“Several people mentioned that my next opponent should be BJ Penn. Nothing is obviously signed yet, but fighting him is my number one goal. I think he deserves a chance to challenge for my belt, but we’ll see what happens in the coming weeks. I hope deeply [that my next fight is in Montreal]. The President of the UFC, Dana White, said he would like to return to Montreal before the end of the year. For my part, I do not know if I will go back in the Octagon before 2009. I had four fights in the past 12 months. So I need rest. I like my life, but sometimes I have to relax…. I make so many sacrifices for me prepare. During training camps I can hardly live. Therefore, I need to refuel psychologically.”
– UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre tells RDS.ca that he may not return to action this year because of his recent activity. “Rush” is expected to next put his 170-pound title on the line against UFC Lightweight Champion and former welterweight belt holder, BJ Penn, in a blockbuster mega fight. It was widely expected that the showdown would take place on New Year’s Eve weekend on December 27; however, with four straight wins over top contenders such as Jon Fitch, Matt Serra, Matt Hughes and Josh Koscheck, it appears that St. Pierre may need more time to recharge his batteries to get up for the biggest fight of his career against “The Prodigy.” With more than four months until possible showtime let’s hope he takes a nice long vacation and reconsiders his most recent remarks.
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I really hope we don’t have to wait till next year to see this guy fight again, already have long waits for a lot of other top fighters. The waiting game sucks. just fight him!
I really just hope they dont’ do a TUF for his fight with Penn. GSP has one of the driest personalities in the sport, he is a really nice guy but I can skip his pre fight trash talk (as there is none) and his post fight speech. The guy is more than welcome to take a break although this super fight would have made the December card the most amazingly packed UFC event ever. W/e it’ll probably be injury laden anyway.
Cogito, that is a great point. The producers of the TUF series are probably salivating over having GSP vs. BJ Penn as the coaches. Hopefully we dont get stuck waiting over half a year to see this fight because of a silly reality show.
This is terrible news if this fight doesnt take place at UFC 92 in December!
GSP was kind of a coach, actually he was an “advisor” for Season 4, The Comeback. But since they were all previous UFC fighters, they never really listened to the advisors much at all. The other advisors were Randy Couture, Marc Laimon and Mark DeLagrotti.
GSP would be the most boring coach since… GSP would be the most boring coach in the history of TUF.
I dont’ think the UFC would dare do this to us. We already have TUF 8 about to begin in September (and I am really starting to get a feeling that it will be Team USA vs Team Brazil considering that the majority of the coaches on Team Nog don’t speak English). The finale of TUF 8 is going to be in the middle of December. The earliest that they can have Season 9 is to begin taping in like February, but it wouldn’t be ready to air until May. Then we’d have about 3 months of watching it leading up to the finale, which would be July. That would mean that if BJ and GSP were coaches of TUF 9, then they would not get to fight for about 1 full year. PLUS the fact that not only would they be tying up one division by having the champ on TUF, but they would by putting TWO divisions on hold.
AWFUL idea.
The next TUF series will be held in the UK. The plan is for Bisping and Kampmann to be coaches of two teams UK vs Europe. They will then fight it out for number 1 contenders spot, if Bisping beats Leben.
#1 comtendor of what? I’m a bisping fan, but now they’ll have a number 1 contender match to fight him? if thats true, it’s lame
MoonUK: Thnks for the info.. I hope Leben can put a wrench into those plans.
My bad if this seems like a selfish and dick comment, but I get fed up with fighters fighting so little!! I know some of the fighters arnt to blame (TUF). I cant think of many examples, and there will always be excuses, but I believe that fighters should be fighting every 4 months, 5 months max.
BJ Penn- Fights every 6 months, and wants even longer rest periods now he is champ
Tito’s massive waits between fights
What was up with Nog’s seven month lay off between Herring and Sylvia?
Matt Serra- With TUF and then injuries, but where on earth is he now? He isnt fighting for ages.
I aint just blaming the fighters, but I mean, half of them seem content to fight only half the time.
Kevin: Bisping and Kampmann will fight to be the number 1 contender to fight the Champ. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.
This comes from a reliable source in the UK (I know someone who works on the web design for Setanta, who show UFC in uk)
The UFC want to break into the European market and these are 2 of the best Europeans in the UFC. They will be holding a number of UFN in Europe after this TUF series.
I guess the UFC are hoping that Bisping beats Leben, as their plans will be dust if he doesn’t.
And what if Kampmann loses to Nate the great which there’s a very good chance of.
MoonUK, there is a heck of lot riding on your TUF assumption. Not only does Bisping need to beat Leben at UFC 89, but Martin Kampmann would also need to beat Nate Marquardt coming up at UFC 88 for it to make sense.
I just letting u know that the plans are there. Maybe they’ll still do it if both lose, but not for a title shot? But i can say for defo that there will be a UFN and ultimate fighter in Europe early part of next year.
Randy Colture is about to be on the Adam Corolla show if any one wants to listen. Click on listen live.
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they’d start taping it now mike. I’t’s taped almost 6 months before it’s put on. The one in sept is already taped, and taping is for only a couple months. It could be on TV by jan. That said I have no interest in GSP on TUF or BJ agaon for that matter
They would have to have the TUF tryouts and collect fighters before they could start taping so there is no way it could be started that fast. But I agree, let’s all pray this doesn’t happen know matter how soon the start time is. That made me cringe when VM mentioned two divisions on hold.
The try outs could start tomorrow. The wouldn’t care if they held both the fighters in limbo until July or next year or whatever. The only thing I will say is I bet Penn won’t stand for it. He’d be like sure I’ll do the TUF thing but I want to beat on Florian then to keep active.
I remember an interview Rogan did with BJ and Jens after their season and Joe asked BJ if he would ever do it again and he said without hesitation, NO, and they both had a good laugh about it.
I don’t know why it is even being discussed. No way a TUF show will happen with these 2 as coaches. BJ wants to fight not coach a bunch of rookies.
I had a feeling this was coming. GSP has seemed to be disinterested with this fight from the begining. When BJ came out to the cage after the Fitch fight, GSP seemed like he wanted nothing to do with BJ. I would never say that GSP is scared, but what else could it possibly be. Why would he not be pumped about being involved in the biggest MMA fight ever??????
because he’s weak and will lose, put on the same old suit and hopefully jump off a bridge!
Did you just call GSP weak???? That is just a foolish thing to say. I happen to think BJ will win when they fight, but come on. It will be a very even fight and its hard to count GSP out after last weekends preformance.
GSP doesnt want to fight for simple reasons.
If he wins: People say GSP is great blah-vlah-vlah, same as what they are saying at the moment. All he did was beat a fat LW, of course GSP weighs more so of course he was always going to win
If he loses: All hard work and credibility is gone because he lost to a LW. People start questioning the first fight again.
It is lose lose. Apart from the money side of things maybe
“but fighting him is my number one goal” What part of this is so hard to understand? GSP has also said ,”Of COURSE I WANT TO FIGHT HIM”. You get he doesn’t want to fight him from that.
What else is he gonna say . . . ” No, please leave me alone BJ, wheres my blanky!?!” And BJ wants it in Canada also, thats why i love him, go into that same crowd that Serra did and silence them = ) And then BJ will get the 3rd in Hawaii for sure! BJ BJ BJ!!! I dont care about the past fight anymore, watch when Penn takes Georges belt and then we’ll see what you have to say, dont go into hiding again after the fight like you did in the Sherk/Stevenson/Pulver fights, BJ’s gonna silence YOU again, just like the past 3 in a row. BJ’S A MENTAL GIANT NOW! GSP’S WHEELS ARE ALREADY STARTING TO FALL OFF, MUMBLING MOLLY!!
I highly doubt that they will have them as coaches. They may have to make Anderson Silva a coach because without any real creditable opponents, his is the only belt in the UFC that could benefit from a lay off. It will give the division time to build up someone.
There are two big weekends in the UFC. The first in the end of the year card. The second is the Superbowl weekend card. Dana is not going to go to Montreal for New Years. That’s Vegas all the way, but he may go for Superbowl weekend and that’s only two months later, but it’s plenty of time for GSP to rest
I said it before, GSP does NOT want to fight him. He dances around the question when ever its asked. BJ, let the taunting beging so he can not back out for this year. LOL!
Let’s go BJ!!!!!
We All Want To See This One Happen This Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly! GSP IS SCARED OF BJ!!!! See him in the ring when BJ came in? He nearly pooped on himself!
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
John broke this news in another thread, so I’ll put my reply here with some additions.:
GSP is mentally weak, and this is just another reason why. This mental midget needs much more than 4 months to try and get ready to fight the always mentally ready BJ Penn.
GSP can’t be saying that he is too beat up to fight again in 4 months. That is just pure BS or should I say, an excuse of a p*ssy. Jon Fitch wants to fight again before the end of the year and look at the beating he took. Fitch is a REAL fighter. And GSP just wants to be a champion. He FINALLY defended the WW title after being the most dominating WW over the past 3 years or so, so now he doesn’t want to fight BJ and lose the belt after just one defence. He wants to simply walk around Canada holding his belt for at least 6 months before losing it again. (Most would think GSP would have 6 defences by now, but he doesn’t).
GSP hopped into the octagon after Hughes beat Penn, or should I say, finished Penn quite convincingly, and says “I wuzz NOT impwessed wit yah pahfawmance.”. Well, Hughes then fougth GSP. Now this past weekend, BJ comes into the ring after GSP just went to a decision and says that he’s “ready to do this”. GSP, you are a coward that does not want to fight BJ anywhere but Canada. The NYE event will not be held in Canada. I think that that is the only reason Georgey won’t take the fight in December. He wants home field advantage. For that reason, whenever they do get booked to fight, they should be fighting in HAWIAI
the always mentally ready bj penn who never took fighting seriously until he got whooped by matt hughes because he can’t fail a submission and still have enough energy to stand with his hands up in the air afterwards
Yeah right, Hawiai, like GSP doesn’t deserve to fight in his home town more than BJ,LMAO. GSP is the one putting HIS belt on the line. As a BJ fan you should know that fighters lose sometimes. You try making it sound like GSP hasn’t accomplished much because he had a bad night (1 of a lot FEWER than Penn has had). He would have 5 title defences if he didn’t lose to Serra,but shit happens and EVERYBODY loses, you know like Penn LOSING 2 in a row at WW after he won his free title shot (he would’ve never been champ if he went through the top WW’s ,like GSP)
Just because BJ fans think he will beat GSP, they ASSUME that everyone else thinks the same, Especially GSP,LOL. GSP has beaten ALL the best of the best (INCLUDING BJ) and to think he would be scared of little BJ, is quite laughable, It’s hilarious if you consider how much better he is and how he destroys his opponents NOW.
I almost pissed myself laughing so hard, when you said “always mentally ready BJ” He’s as inconsistant as they come. Now GSP on the other hand ,is OVERALL a mental giant and anyone who thinks you can get to where GSP is and not be one , isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Lastly, like I said many times before, saying GSP is mentally weak is a MOOT point. Lets say he is,He still RAPES everyone,so does it really matter. You’re calling a guy mentally weak who has beaten EVERYONE he’s faced. Maybe all fighters should share GSP’s mental capacity. Maybe even BJ would have won a few more of his fights if he was as mentally weak as GSP.
BS!!!
Disclaimer, I’m not a GSP fan!!! He knows BJ is motivated. He has 5 months and will put weight on correctly, and is avenging a decision loss that GSP won by riding him. I’m not going to be disrespectful and say he’s a coward, but who in their right mind wouldn’t want to fight on the biggest PPV of the year, and possibly be part of the biggest PPV ever. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, BJ has said he wants it in montreal too. who other than BJ Penn would request to beat, I mean fight GSP in front of his canadien fans? Yes I’m biased, I’m a BJ fan, but I see zero scenarios in which GSP wins this fight!
Oh by the way, Dana will put this together, and even he feels GSP is trying to avoid this fight. Mentally GSP knows BJ isn’t only confident and border line cocky, but will back it up too!!
If you really see zero scenarios with GSP winning, you are absolutely blind.
I want to know what Dana said about GSP avoiding this fight. I got a scenario in which GSP wins this fight. If someone takes 3 rounds to finish Sherk(and gets rocked a few times to boot)they will LOSE to GSP. I won’t say there is no way BJ wins, but it is so miniscule as to be not even worth mentioning.
I say the 1st is a gaurantee for BJ since he has never lost a first round ever (became a champion in the 1st round though) but never lost one, including to GSP who might have gotten the worst 1st round award to BJ if you ask me = ) Besides when he was out of shape to GSP has Penn ever lost a second round and even then barely and already tired cause he WAS a chunkster coming down from 180 lbs and probably cut weight hella wrong and just plain living foolishly. . . Gomi no, Renzo no, Hughes1/2 no, Pulver1/2 no, Serra no, Sherk no, Uno1/2 no, Stevenson LoL no, Machida . .Depends on who you ask, BJ took him down in the 2nd as most significant action of the round to me . ., Rodrigo no, Ludwig and Thomas didnt even see the 2nd round, Gilbert no, NEVER. So ill go with 1 qnd 2 for Penn without a doubt. So and he should have after all this time of living right and being who he is now have at least gained decent cardio for a 3rd round without a problem, but lets just say he looks great for two, GSP has to win the next 3 busted up cause you gotta know hes gonna be, imagine 2 rounds of the first round last time with take down attempts and kicks of his own. GSP will do his damage but Penn never showns damage. And i think Pen wil be fine for a 3rd and at least keep his hands up and fight smart for the 4th, while GSP is still busted up but energetic but not effective cause BJ wont be taken down as easily this time, it might get him a round or two, but he WONT be taking BJ down in the first 2 for sure, not gona happen, and if you dont take him down so he cn wear himself out or GnP how do you tire him out, Sherk has just as good of cardio as GSP and he would have seen a fresh Penn in the 4th after almost being jabbed to death and KO’d. ANd GSP has a 6 inch reach advantage, he barely caught BJ 10 times total with a punch the entire fight, ooops, the eye poke right, or what i call the knuckle from a fist which created a black eye, like normal. George didnt say anything ever, post fight, hospitl interviews, never, he called it a punch. We’l se soon huh = ) And ill bet my name on here on BJ Gord, you up for it = )
What?
Dont worry about it, im talking to Gord dude. Come on Gord, keep this 2 year argument going!
A LOT of problems with your analisis. GSP has just won more rounds and finished his fights faster than BJ period. Look at their records. GSP doesn’t have all the 3’s,4’s and 5’s in the round column. His only fight that went past the 3rd was Fitch.
No, I don’t gotta know GSP will be busted up, because BJ ONLY jacked his nose after GSP couldn’t see from the lazy jab (LEADING with his THUMB NAIL, NOT knuckle). GSP did say BJ punched him, but why don’t you LISTEN to the rest of what GSP says. “BJ punched me in the eye and in the nose, udder dan dat , he NEVER TOUCHED ME”. WHY didn’t BJ continue to land punches past the first 2 or 3 minutes, when GSP had impaired vision? You can’t say he gassed that quickly.
How can anyone say GSP will have any trouble WHATSOEVER, taking anyone down? Did you miss him taking Serra and Fitch down in the first few seconds of the fight. BJ has good TDD, so what, it will take 10 seconds instead of 4. GSP takes EVERYONE down at WILL and he makes it look easy. GSP’s wrestling has went WAAAAAY up since UFC 58. He WILL take BJ down, whenever he chooses.
Seems like BJ fans are basing their predictions on the first 2 minutes of the first fight and say Penn will do the same, only longer, because of his improved cardio. The thing is , the damage STOPPED when GSP could see and it had nothing to do with Penn’s cardio, unless you expect one to believe he gassed in the first 3 minutes. One thing we did learn from the first fight, is BJ can’t finish a wounded GSP (even when he is FRESH). No way this fight starts off the same, when GSP has 2 eyes. It’s not like BJ killed Sherk in the first round (like you said he would). Why do you think he will have GSP hurt early? Watch what BJ did to Sherk in the first and then watch what GSP did to a WAY better fighter (Fitch) in the first round. GSP has more tools and uses ALL of them. GSP will have 20 lbs on Penn. Someone is getting hurt and it aint going to be GSP.
Exactly my thoughts. I guess after a grueling matchup against Fitch GSP is looking for other options to protect his belt from possible challengers…
GSP fought 4 times in 12 months.. but other than KOs’s rounds/ and Fitch’s 5rounds.. he was fine.. that’s why Anderson Silva gets su much props.. he wants fight all the time.. if he didn’t sustain an injury. GSP vs BJ should gop down at he end of the year!
Come off it man, the fight is only half of it. Its the whole camp that takes its toll, not to mention the cutting.
I don’t think you can blame GSP for wanting a bit of time off, enjoy some of his hard earned cash!
4 fights in a year is good going by any main event fighter.
All that being said i think Dana will wave a big pot of gold under his nose to get him to fight NYE.
Nick J : GSP should fight BJ.. Look his 4 fights pretty much one side.. Withs Hughes/Serra2.. Fitch granted was a war.. but if he is not hurt.. what’s the problemo…BJ said : ” I’m ready to do this “.. I like using Anderson Silva as a referance.. GSP is put like Voilent Mike mentioned in another thread..
I would like to qoute V1:
” GSP is mentally weak, and this is just another reason why. He needs much more than 4 months to try and get ready to fight the always mentally ready BJ Penn.
GSP can’t be saying that he is too beat up to fight again in 4 months. That is just pure BS, like Phil said, Fitch wants to fight again before the end of the year. Fitch is a REAL fighter. And GSP just wants to be a champion. He FINALLY defended the WW title after being the most dominating WW over the past 3 years or so, so now he doesn’t want to fight BJ and lose the belt after just one defence. HE wants to at least walk around Canada holding his belt for at least 6 months before giving it up. (Most would think GSP would have 6 defences by now, but he doesn’t).
GSP hopped into the octagon after Hughes beat Penn, or should I say, finished Penn quite convincingly, and says “I wuzz NOT impwessed wit yah pahfawmance.”. Well, Hughes then fougth GSP. Now this past weekend, BJ comes into the ring after GSP just went to a decision and says that he’s “ready to do this”. GSP, you coward! “
I told u guys that I didnt think that GSP wanted it with Penn, and thats exactly why Penn jumped into the Octagon after the Fitch fight.
Man up GSP, I know this is a nightmare title defense, but you said you want to be a real champion, so I dont want to see you stall so that you can hold the belt longer!
John nizzle.. my dizzle.. GSP is Shook my dude.. He does not want to fight BJ Penn.. it was written all over his Mug after the Fitch fight..GSP: ” I will give a title shot to who ever deserves one ” BJ : “I’m ready to do this ” .. GSP: ” I’m not a coward “.. hummm .. BJ had the eye piercing look to him.. GSP didn’t.
If Someone who is a UFC Champ himself.. a MMA Legend.. goes into the octagon after your 1st title defense.. and calls you out..and all you say is ” I will give a title shot to who ever deserves one “.. I smell something.. I smell.. hummm.. I smell… I smell PUSSY!
The only thing I’m worried about is GSP not being in the right mind set for this fight. He could take the time off he needs to recoup but I think that might be a mistake. This dominant fight is a wave I think he should ride into the Penn fight and a break would cause him to get out of his current mind set. Not to be cruel but I think Penn had a harder fight against Sherk who IMO is tougher than Fitch. Sure Sherk got TKO’d but he was definetly fighting back against Penn who just stuck to it. Penn should just fight Florian and stomp him, I think another dominant win for Penn could get inside GSP’s head. Lets face it when you look at Penn’s record compared to GSP’s in these past fights there is no comparrison who has had the harder fights.
Philqny: Being from Queens I am sure you know a thing or two about “Shook ones”…..GSP is Shook! U r right, BJ looked ready for War, GSP seemed like he didn’t want any!
Penn will beat GSP. Before the Fitch fight I thought GSP would win this but GSP stalling after Penn calls him out IMO shows GSP fears Penn. Is GSP hoping Penns fights again and loses so he doesn’t have to fight him?
That couldn’t have anything do with BJ having almost to three months off, being rested up and fired up to get going again. Meanwhile, GSP hasn’t even had three days off. He had just went five rounds and is no doubt feeling it a bit. Give it some time.
Man GSP has beaten BJ before and he will beat BJ again. How many times has in the last 3 years? yeah 5 times so excuse me if GSP wants to rest up for a bit. Maybe that is the only way BJ can beat GSP (an overworked burnt out GSP I can see why BJ is pushing for it ASAP) On the other hand I don’t want TUF to get in the way of title defense GSP is my favorite fighter and I wanna see him fight as much as possible but not if he’s not ready.
Phil… to call GSP a coward is a bit stupid and it does you no justice as i respect your comments on here.
He hasn’t fought anyone outside of the top 10 in the division (except Serra) for years and is constantly active. Have you ever heard of GSP ducking a fight… no.
Also he is not saying that he does not want to fight GSP, just that he is after some time off which is understandable.
It doesn’t matter what has happened in the fights is what i tried to get across, its the whole build up that puts strains on fighters. I mean the Serra 2 and Fitch fights were on a quick turnaround, let him have a bit of time off.
I don’t think GSP fears Penn in the slightest. They will fight, thats a given its just a case of when.
Lets face it the NYE show is ging to be stacked with or without this fight so i think we win if this is pushed back to January anyway.
Nick J : Pardon my biasness.. I’m MEGA HUGE BJ PENN FAN! I’m being bias..GSP is MMA stud!! but the truth ofthe matter.. is his is and will be ducking BJ…I really feel as some others do.. GSP does not want to tango with the Prodigy.
Phil, you got too much time on yo hands replyin on every article here. I think YOU need some time off
Phil… cool mate, we’ll have to agree to disagree regarding GSP ducking Penn.
I’m a Penn fan myself (who isn’t) but i also am a bigger GSP fan so fight his corner.
We’ll see when they eventually lock horns.
“GSP GSP GSP GSP GSP”
JOHN AND PHILQNY. when in this interview did gsp say he didnt want to fight penn. he said fighting him is his #1 goal! he just said he didnt want to fight until after the year was out. you make all these innuendos that gsp is mentally weak and should fight 5 times this year no matter what. if being a champion means fighting 5 times a year then where is all your hate for FEDOR. yeah i said it. he fights once a year and is now going to fight another “choi” and you guys will give him a pass everytime. look how long he has been ducking RANDY. what is it 2 years now? and dont give me this b.s about being a hw. he’s been doing this for 3 or 4 years now. you both say all these great things about gsp after he wins, but every time you get a chance to diss him, you do it. at least georges isnt in it for the money like FEDOR.(WHAT IS IT 2 MIL FOR NYE). put that in your pipe and smoke it!
NICE PHIL!!!!!!
Thanks for putting my comment here!!!
You the man! and were one step ahead of me
My version above is slightly different than the original for those interested in checking it out, its up the page just a bit.
b.w..b.w…b.w… I talk about what I see and hear… coming from the mouths of UFC superstars.. When Penn went into the octagon after GSp’s win.. He looked GSP right in the eyes and said ” I’m ready to do this “.. 9/10 MMA fighter’s response in that position is .. ” Let’s do it “.. Not .10% response of GSP.. “I will give a title shot to who deserves it”..that is a BS response and raises questions.. GSP to me.. was taking words out of
” The politcal Correct UFC Champ Statement Hand Guide ”
Come on.. Mome boy is in your grill ..saying he wants to beat your ass.. and your going to respond by saying.. ” Whomever the UFC wants me to fight.. i will fight.. I am not a Coward ” hey I didn’t say it.. he did.
Kas: I’m at work..with Mania up from 8am -5pm Monday thru Friday..makes my job a bit more fun =P.
LISTEN UP EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!
GSP is saying that he fought 4 times in the past 12 months. 3 of the fights were in the last 11.5 months.
IF GSP were to fight BJ in December at the NYE event, that would mean that he fought a TOTAL of 3 times in 2008. But since he is claiming that he won’t be ready by December, everyone’s hero will have only fought TWO times in 2008!!!!! Two fights in a year for a champ that claims he’s the greatest? I can understand if he was physically injured or something, but he’s not. His mental weakness is just getting to be too much.
If fighting 3 times a year is too much for a fighter, then it really blows when they become champ because the fans miss out on title fights, and contenders lose out on title shots.
I agree with the Voilent 1!!!!
philqny. it looks and sounds like you see what you wanna see and hear what you wanna hear. i honestly didnt understand most of what you just said. speak english!
one of those fights happened just before the new year, than he fought serra than he fought fitch and before that he fought kos. inbetween he was preparing for the next fight.
BJ has always been more hype than he’s worth.
b.w: I will put in simply english 101 for you.
During the post fight interview with Rogan.. when ask about his possible match up with the current U F C LW Champ.. GSP did not sound to me..as man who wants that fight.
BJ Penn being inside the ocatgon, makes a statement : LET’S DO IT.. I’m ready to do this.. ( something like that ). GSP did’t respond with conviction.. He jsut kept saying the same thing over and over again. It could of been anyone other than BJ in front of him.. and his statments could of applied to them.
The way I see it..is the way it is.
phil. what was gsp supposed to do, drop his gi and fight b.j. right then and there. if your whole analogy is that, gsp is a coward and is afraid to fight b.j. based on that little post-fight to-do then i think somethings a little off there. any fighter that steps into the octagon w/ fitch and beats him 5rnds to 0 is not a coward and not mentally weak. fitch said he wants to fight again as soon as possible, let b.j fight him next month(he’s been off for 3 months now) and if he wins then he can fight gsp in dec. makes CENTS to me.
GSP said : I’m not a coward.
PhilQNY never did.
And there different levels of ” being Yellow “..or some may call a coward. There are different types.
1 maybe the guy who is scared shitless and don’t fight..some are scared, but still fight. Can GSP be a beast, and dominate Fitch for 5 rounds and be scared of BJ Penn.. yeah he could.
Of course I don’t expect GSP to go another 5 rounds there ar the spot.. but more conviction with his words. He sounded like he was politcal candidate of some kind with how he answered Joe’s questions.
Okay, so he fought two days before ‘08 started. Was GSP supposed to fight again the first week of January to fit your criteria for activity in a calendar year? He gought Kos the end of last August, 4 months later Hughes, 4 months later Serra, 4 months Fitch. That is four fights in a year. Meanwhile, Penn typically takes 6 to 8 months off. I am calling double standard. And if really concerned over contenders losing out on shots as stated, what about the LW division?? Why are you saying GSP is the one holding things up?
Enough of the mental weakness claim. If it applies to GSP, it is also does for BJ. If he doesn’t get his way, out comes Baby Jay. Face it. He has walked out like a two yr old on a tantrum before when he didn’t get his way. Also, BJ has lacked the mental toughness to put the work in to adequately prepare for many of his fights. You are reaching way back if you want to use ammo against Georges from when he was much younger and less experienced. Where is it now because I haven’t seen him intimidated outside of his first title shot when he couldn’t look Hughes in the eyes?
PHILQNY. you did call call gsp a coward, right below nick j’s comment. “gsp you coward”. when randy was brought into the ring after fedor beat big poopy, didnt fedor’s response sound a little pc to you as well. he always sounds pc. maybee its because he cant speak english very well and was trying to be repectful. you dont think gsp MIGHT have been doing the same thing? dont get me wrong, i wanna see gsp/b.j on dec 27 as bad as any fan alive, but just because georges says he may want to wait until jan or feb of 09 doesnt mean that he is afraid of b.j. or a coward or a pu$$Y.
That comment under Nick J is a ” Quote “.. I put into my post by my fellow maniac.
I smell.. I smell.. I smell..P#%@$#^y.. I always loved that line from House Party 1.
Well I see your point on the language thing.. but GSP has light years more english in his arsenal than GSP.
This will be my last post remark about his.. in this thread.. just I’m getting tired.
b.w.: GSP IMO wants nothing to do with BJ Penn right now.
Why? I understand GSP went 5rounds with one tuf Mofo.. but BJ Penn called him out.. like basically Yo.. I want to fight you..and all GSP kept saying is.. I’ll give a shot to whomever the UFc thinks deserves a shot….
…hummmmm… that’s where I drew the line. you don’t have to spaz out.. but jsut hey.. you want to fight me.. Oh man.. that’s bad Idea BJ.. a la ” I am not impressed with your performance “… Say something.. that shit sounded like he read that line out of the UFC fighter’s guide book. I think VM..to add made some great points.. that I agreed with. GSP wants to be the Champion.. he doesn’t want to be a fighter..IMO.. that’s how I’m interperting it. Can GSP beat BJ.. yeah he won a decision a minute ago.. can BJ beat GSP.. yeah if it wasnn’t for the 3rd round GSP takedowns.. he could of won that match. I would mind waitning till ‘09 to see this match.. but I would love to see it for New Years! GSP IMO should follow as “JOHN” stated ” the gold standard “.. Fight.. as often as you can.. fight as much top talent as you can.. go out there and put down..I want to this fight GSP vs BJ Penn2!!! Today it looks like BJ wants it more than GSP.. from the comments I heard from both fighters.
okay. i respect your opinion on this matter (somewhat) but what about my original comment on fedor? why doesnt he have to live up to this so-called “gold standard” and not get hammered by you and the other bloggers that you mentioned (jhon,vm). it’s easy to agree and blog with people when you know that they are not gonna disagree with a word you say.
Fedor is not human. I think he is cut from a different clothe then everyone else. I’m bias.. I’m a huge fan of his.. I’ll admit that. So to answer your question.. Fedor is Fedor.. He has yet to do anything human like.. so that’s why I leave him alone..there is alot of politcis around him.. with his inactivity i nthe last 2 years..but I look at what Zuffa did in purchasing pride and shutting it down.. alot of that stuff gets put into my Fedor equation. With the UFC not able to come to terms with him.. which.. sucked..but it didn’t really matter cuz in Affliction Banned he reminded my why he is the best HW on the planet. 27-1.. as a HW is impressive. He made Nog jits look white beltish in pride.
Phil and Mike, ive agreed with you guys on every point in this debate, of all times to wanna take a little break, of all times this super human athlete GSP could want to ease up on the training, and put fights on hold, he wants to do it with the undesputably biggest he has had, with the undesputed biggest threat to him?Coincidence? I think not.
I totally agree - GSP is not making excuses, he is being honest. He knows the effort required to prepare, what it is like to go in unprepared and why your mind has to be in the right place. AND don’t forget, he’s not just a fighter on each card - he carries every event he is in. There’s much more going on than vertical leaps and bench presses.
Right now, it is simply too soon after the Fitch war to be talking about the next fight. He needs some time to unwind and recharge. I think by October 1st a HUGE New Year’s announcement will happen….
I too commented on this in another thread and will repost it, as ist’s likely more relevant here.
Phil, john, VMike,
Jebus guys. Not that I want to get onto your respective bad sides here but doncha’ think it’s time to chill the F out a little on this. Your positions on GSPs recent comments are completely based on your love for your favorite fighters (Fitch and BJ) and are perhaps more than a little harsh on one of the sports top PFP fighters? All the sudden you guys are back on the Pete Sell line of GSP being a “mental midget”. What a crock. Did you guys see the fights on Saturday? GSP completely dominated a guy that you guys thought would give him a really tough test. I mean john, you’re all defending Fedor for fighting “the worlds fattest man” or whatever freak they put in front of him in Japan in NYE, meaning we won’t get to see him fight someone meningfull for another what, 7 -9 months? But he gets a pass because he’s awesome, right? Well I have news for you guys, GSP is also awesome and has earned more respect than you guys are giving him.
I also live the armchair psychoanalysis of his post fight comments and demeanor. “He’s scared, I could see it in his eyes.”. Ridiculous. GSP has fought BJ before and won and is a way better fighter than he was the last time they fought, by all accounts. IMHO, I think GSP is going to handle BJ based on his size, speed and athleticism alone. And I also think that if BJ doesn’t have to make 155, his cardio just won’t be as good as it was when he beat Pulver, Lauzon, Stevenson and Sherk at 155.
By-the-by, and this goes for all of you, I usually respect your fight opinions and look forward to your comments over here at MMA Mania, I just think on this one you guys are way out of line.
well said! i couldnt have said it any better, and believe me, i tried.
I hope to see you guys here @ mania on a regular basis.. this is where the best MMA fans i nthe world meet. Regardless if we agree to disagree..Canucklehead b.w. I respect your opinions and points of views.. We are part of the reason mmamania makes some much god damn noise in the MMA culture.
P.S. If GSP is the favorite going into his showdown with Penn.. the gamblers around here.. IMO.. BJ Penn will make ya’ll alot of $$$$..if ya’l bet the right way.
Great Post Canucklehead.
As a preface to all my posts, its understood that I love to hate GSP, Bisping and Kos.
Henderson, Leben, Diaz’s, and yes, the Fitchster are my favorite fighters. I haven’t been saying much about the Henderson/Palhares fight because that dude’s BJJ has me worried!
GSP is the best WW on the planet. He proved it. I now want to see him fight BJ, while BJ is in shape. BJ said that he would come into the fight like 165 lbs. He will be in shape, not fat and unconditioned. BJ has been GSP’s toughest test the last couple of years.
Also, if Thiago Alves beats Deigo, he deserves to get his punchers chance at GSP and the title. If Serra can clip GSP behind the ear, I gotta believe that Thiago can too. Can he? Sure. Well he? I highly doubt it.
Nice to see you give Canucklehead some props. I truly believe that these are 2 of the best pound for pound fighters in the business. This fight will happen, not sure if it will be this year, but cut GSP some slack. These guys are my heroes, but even heroes gotta put on there street clothes and have a personal life too. While training these guys give up there personal lives, no time for friends, family or other hobbies. IMO, a person that gives up 100% of there time has a good chance of becoming whacko and I for one don’t want to see GSP getting hauled away in a police car. If this fight doesn’t happen, I will jump on the cowardly bandwagon.
what about BJ Penn? he openenly said he was taking it easy, why aren’t you on his case? BJ can get 6 months off, but GSP can’t? please.
Who will BJ Penn.. fight that is worth fighting now.. outside of KENFLO?? BJ wants GSP.. He waited for his title and for GSP’s title defense.. no he wnts to fight GSP.. and what BJ wants he gets!! He is the F’n Prodogy.. an automatic UFC/MMA legend. I don’t question BJ.. he is battle tested.. a proven warrior..a proven Champion.. GSP?? well is not. GSP should be itching like chicken pocks to fight BJ Penn.. He just called him out!!! And what was GSP’s response??? What did GSP say when Serra had to pull out of the Hughes fight? That he stays in fight shape all year round.. VM.. made an excellent point.. GSP is ready physically..but not yet mentally to fight the UFC LW Champ BJ ” The Prodogy F’n ” Penn!!!
BJ is moving up in weight, so he needs the extra time to put on weight properly.
PhilQNY, what are you smoking? “BJ is a proven champ and GSP isn’t”. BJ has ZERO title defences EVER at LW or WW. BJ DIDN’T earn EITHER title shot. He COULDN’T win a belt at LW so he got a FREE title shot at WW. His next 2 fights at WW PROVED that BJ hadn’t proved SHIT and his free belt was BOGUS, because if he took the long way, like a REAL (proven) champ, he would have lost to GSP and maybe others before he even got to Hughes. So, for losing 2 fights at WW Penn is awarded (you guessed it) another free title shot, at LW. He hasn’t defended that belt and you THINK he’s a proven champ.
GSP on the other hand has MORE than proven he is a legitimate champ. He only has one title defence(That is still 100% more than Penn has),but that is purely semantics, he destroyed all the same guys he would have fought had he beat Serra, he just has 1 defence instead of the 5 defences he would have. Would you somehow be more impressed if he did it while he had a belt in his closet at home. He cleaned the division and beat them ALL and you THINK he hasn’t proven himself. Someone is smokin a little to much hippy lettus,lol.
EXACTLY! Why isn’t anyone giving BJ a hard time for pretty much abandoning his weight class to wait and fight GSP! I know you have to respect Penn for his willingness to fight anybody at any weight class but there’s ALOT of guys in line for a title shot @ 155 and BJ put that on hold to satisfy his own ego. Is GSP a little nervous about fighting BJ? Yeah probably a little but he will do it.
I don”t know what that Cogito ergo sum guy was talking about but on everyone’s lists GSP is the #1 170 fighter and Jon Fitch is #2. Bj is #1 155 fighter on most lists but sherk is usually #9 or #10. Sherk is a bad ass, strong 155 but how was his fight with BJ tougher on bj than gsp vs fitch? Sherk didn’t even try taking penn down to win the fight, he just got beat up on his feet.
If BJ was such a bad ass he would fight a gain in september and then in dec.
Very good points Mattchupichu!
perfect analogy!
These god damn BJ nut hangers need to get a grip(outside of gripping his nuts). Give it a rest already. I love watching BJ fights aswell, but before you make all the noise, I like to see him fight a top 5 contender at 170. I don’t think it will happens b/c if he looses, the “dream match” might not happens and kill the opportunity for a great sale. For god sake, what make you think he can beat Fitch or some other top dogs? He could not even top the scale at 170 being fat. Give me a break, he lost to M. Hughes b/c of cardio condition.