“This is definitely a tough test to see if this weight class is going to be a good fit for me or not. I’m in the process of trying to gain weight, and that’s not all going to come in this one fight. It’s going to take me several months to continue to put weight back on to be one of the bigger competitors again at 205 pounds. I know on the spectrum of things I’m going to be smaller. I think the next couple months of my career is definitely going to answer that question…. Well, I’ll say this. Matt’s not one of the top 10 205-pound fighters.”

– Rich Franklin talks to Sherdog.com about his latest “test” in the light heavyweight division this weekend at UFC 88: “Breakthrough” that will help determine whether or not he will be successful at the heavier weight. The former middleweight champion will clash with Matt Hamill, who he considers as outside the top 10 fighters in the 205-pound division.

September 5th, 2008    

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 11:57:04

It’s a stacked division so this isn’t really insulting.

Comment by Jeff
2008-09-05 12:11:27

I agree with you this is not insulting in the least. The LHW division just has so much talent.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:14:20

Exactly. I think that Hammill has great potential and could easily move up in the ranks, but as of right now, he hasn’t been able to do so. Rich Franklin is his greatest test thus far in my opinion. He proved himself to be a great fighter when he fought Tim Boestch

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Comment by Cogito Ergo Sum
2008-09-05 12:56:14

Is there a reason it’s bold? Like this is huge news, Rich Franklin just made a statement everyone agrees with including the guy he made it about.

 
Comment by Kimura by Fedor
2008-09-05 12:56:43

I agree with Rich, but Hamill is no doubt a threat. He just needs to become a more rounded fighter. He relies on his wrestling a little too much to convince me he’ll ever have the title.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-05 17:11:09

Rich said that Hamill is not considered a top ten lhw fighter. He later went on to state that Hamill’s hearing was not very good either.

 
Comment by DSmith
2008-09-05 18:36:42

Lol- eh hem. That’s not funny. He’s not top ten, but the kid is tough as nails and has alot of potential. I’m really looking forward to this fight- Matt is not going to give up and that always makes for a good fight.

 
Comment by brendan
2008-09-05 22:31:56

well guess what rich? youre not a top ten LHW either so stfu and fight

 
 
 
 
Comment by b.w.
2008-09-05 11:58:17

i agree with rich and im sure hamill does too. hamill is probably somwhere just ouside of the top 10 though.

Comment by JV
2008-09-05 12:13:26

Yea but Franklin shouldnt have mentioned that IMO. Because lets say Franklin loses? Then what? Franklin loses to a guy that he said wasnt even top 10! So why even mention rankings?

Comment by b.w.
2008-09-05 12:47:24

if rich loses this fight, i would look for him to move back down to 185 or retire. he can lose this fight (as long as he doesnt get demolished, wich i highly doubt) he can still move back down to 185 and have some high profile fights like hendo,bisping, fihlo.

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 11:59:51

Who would be top 10?
Forrest
Rampage
Wandi
Shogun
Thiago Silva
Lyoto Machida
Rashad Evans
Chuck Liddell
Anderson Silva (if he continues to fight there)

Who else? I wouldn’t know which fighter to add to this list….maybe Rich pending on how he fairs against Hammill. That list was in no particular order btw.

Comment by getrawbc
2008-09-05 12:47:38

I know he’s not in the UFC but I think Vladimir “The Janitor” Matyushenko belongs above Hammill and Jardine.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:51:13

Maybe Hammill but I don’t think Jardine. But yeah I was referring to UFC light heavies.

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Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-09-05 14:32:32

Soon enough my boy Luis Cane will be in the top 10, and then he will move into the top 5…WATCH OUT FOR LUIS!!..

My top 10 ranked LHW in the UFC..

10-Jardine
9-Soko
8-Rashad
7-Forrest
6-Thiago
5-Wand
4-Chuck
3-Rampage
2-Machida
1-Shogun

….If I was including Anderson and Hendo, they would both make the list..Hendo sitting somewhere around 6 or 7 and Anderson definitely in the top 4 somewhere..

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Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-05 17:04:38

You would still put Shogun at number 1? I never felt he deserved number 1 in the first place, but he certainly doesn’t deserve it after getting submitted by Forrest.

 
 
 
Comment by TKO
2008-09-05 12:48:02

I was also thinking sokudjou I thinks that how you spell his name. He is really good Judo guy very fast and explosive.

Comment by roy
2008-09-05 13:37:11

henderson for sure, he will be back at 205 at some point.

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Comment by Anthony
2008-09-05 14:24:37

Rich Franklin isn’t top 10 either lol. My top 10 would be - and this is leaving Anderson and Henderson out - as follows:
Rampage
Griffin
Machida
Liddell
Wanderlei Silva
Thiago Silva
Keith Jardine
Sokoudjou
Rashad Evans
Brandon Vera

In the mix (in no particular order):
Matt Hamill Goran Reljic
Houston Alexander James Irvin
Rich Franklin Jon Jones
Tim Boestch Luis Cane
Stephan Bonnar Kazuhiro Nakamura

that’s 20 names just right there. I mean that’s some depth right there!

Comment by naturalshadow
2008-09-05 17:07:34

I actually just made an argument against Stagger having Shogun ranked too high, but you left him entirely. Haha. I would certainly add him to the list. Also, I would drop Vera like a hotcake.

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Comment by brendan
2008-09-05 22:33:51

yeah really, Vera looke terrible his last three fights, and Shogun is a beast at 205, you cant leave him out!

 
 
 
 
Comment by WB
2008-09-05 12:03:10

Jardine would probably be in the mix somewhere too. Definately above Hammill.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:06:35

Oh yeah! Definitely Jardine. I didn’t even think to add him! Sad because I considered Vera and that is Veras next fight. Vera needs to prove himself but yeah I would add Jardine to that list and I think that would complete it.

 
 
Comment by WB
2008-09-05 12:06:21

I’d make the arguement that even Bonnar belongs above Hammill based on experience alone as of right now. Would probably be a good fight though.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:08:21

Bonnar is another fighter that I haven’t considered. Probably because he has been out for so long. Any word on his return?

Comment by matt
2008-09-05 12:15:09

i heard october

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:37:56

Any possible opponents? I can’t think of anyone he could fight right now.

 
 
 
 
Comment by RandomTask
2008-09-05 12:33:04

Jardine is top 5 imo, since he beat Liddell, its that simple.

Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 12:40:29

He also beat Forrest too. But he lost to Wandi and Liddell beat Wandi and Wandi beat Rampage but Rampage beat Liddell but Liddell lost to Jardine and Jardine beat Forrest but Forest beat Rampage..AAAAAAH!

Comment by b.w.
2008-09-05 13:21:52

lol! mma math can cause severe brain damage.

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-09-05 16:15:52

hahaha it’s truly frustrating.

 
 
Comment by MikeD
2008-09-05 13:41:12

LOL funny post, Anderson Silva solves all equations haha!

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Comment by MC
2008-09-05 13:19:53

Definitely not an insult from Rich. He was more or less saying that if he can’t beat Hamill convincingly, he has no business being @ 205.

 
Comment by DrewZel
2008-09-05 13:58:05

I’ll laugh my ass off if hamill beats him.

 
Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-05 14:16:46

Who ever said Hamill was a top 10 HW.

 
Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-05 18:47:55

Certainly not me. he needs more fights before he gets there.

 
Comment by belfort_fan
2008-09-05 19:43:45

he will never be top 10

 
Comment by Wanderlei Fan
2008-09-05 19:55:31

Yea he is way to sloppy for that.

 
Comment by oscar
2008-09-05 23:49:15

hes right but matt def has potential to rise in the lhw hes got the tools he just needs to polish them and rich is right but come on ur not supposed to say stuff like that

 
Comment by TheNegation
2008-09-06 00:05:38

THis is plain common sense. Hammil really isn’t clear cut to make it to the top ten. Top 20 maybe, but definitely not top 10!

 
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