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“If he gets the title back (after the tournament), I wouldn’t mind coming up and getting the heavyweight title too. We can talk about that later.”
Former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell talks about a possible fourth fight with UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture. Of course, “The Natural” still has the belt, however, “Iceman” is referring to Couture defeating Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 on November 15 and then beating the winner of the fight between interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira and Frank Mir to unify the title. Liddell has two wins in three tries against Couture in the 205-pound class.
September 4th, 2008
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I think Chuck needs to worry about this weekends fight rather than worrying about the heavyweight title. I’m not saying that Rashad is going to tear thru him or anything like that, but Rashad is not a push over. Chuck is worried about the title for LHW and HW and IMO he needs to prove himself to at least another fight after this one w/Rashad (if he wins) before he gets another crack at the LHW title.
Well he’s not going to have to prove himself, He’s Dana’s Golden Boy and he sells PPV’s. So if he beats rashad he will get his Title Shot at LHW. And If randy does beat Brock, And most likely Big Nog, Witch i dout he will even get past Lesnar, Then chuck could fight him for the belt at HW. And if chuck does lose againt Rashad, Then He could go up to heavyweight like randy did and most likley Have Success there aswell. becuase I see no one giving him a problem there but Nog and Lesnar. But I don’t see this Senerio even Happening.
There are way too many “ifs” in that scenario… Although, I wouldn’t mind it working out that way.
The classic war: Liddell vs Couture… @ HW!! I’m all about it.
Man I hope Chuck breaks Rashad’s face!!! In the countdown show Rashad was saying to his camp “chucks getting his a$$ whooped” Rashad was saying the same thing with Tito, and he did nothing! So again I hope Chuck just pounds Rashad out!!! But I agree with you Tapout33, Rashad is no pushover.
whats he supposed to say? “Chucks going to destroy me”?
Yo John.. You think Chuck will tighten up his Mohawk to fight a Big Nog for the HW??
I dont think he wil ever move up! He has been talkiunga bout it forever and I dont see him beating too many top heavyweights besides Couture!
yea I noticed the way Rashad said that was like it was “staged”….he didnt sound mean like when Rampage says it….
What liddell wants, Liddell gets, and being a huge Iceman fan I hope he does get to fight If randy can somehow win.
PLus I need Chuck to come up big, I have a huge load od money on him this weekend, An even straight up bet, (my friend is black by the way lol)
why didnt he come up and fight Sylvia, Arlovski, or Nog for the HW belt. he just wants to fight somebody he knows he can beat. i’d bet if he did fight randy for the title and won, he’d retire or relinquish the belt before he’d defend it against someone like Nog or Brock. chuck would just fight randy so he could say he was a HW champ, it’s not like he could defend it. if he thought he could be a dominate HW he would have quit cutting weight from 230 and fought at HW a long time ago!!!
i dont feel that the heavyweight division as tough as the lightheavyweight division for the most part
Randy was very succesful in the lhw division but then moves up to heavyweight and dominates
* i meant to say, Randy wasnt very successfull at lhw *
Really? I mean I know Chuck beat him in their last two bouts, but he won the interim belt, and the undisputed belt 1.5 times (the loss to Vitor was a total fluke, hence the .5). I’m not sure about one guy in the division having his number being the indicator for a lack of success. But whatever.
MongoMan, usually there’s a tirade of spew about why a fighter is the best… u put it quite simply, good point.
one title defence is hardly ‘dominating’ the heavyweights
I don’t think he was saying that he dominated the division, but he certainly dominated both of his opponents.
Agree with you, deuce. Chuck will probably knock Randy out but won’t successfully defend the belt
Hes answering a question deuce 4. He was asked if he would fight Randy again, and hes basically saying, yes, if its worth it.
He can’t help it, it’s big news, Chuck will get down to business, no worries
Sorry my friend but if Chuck wins, it’s Chuck vs Forrest which I don’t have a problem with. Chuck is a MMA legend and if he manages to beat Wandy and Rashad back to back it’s not entirely off base to give him a title shot IMO. I agree he should worry about this weekend though. I’m actually picking Rashad to win.
Great fighter but to lite for the big boys.
Agree. He’s giving up a lot of pounds to everyone in that division. No chance.
chuck walks around at 230, he could compete @ HW , randy walks around @ 235, not much difference, CRUSH RASHAD AND SPIT HIM OUT CHUCK
imo, Chuck could not hang in the HW division.
You don’t see many HW counter-strikers.
KneeToTheFace - Come to think of it, you don’t see any HW counter-strikers (that are halfway decent, anyway). Possibly Arlovski, but he’s equally an offensives striker. I think Chucky could do rather well against some. Be fun to see him against Kongo.
I would like to see Chuck move up to HW, but I dont think hes strong enough…his best cahnce would be to use his speed, which is diminishing due to age, and long lanky limbs to counter strike and KO folks. Problem is I just cant see Chuck fighting Kongo or Brock. I dont think Chuck is scared to fight NOG, he said he would like to fight Fedor, so how can he be afraid of Nog? In fact he probably has less respect for nog than anyone else in the HW division.
I could see Chuck knocking out Kongo. I haven’t seen Kongo do anything to make me think he is a true force in the HW. Brock’s chin is still a mystery, but if it is tough, then yes, Chuck would be screwed.
KONGO IS A BUM,
Chuck at HW would be a site to see! After he get his LHW belt back, maybe he can test the HW waters? The UFC is putting big PPV # fights and one I think will be just as big as Brock/Randy would be Chuck/Anderson!
fu chuck liddell ….lol
A genuine Iceman hater, lol
If Chuckieboy thinks he can stand and bang with the HWs, he’s 100% mistaken. Even w/his “world class” sprawling, it’s he who will get sprawled on the ground! No chance. But if you think about Liddell-Couture[2 & 3], then yes he has a chance of kickin’ Couture’s a$$ for a 3rd time.
Toad, you have the perfect name……lol
A Liddell-Couture 3 fight would be a blockbuster with the current hype around Randy, and Chuck’s popularity…
But yeah… it would prolly be as one sided as each of the first two fights.
are you on crack?
there have already been 3 randy chuck fights
natural won the first one , before beating tito
then chuck knocked him out twice
they were far from one sided fights, after rampage, randy has definitely given chuck the second most competetive matches
bigjohn - I think for some people those whoopings by Chuck overshadow Randy’s TKO of Chuck the first time around. I think some people are only aware of II and III and think they’re I and II.
Randy had Chuck’s number the first time around! I think he could pull it off again.
Yup MMACF, Couture beats Chuck at hvwy, Couture gains more strength at 225 lbs than Chuck does. I see Couture avoiding a lot of Chucks strikes this time around and being more effective with his takedown attempts. You’re right a lot of fans don’t know they fought 3 times!
It would be 4
Well obviously he wouldn’t have a problem, he just won his last two fights against him. I personally think it would be a cheap way for Chuck Liddell to grab the HW belt. Dude needs to worry about getting LHW belt and defend it first.
I’m not sure sure Chuck could take out Randy at HW….personally I think it would be to Randy’s advantage if they fought at HW.
why does everyone hype up lesnar so much!!!!oh yeah he was the wwe heavyweight champ!!!!!im been sarcastic!!!!!
Cause Brock is the real deal!
Brock isn’t the real deal when Hulk Hogan is around to do a sick leg drop on him, haha!!
Brock isn’t the real deal. I don’t see Randy pulling a win off only because he’s not a big submission guy, but Nog would submit Lesner in the first round, no problem.
So anybody that doesnt have subs are not real fighters? Brock comes from the most important art in MMA (wrestling) Some of the most dominant fighters have come from a wrestling backround. Just cause he came from the WWE doesnt mean hes not legit! You guys might not be fans, but to say Brock is not for real is stupid!
Chuck is one mean mean dude….Poor Couture gonna get his ass handed to him again TWICE IN A ROW!!! Imagine broc is gonna smash Couture and whats left chuck is gonna kill hahahha!
this just proves with all these fighters wanting to move up and down weight classes that its time for UFC to have grand prix tourney……can u imagine….chuck….randy…wand….rampage….griffin….vera…hendo….franklin….a silva….and whoelse????? would be crazy!!!
Would be great! Sucks that it would never happen though.
I wouldn’t mind seeing him at hw
Chuck only wants to fight him if he gets the title back dude. And beating Couture is no gimme, even though Chuck managed to beat him twice, Couture beat Chuck the first time around. He could easily do it again.
Exactly, Anyone who can’t see the difference in Randy when he fought Chuck (going through a tough time and retired because his heart wasn’t into it then)and when he fought Sylvia and GG is blind. GG is much more dangerous than Chuck. He has leathal kicks, a great ground game and he is a lot bigger and stronger than Chuck. Randy picked his game way up and it is pretty clear Chuck has slipped a bit lately. I think Randy would beat Chuck now.
All becuase he got luck and Kicked out Mirko with a kick, dones’t mean he has good leg kicks. thats like saying rashad as Dangerous leg kicks becuase he Knocked out Sean Salman. Chuck would beat randy for a 3rd time guarrenteed.
not just the mirko fight chase, did you see the kicks he was landing on werdum?
GG does have some very powerful kicks. Not only did he KO Crocop with one, but he broke Randy’s arm with a kick when Randy tried to block it.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! GG sux. He was so lucky that it hurts. Chuck would beat GG, then come over your house and beat your a$$.
Actually, I’m going to guarantee that he doesn’t do that. I’m pretty sure Chuck doesn’t do breaking and entering in order to kick someone’s ass just because he wasn’t a fan. I don’t guarantee very often, but that one was easy.
The UFC has become more about who can draw the most money than who deserves a title shot. Manchida has beaten Rich Franklin, BJ Penn, Tito Ortiz, big Nog and 8 other guys and has NEVER lost….yet he is not even mentioned as contender for a title shot.
Lesner has had 2 UFC fights and lost one of them yet he gets a shot at the title. This is bad for the sport because it makes it like the WWE in that carisma matters more than merit.
I hope Randy beats Brock in round one because Brock, although talented has not EARNED a title shot…yet.
If Chuck doesn’t get the light heavyweight belt, I could see him giving i one last run by going fot the Heavyweight. Assuming Randy is the champ
I think Randy would beat chuck at HW just like he did the first time they fought.
possibly. Randy seems to have gotten better and Chuck has struggled as of lately (aside from the Wandi fight) I’d definitely watch it.
oh yeah… would be a great fight to watch. would sell a bunch of ppv’s also.
Oh no doubt. Chucks heavyweight debut and another rematch between two of the top stars in the UFC. A chance for Randy to redeem himself and a chance for Chuck to add onto his legacy.
The UFC has become more about who can draw the most money than who deserves a title shot. Manchida has beaten Rich Franklin, BJ Penn, Tito Ortiz, big Nog and 8 other guys and has NEVER lost….yet he is not even mentioned as contender for a title shot.
Lesner has had 2 UFC fights and lost one of them yet he gets a shot at the title. This is bad for the sport because it makes it like the WWE in that carisma matters more than merit.
I hope Randy beats Brock in round one because Brock, although talented has not EARNED a title shot…yet. Have him fight Gonzaga instead.
Machida hasnt fought anybody worth getting him a title shot! Since when is beating Tito get you a shot? (BJ, a LW) (Franklin a MW) and it wasnt big Nog it was little Nog! Those other guys dont mean sh*t! If thats the case why not Thiago and Rashad? They are both undefeated too! I agree its abit early for Lesnar to get a shot, but why would he turn it down?
This is a product of timing as much as it is drawing power. Who else is there for Randy to fight in November? Mir/Nog are fighting in December.
Randy just beat Gonzaga. Kongo is hurt. The only other possible opponent would be Werdum, but he’s already set to fight in October. Plus he was promised a title shot if he won that fight, so it’s probably better for him to wait until the whole duel title thing is sorted out via the minitournament anyway.
The shallowness of the HW division and the timing of TUF DOES make Lesnar one of the, if not the most logical choice. Even before you factor in that it will be the most profitable (and likely a big reason Randy came back since I’m sure he’ll get a ppv %)
I would like to see Machida defeat either Wandi, Rampage, or Liddell before getting a title shot. going to a decision against a lightweight fighter years ago (BJ) beating a middleweight who isn’t even really in the mix of light heavyweights yet (Rich) and almost getting submitted by a fighter who lost his fighting spirit when he got fame (Tito) isnt enough to get a title shot. I am not denying that he is very capable, but he still needs to prove it to everybody. Beating Thiago would be a great start.
machida vs liddell is a dream fight for me. they both have those unorthodox styles makes for a great fight.
Possibly. Chuck is a counter puncher and Machida is very evasive. It could be a snoozer. It just depends on what kind of action they bring to the table.
i sure hope chuck is focused on rashad and not titles.
chcu kis my favorite fighter but before he gets a title shot at HW he needs to win and defend the LHW title once and win a HW fight.
The vanilla gorilla is also very over rated. He couldn’t finish Herring, who in round 3 was a doormat. Randy scooped up Gonzaga a few times and slammed him and out boxed Tim Sylvia. Brock layed and prayed for 3 rounds and did nothing on the ground but knee to the side. He has no submissions and will probably get smoked in the face a few times in this one as his stand up stance is very poor.
So GSP not being able to finish Fitch makes GSP overrated? Its more a testament to Herring that he survived! How could you say Brock is overrated when hes not even in rankings yet?
Apples to oranges dude. GSP threw everything at Fitch and Fitch managed to get up and battle back. There wasn’t such a size difference. Brock clearly didn’t know how to unturtle Herring. I was actually kind of funny at some points. Yeah there was the odd knee, but they weren’t looking like they were taking him anywhere.
Brock definitely sat there with a stunned look on his face (what do I do now?) more than a few times. He won’t be able to do that with Randy or he will get finished. Randy’s RELENTLESS pace may be to much for the inexperienced Lesnar.
Actually, Brock was methodical because he did not want to get caught in a sub (see : Mir, Frank).
Brock controlled that fight from the very beginning.
The stunned look was on Herring’s face, not Brock’s.
Chuck will lose if they fight again. It would be more like the 1st fight.
The more i read about the liddell haters saying he doesnt deserve a title shot if he wins becuase he is danas bum boy, makes me dislike lesnar for some reason!!! It seems to be ok for rampage to come in and 1 fight against eastman (Shitheap fighter) then get a title shot and even worse is lesnar he gets sub within 2mins of his opening fight, then he wins his 2nd and he gets a title shot!! For real, who deserves a title shot more? A guy who has completely dominated the sport at his weight division for years and fought the best of the best or a new comer who has a 1 in 1 record??mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Liddell is more deserving than any fighter I can think of, it was shocking he didnt get a rematch instantly against rampage considering how long he held the belt for!!!!!!!
All yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee chuck haters are gony eat your shitty words in around 6months when liddell starts to steam roll the entire division once again. The HW v Randy wont happen although it would be fun, I also think Liddell will fight and defeat Anderson for the first time in the ufc….. just wait and see!!!!
I definatly think in sometime chuck liddell should move up and knockout the natural once again. Leave himself a legacy… but for now it rashad evans!!
If Chuck beats Rashad, I expect him to beat Forrest because Rashad is like a short Forrest with better wrestling. And I’ve been thinking for awhile that if Chuck loses one more time at LHW then he would want to stop cutting weight and go for the HW title because the HW division is easier than the LHW division.
f*ck lidell its like duece 4 said chucks only saying this now b/c he knows he can beat couture because couture is overated in the first place
Chuck has openly said he would like to fight Mirko…a HW considered much more dangerous than Randy, and Fedor…no need to explain Fedor. I dont think Chuck is “chasing” Randy to get the HW belt, I think he just sees it that Randy has moved up to HW and hes doing well so far…Chuck knows he beat Randy twice so hes thinking he might have a good run at HW. I met Chuck in person and hes a prety stout dude. His legs are small that the only thing I can think of. Hes a true 6′2 and probably walks around at 230…maybe 240 if hes loading up on the Budlight
Lesnar does not deserve this shot. But he is getting it so whatever. Liddell isn’t Dana’s boy. Dana owes alot to Chuck for helping him keep the UFC going back in the day and for being the face of it. So maybe Chuck gets what he wants because he is owed it or maybe Dana is scared of him. GG sux. GSP is a machine.
Chuck is definitely Dana’s boy. Dana used to manage Chuck as a fighter even before the Fertitas bought the UFC. That’s not to say Chuck has not earned his legacy and is deserving of a title shot since he ruled the division for so long, but he definitely gets preferential treatment from Dana.
he fact that fact that dana white says couture is the greatest ufc fighter of all time is an insult to the sport if dana really trully thought this he would have agreed to that cross promotion fight with fide like 4 years ago when they wanted their champ fedor to completely dismember the UFC’s champ
the fact that dana*
Off Topic. I just got done watching the UFC count down and good for Matt Hamill. One hella of an up and coming fighter (who yes, owns Bisping) getting better with his speech and super hot Fiancee. Mad Props Hamill!!!!!!
pride*
That would be awsome if Randy is able to come out on top
Randy and Chuck are the biggest stars the UFC has ever had Randy would take the 4th fight He knows chucks game to a tee
He also knows that Chucks game knocked him out twice and retired him once. I’m not saying that Randy would win or lose but just because everyone is talking about him right now, doesn’t mean that he could necessarily beat Chuck.
I hope Chuck atleast has to establish himself in the heavyweight division and fight people and doesnt just get an instant title shot because he’s old and famous.
That is if Rashad doesn’t Roy Jones him on saturday.
Sorry guys this is completely off topic…
Who wants to see Brock KILL Roy ‘fat fuck’ Nelson?!?!?!
I DO!!!!
If Chuck wants a legacy he should be talking about Anderson Silva. Notice that he isn’t, he’s talking about beating up senior citizens. I’d love to see him talk about Spider. Then I’d respect Chuck a little more, otherwise it seems like he gets fed the right dudes so he’ll keep winning and bring in more money.
Obviously he’s a great fighter, I don’t want to take that away or anything.
While beating Anderson Silva would be a great achievement, I don’t think it would be quite the same as winning the heavyweight belt. This is especially true if he if able to hold both belts in both weight classes simultaneously. I would love to see Chuck Liddell face Anderson Silva though. I would have trouble deciding who I would want to win. Kind of like with Randy and Brock.
MANIA,
Again, my comments aren’t all being posted. Like 2 or 3 are still in limbo. I usually see that they have appeared over night while I am sleeping or they just never show up. I never say anything derogatory. Not trying to be difficult, I am just curious.
I love see Chuck in the Heavyweight Division, but i like to see him againts AA or CC, maybe Randy… but them… maybe Shane Carwin, other match up not will be very good for The Iceman… Lesnar, Cain Velasquez, Nog??? this will be very good fights but very bad fights for the iceman