“Honestly, I think I can test him anywhere. He’s got big, heavy hands. Everyone says he punches hard and he probably does. But again, he doesn’t punch properly, in my opinion. He swings his hands, he moves his body back and forth trying to get as much power as he can, but there’s really no snap behind it. You can usually see the punches coming. I’m going to do what I need to do. If it goes to the ground, I’ll probably break his leg. I mean, no question. I will break his leg. If he gives it to me, I’m going to break it.”

– Elite XC heavyweight fighter and MMA legend Ken Shamrock tells Sherdog.com that he sees weaknesses in Kimbo Slice’s best attribute as a fighter. It’s also interesting he says he’s going to go after Slice’s leg. Leg locks are and advanced jiu jitsu move and not even allowed in most beginner or intermediate tournaments because they can cause so much damage and are difficult to defend. “El Guapo” — who has tapped to Shamrock leg locks on two separate occasions — will have to school his student on how to properly defend those or he’ll end up like Brock Lesnar against Frank Mir. Of course, it’s entirely possible that Shamrock could be snoring before he even gets a chance to take the fight to the mat. We’ll see on October 4.

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Comment by WebGarden
2008-08-28 13:17:03

As much as I’d like Ken to follow through on his statement, I feel he’ll likely suffer a harsh KO.

Comment by Chase
2008-08-28 13:21:34

Ken I hope you win, but I see your old ass trying to stand up, and get knocked the hell out with your Frigile Glass Jaw, I hope you take it to the ground and just sub this guy. then you can go down a legend still, and not some has been losing 10 fights in a row.

Comment by DBG
2008-08-28 16:00:35

He’s pretty much saying that he’s going to stand with Kimbo not smart for a guy with a less of a chin than Thompson Shamrock is gonna get Knocked out.

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Comment by DirtbagHtr
2008-08-28 20:57:20

OverRated/Hyped vs Over the Hill, lmao

 
 
Comment by Ca$z
2008-08-29 04:45:41

I cant believe I want KEN SHAMROCK to win a fight. I always thought he was punching bag for the new schoolers to look good against but I do actually wanna see him win this one!

Unfortunately I see him going down in identical fashion to Bo Cantrell!

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Comment by MoonUK
2008-08-28 13:22:45

Kimbo has a very similar punchin style as Buzz Berry & we all know how that went for Kenny.

I hope he does not try to keep it standing, just please try and brake his leg.

Comment by JV
2008-08-28 13:44:06

We all know the Shamrock ego! This fight is just so Kimbo can look good, with a recognizable name! I really hope Ken trys to get it to the ground too! That would be his only hope!

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Comment by SweetSilence
2008-08-28 14:47:49

I suspect the fight will get to the ground just not on Ken’s terms.. Ken doesn’t move well for his size..

 
Comment by Cogito Ergo Sum
2008-08-28 15:21:43

He sounds confident enough but one thing that really irks me that nobody is pointing out… Ken is a natural LHW who IMO may be able to drop down to MW. He’s on a big losing streak and has the classic glass jaw these days. Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to bash Ken here and although he is not the fighter he once was I have all the respect in the world for this guy because he leaves it all in the the ring. He may not be good anymore but he never backs down. Anyway to my point all of these disadvantages that Ken has agaisnt Kimbo I will remember when Ken taps Kimbo. Seriously look at it, we all thought Thompson would try to bang with Kimbo but he just kept diving at his legs. Ken has a much better takedown and ground game so I really don’t think Kimbo has a chance of winning this. He may be a striker but I think Elite made a mistake here. If Ken loses you all can call me on it, its all good but here’s to saying an over the hill, aging, glass jawed, LHW is going to submit Kimbo!

 
 
Comment by DJR
2008-08-28 14:16:10

I’m with you all. If Ken fights a smart fight, he will win. Kimbo is so one dimentional is sad. Look for the takedown, Kimbo has zero wrestling. Get Kimbo down, he is awful on his back. G&P him, or submit him, either way his defense stinks. If all else fails Ken should fight smart on his feet, Kimbo has terrible cardio, and will gas out. The moral is Kimbo sucks, so don’t play into the only thing he does well…Brawl

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Comment by CAP
2008-08-28 14:40:06

We’ll see if tappin’ out is for bitches!!

Come on Ken, tell me you got one left!

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Comment by Brian "Bisping-Hater"
2008-08-28 19:33:18

I am so ready for this. If Ken can fight like the first Tito match where he was all heart (and swelling). I want to see Kimbo lose just so the nuthuggers quit talking him up. He is bad but could not beat anyone with any skill.

 
 
 
Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 13:47:08

Zzzzzzz…

Comment by BNF
2008-08-28 15:09:04

The only way I can get excited for this fight is if my wife gives me a hummer during it.

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Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 15:16:03

Hahahaha!!!

Ditto.

 
Comment by James S
2008-08-28 15:23:03

You want BNF’s wife to give you a hummer? That’s just uncalled for.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 15:29:29

LMAO.

That’s not what I meant, ya cheeky sonofagun! ;)

 
Comment by BNF
2008-08-28 15:31:15

LOL!

 
Comment by Cogito Ergo Sum
2008-08-28 15:36:51

Same here if your wife was giving me a hummer during this I’d be stoked for it. :)

 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 15:37:40

me too!!!

 
Comment by BNF
2008-08-28 15:41:38

Its even better when she takes out her teeth… Awww gummers…

 
Comment by Jrandolph
2008-08-28 15:52:20

My wife will never buy me a car.

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-08-28 16:23:34

hahahahahaha wow

 
 
 
2008-08-28 14:11:50

I thought of something funny. john’s rumor of couture/lesner is almost like the movie where arnold walks bythe rock and says something, like a passing of the torch. except Randy is an olympic level wrestler with years of experience and been an underdog for almost every big fight he won. Couture by submission or decision!

Comment by Chase
2008-08-28 14:26:30

I don’t think Randys level of wrestling is enuff to stop lesnars with his wrestling pluse his size and strength. I see lesnar winning it By GNP or TKO. that fight would be awesome though.

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Comment by Adam
2008-09-01 15:15:59

This fight will be a complete joke. i give it a min or less totall blow out by kimbo. At this point kimbo slice is being spoon fed his opponents. i dont think he’s a push over but i do think that he’s got to step up his game. and fighting Ken sham rock is just embarassing. Ken shamrock has never been nor will be ever be “the worlds most dangerous man” that title probally belongs to fedor at this point or anderson silva. For kimbo to get the fights he needs he’s gonna have to go to the UFC Dana white might hate him but he’d take him in a sec. With these new fight sponsors like afflicion and wec Dana white’s gonnna want all the attention he can get. And who better than kimbo slice. Quote me on this hate him or love him kimbo will someday fight in the ufc. But kimbo is 34 and let’s face it he’s got about 6 good years of prime left after that unless your dan severn or randy coutoure your done. But dont get me wrong every once in a while watching a wash up get the beating of his life to make a pay check (Tank Abbot) is amuzing. But lets face it this fight with ken shamrock and kimbo is absolute bull shit! Dream fight’s kimbo slice vs Chuck Liddell, Brock lesnar, tim silvia and just for fun andre orlowski cause i fucking hate the pit bull. The pit bull hates to engage and i’d love to see him get the hell beat out of him. But kimbo and liddell would have such a huge draw to watch the fight i bet it would set records!

 
 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 13:17:08

OOOKKKKKK….we shall see Ken…I’ve been listening to your threats for years now…we’re waiting…

 
Comment by FukStyck
2008-08-28 13:17:42

Break that fucker Ken!!! Whooooooo

 
Comment by FukStyck
2008-08-28 13:18:01

Break it Ken!!!!!!

Comment by CAP
2008-08-28 15:08:26

We’ll see if tappin out is for bitches Kimbo!

 
 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 13:18:31

would’ve rather heard him say….”well, I haven’t won a fight for years now so I’m going to give it my best shot and hope for the best”

Comment by SweetSilence
2008-08-28 14:51:09

Humble was never Ken’s strong suit.. Unfortunately neither was MMA =/

Comment by PW
2008-08-28 15:50:43

Yeah, there are lots of sucky fighters in the UFC Hall of Fame.

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Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-08-28 16:29:22

They were the pioneers of the UFC. They were doing it way before it became this huge. They deserve some recognition.

 
Comment by TheNegation
2008-08-29 16:32:40

Yep. During that time, they were the best of the best. The sport of MMA has just evolved so much during the past decade or so.

 
 
 
 
Comment by matt
2008-08-28 13:23:40

to me it sounds like he wants to stand up with kimbo, and the only way will the fight will hit the ground is if kimbo takes their (highly unlikely). I think if ken tries to stand he is an idiot and will probably get seriously hurt he needs to get inside and clinch with kimbo what is the worse that can happen their kimbo ends up on top of you on the ground who cares he has no serious ground skills yet. I hope ken fights smart and takes the fight to the ground and breaks kimbos leg because according to kimbo “tapping is for bitches”

Comment by SkeletonKey
2008-08-30 01:01:06

Matt, I know a highly reputable grammar coach I could recommend you if you’re interested. If you are, just respond to this post with one or two barely decipherable run-on sentences and I’ll send you her information.

Wait, I mean, she is really good and i think that she can defanitely help with the speeling of wurds and wear to put peariods and commas and stuff like that youll like her shes is real good she nkows a lot of things about the englihs and she can teech you if u want let me now pleas if u want her infomation and i can give u

 
 
Comment by StabToTheLiver
2008-08-28 13:23:59

Beat his ass kenny boy, show the world this guy is nothing more than a 1 trick pony

 
Comment by mmamac
2008-08-28 13:24:23

This will be the only time I will pull for Frank. The dude is a washed up prick, who could only win a cheap punch bar fight. Since his up to fight overrate Kimbo, I am all in for Frank showing him MMA…even if it is from Frank Shamrock’s washed up style.
WAR SHAMROCK!!!

Comment by JRK
2008-08-28 13:28:24

Frank?! You might want to root for someone who’s actually in the fight. It’s KEN SHAMROCK who’s fighting. Frank won’t have his braces off by then. :)

In a fight between Superman and Darth Vader, the winner would be Chuck Norris. :)

 
Comment by Crazy
2008-08-28 13:29:12

WOW…….. bro can your read? Its Ken not FRANK! i know you must have just found this site and want people to think you know things. but come on, you cant even read the correct name.

Comment by mmamac
2008-08-28 14:02:03

Oh sh*t, Ken is still alive?
Ken / Frank you know who I’m talking about!

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Comment by Crazy
2008-08-28 14:19:29

all im askin is that you accually read things before you type.

 
Comment by Cooney in 6
2008-08-28 14:43:19

another “hardcore MMA fan”….unreal…

 
Comment by MoonUK
2008-08-28 15:33:28

Man, lay off the guy! One mistake and d!cks like you leap on the guy. Try some humour in you reply (like JRK) when pulling someone up on their facts.

 
Comment by brendan
2008-08-28 23:13:44

frank shamrock would own kimbo no problem, ken on the other hand… NOT so much!

 
 
 
 
Comment by matt
2008-08-28 13:24:40

ken should break because according to kimbo “tapping is for bitches”

 
Comment by JRK
2008-08-28 13:25:52

Ken, just friggin’ retire already! As technically incorrect as Kimbo’s striking is, Ken’s is probably worse. Not only that, he usually uses his face to block punches! I see this ending with Ken being carried out in a stretcher. Hello Shady Acres…

 
Comment by DB
2008-08-28 13:27:19

No question, Ken can break his leg if it hits the ground. As for his other comments, he’s pretty much right, but that doesn’t mean he should stand with Kimbo. Like him or not, Kimbo has big power in his punches. True, he lacks defence and can get tagged, but Ken’s best shot at winning is obviously on the ground. Please Ken, I hate you too, but you need to end the Kimbo hype train, now.

 
Comment by ryan
2008-08-28 13:32:05

I hope ken wins!!!!!!

WAR KEN!

for once in my life im cheering for ken.

 
Comment by RiverHoror
2008-08-28 13:33:40

I heard Juanito Ibarra say that if Fergie gets a win over Shammy he’d retire. seriously though, i hope Shamrock pulls out a win and retires

 
Comment by b.w.
2008-08-28 13:34:15

it sounds like ken is going in with the wrong fightplan. it should’nt be if it goes to the ground for him, it should be when. asap! if he wants to win imo.

Comment by JV
2008-08-28 13:50:29

Lets just hope Ken is trying to fool Kimbo into thinking hes gona bang with him? And then come out, and go right for the takedown!

Comment by b.w.
2008-08-28 13:56:38

i was thinking just the same thing, but with kens ego, who knows?

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Comment by JV
2008-08-28 13:59:44

“Ego” Thats what I posted above, “the Shamrock ego” cause Frank is the same way.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 15:17:32

Yup, the Cung Le fight confirmed that.

Good point, JV.

 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 15:41:46

“I’m the best there is, the best there was, and the best there is now”
- Ken Shamrock

HAHAHAHAHAHA…I can’t get enough of Ken quotes…his well thought out quotes are only second to Goldie’s

 
 
 
 
Comment by CBfighter
2008-08-28 13:36:10

WHATS UP BROTHERS!!!!!!

its been out of the MMA loop for at least 3 months. i was visiting family in trinidad over the summer. but now that i’m back in school i have time to come online. what else am i supposed to do in the middle of class!

oh… y is shamrock fighting kimbo? i thought ken was finished with fighting. didn’t he lose like 8 out of 10 of his last fights?

this is the shit i come back to… lol!

Comment by PW
2008-08-28 13:49:05

Welcome back! Anyway, a large and powerful HW fighter, Brett “The Grim” Rogers, who is entering the prime years of his career, called Mimbo out for being a complete joke and a coward, so naturally Mimbo is going to show him just who the coward really is by taking a fight with a 44-year-old man who hasn’t won a fight in four years.

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-08-28 16:27:24

hahaha I do the same thing during class and between classes.

 
 
Comment by riskreturngroup
2008-08-28 13:36:43

This fight sucks SOOOO bad, I’ll obv. watch it. but is a “pity what has EXC done to MMA ” sort of way. I guess there will always be a place for spectacle fighting, but as long as everyone can recognize that it is an ugly step child of real MMA

 
Comment by RearNaked
2008-08-28 13:43:44

HAHA Ken is full of his old self. The only thing that he is
going to “break” is his record of 5 straight loses by (T)KO.
It will soon be 6! or He might break his own leg!

Comment by PW
2008-08-28 14:16:22

At his age, he’s more likely to break a hip.

Comment by JRK
2008-08-29 08:10:49

Nice one PW! Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up! lol

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Comment by DanaBlk
2008-08-28 13:47:33

Shamrock does not like to train, check out TUF3, all he did was watching tapes instead of actual training. Kimbo is old, but Shamrock is older, no cardio, no speed, way too much muscle mass. Kimbo should fight Steve Blackman, Blackman is the real deal, one snap kick to Kibmo’s skinny leg and its over.

 
Comment by Toad
2008-08-28 14:03:14

I would like to see one of the following done to kimbos leg 1)snap 2)crackle 3)Pop ….or this may happen to ken on the way out to the cage :)

 
Comment by deebow88
2008-08-28 14:08:26

i.d love to see ken snap Bimbo’s leg but i think he’s to old taking the fight to the ground is the only way Ken can win so fingers crossed then Bimbo might shut up!!!!

 
Comment by jimmy v
2008-08-28 14:11:30

so after kimbo kills ken whats next?I know why dont they bring kimbo to wrinkle oaks retirement home and let him pick his next opponent.kimbo you are a joke

 
Comment by bostonmmajunkie
2008-08-28 14:11:42

Elite is trying to pad Kimbo’s record but he STILL is in danger of losing. That’s just sad. I mean James Thompson won the fight and the judges had to rob him for Kimbo to win. Now Ken is way over the hill but even he has a good chance to beat Kimbo if the fight goes to the ground. C’mon! Can you guys imagine Kimbo against a real top HW?! He wouldn’t get out the first round.

Comment by psyqo78®™
2008-08-28 15:11:59

The fight with James Thompson didn’t go to the judges but I get what you’re saying.

 
Comment by psyqo78®™
2008-08-28 15:11:59

The fight with James Thompson didn’t go to the judges but I get what you’re saying.

 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 15:43:45

Dirty Dan robbed him not the judges

 
 
Comment by Brandon A
2008-08-28 14:12:56

I’m rooting for Ken.

 
Comment by riskreturngroup
2008-08-28 14:22:18

there is not one UFC HW that would not wipe the floor with Fergi. I really can’t think of one… anyone?

Comment by PW
2008-08-28 15:54:34

Even Justin McCully would double leg him, sit in his open guard and feed him elbows. The only way to get a UFC HW that would lose to Mimbo would be to take Danny Abbadi and shove cookies, cakes and pies up his ass until he weighs 208 pounds.

 
 
Comment by MMAMAD
2008-08-28 14:32:53

Kimbo KO in 30 seconds. Shamrock should really retire before he gets hurt.. Kimbo aint a great fighter but after seeing Kens last few fights i’d be confident i beat him myself. lol

 
Comment by DirtyML
2008-08-28 14:33:09

ken is going to take a gold medal dive dont front ken you arent a real heavyweight.

you know you love going down after a hard punch. like you did in cage rage or whatever vs buzz berry, like you did vs rich franklin, like you did in the WWE.

This is a joke.

Comment by kama kaze
2008-08-28 15:03:08

lolhaah.. i know huh.. n then he goes and to try analyze the fight like he doesn’t know whats going to happen. ur killin me Ken!

 
 
Comment by bassboy
2008-08-28 14:35:30

If Ken stands with Kimbo and gets KO’d we all got to admit that it was set up because even though Ken is old we know Kimbo is worthless on the ground and be taken down easily and submitted with little effort

 
Comment by RyanHobbs
2008-08-28 14:39:45

At least he’s not planning to stand and trade.

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-08-28 14:44:25

I never thought I’d be rooting for Ken Shamrock.

 
Comment by Cooney in 6
2008-08-28 14:45:43

WOW…for people that hate Kimbo, you sure go out of your way to comment on him, what a bunch of women on this site, Penn, GSP, and Lidell have about as much charisma and star power as a bag of rocks they are boring which is why Nike, ESPN, EA sports dont want them in commercials or try to market them, I just saw Kimbo on the new Madden 09 commercial face it ladies Kimbo is a star. PERIOD

Comment by jimmy v
2008-08-28 14:53:27

yes well gsp,liddell and penn have something kimbo will never have talent skill and wins over top ten fighters

 
Comment by LJ
2008-08-28 15:15:44

Yeah, if I owned a big company I’d much rather have some no talent thug that fights in back yards, and does security for porn companies represent me. Classy, and talented fighters like Penn, GSP, and Lidell are boring.

Once Kimbo gets exposed for what he is (street brawler), nobody will care about him. Stick him in the ring w/ Fedor and he would be toast in 15 seconds.

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-08-28 15:23:59

If having no skill and being protected by his sub-Busch league promotion appeals to you then I guess you’d fall under that characterization as well. And even though they are considerably smaller, any one of the the three guys you mentioned would kill Kimbo in the cage. Kimbo is a “movie of the week, a fucking t-shirt.”

Comment by Cooney in 6
2008-08-28 16:48:55

LOL this has been a long ass week, people love him dude, get over it

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Comment by kama kaze
2008-08-28 17:11:37

lets face it amigo, Kimbo would smash Chuck.
thats why he gets paid the big bucks! :)

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Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-08-28 17:20:22

Thats the funniest thing I’ve head all week.

 
 
 
Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 15:25:01

Cooney-

Incorrect.

Youtube and the general public made Kimbo famous. Beating up regular, fat guys in a parking lot is not charisma.

Kimbo is a manufactured star due to the internet. Much like MTV manufactures “stars” like Kim Kardashian, Tina Tequlia, that skank from I Love New York, etc.

ESPN, Nike, EA Sports are proven money making companies that are bandwagon in nature because they caters to the general public.

The general public like Kimbo, no doubt.

The general public also likes American Idol.

Draw your own conclusion there.

Comment by OJR
2008-08-28 15:26:36

oops
* they cater

BTW-

I like Kimbo’s attitude.

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Comment by LJ
2008-08-28 15:27:39

Maybe after Kimbo gets exposed, he will be on “Dancing with the Stars”! I don’t think he’d look as good in a dress as Kim Kardashian though.

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Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-08-28 15:36:42

Kimbo’s popularity is similar to the popularity of the Jonas brothers. Any true music fan knows what a joke the Jonas Brothers are, just as any true MMA fan knows what a joke Kimbo is.

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Comment by Cooney in 6
2008-08-28 16:50:49

Damn mex…you comment on Kimbo ALOT…I mean ALOT…he has your undivided attention, its kinda scary

 
Comment by the_mexicutioner
2008-08-28 17:22:02

My comment don’t live up to the man crush you apparently have on him though.

 
 
 
Comment by McArthur
2008-08-28 15:45:14

please…you can’t be serious

 
Comment by Jrandolph
2008-08-28 16:01:44

So is Britney Spears, (a star). If simply being able to put butts in the seats is the point, and that is arguable at best. Then why not have Coutre vs David Hasselhoff in Berlin. Yeah, That’ll bring in the crowd. Plus the Hoff is “a star, period” as well. We already have freak show at every county fair, leave it out of MMA.

Comment by Cooney in 6
2008-08-28 16:55:31

OK so help me out, what is KIMBO doing wrong? He KO’s mofos in Taco Bell parking lots and then smartens up does it legally in the ring for big $$$, stays humble, people love em, companies want him to market stuff, mags want him for covers, poses with anybody who asks for pics, signs kids autographs, says he’s still learning,in great shape so he respects the sport, where did he go wrong? No experience? Did Lebron have to win a title before he got his first poster, or shoe deal? HE got it before he scored ONE basket in the NBA

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Comment by PW
2008-08-28 17:16:45

What is Mimbo doing wrong? He is content to be a well-paid sideshow carnival act. Brock Lesnar has exactly the same number of professional MMA fights as Mimbo, but he fought a former world champion and a championship contender. Mimbo only wants to fight: a 48-year-old Ray Mercer who has no MMA experience; a 40-something year old bar brawling Tank Abbott with a sub-.500 record and 9 KO losses in his last 10 fights; and now a 44-year-old Ken Shamrock who has lost 7 of his 8 fights since 2002. After Mimbo’s last fight Brett Rogers, an actual legitimate fighter, got in his face and punked him out, and instead of demanding a fight with Rogers to salvage some pride and not look like a punk bitch, he is fighting Shamrock. That’s what Mimbo is doing wrong.

 
Comment by Jrandolph
2008-08-28 18:31:17

He has done nothing wrong IMO. However, if we are simply talking about doing anything by anyone to be popular for the sake of marketing, you may be right. However, Lebron had already proved long before entering the NBA that he was a highly skilled ball player. You have to understand why MMA fans dismiss Kimbo so much. The hbype is nauseating. He is marketed to us as an MMA warrior and should be feared as a top MMA fighter. If Lebron’s agent had said, pay us a huge salary, but we would like to play in the summer leagues, cause’ we’re not sure if he&