Excerpt courtesy of Five Ounces of Pain:
“As for Oct 4th; that was our spot. Shamrock with his name and giant ego butted in line to get a slice of Kevin. At 103 years of age Ken usurped our rightful place against the YouTube champ. Our sincerest hope is that Ken whips Kimbo and then we can finally euthanize the “World’s Most Dangerous Man” and relegate him to some MMA dinosaur exhibit. Maybe taxidermy him and Severn and place them on a rotating pedestal where they can endless circle each other.
If Ken proves to be more sham then rock and Fergi beats him, then the Slice hype grows even greater. Dude is already more myth then Sasquatch, Chupacabra and a fucking unicorn combined. Kevin is the black Yeti…So go ahead [Kimbo] and make us wait while you fight Tank and Shamrock. Hell, why not fight Hackney, Harold Howard, Fred Ettish and the rest of Jurassic MMA? And while your shuckin’ and duckin’ we will be hustlin’ and muscilin’ and when the bell finally tolls the only real question left is … do you wake up looking at canvas or arena lights?”
– Elite XC heavyweight Brett Rogers and his Minnesota camp, Team Bison, issued a letter to Five Ounces Of Pain voicing their disapproval over the company’s recent announcement of Ken Shamrock vs. Kimbo Slice for the October 4 card on CBS. Many people, including Rogers, believed “The Grim” would get the next crack at the “YouTube champion,” especially after the post-fight fireworks in Newark, N.J., at the inaugural “Saturday Night Fights” CBS event back in May.
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I read this earlier and didn’t think it was worth a mention…my take, he needs a job. If he bitches, it does nothing but get elite upset! He stays quiet and makes money!
Phile, are you edwin? I doubt it considering you’re a HW and that dude is small, i’m trying to find your myspace!
Are you kidding? People know who Kimbo is. Average folks watching MMA don’t know who Brett Rogers is. Stay quiet and make money? He is single-handedly hype the match-up and building for an inevitable showdown. And when the fight (or if the fight) actually happens, he will be able to take over Kimbo’s spotlight with a win. And Elite will have another HW they can promote heavily. …Or the Kimbo train will keep rolling and Rogers at least talked his way to a bigger payday through self-marketing.
It’s in question if that fight happens anytime soon though since Bas is being very selective on which fights he lets Kimbo take.
lol you really think that? shamrock SHOULD submit kimbo, elite SHOULD fold and rogers won’t face kimbo! Dana will feed him to lesner and get rid of him once and for all!
Remember when Shamrock was trying to sue the UFC for not giving him his last 2 fights? They should give them him. First opponent, Brock Lesnar. Second opponent (assuming he survives) Brock Lesnar. Then see how much he wants to fight there hahaha.
Aren’t you Sable?
I’ll say it again: I can’t believe I’m rooting for Shamrock.
Harry Triangle- hahaha no. I just think Brock would be the most likely to retire him.
By the way, it is an honor to talk to you Heath Herring. Hope your eye gets better.
Enough of this smack talk! Brett Rogers should be fighting Kimbo and not Ken!!Kimbo only wants to face great fighters that are waaaay past their prime[i.e.Tank Abbott]…
Heath Herring? whats his nickname?
How in the world is 215lb Ken Shamrock going to beat the 250lb Dumbo Slice??? Dumbo will just try to knock Shamrock’s head off or lay on him for three rounds.
LMAO. That letter was hysterical.
Well thought out letter… who’s Brett’s writer?..lol
yeah that whole “Black Yeti” line was great. Mr. Ferguson should use that as his nickname for his fake name. Kimbo ‘Black Yeti’ Slice. yeah thats nice.
Mania, you are so right about two people writing it. When I was reading it, the first half, I was laughing to myslelf the whole time thinking “these are NOT Brett Rodger’s words, he did not say/write this”.
And then I got to the paragraph beginning with “As for Oct. 4th” and I was like “ah ha, so this is where Brett takes a turn on his own quote”
Agree. The change in tone was smart–stand up for Elite (the hand that feeds you), while slapping around Shamrock and Bimbo. It made me laugh.
****To all guys who said I don’t know shit***
Manny paquio vs De la hoya will be exactly when I predicted (to the exact date) over 6 weeks ago! You guys didn’t believe me, even called me out, where are you guys now? Mania, can you find the exact date of me having this breaking news?
Sure, why not? He got nothing better to do. LOL
Nah, but seriously Mania, what happened to the ARCHIVE???
lol FU mike. You remember me calling this right. you guys googled it and nothing…I got laughed at!
LOL. I remember Kev. You announced it and you had a few old school boxing haters hating on you.
I remember KEvin. The bad news is this. I heard from my drinkin’ buddy[who’s a hardcore PAcman fan, like we all are here in the Philippines] that PAcman withdrew from the fight with Oscar because he was dissatisfied with the purse money he’s gonna get. He wants a bigger share because I think he’s “prime-time” enough not to have change for a purse from a fight with the Golden Boy. And IMO, Oscar’s past his prime so his purse[whatever that amount is] shouldn’t be that much!
Good call, Kev. As an affirmed Manny nuthugger (I’m Pinoy after all), I can’t go against my boy. ODLH in his prime would beat down Manny in his prime, but at this age, I think Oscar will lose to Manny.
The problem with DLH not getting the money, is that he is promoting the fight. Its his company. He should get as much as he can. Thats why he always makes so much money. That is also why everyone wants to fight him, because, it will always be a huge fight with huge paydays… he wont really retire for quite sometime since Mayweather is such a puss.
Kevin - who the hell cares that you predicted the date right. What do you want?
ODLH is the first person to beat Mayweather, widely considered the best P4P in the world, on any official scorecard. Mayweather won by split decision, just last year. To think that ODLH doesn’t have a chance against Pacquaio is just wishful thinking.
Now, can we get off of the washed-up (boxing) and back to the new P4P champion of combat sports?
At this point, I am more impressed with Rogers letter than his fighting, and I’ve not seen anything too impressive about Slice either. I hope Shamrock makes him cry out in pain before KO’ing his overhyped ass. Shamrock is a shell of what he use to be though, so may not happen. Either way, I’m pretty disinterested.
Patriot-
Who the hell cares that you hate boxing?
What do you want?
For the MMA fans here that was probably big news but hardcore boxing fans like myself saw that match coming a mile away.
Pacman beat down Diaz and needed a big name for the PPV numbers.
DLH did not want to get smeared on the canvas by Margarito, schooled by P. Will or body snatched by Cotto.
He went after the high profile fight with the best chance for a win.
Enter : Pacman.
The real question is : how many casual fans does DLH have left because the hardcore fans abandoned him awhile ago…
I would imagine that it will be the Pacman fans that will support this PPV farce.
I got manny!
OJR, your right! This wasnt breaking news! DelaHoya had made it clear that he didnt want to face another Mexican (Margarito) And also made it clear even before that, that his wife didnt want him to fight a Puerto Rican (Cotto) And since Mayweather retired before Margarito or Cotto smashed him into retirement! The only real money fight out there is PacMan. Paul Williams is too big a risk and no pay! DelaHoya wanted two more fights by the end of the year, so after PacMan it will probably Ricky Hatton. Both of which are too small for DelaHoya!
KEVIN. i remember you posting this and me asking what your source was for the date dec.6 and you went on this big tirade about you and what you did and didnt know and how we’d all see. ok you did predict the date right-props for that, but this fight had been discussed weeks before you posted this info. im not just saying this to pi$$ you off, it is just a fact. tell me how you think manny is going go about winning this fight. you do realize that oscar is about 25-30 lbs bigger, is about 6 inches taller and no telling what kind of reach advantage he has. manny started his career at 118 lbs and just recenty moved up to lw(135) and oscars last fight with mayweather was at jm (154). even if oscar agrees to come in at ww(147) he will still have a huge size and power advantage. even iole at yahoo is calling this fight a farce. manny is a great boxer but there comes a point where size does matter. and everyone who is saying that oscar is only taking this fight for an easy pay day is absolutley correct.
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U want a GOod Inside news! I am hearing a lot of rumors about Couture possibly headlining UFC 91 in portland Oregon. What I hear is that the main event will be:
Brock vs. Couture, winner face the winner of nog vs. Mir to unify the title!
WTF??? I hope your right but would Randy consider Lesner good enough for him to waste a fight on?? why not just fight for the gold right away? I hope your right I’m attending my first Live event in Portland.
me too! brock vs randy would make me wet my pants.
Yeah I would be stoked on Rampage too, any headliner besides Florian/Stevenson. How about Couture/Rampage?
I’d like to believe this, but it’s too much to hope for. It sounds silly, but stylistically I think Randy would do better against Nog than Lesnar. I don’t see Randy’s greco moves against the cage working with Lesnar.
Trust me guys, when I heard it I was just as baffled as the rest of you. If True, I would be excited because I think Brock could pound Randy’s face in!
Bloodymess: HOw could he fight Nog right away when Nog is booked to fight Mir in december?
This is also interesting (my friend in Vegas wrote this):
Randy is back training at Xtreme Couture Getting ready for…
Randy is back in the gym training. Don’t know who for but I do know that he is getting ready to fight somebody. Fedor maybe????
I do train at Xtreme Couture and I am on the amateur team so this is a first hand source. Let the speculation/trolling/flaming begin.
Too bad its just a rumor john. Dam that shit had me excited, Randy back in the UFC!!! Randy/Brock would be a big time PPV in buys! I really hope it comes true!
Simple, wait till march and fight the winner.
That fight would make me soooo happy. Please let this rumor be true. If you are just messing with us…so help me.
I am not joking, but I dont know how true this is!
I would LOVE Brock vs Couture!! I think Randy might just get hospitalized in that one. But would they really do that as Randy is still (it sickens me to say this!) UFC champ? I would have thought an octagon return would be vs BiG Nog, to unify their belts?
john - I have very serious doubts about a Couture vs. Lesnar fight. But, I’ll take it if it comes to that. I think it could be a “battle of the ages” type of fight: Seasoned Champion vs. Rookie Super Athlete.
chefdaddy - If (big, impossible if) Couture faces Lesnar, I can’t see how it will be for the title. I’d guess it would have to be a non-title fight. This would allow Couture to retain his belt, and potentially face Nog on his way out. Then again, we know that the UFC doesn’t allow fighters to do title fights on their last fight of the contract.
Regarding Rogers… it’s just hype! Good job, too. The faux thug talk is laughable, but still it’s a decent way to create buzz around two relatively unknowns (Kimbo being relatively unknown, and Rogers being completely unknown).
Nice two chances to smear Randy’s name. Good luck to the UFC, after all Randy has done I’d rather not see him fight anymore. Lol I’m content seeing his awful commercial for the Scorpion King half a million times
IMO, the only possible opponents for Couture (besides Fedor0 would be Lesnar and Werdum
Who gives a shit? Boxing sucks!!
Agreed… use to be a huge fan, but can’t stand to watch it anymore.
Anybody know what up with Caplan’s Site? It says SUSPENDED.
” As for Oct 4th; that was our spot. Shamrock with his name and giant ego butted in line to get a slice of Kevin. At 103 years of age Ken usurped our rightful place against the YouTube champ. Our sincerest hope is that Ken whips Kimbo and then we can finally euthanize the “World’s Most Dangerous Man” and relegate him to some MMA dinosaur exhibit. Maybe taxidermy him and Severn and place them on a rotating pedestal where they can endless circle each other.
If Ken proves to be more sham then rock and Fergi beats him, then the Slice hype grows even greater. Dude is already more myth then Sasquatch, Chupacabra and a fucking unicorn combined. Kevin is the black Yeti. ”
OMG.. now that is some funny ass sh235%t. hehehehehehehehehe
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i was laughing my ass off at that entire thing! classic
thats just too damn funny!
He calls Kimbo, Fergie! LMAO!
Reading this, he hyped the fight up in my eyes already and they aren’t even booked to fight each other.
Good stuff, I am starting to like this Grim kat!
LOL…can you say schizophrenia!!?? Although it was some quality smack talk.
“If Ken proves to be more sham then rock and Fergi beats him, then the Slice hype grows even greater. Dude is already more myth then Sasquatch, Chupacabra and a fucking unicorn combined. Kevin is the black Yeti.”
LOL great quote.
I like Rogers more and more. Go BIG BLACK!
That was a strangely written letter. It looks like it had more contributing writers than the Declaration of Independence. Still, I agree with the latter portion suggesting that Mimbo is a punk for ducking The Grim. He could have and should have DEMANDED that Elite make that fight happen after the way Grim faced him at the post-fight press conference. But he didn’t, choosing instead to fight yet another way over the hill fighter. Here’s hoping that Ken doesn’t let his pride interfere with taking Mimbo to the mat and slapping a figure-4 on him.
PW - No doubt. That was my thought too when I read it. Well-crafted, stick a few typos or grammar errors in there to make it look hastily written by a pissed off Rogers, etc. When he says he’s only pissed at Kimbo and Shamrock, not EliteXC… c’mon. Give me a break.
black Yeti
I will never forget this quote.
Yea that letter was strange. It started on a very mature and positive note, but then seemed to slip into the territory of immature rambling.
That was awesome smack talk. You gotta admit. I think that is just hilarious and I am now an even bigger fan of Brett Rogers. I also watch Kimbo fights and I am a fan of him too. I just don’t think he is the baddest man or even close. I just think that he is a tough guy that is transitioning into MMA and that, to me, is interesting.
that was good stuff. LOL hope there is a retaliation!!!
He retaliated to Chuck. Why not Brett Rogers? Only time will tell. If they sincerely don’t like eachother then they should take it to the streets. If they are both so ghetto, then they can do it there……and put it on youtube of course.
The reason he possibly retaliated to Chuck is because he knows that he will never have to fight Chuck
I was thinking the same thing actually.
Elite my ass. Elite is so low on the food chain, they have to look up to see bottom.
i think brett’s agent wrote the first half, and Brett took over in the middle and wrote the rest!
hahaha you might be right.
Wow this guy kicks ass and talks a good game. He had me laughing. I think he might be one of few that give EXC any credit. I think he could take Kimbo and Shamrock at the same time.. Now that would sell some PPV’s.
I still wouldn’t buy it..
Top notch shit talk if you ask me
Brett “The Black Yeti” Rogers. It has a ring to it.
I like the dinosaur references about Shamrock. Made me laugh.
HAHAHAHA!! LMAO @ 103 years old…mma dinosaur exibit.. daym! all that talk deserve some slaps KIMBO! This fight is the only 1 i’m interested in for Kimbo…. or Chuck
haha bretts a funny guy. i cant wait for kimbo’s retaliation, though i cant see it being half as funny
Please. What is the over/under on Kimbo’s reading/writing skill level? Third grade?
yeah if he does say anything im sure it will be a video like his response to chuck. plus videos are bas’s thing too.
This is the perfect description of Kimbo Slice!!! I love it and I have a newfound respect for Brett Rogers!! How funny would that be if Kimbo does fight hackney after the shamrock fight? Over hyped peice of crap, Kimbo Slice is everything that is wrong with MMA.
your a disgrace to all gsp fans .. DID YOU KNOW GSP LIKES KIMBO. no what??? you gonna change your name or opinion ya band waggon jumpin chump.
I really want to go to Kimbo’s home in the middle of the night and while he is sleeping I want to shave his beard off.
Maybe taxidermy him and Severn and place them on a rotating pedestal where they can endless circle each other.
Thats fucking hilarious.
Kimbo will just talk a whole lot of shit and not back it up like he always does.
He’s too busy beating up old men and pretending like that is the upper echelon of mixed martial arts.
Kimbo is a joke, he is to MMA what N’Sync is to music.
Something for the mush-head children to get excited about.
Or to paraphrase the suddenly hilarious Brett Rogers: “…that street thug B.S. might work well with the fan bois and the Internet dorks who think your street cred means something..”
when did kimbo ever pretend he was the upper echelon of anything? he sucks but hes been very honest about his skills
I guess i should have said “EliteXC portrays him as the upper echelon of mixed martial arts.” due to them putting him as a main event status as basically an amateur.
Kimbo is not really to blame for this solely, but I’m sure if he “demanded” to fight Rogers they would let him.
Shamrock will get more views though.
He did an interview and basically said he would KO Liddell, if your talking like that about one of the greats, then Your basically saying your up there.
And this article ladies and gentlemen, is why mma is turning into a joke. Save this shit talking bullshit for wwe you poser pricks.
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“And while your shuckin’ and duckin’ we will be hustlin’ and muscilin’”
That is some damn quotable stuff right there. Made me pee my pants.
On one hand i want to laugh and be pissed off that alot of America that haven’t got to watch ufc,or Pride,that have got to see elite xc think that,that is what mma is all about and that Ken Shamrock and Kimbo are the badest of the bad. That does Piss me Off.On the other hand Rodgers i think you are nothing of a fighter but i will be your biggest fan the nite you do fight Kimbo but just as long as the fight lasts,as soon as it is over,I’m back to hatin on youand the rest of elite.Isn’t one of his training partners Big Black From Rob and Big Haaahhahahahahahha. Hey way off subject But does any body know what happened with the Lee Murry Bank robbery Or what ever it was!!!
Shammy will beat Kimbo in round 1. I teach BJJ here in NC and have seen Kimbo fight. He sucks. All he has is heavy hands. No defense, no ground game, no kicks nothing. Ken is old and all of that but he will score with a big knee or slam then it is bye bye kimbo on the ground. After that xc will have him fight again. Either that of Shammy takes a dive.
Shammy will take a dive, for sure.
I’m guessing Bo Cantrell will look manly after his performance.
just cause you teach bjj doesent meen your an expert.. Your just some wannabee fighter hiding in the gym talkin smack about a fighter that murder you in seconds.
I WILL BET YOU TWO HUNDRED & FIFTY FIVE DOLLARS KEN GETS KTFO in THE 1st ROUND.
$255? That’s an odd number. I’ll bet 254.78 that he doesn’t.
hahaha
And who gives a rats ass where you come from Some of the toughest guys i know have been raised on a farm Just cause u were raised in a big city doesn’t make u a bad ass
See: Hughes, Matt.
2 guys I hate fighting eachother. What a nightmare. This is the first time I’ve ever hoped for a double KO.
See TUF 5 finale Emerson vs Manyard.
Kimbo is a pretty cool guy but as for him as a MMA fighter he needs a lot more training he should have trained a little more before steping in the ring but when u fight guys like Bo Catrell, Tank and Ray Mercer is impossible to lose and not go undefeted like Kimbo has. Shamrock could take this one because he is more experienced but i would rather see Ken fight Frank Shamrock personaly. As for Chuck vs. Kimbo i can t understand how people say that they should fight soon, Liddell has been trainig Martial Arts since he was 12 and knows the game way better, Kimbo has been fighting in the streets and trained Martial Arts for only like a year. It would a slaughter becaus Chuck has way more tools than Bimbo. I actually saw a interview on Kimbos beloved Youtube were