What interview would be complete without the trademark “Ace” black eye?
August 17th, 2008
66 Comments »
Support MMAmania.com
Burn this Feed!
Site Sponsors
What interview would be complete without the trademark “Ace” black eye?
I think hamill might take this one, …im a big fan of both of these guys but i just see hamill as a future champion.
I think it all depends on where the fight goes. Franklin will take the stand-up while Hamill definitely has the advantage on the ground as far as takedowns are concerned. However, I don’t remember that he has great G & P and I don’t think his submissions are anything special. I think this fight will be one where Hamill, if he wants to win, keeps taking him down and doesn’t do much once he gets there. Does anyone know what camp Franklin trains with, I think he kind of has his own right? I would like to seem him train more with Couture’s camp or something. I think his training growth has gotten stagnant.
I am not to interested in this match up!
Wow…go watch Elite then. This is a very interesting match-up.
no kidding..how could you not be interested in this fight? Franklin has always made exciting fights and Hamill is a freak of a wrestler. This will be interesting.
This fight should still be interesting, but when you finally get to see Franklin and Hendo on the same card and they are not fighting eachother?-It just pisses me off..
The fight should be good but we could have seen Franklin fight Hendo,Chuck or even Rashad would have been better..
PEZ, Franklin is trained by Jorge Gurgel, and YES it is time for him to move out of Ohio and finally go train with an elite camp.
JOHN, How can you keep dissing this fight??? Hamill was very one dimensional against Bisping, it was all stand up. Also, his fight agaisnt Boetsch was not one dimensional either, he laid the smack down!
I see this as a competitive fight. I already got Franklin on a parlay. The only way he loses is if he get bullied by Hamil for 8-9 minutes and loses a decision. On most of Hamill’s takedowns, his head doesn’t get too low, so he isn’t that susceptible to knees while shooting. I think that I have rooted for both of these fighters so far in every one of thier fights. If I didn’t have a vested interest in Franklin, I would be rooting for Hamill as a fan.
Well said Mike, the only thing I have a problem with is you think the only way Hamell win is by decision. Hamell is such a GREAT wrestler he can get him in a rear-naked choke, triangle choke,well any choke for that matter. And his stand-up is MUCH better, not better than Franklin but in this sport it only takes one shot. He may shock the world!!
This fight will only last if Hammill can lay ‘n pray on Franklin. Franklin’s stand up, and submissions are simply far superior (well-rounded). Can Hamill take him down? Probably, but even in the mount he has shown to have a relatively weak g ‘n p, while Rich would likely catch him in a submission. While I respect what Hamill has done, he simply isn’t ready for Ace.
I hate any match ups involving 1 dimensional wrestlers! THats why this match up doesnt excite me the least bit!
Don’t worry, Rich will make this fight excitin’, trust me…
I hope so Negation as he is one my favorite fighters! Hopefully we get to see some of the pre-Silva Franklin, taking the high profile, high risk shots, and knockin’ Hamill out! I have to agree with john partially about Hamill, I don’t see him being a truly well rounded fighter…….well, ever. He’s a powerful, determined, respectful guy who can take some punishment so I’ll wish him luck, but not against Ace!
Yeah, definitely not against Ace! If he thinks he’s gonna get lucky against Rich, well I don’t think so! hehe!!
My point exactly, he isnt well rounded. If you are going ot be 1 dimensional, I would prefer you be a Striker like Kongo or a Jits guy like Almeids…1 dimensional wrestlers like Hammil just Bore me to death! Hopefully Ace taps him on the chin and puts the BRUTE to sleep!
Hamill/Boetsch was a pretty exciting fight
It wasn’t bad at all, but Boetsch gassed in that mile high altitude and accepting that fight on 2(?) weeks notice. But Boetsch simply can’t be compared to Franklin (I know you weren’t doing that).
Hamil’s stand up isn’t all that bad. He landed some nice shots on Bisping in their fight, and he works dirty boxing in the clinch pretty well too. I’m not saying he can go toe to toe with Rich but he might land a few surprises.
I think Ace is going to atempt submitions, He doesn’t mention it in the clip but i am sure that he working alot of subs from the back. He needs to win, and he’s the favorite to do so.
I also think Hammil’s stand up is underated, in the fight with Bisping he looked crisp and he can only get better.
All he did in that fight was to jab with his chin straight up and just walked down a scared Bisping. They both looked terrible.
IF he decides decides to just TRY to stand with ACE he will get caught. As many has written before me, he isnt ready for Rich Franklin. He will loose the stand-up AND the ground game if Rich tries to submit him (dont think he will. He probably just make some attempts to put Hamill on the defence and then make his way up).
Prediction: KO by a knee to the face after a thai-clinch!
Pez- he trains with the “wizard” matt hume…look him up…franklin should have left gurgel’s dumbass along time ago and joined this guy…we would have seen 2 completly different fights with silva if he had done this…as for hamill ground game..he has nice strong take down but his skill set of just hammer fisting and bodu shot once it hits the ground will not be enough to win this fight. the bisping fight showed he can wrestle you down fairly quick, but he could not hold him down very long and would eat jabs and crosses on his approach to a grapple with bisping also dirty boxing you with his head down in an open clinch. franklins ground game is very solid. (you dont always need a black belt in BJJ to be a great ground fighter) i say hamill will look to take franklin down and eat many shot in his approaches and his clinch takedowns.
Hamill’s knee was shot going into the Bisping fight. That’s why he didn’t utilize his wrestling.
and bisping was a small LHW..VM i expected more from you than to make excuses for fighters…dont. hurt or not hurt..a fighter comes in there with his own mind made up to fight. im not taking anything away from franklin, hamill, nor bisping. hamill will take him down for sure…but i see him landing very few decisive shots and just losing top position quickly…maybe getting submitted that is all upto hamill he is strong enough to get out most attempts but with an experienced guy like franklin…expect hamill to be submitted thru his own mistakes…he comes in alot with hand down as well. bisping was cathing him alot with punches hamill didnt have to take. either way i like both of them as fighter and wish the best for both of them. and VM franklin did train with gurgel but he has isnce left that camp and training with Matt Hume.gurgel is still with franklin but only training under Hume as well.
and im not quick to write off any fighter as crappy or one dimensional..im less of a d*ck than most of the guys here…im very unbias to my facts and opinion and i call it like it is regardless of who is fighting. VM do you think hamill has gotten past putting his hands down for shots like matt hughes does? i see that his main issue…to be honest the reason he lost that fight with hamill is cuz he made the mistake of making bispign look good with his boxing by putting his hands down..and he was hurt more than he needed to be by boetch, hamill won that fight cuz boetch was crazy and though he could take down hamill and hold him there.
i think rich will distroy hamill
Winner of this should face Wanderlie. Loyoto/Thiago winner should fight Chuck/Rashad winner. Jackson vs Shogun winner to face winner of Franklil/Hamill vs Wanderlie winner. There is my UFC playoff system.
Agreed….Great weight class for the fans, very exciting stuff.
are there ever boring fights at 205?
And Forrest holds the belt without fighting for 2 years as you go through your matchups. That is gayer than Richard Simmons having a hairy nutsack repeatedly smacking him in the chin with an open mouth.
Sorry for the mental image to everyone but Scott…. LOL
Scott, I don’t ever see a “playoff system”, but perhaps you are speaking of a tournament style which the UFC no longer uses. Reference DREAM 5 if you want to find out a perfect example why not to.
That’s why you make the comments and not the matchups Scott. How can the winner of Machida and Silva go anywhere but straight to the title fight? If Rashad wins which is unlikely he should get a shot at the title 3 months after Loyoto or Thiago get their shot. Chuck needs a couple more fights to establish if he is motivated enough to get a shot at getting his belt back. You can’t go 1 from 3 or 2 from 4 straight into contention even if you are the Iceman. It would cheapen the belt and be unfair on guys who are genuine contenders.
By the way, Rich “Anus… i mean Ace!” Franklin will make absolute mince meat of Hamill. Hamill is over rated and under skilled. Hamill has been stagnant in his development which is a shame, because he might have made a mark on the LHW division if his brains matched his brawn.
Hamill is a pretty strong LHW for Rich’s LHW debut, this one will be tough.
But boy, one of Franklin’s sparring partners must have his number, because I can’t remember seeing him ever without a black eye.
rich franklin started out at 205 my friend. This is not his debut. Franklin is a very big 185 too so he wont be small at 205
“But boy, one of Franklin’s sparring partners must have his number, because I can’t remember seeing him ever without a black eye.”
ROFL
I’m starting to wonder if it’s a pre fight ritual and Rich just punch’s himself in the eye real quick..
franklin via TKO round 2, mark it!
It doesn’t matter where Hamill takes it because Rich is better in every position. When comparing the 2 Hamill has the advantage it TDs, but can not do anything when there. Franklin on his back is still dangerous. We just don’t see him in that position too often.
I think Hamill may get a TD or 2, but will do nothing with it. This fight stays standing and Rich will bloody him up pretty bad.
Do you all remember the Hamill, Bisping fight??? I still to this day tihnk he won that fight. But my point is he went the distance with bisping,(like I said, I think he beat-up Bisping). So is Franklin better than Bisping at LHW? I say NO-WAY!!! If he stays away from knees and elbows there is no way Franklin wins this one.
And your comparison of a mediocre Bisping and a once UFC champion should negate your analysis to anyone with half a brain.
agreed. Comparing Bisbing to Franklin shows you know absolutely nothing about MMA.
Triple Agreed
quadricep agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!
O.K. Enough bashing my comments, I am a big fan of both and really do not care who wins. I would love to see Hammel seeing everyone doesn’t like me now that I picked him, and I still think he will do enough if he doesn’t go to sleep.But I think you all think I am stupid because I was “comparing” Bisping to Rich. I WAS DRUNK!!!!! I do think Franklin would beat Bisping, but not Hamell.GSP4Pres, I do know MMA, I am a MMA studant, I have forgotten more MMA than you know. I do not want to be a ass-hole, I think the comparison was wrong,I apoligize a thousand times. O.K. I need anouther beer!
Why does Rich always have a black eye? Does he do that on purpose or what? I dont care who wins this match though really, because Silva kind of made Rich irrelevant, and Hamill still hasn’t impressed me yet.
I woudnt say Rich is irrelevent. Rich is too strong of a MW gate keeper and thats why hes trying LHW. Hamill doesnt have alot of skill but he makes up for it in stength. Hamill was bustin up Bisping with a jab. Its going to be a tough fight!
Franklin is better than every MW except Silva and on the same level as BFT Henderson. He’s a little more than a gatekeeper.
It’s nice to see Ace gettin’ a little love on here. The worst thing the guy has ever done is lose to the best fighter on the planet a couple times. If anything, he should get props for that, cuz after that first fight, there’s not way in hell I’d sign up for second one.
I don’t think will have any size issues I see him winning this hands down.
franklin that is
Franklin is taking this one Hamill’s lay n’ pray ain’t going to win him this fight.
GOOD NIGHT RICH!
Rich is a class act. No bullsh** dissing just straight tal;king and respect.
For the record, Rich I THINK will take this by TKO in round 2. If Hamill can handle Franklin’s striking he may have a chance of stealing a points win. MAYBE lol
how is franklin irrelivant???
he’s beaten every middle weight thrown at him apart from anderson silva.
thats retarded to say he’s not worth anything, he’s the number 2 at that division.
in no other sport is the second best person in a division considered irrelivant.
interesting he’s moved up to 205 again - its allready so stacked.
Rich will win forsure. It might not even get outta round one
Matt will win. I bet you a beer.
only ufc losses come from silva. good fight if he can keep it standing.
franklin vs hendo
Hope Franklin vs Hendo would materialize!
you gotta admit that armbar escape was pretty sick……….
im saying bro…that one even ken-flo and randy creamed over as well as mir.
rich always puts on a good show, he killed macdonald and made lutters fight exciting..
Franklin vs Henderson will be awesome if it ever happens! I really hope Rich can do well at 205 since he’s in such a tough position. He can beat up everybody except The Spider so it’s not fair to match him up with rising contenders. Rich is stuck with HUGE fights and a bigger, stronger, tougher weight class.
BTW, is anybody else getting annoyed with the (comments wont nest below this level) notes? Especially when they’re below intelligent comments. I am!
My biggest disappointment about this card is how badly I wanted to see Rich fight Henderson. They’re both on the card, but they’re fighting different fighters! In my opinion, this is a big mistake. The only thing I can think of is that if both fighters win, they’ll fight each other. However, both are fighting dangerous opponents. Franklin risks getting taken down over and over and losing a three round decision, and Henderson risks getting submitted. Bad Joe Silva!
Despite Matt Hammil’s strenght and wrestling, I still don’t think he’s in the same class with Franklin. I was kinda bummed when I first learned Rich was fighting light-heavyweight again, I wanted to see Franklin vs: Bisbing.
Imagine fighting the guy who happens to be your good friend and officiated one of your fights? Rich Franklin raised Matt Hamill’s hand when Matt won the fight over some black guy. This is definitely going to be an interesting card. Here’s a proof of that:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6007/mattwins26fj.jpg
check it out.
well not only that boogie..they both hung out together after their fights in ufc 68 heres is proof of that…;)
http://www.richfranklin.com/photogroup.asp?group=56
That is AWSOME to see, I am a big fan of both. I hope thay do that same picture and have that attitude after this fight.
I think Rich is the more mature fighter here….. dealt with both wins and losses - this fight is a crash course for him at LHW and will make or break him. I like them both but there will only be one winner. Franklin by TKO (ref stoppage) 2nd RD.