dana will never pay Jardine more than $15K to win a fight, what an asshole. I love jardine & would like to see him fight a little more in the UFC
jardine is going to be fighting brandon vera
Dana will pay him when his TUF contract is up.
If Chuck would have been patient and worked as a counter striker, he could have won.
Chuck went blindly into the trap that Rashad and his team had designed for Chuck. He walked right into it.
What time is it for you up there?
It’s 2:30 am. I could tell that Rashad was planning on making Chuck the agressor pretty quickly into the fight. I have witnesses haha.
do you guys think Chuck maybe didnt have any respect for Rashad’s punching power? I mean damn…I thought the way Chuck was rushing in, like maybe he wasnt worried about Rashad;s power, then BOOM, my fav fighter is dropped face down arms down on the canvass.
but nobody has really ever seen rashads punching power, kicking power yes but rashad has never really dropped anybody with his punches. hes just so damn fast, now people will bge a lil more worried by getting caught by rashad. rashad is my man n i never knew he had that kinda power, but i knew he could stand with chuck bcuz rashad can take a beating. rashad will beat forrest
I think so too, but I think he was getting so pissed off at all the dancing he couldn’t take it anymore.
First can i just say lol at idiot who said Hendo was going to be taken down at will……
As for this topic No WAY none that he deserves title shot over Machida I assumed that after this fight he would be fighting him guess not…..Then again the ufc as of lately has been giving title shots away, so i guess i shouldve expected this shit.
One more thing OMFG cant believe he KO’d chuck, i mean sure i was like wtf is chuck doing off the get go when he was being to damn aggressive but seriously i never thought id see chuck get KO’d so badly by Rashad of all people!
Only fair, Chuck would have got one if he would have won. Wonder what is next for Chuck as he is 1-3 in his last 4 fights.
He would get a title shot because he has been there before, he has been tested and been at the top for several years. maybe or maybe not but it is what it is. Rashad is climbing the mountain that Chuck helped build. Big difference. Why did Couture get an instant title shot when coming back, It is the same reason people consider Couture the number 2 or 1 HW in the world even though his only real win against a top 5 opponent was Tim Sylvia(and most people do not consider Tim a top 5). In the last 6 years Couture has only won 6 of his last 11 fights. We would be dogging anyon else with that record, yet he is considered #1 or #2.
Yes but Randy lost to Chuck twice in Chucks prime, a juiced Josh Barnett and doctors stoppage due to a glove cutting an eyelid with Belfort whom he beat in the rematch.
If Chuck wins one more match is he due a shot over Machida or Thiago Silva just because he is Chuck?
no
Almost all of Randy’s fights were TITLE fights and he has WON FIVE belts, so don’t you think he beat some TOP guys?LOL. He doesn’t have the best record, because when you always fight top guys you lose some.
What I am saying is that Chuck has always fought Prime Fighters. Just like you are defending Randy that He won the belt 5 times, because he lost 4. Chuck held the belt and defended it succesfully 4 or 5 times, he railed of 7 wins against top conteders as well. Yes he lost to Jardine(who is his only crap loss and even that is subject to debate, how crappy jardine is subjec, not the lost). All I am saying is that he has earned a spot on top. Obviously this low drops him lower on the totem pole. I personally do not think Chuck or Rashad should get a title shot. I was saying Chuck would have gotten a title shot because he is who he is. Just like Randy, Chucks place in the UFC is equal or better then. You can not defend Randys status and the way he gets title shots without defending Chuck.
Personally I believe nobody but Rampage should be getting a crack at the title. That fight was to close and in my opinion-as well as others-Rampage had that 3 of those 5 rounds, but thats me. While that happens, Machida, Rashad, and Silva can workout next contender up…
and Chuck said he’d win against Fedor? what a clown…
Wow, here you go with your Fedor crap again. You my friend have a bigger crush on Fedor than Jean Claude Van Damm. Chuck is anything but a clown. One day Fedor will get old and start falling off and nobody will call him a clown. Everyone will remember all the good about him so why don’t you show some respect. If it weren’t for Chuck I probably wouldn’t even be an MMA fan today. He has done a lot for the sport in America and he is a big reason MMA has gotten so huge in this country.
Sure Fedor is and has been the most dominant fight for a while now but what has he done for the sport in America. I don’t like Fedor but I do respect him and for you to refer to Chuck as a clown, you are just showing everyone how shallow you really are.
CHUCK SUCKS
first, I’ve been watching PRIDE since 2004. Second, Fedor doesn’t have to do anything for America. Third, Chuck was talking trash alot and he got what he’s deserved. Peace!
First off I do not think that he was saying Fedor has to do anything for America. He is stating that was has he done for the sport in America. Big difference. He owes us Americans nothing but the Sport eveything because thats what lines his pockets and bed sheets green-or whatever the color of the money he gets paid in is. Chuck has done a ton for the sport in western cultures, while Fedor is still a virtual unknown to the common fan. Chuck has been making fans in the UFC in 1998. He has been a consumate ambassador for the sport and has taken it were ever possible. You must respect what he has done for the sport.
Chuck talked trash! Umm that is what all fighters do, either respectfully or disrespectully it what you have to do to be the best, from Dan Henderson and Randy Couture to new comers like Urijah Faber and Tyson Griffen. You can not walk into a fight questioning your ability. You go in to a fight as the best especting the best. You do not second guess you skills or you get KO’d. The other part of trash talking is marketing. Why does Tito Ortiz still sell more PPV then guys like GSP, ANdesrson Silva, or BJ PEnn-even though they are 99times the better fighter then Tito is? Because of all the trash talk. You pay to either see him back up his mouth or get Knocked the F@#K Out! He is the MMA King of Trash Talk Promotion…
WHAT IS NEXT FOR CHUCK? THE NEW CHUCKY NURSERY HOUSE IN VEGAS WITH TANK ABBOT AS CARETAKER.GOOD BYE MY LOVE GOOD BYE MY FRIEND
Maybe now he can get that fight with Fergie Slice.
No, Chuck is fighting the winner of Kimbo and Shamrock…So he’s fighting Kimbo next…I kid, I kid.
Um, Fergie Slice, or Fergie, is the preferred MMAMania.com nickname of the mixed martial arts super-duper-ultra-mega star Kimbo Slice, a.k.a. Kevin Ferguson.
i’d rather see rashad v wanderlei. and it wasn’t a “lucky” punch. it was a perfect punch that would’ve ko’d any LHW. Chuck should move upto HW for a couple more paydays then retire. 38 isn’t young.
Bisping hasnt fought anybody? Ask Evans who gave him a tougher fight! Bisping or Chuck.
Rashad Evans doesn’t deserve a title shot. I find him the most annoying fighter around due to his nipple twisting, stupid dancing and idiotic fight antics. I’m a Chuck fan but he should retire and a win over him shouldn’t mean u get a title shot. Rashad needs to fight a top 5 LHW…so he get a beatdown that he deserves
If Chuck beat Rashad he would have got a title shot, but Rashad beats Chuck and he doesnt deserve one.
I see.
Chuck is more entertaining. Evans is a f**cking clown.
Chuck WAS more entertaining. UFC needs to open a veterans division for Chuck, Hughes and Tito et al.
u guys are just made bcuz your fav fighter got KTFO
rashad doesn’t deserve a title shot because his last few fights include a win of bisping and a draw against a washed up tito…hardly championship material i’m sure u’d agree
chuck would have been deserving if he’d beaten rashad as he had a convincing win over wanderlai (a top LHW).
However given the sarcastic tone to ur post i can only assume u think that a win over bisping (at 205) is just as credible as a win over wandy??
he wouldn’t be deserving because he just lost to rampage and then jardine, so just because hye had 1 win or wandy doesn’t mean u get a title shot
but his idiotic fighting antics throws people off, and since he’s so fast he can catch anybody from anywhere, and he will beat forrest and i will be laughing at all you people again
Evans KO of Liddell reminded me of this drunken scotsman i saw in the high street one time hurling rasicts remarks at this stocky black gentlemen.
I’m a Chuck fan but I have to give Evans his props. He reversed roles with Chuck tonight and made it work. Chuck is a great counter striker but when Evans took that role he made Chuck become the aggressor and “BoomShackAlacka”!
Yeah I agree, Evans beat him at his own game, counter punching.
Maybe if Randy gets past Brock and Nog, we will get to see Chuck vs Randy again. That fight would sell and don’t think it hasn’t crossed Dana White’s mind. I think at this point and time randy would win but I am fans of them both and I wouldn’t really care who won.
They wouldnt do Chuck/Randy 4 because Chuck has already won 2-1. And they have btought out boxsets saying the “Complete Liddell/Couture TRILOGY”, so why would they book a 4th fight? Randy wouldnt want it, neither would Chuck probably
The bottom line is that it would sell. What else is Chuck gonna do? He can’t keep getting knocked out in this stacked LHW division. I read an interview about a month back and Chuck was saying he thinks Randy has really evolved as a fighter and he wouldn’t mind fighting Randy again in the future. He said he thinks the fans would want to see it.
after last night, I’m sure thats the last thing on Chuck’s mind….I dont know what he will do, but I hope he doesnt tarnish his legacy any further….what a shame to see him KO’d like that at the end of his career.
he needs to lose the gut and cut down to 185 and be silva’s highlight reel
You would think, Evans would go up to check up on his opponent.
lol r u kidding? Rashad was moving in to land some more bombs on Liddell who was face down arms down out cold lol Rashad doesnt care…..this is cage fighting. If Chuck had KO’d Rashad he would have done the same thing.
I see some whiners b**tching about Rashad doing the “Fred Sanford” move after the fight. Get over it. MOST fighters have victory celebrations after their fights, even when their opponents are crumpled up on the ground unconscious. Chuck himself has done his dance after crushing Randy, Tito, and Vernon White. Chuck didn’t “check on” any of those guys after he destroyed them. Even nice guys like Rich Franklin do a celebration after a great stoppage.
Being unhappy that Rashad won (if you are that) is fine. Whining about a standard fighter celebration that virtually all fighters do is ridiculous. Shut up about that.
Yes, Rashad deserves a title shot. It doesn’t matter if he lays and prays all over Forrest for the whole five rounds—he deserves the shot based on this win and being undefeated against other tough opponents. People need to get over it. Guys like Lyoto and Rashad win fights, so they deserve title shots. Chuck should strongly consider retiring.
Deserving a title shot is one thing, getting it is another. Watch the interview Dana White gave to MMA Live on ESPN. He said “At the end of the day we put on fights people want to see.”
So the person who gets the first shot at Forrest Griffen is the one that is going to make the biggest, most porfitable fight. Sorry I just don’t think that is Rashad, and I don’t really want to see him fight. Yes part of it is the reaction he had after the fight, and the way he carries himself, and part of it is I don’t think he is very exciting to watch. Not like Forrest Griffen or Anderson Silva, who are not only the champions, but they are fighters the majority of people like the most, and like watching fight the most. Sorry that isn’t my opinion, that is facts. Look at the ppv buys for their fights, and the fans reactions.
I agree, but I’m curios as to how you felt after Brocks post fight celebration? Just looking for consistency.
I wasn’t happy about it either. What is that stupid stuff about going fishing he did. Just dumb. Again, watch Anderson Silva and how he carries himself. Very humble guy, very thoughtful of his fellow fighters. And he is the best in the world hands down. I don’t think anyone can argue that at this point seeing how he wins each fight.
Forrest Griffen is different, as is his personality, but always still respectful and gracious. That humility goes a long way in my book! But that is just me.
I think a good argument can be made about him being the best ,buy HOW HE WINS FIGHTS. He comes on strong at the end, but Lutter, Marquart and Hendo were all beating him for the majority of the fight. GSP and Fedor own there opponents from start to finish.
Chucks Hands Were Way Down, By His Waist. He Needs To Change His Game Plan. His Old Style Might Have Worked Before, But With The New Breed Of Fighters He Needs To Evolve As Well.
FACT:
1) Jardine dropped Chuck with a right for a sec.
2) Rampage knocked out Chuck with a looping Right.
3) Last night….Rashad knocked out Chuck with a overhand right.
See the pattern here….Chuck really needs to study his opponents, and what he’s doing
wrong.
**”Hands Up, Chin Down”, Couldn’t Be More True For Chuck**
I believe Rampage was a left hook.
Machida is more deserving.
Scary knockout! Rashad (and the camp) trained to beat Chuck perfectly. That being said, I know Rashad was excited, but show some class in your victory. I know his reaction and the way he was acting seemed like such a punk thing to do, dancing around, clowning and stuff. That isn’t going to make a fan like me (and others) become big Rashad fans. And that will prevent him from making even more money because he won’t be a fan favorite.
Look at the most popular fighters now, Forrest and Anderson Silva. Both are very gracious in victory and defeat. Their deminor and their fighting spirit makes people just want to like them. Rashad I don’t think has that in his personality. He may get his title shot, and one day be champion, but he won’t be as popular as other fighters because of the way he carries himself.
Check out the interview Dana White gave to to MMA Live on ESPN. This isn’t boxing, it’s MMA, so they don’t need to give anyone a title shot. Unlike boxing, there is not official ranking system, so Dana puts the fight together that people want to see. His words directly from the interview. So Rashad may not get the title shot, because people like me just don’t like watching him fight. He’s a great fighter and scored a scary knock out of a very dangerous fighter. I just don’t like him very much.
Rashad was as shocked as the rest of us watching Chuck lying there. He just didn’t know what to do with himself or how to celebrate the biggest, most exciting win of his career. But, if he does that silliness again I won’t be in his corner.
I just watched it an Evan’s victory celebration was short and nothing excessive. I have a hard time seeing what people’s problem with it other than being angry that Chuck got KO’d so bad.
I guess I just don’t like Rashad, for the same reasons Matt Hughes didn’t like him on TUF2.
Gracious in victory. Okay. What about Anderson Silva guitar playing after a win. Or what about his Muai Thai dance after he beat James Irvin. Rashad got his first highlight reel knockout of a recognizable fighter (who is Sean Salmon?). This guy was excited!! Its a human emotion. If Chuck would have won he would have crossed his arms and yelled like a crazy man. See, Rampage does his howl, and Houston Alexander mean mugs and yells at people. Thiago Silva walks around the ring like he is the king of the world. See, I think the race card is coming into play. I know alot of people don’t think you are racist, but you are. A few years ago, the champs were Couture, Lidell, Franklin, Hughes, and Sherk. All white guys….. Recently it was Nogeria, Jackson, Silva, St. Pierre and BJ Penn. Now Forrest is LHW Champ so 2 white guys are in there. You all are tried of the white man not dominiating the sport anymore.
We are taking over. As soon as Rashad gets his shot, one less white guy as the champ. GSP probably wont lose anytime soon, but he is French Canadian
Rashad hit him with a punch that was telegraphed while Chuck made another dumb mistake putting his hands down. MMA is evolving every day and the days of the stand up one punch fighters are disappearing. Rashad beat a guy who’s one dimensional game plan had been exposed a long time ago. Unfortunately Chuck may be done after this because there are no legit fighters in that division for him to fight without destroying his legacy with a couple losses. Maybe a fight against H. Alexander to finish it off???
Evans is gonna have big problems with technical all around fighters like Forrest and will get destroyed if he can’t dodge fights with Machida or Thiago Silva. Keep dancing around and rubbing your nipples Rashad – your days are numbered.
If Rashad’s dancing gets outta hand, he’s gonna end up like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRHf1hsIEiA
Found it while looking for the fight. It’s an absolutely hilarious fight
That was from the movie “Never Back Down”
You almost have to question whether Chuck’s hands down fighting style is still prudent in the modern UFC where the boxing/kickboxing talent of its fighters is continually increasing.
i would of liked to see chuck win .that said rashad beat him ,i believe mma fighters are always getting better at every aspect of fighting .chuck looks very one dementional more so in the last year then ever ,maybe its time to step down for chuck before he starts looking like some other great fighters that just wont quit and or evolve with the sport .kudos to chuck for great and very entertaining career,please dont change the memories with a continued losing streak against opponents that 3 years ago you would have stopped in the first round.
A lot of people underestimated Rashad, myself included. I should have known Jackson (king of game planning) would have devised a great game plan to beat Chuck. Also I didn’t know Rashad was a nipple twister, guys who do that just plain win (GSP), lol. Does anyone know why they do that?
17-0-1
Mark me in the very surprised column as well as the underestimated Rashad Evans column. Wow, I love this sport. Wondering who Chuck will face next though.
Rashad is a boring ass fighter. Why was he twisting his nipples during the introduction? And then the guy gloats while Chuck is unconscious. How would his screaming bitch like it if Chuck’s lady was screaming while he was unconscious.
I saw that too and was asking myself why he was doing that. Maybe he was pinching himself so he knew it was all real? At least I hope it is something like that, and not something more?!
got to admit that was foul….his wife is annoying and must not know how to exhibit self control like her husband who after beating Chuck by KO, didnt do anything overly absurd. I think he was making fun of the crowd because they were shocked. He wasnt mocking Liddell that I saw anyway.
I’m not sure but I think the UFC has doctors come in the ring after the fight to take care of the fighters. Why does Rashad Evans who last time I checked wasn’t a doctor need to go check on Chuck’s condition. By the way all you Chuck fans, have you ever watched Chuck after he wins. After he knocked out Renato Babalu in the first fight he was running around the ring bouncing up and down, so he does the same thing as well. I mean was Rashad suppose to pull a BJ Penn and just run to the locker room right away. Give me a break, the man just knocked out one of the greatest fighters of all time let him celebrate.
As I live in the UK and have several children of a young age I did not stay up til 3am to watch UFC 88 but decided to watch it our time tonight. These are my thoughts (and my thoughts alone) per fight:-
1.) I thought Matt Brown won quite easily, now I am no judge but he was far more aggresive and was striking at will, but they are my thoughts and my thoughts alone.
2.) Nate Marquadt outta fight Dan Henderson next to see who fights the winner of Silva vs Cote (probably Silva), that would be an awesome matchup I take Henderson, he has shown (unlike Liddell, more later) to adapt his game.
3.) Dan Henderson’s gameplan was absolutely spot on, f!*k the booers he did what he needed to do, I love you Dan. You might have to move up to LHW if you don’t beat Silva again though.
4.) I am gobsmacked to have read somewhere, that Franklin will not cut it at LHW after that performance. Rubbish, he was superb, you are forgetting who he fought, a very strong wrestler with great strikes who looked extremely normal tonight. Franklin picked him apart, and should fight someone like Thiago Alves or Rashad Evans next to cement his position, very good performance Rich and I love AC\DC.
5.) Chuck oh Chuck. I’ll explain a little bit of the history with me and the UFC before I start. I got into it here in the UK by watching a show on Bravo channel called UFC one late Sunday night after having a few drinks. It was Liddell vs Horn 2 and after Chuck’s victory I thought who the hell is this guy. I was lucky I caught him in the beginning of a good run and I fell in love with the guy, he was everything Boxing wasn’t.
Well I was in Malta last May and I emailed a friend of mine to let me know the result of the Rampage vs Liddell 2 fight and I was traumatised I couldn’t believe it my Chuck lost. I won’t even go into the Jardine fight, but after Wanderlei I thought he was back.
Well all I can say after tonights performance is Chuck you looked slow, predictable, and, as much as I hate to say it, old school. You now belong in the same era as Shamrock, Tito and so on. MMA has evolved and Chuck hasn’t.
One thing I couldn’t get was how slow he looked and predictable even I knew what he was about to do. Which brings me on to Rashad. I am sorry to all the Rashad lovers but I can’t stand the guy. Whats with licking your fingers and rubbing your nipples before the fight, the showboating, the silly pr!*k dances and the stupid screaming wife after the fight. This just reminds me of the bad days of boxing.
Amd before people say I am either racist or too much of a Chuck lover, I actually am a massive fan of Rampage Jackson and I think he will win his title back soon. As for Chuck, I think he should retire or go to Extreme Couture and let him coach you and I think you will get back on that ladder again.
Rant over.
Rashad deserves that title shot. bottom line
Reasons Why?
1) He just knocked out the face of UFC, Chuck Liddell and he did it in exciting fashion
2) He has won 7 of his last 8 UFC fights, the other was a draw
3) Rampage jackson is scheduled for November I heard, so a fight with Rashad and Forrest sounds more reasonable considering it gives him 4 months to prepare.
4) Machida is a great fighter, very technical, and he’s won 5 straight in the UFC but 4 of his fights were all decisions with lots of countering. Though I know it is his style but sometimes its more exciting to see a finisher than a person who wins by the point system.
I think after that fight with Chuck, Rashad is more than worthy of a title shot than Machida.
C’mon be honest What would you rather see?
Ultimate Fighter Season 1 Winner vs. Ultimate Fighter Winner Season 2
GRIFFIN vs EVANS “Battle of the Ultimate Fighters”
and they could definitely market it by showing a highlight reel of Griffin beating Rampage & Evans knocking out Liddell and since both fights were pretty recent. Fans have this fresh in their minds.
or MACHIDA vs. GRIFFIN
The casual fan won’t know who Machida is and Griffin doesn’t have enough star power to sell PPV’s fighting Machida. The fight wont sell.
Does anyone remember BJ Penn licking blood off of his gloves? Or Chuck doing laps around the octagon after his knock outs? How about Tito’s grave digging or GSP’s break dancing? Besides you don’t need to be a gentleman to sell tix. Tito Ortiz was one of the biggest pricks ever, but he sold tix.
As for Machida getting a title shot? Man screw him. I HATE watching him fight because I know I will most likely get bored. 62% of his wins are by decisions. Boring ones. Rashad has improved immensely from his TUF days. He trains his stand up with one of the greatest Muay Thai fighters of all time and just gets better and better. I’d rather see that rumored Joe Rogan/Wesley Snipes fight than Machida vs Forrest.
im a big machida fan, but Rashad is way more deserving then lyoto, i think lyoto needs one big win or two more convincing wins before he gets a title shot.
hummmmmmmmmm
I never said don’t celebrate. And I’m not complaining. I am just surprised. Not always, but depending on some knock outs and the factor of time they are “out” opponents just give a little duck into the doctors reviewing of their lifeless opponent just to show the respect and what not. Thats all. Ex: Rampage hit Liddell and his lights clearly went out for a moment. That fight was over. But Chuck came too and regardless didn’t know what planet he was on… He got up. Of course you won’t go over in that situation. But certain fights you know. Ha damn guys. I was just SAYING! I’m not mad or anything!
And absolutely… the arrogance sells tickets. No doubt. I’ve argued that point with a lot of my friends. People love to hate these guys and thats what works. Trust me… I’m one of them. Fucking hate Tito and some but thats what made the fights with him more fun and exciting. But that doesn’t make it right, is all. (If that were the point I’m arguing) Again… I’m not saying don’t do it. I just said, I am simply a little surprised he just didn’t go over. Thats all. Damn guys! I’m sorry!
even Wanderlei acted concerend after he murdered Jardine….
The question has come up about Chucks future. I think 1 of 2 things should happen.
1) Retire Gracefully
or
2) If he really wants to start the road to the title over. Have a rematch with Jardine (providing Jardine beats Vera) It would have worked out much better, if the fight with Vera was not set yet. Chuck comes off a vicious KO loss, and Jardine as well (from Wandy). Last time they fought it was the same case (Chuck from Rampage, and Jardine from Houston Alexander) Chuck has always wanted to revenge this loss, and i think it would have some draw (not a main event).
Awesome Forrest vs Rashad is gunna be an awesome fight.. both will definitly have a good showing, as for chuck losing thats what happens when you come with an uppercut from the outside, its basic boxing knowledge that the uppercut is a clinching punch b/c when you throw it the mechanics of it force you to lower your other hand. Chuck hasnt ko’ed anyone in a long time he definitly has lost the ko power… RETIREMENT OLD DOG.
lol I dont think Chuck lost his KO power…its not like it just goes away one day randomly at 38 years old, the prblem is he cant land a clean shot because nowdays people like Rashad and Rampage and Jardine are able to figure out his combos and avoid his punches. Wanderlei was nearly out, but I dont think Chuck had the gas to finish him off by rapid firing a few more bombs on him.
Rashad Evan/Greg Jackson 08
alot of u need 2 just accept that rashad is a top notch undefeated fighter..and the nonsense about his showboating is ridiculous..hes very humble(did u see the interview?)…when was the last time chuck checked on a ko victim…theres a double standard…everybody has there own style, if tito can talk crap excessively and patronize his opponents after fights why cant rashad, and kept it 2 minimum, maybe he should of worn a shirt about.lol…if u guys dont like rashad maybe u should start watching elite xc or somethng, cause hes part of the future of the ufc…
alot of u need 2 just accept that rashad is a top notch undefeated fighter..and the nonsense about his showboating is ridiculous..hes very humble(did u see the interview?)…when was the last time chuck checked on a ko victim…theres a double standard…everybody has there own style, if tito can talk crap excessively and patronize his opponents after fights why cant rashad, and kept it 2 minimum, maybe he should of worn a shirt about.lol…if u guys dont like rashad maybe u should start watching elite xc or somethng, cause hes a big part of the future of the ufc…