Yeah, a track and field clinic. Huerta is just physicaly stronger than him.

“track and field” LMAO!!!

Did Huerta just pull a Melvin Guillard????

Who just so happened to pull a Melvin on Huerta.

Ran a clinic? Whatever. Im so sick of people saying that Huerta got his ass kicked. I personally could have seen that fight go either way until the last 10 seconds when Kenny landed some good combos… neither was ever hurt. No one took an ass whoopin. And no one ran a clinic. It reminds me of when I was in high school and people would always act like their friend won a fight… when it wasnt even like that.

So where is the proof? His claims are unfounded. It was such an issue he waited almost two weeks to say something, right? By his own admission to make an acusation would be speculation. If he had any balls and really beleived this he should have said something at the post fight press conference. I mean, if he ever does get to fight BJ, is he gonna say the same thing if he is lucky enough to get BJ in “one of those positions” and BJ easily escapes? Florian may be the better overall fighter, but Huerta is just physically stronger than Kenny. Between the two, who do you think wins and arm wrestling match?

if i’m huerta fighting kenny florian i make sure i’m as sweaty as possible when i step in that octagon. i think that’s all it was kenny probably never had someone be so sweaty so early.

I’m siding with Punch you in the ovaries on this one. (Never in my life did I think I would say or type that one! Not cuz of your opinion, simply becuase of your screen name…)

I really don’t think that Kenny would just make up such a claim. Kenny is all about respect and he would not show disrespect to anyone without being VERY close to certain.

I always thought Huerta was a little grease monkey to begin with.

Yeah Rob, I’m not disagreening. Like I said, I’m not saying Huerta cheated. I’m just saying I’m sure Kenny is being honest about what he experienced.

There very well be something to it Huerta nuthuggers. There is no proof so Kenny should have kept his mouth shut. Funny thing is, if Kenny was talking about Sherk like that you would have wanted Sherk thrown out of the UFC.

I agree with DJR.
Also he has Roger’s back TWICE and Roger just rolled out of it like Kenny was a scrub on the ground. I wouldnt be surprised if he did use and type of lube.

ALSO, Roger has seemd to be able to roll out of anything in his previous fights, which made him quite famous for his scrambling abilities. HOWEVER, did he have an unfair advantage? How could Huerta out grapple Crane?

it simple VM when you have a good wrestlers that knows decent BJJ against a poor overall MMA fighter/great BJJ artist(in this case crane being and jits fighter with lil overall skill.) ive seen soo many time in grappling contest..a wrestler will mostly like get submitted by a bjj artist…but when you teach that wrestler a decent jits game, then you have trouble as a jits guy…we all know wrestler are very fast paced great conditioned athletes. he will be able to defend alot better, defend jits sweeps and inside take downs. the wrestler will be able to out work you..constantly adjusting positions. shifting weight, moving your upper torso, out muscle wrist control. when you have a guy like that…you need to be a BJJ artist world class and on top of your game 24/7….remember crane had taken a long break and was 2003 bjj champion (correct me if im off). some fighter are just amazing scramblers…sanchez,bj penn,huerta, tyson griffin, clay guida, nate diaz, gsp, anderson silva, rich franklin, henderson.most of these guy have never been submitted by your everyday jits guy that know mma..they were submitted by elite grapplers that have mastered the art of adjusting their game to MMA. some ppl are just not meant to be held down by an almost one dimensional fighter

Great post Santiago, thanks!

A good guy like huerta? The same guy that was wanting to get paid 6 figures and get ppv points, than loses and just wants a retirement package. I doubt Huerta did anything like that, but if he had a fight that he needed to do everything he possibly could to win…. that was the fight. He had a lot riding, if he beat florian he would have had a lot of negotiation leverage. Still, extremely doubtful that he would risk it.

what does wanting to get paid more have anything to do with being a good guy? If you dont ask, then how will you ever know. If it were you and your employer asking for a raise wouldnt make you a different person or a bad guy just for asking would it?

lol i wouldnt say he was asking for a raise, more so, going behind there back and complaining to the press

Wanting to get paid more is fine. Wanting to get paid more than a couple of current champs and then saying you basicallly just want a retiremnt package is stupid. He was acting like he was in a position to make demands until he lost. Maybe not a bad guy, but what do I know of him that makes him a good or bad guy. The point I was trying to make was if any time was important for him to pull all the stops for a win, it was that fight.

what would he gain by making it up? He won already. Have you ever seen him get mount and lose it? and Huerta isn’t that good to get out of it either. I applaud Kenny for calling him out. True or not, he gains nothing by saying it, so I tend to believe him!

I agree with all of you. THis is just tasteless of Kenny to do that. He got the win, no reason to bash Huerta for it! He was trying to make a shiesty accusation but in a respectful and joking way…well I am happy that we all really saw it for what it was, a tasteless act of disrespect because Kenny didnt finish a fight and because the fight didn’t live up to the expectations. Huerta has shown great submission defense and the ability to get out of bad positions since joining the UFC and non of his prior opponents complained. Sorry Kenny, but you are better than this, atleast I thought!

All you people were the same people dissing Roger when he was asking for more money. Why the change of heart? I’ve rewatched the fight and Kenny has a reasonable suspicion.

I’m still dissing Roger, but still, if it was a legit concern, kenny should have brought it up during the fight or immediately after. Not the classises thing to do it know. A little uncharacteristic of Florian.

JRV: I just rewatched it too, what part did you find suspicious? Taking into account that Roger has darker skin and black ink- their “moisture” level seemed equal. They both started out looking dry, they both started looking a little sweating around 2.5-3 minutes in, Kenny didn’t seem to have any trouble handling Roger in the clinch, Roger used the cage to get back on his feet during the 1st back mount and was 1/2 way on his feet before Kenny tried to sink anything in and I didn’t see Kenny wiping his hands on his shorts. The sub defense didn’t look unusual. Is there a particular point where you thought something was foul?

Sidebar: Goldie referring to Roger’s “nasty place” gets funnier and funnier every time I hear it.

He gave a disclaimer, so it comes down to wether you think Kenny is a liar. Obviously, I don’t know him peronally, but I’m not seeing the upside of just making this up out of the blue. He may be wrong about his final conclusions, but even he stated that.

Hmmmm…..I’ve got an idea. As NONE of us were fighting Huerta, we can speculate all we want and still not know one godd@mn thing of what we’re talking about. Florian however, WAS in the ring, thus giving him a better view than even those with HD (that comment was laughable). Huerta= innocent until proven guilty. Florian=who actually made contact with Huerta (unlike any of us) and tends to be a very respectful guy, KNOWS far more than we can GUESS.

Well then why would he say it, and not be sure at the same time? What sense does that make? Why call someone out on something that your not 100% sure on? Huerta would be the last one to do something like that. Do you guys not remember Huerta/Guillard??? Guillard did that to Huerta in their fight and got caught!

Just because it was done to him doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t do it someone else. Neither Kenny or Roger seem like dishonest guys to me, but it’s an allegation that has to be taken seriously. If there is a way to investigate that’s what needs to happen.

thank you chef. kenflo is one of the classiest guys around. ppl don’t like him cuz of the finishing comment he made and the fact he doesn’t look like a fighter. the will jump on him first opportunity they get and this is it i guess. cut him some slack. i bet he’s tellin the truth…even if roger didn’t specifically do anything, maybe he’s just super sweaty. kenny gains nothing by this and he’s smarter than to say it if he didn’t actually experience it.

That’s right chef…it comes down to the fact that Kenny was in the ring with Huerta…not us. I’m not saying that Huerta was lubed up but I don’t see why Kenny would make that up. He won the fight and he looked great in the fight in my opinion. He frustrated Roger and Roger never had a chance to mount much of an attack…it was a well executed gameplan. Kenny has fought a lot of guys and spars all the time so I believe him when he says he knows the difference between sweat and something else but no one will ever know if Huerta had something on him. It’s impossible to rewatch the fight to see if this is true. Kenny has always been able to maintain dominant positions in all of his fights and Huerta has some insane escapes so you can’t judge it based on that. There’s no way to investigate such a thing so it should just be dropped. Kenny probably shouldn’t have said anything at all but maybe he’s just trying to raise a flag for the next time Huerta fights someone. Either way…Kenny is all class and a great ambassador of the sport and he’s an exciting and technical fighter. He’s probably the smartest fighter in the UFC as well.

You make a good point. Irrelevent to what I posted, but i get what your saying.

No doubt, James S. With all the “I had trouble mounting him”, “he gave me his back”, and “greasing it up” comments, it’s gets a little uncomfortable around here.