“Several people mentioned that my next opponent should be BJ Penn. Nothing is obviously signed yet, but fighting him is my number one goal. I think he deserves a chance to challenge for my belt, but we’ll see what happens in the coming weeks. I hope deeply [that my next fight is in Montreal]. The President of the UFC, Dana White, said he would like to return to Montreal before the end of the year. For my part, I do not know if I will go back in the Octagon before 2009. I had four fights in the past 12 months. So I need rest. I like my life, but sometimes I have to relax…. I make so many sacrifices for me prepare. During training camps I can hardly live. Therefore, I need to refuel psychologically.”
– UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre tells RDS.ca that he may not return to action this year because of his recent activity. “Rush” is expected to next put his 170-pound title on the line against UFC Lightweight Champion and former welterweight belt holder, BJ Penn, in a blockbuster mega fight. It was widely expected that the showdown would take place on New Year’s Eve weekend on December 27; however, with four straight wins over top contenders such as Jon Fitch, Matt Serra, Matt Hughes and Josh Koscheck, it appears that St. Pierre may need more time to recharge his batteries to get up for the biggest fight of his career against “The Prodigy.” With more than four months until possible showtime let’s hope he takes a nice long vacation and reconsiders his most recent remarks.
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I really hope we don’t have to wait till next year to see this guy fight again, already have long waits for a lot of other top fighters. The waiting game sucks. just fight him!
I really just hope they dont’ do a TUF for his fight with Penn. GSP has one of the driest personalities in the sport, he is a really nice guy but I can skip his pre fight trash talk (as there is none) and his post fight speech. The guy is more than welcome to take a break although this super fight would have made the December card the most amazingly packed UFC event ever. W/e it’ll probably be injury laden anyway.
Cogito, that is a great point. The producers of the TUF series are probably salivating over having GSP vs. BJ Penn as the coaches. Hopefully we dont get stuck waiting over half a year to see this fight because of a silly reality show.
This is terrible news if this fight doesnt take place at UFC 92 in December!
GSP was kind of a coach, actually he was an “advisor” for Season 4, The Comeback. But since they were all previous UFC fighters, they never really listened to the advisors much at all. The other advisors were Randy Couture, Marc Laimon and Mark DeLagrotti.
GSP would be the most boring coach since… GSP would be the most boring coach in the history of TUF.
I dont’ think the UFC would dare do this to us. We already have TUF 8 about to begin in September (and I am really starting to get a feeling that it will be Team USA vs Team Brazil considering that the majority of the coaches on Team Nog don’t speak English). The finale of TUF 8 is going to be in the middle of December. The earliest that they can have Season 9 is to begin taping in like February, but it wouldn’t be ready to air until May. Then we’d have about 3 months of watching it leading up to the finale, which would be July. That would mean that if BJ and GSP were coaches of TUF 9, then they would not get to fight for about 1 full year. PLUS the fact that not only would they be tying up one division by having the champ on TUF, but they would by putting TWO divisions on hold.
AWFUL idea.
The next TUF series will be held in the UK. The plan is for Bisping and Kampmann to be coaches of two teams UK vs Europe. They will then fight it out for number 1 contenders spot, if Bisping beats Leben.
#1 comtendor of what? I’m a bisping fan, but now they’ll have a number 1 contender match to fight him? if thats true, it’s lame
MoonUK: Thnks for the info.. I hope Leben can put a wrench into those plans.
My bad if this seems like a selfish and dick comment, but I get fed up with fighters fighting so little!! I know some of the fighters arnt to blame (TUF). I cant think of many examples, and there will always be excuses, but I believe that fighters should be fighting every 4 months, 5 months max.
BJ Penn- Fights every 6 months, and wants even longer rest periods now he is champ
Tito’s massive waits between fights
What was up with Nog’s seven month lay off between Herring and Sylvia?
Matt Serra- With TUF and then injuries, but where on earth is he now? He isnt fighting for ages.
I aint just blaming the fighters, but I mean, half of them seem content to fight only half the time.
Kevin: Bisping and Kampmann will fight to be the number 1 contender to fight the Champ. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.
This comes from a reliable source in the UK (I know someone who works on the web design for Setanta, who show UFC in uk)
The UFC want to break into the European market and these are 2 of the best Europeans in the UFC. They will be holding a number of UFN in Europe after this TUF series.
I guess the UFC are hoping that Bisping beats Leben, as their plans will be dust if he doesn’t.
And what if Kampmann loses to Nate the great which there’s a very good chance of.
MoonUK, there is a heck of lot riding on your TUF assumption. Not only does Bisping need to beat Leben at UFC 89, but Martin Kampmann would also need to beat Nate Marquardt coming up at UFC 88 for it to make sense.
I just letting u know that the plans are there. Maybe they’ll still do it if both lose, but not for a title shot? But i can say for defo that there will be a UFN and ultimate fighter in Europe early part of next year.
Randy Colture is about to be on the Adam Corolla show if any one wants to listen. Click on listen live.
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they’d start taping it now mike. I’t’s taped almost 6 months before it’s put on. The one in sept is already taped, and taping is for only a couple months. It could be on TV by jan. That said I have no interest in GSP on TUF or BJ agaon for that matter
They would have to have the TUF tryouts and collect fighters before they could start taping so there is no way it could be started that fast. But I agree, let’s all pray this doesn’t happen know matter how soon the start time is. That made me cringe when VM mentioned two divisions on hold.
The try outs could start tomorrow. The wouldn’t care if they held both the fighters in limbo until July or next year or whatever. The only thing I will say is I bet Penn won’t stand for it. He’d be like sure I’ll do the TUF thing but I want to beat on Florian then to keep active.
I remember an interview Rogan did with BJ and Jens after their season and Joe asked BJ if he would ever do it again and he said without hesitation, NO, and they both had a good laugh about it.
I don’t know why it is even being discussed. No way a TUF show will happen with these 2 as coaches. BJ wants to fight not coach a bunch of rookies.
I had a feeling this was coming. GSP has seemed to be disinterested with this fight from the begining. When BJ came out to the cage after the Fitch fight, GSP seemed like he wanted nothing to do with BJ. I would never say that GSP is scared, but what else could it possibly be. Why would he not be pumped about being involved in the biggest MMA fight ever??????
because he’s weak and will lose, put on the same old suit and hopefully jump off a bridge!
Did you just call GSP weak???? That is just a foolish thing to say. I happen to think BJ will win when they fight, but come on. It will be a very even fight and its hard to count GSP out after last weekends preformance.
GSP doesnt want to fight for simple reasons.
If he wins: People say GSP is great blah-vlah-vlah, same as what they are saying at the moment. All he did was beat a fat LW, of course GSP weighs more so of course he was always going to win
If he loses: All hard work and credibility is gone because he lost to a LW. People start questioning the first fight again.
It is lose lose. Apart from the money side of things maybe
“but fighting him is my number one goal” What part of this is so hard to understand? GSP has also said ,”Of COURSE I WANT TO FIGHT HIM”. You get he doesn’t want to fight him from that.
What else is he gonna say . . . ” No, please leave me alone BJ, wheres my blanky!?!” And BJ wants it in Canada also, thats why i love him, go into that same crowd that Serra did and silence them = ) And then BJ will get the 3rd in Hawaii for sure! BJ BJ BJ!!! I dont care about the past fight anymore, watch when Penn takes Georges belt and then we’ll see what you have to say, dont go into hiding again after the fight like you did in the Sherk/Stevenson/Pulver fights, BJ’s gonna silence YOU again, just like the past 3 in a row. BJ’S A MENTAL GIANT NOW! GSP’S WHEELS ARE ALREADY STARTING TO FALL OFF, MUMBLING MOLLY!!
I highly doubt that they will have them as coaches. They may have to make Anderson Silva a coach because without any real creditable opponents, his is the only belt in the UFC that could benefit from a lay off. It will give the division time to build up someone.
There are two big weekends in the UFC. The first in the end of the year card. The second is the Superbowl weekend card. Dana is not going to go to Montreal for New Years. That’s Vegas all the way, but he may go for Superbowl weekend and that’s only two months later, but it’s plenty of time for GSP to rest
I said it before, GSP does NOT want to fight him. He dances around the question when ever its asked. BJ, let the taunting beging so he can not back out for this year. LOL!
Let’s go BJ!!!!!
We All Want To See This One Happen This Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly! GSP IS SCARED OF BJ!!!! See him in the ring when BJ came in? He nearly pooped on himself!
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
John broke this news in another thread, so I’ll put my reply here with some additions.:
GSP is mentally weak, and this is just another reason why. This mental midget needs much more than 4 months to try and get ready to fight the always mentally ready BJ Penn.
GSP can’t be saying that he is too beat up to fight again in 4 months. That is just pure BS or should I say, an excuse of a p*ssy. Jon Fitch wants to fight again before the end of the year and look at the beating he took. Fitch is a REAL fighter. And GSP just wants to be a champion. He FINALLY defended the WW title after being the most dominating WW over the past 3 years or so, so now he doesn’t want to fight BJ and lose the belt after just one defence. He wants to simply walk around Canada holding his belt for at least 6 months before losing it again. (Most would think GSP would have 6 defences by now, but he doesn’t).
GSP hopped into the octagon after Hughes beat Penn, or should I say, finished Penn quite convincingly, and says “I wuzz NOT impwessed wit yah pahfawmance.”. Well, Hughes then fougth GSP. Now this past weekend, BJ comes into the ring after GSP just went to a decision and says that he’s “ready to do this”. GSP, you are a coward that does not want to fight BJ anywhere but Canada. The NYE event will not be held in Canada. I think that that is the only reason Georgey won’t take the fight in December. He wants home field advantage. For that reason, whenever they do get booked to fight, they should be fighting in HAWIAI
the always mentally ready bj penn who never took fighting seriously until he got whooped by matt hughes because he can’t fail a submission and still have enough energy to stand with his hands up in the air afterwards
Yeah right, Hawiai, like GSP doesn’t deserve to fight in his home town more than BJ,LMAO. GSP is the one putting HIS belt on the line. As a BJ fan you should know that fighters lose sometimes. You try making it sound like GSP hasn’t accomplished much because he had a bad night (1 of a lot FEWER than Penn has had). He would have 5 title defences if he didn’t lose to Serra,but shit happens and EVERYBODY loses, you know like Penn LOSING 2 in a row at WW after he won his free title shot (he would’ve never been champ if he went through the top WW’s ,like GSP)
Just because BJ fans think he will beat GSP, they ASSUME that everyone else thinks the same, Especially GSP,LOL. GSP has beaten ALL the best of the best (INCLUDING BJ) and to think he would be scared of little BJ, is quite laughable, It’s hilarious if you consider how much better he is and how he destroys his opponents NOW.
I almost pissed myself laughing so hard, when you said “always mentally ready BJ” He’s as inconsistant as they come. Now GSP on the other hand ,is OVERALL a mental giant and anyone who thinks you can get to where GSP is and not be one , isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Lastly, like I said many times before, saying GSP is mentally weak is a MOOT point. Lets say he is,He still RAPES everyone,so does it really matter. You’re calling a guy mentally weak who has beaten EVERYONE he’s faced. Maybe all fighters should share GSP’s mental capacity. Maybe even BJ would have won a few more of his fights if he was as mentally weak as GSP.
BS!!!
Disclaimer, I’m not a GSP fan!!! He knows BJ is motivated. He has 5 months and will put weight on correctly, and is avenging a decision loss that GSP won by riding him. I’m not going to be disrespectful and say he’s a coward, but who in their right mind wouldn’t want to fight on the biggest PPV of the year, and possibly be part of the biggest PPV ever. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, BJ has said he wants it in montreal too. who other than BJ Penn would request to beat, I mean fight GSP in front of his canadien fans? Yes I’m biased, I’m a BJ fan, but I see zero scenarios in which GSP wins this fight!
Oh by the way, Dana will put this together, and even he feels GSP is trying to avoid this fight. Mentally GSP knows BJ isn’t only confident and border line cocky, but will back it up too!!
If you really see zero scenarios with GSP winning, you are absolutely blind.
I want to know what Dana said about GSP avoiding this fight. I got a scenario in which GSP wins this fight. If someone takes 3 rounds to finish Sherk(and gets rocked a few times to boot)they will LOSE to GSP. I won’t say there is no way BJ wins, but it is so miniscule as to be not even worth mentioning.
I say the 1st is a gaurantee for BJ since he has never lost a first round ever (became a champion in the 1st round though) but never lost one, including to GSP who might have gotten the worst 1st round award to BJ if you ask me = ) Besides when he was out of shape to GSP has Penn ever lost a second round and even then barely and already tired cause he WAS a chunkster coming down from 180 lbs and probably cut weight hella wrong and just plain living foolishly. . . Gomi no, Renzo no, Hughes1/2 no, Pulver1/2 no, Serra no, Sherk no, Uno1/2 no, Stevenson LoL no, Machida . .Depends on who you ask, BJ took him down in the 2nd as most significant action of the round to me . ., Rodrigo no, Ludwig and Thomas didnt even see the 2nd round, Gilbert no, NEVER. So ill go with 1 qnd 2 for Penn without a doubt. So and he should have after all this time of living right and being who he is now have at least gained decent cardio for a 3rd round without a problem, but lets just say he looks great for two, GSP has to win the next 3 busted up cause you gotta know hes gonna be, imagine 2 rounds of the first round last time with take down attempts and kicks of his own. GSP will do his damage but Penn never showns damage. And i think Pen wil be fine for a 3rd and at least keep his hands up and fight smart for the 4th, while GSP is still busted up but energetic but not effective cause BJ wont be taken down as easily this time, it might get him a round or two, but he WONT be taking BJ down in the first 2 for sure, not gona happen, and if you dont take him down so he cn wear himself out or GnP how do you tire him out, Sherk has just as good of cardio as GSP and he would have seen a fresh Penn in the 4th after almost being jabbed to death and KO’d. ANd GSP has a 6 inch reach advantage, he barely caught BJ 10 times total with a punch the entire fight, ooops, the eye poke right, or what i call the knuckle from a fist which created a black eye, like normal. George didnt say anything ever, post fight, hospitl interviews, never, he called it a punch. We’l se soon huh = ) And ill bet my name on here on BJ Gord, you up for it = )
What?
Dont worry about it, im talking to Gord dude. Come on Gord, keep this 2 year argument going!
A LOT of problems with your analisis. GSP has just won more rounds and finished his fights faster than BJ period. Look at their records. GSP doesn’t have all the 3’s,4’s and 5’s in the round column. His only fight that went past the 3rd was Fitch.
No, I don’t gotta know GSP will be busted up, because BJ ONLY jacked his nose after GSP couldn’t see from the lazy jab (LEADING with his THUMB NAIL, NOT knuckle). GSP did say BJ punched him, but why don’t you LISTEN to the rest of what GSP says. “BJ punched me in the eye and in the nose, udder dan dat , he NEVER TOUCHED ME”. WHY didn’t BJ continue to land punches past the first 2 or 3 minutes, when GSP had impaired vision? You can’t say he gassed that quickly.
How can anyone say GSP will have any trouble WHATSOEVER, taking anyone down? Did you miss him taking Serra and Fitch down in the first few seconds of the fight. BJ has good TDD, so what, it will take 10 seconds instead of 4. GSP takes EVERYONE down at WILL and he makes it look easy. GSP’s wrestling has went WAAAAAY up since UFC 58. He WILL take BJ down, whenever he chooses.
Seems like BJ fans are basing their predictions on the first 2 minutes of the first fight and say Penn will do the same, only longer, because of his improved cardio. The thing is , the damage STOPPED when GSP could see and it had nothing to do with Penn’s cardio, unless you expect one to believe he gassed in the first 3 minutes. One thing we did learn from the first fight, is BJ can’t finish a wounded GSP (even when he is FRESH). No way this fight starts off the same, when GSP has 2 eyes. It’s not like BJ killed Sherk in the first round (like you said he would). Why do you think he will have GSP hurt early? Watch what BJ did to Sherk in the first and then watch what GSP did to a WAY better fighter (Fitch) in the first round. GSP has more tools and uses ALL of them. GSP will have 20 lbs on Penn. Someone is getting hurt and it aint going to be GSP.
Exactly my thoughts. I guess after a grueling matchup against Fitch GSP is looking for other options to protect his belt from possible challengers…
GSP fought 4 times in 12 months.. but other than KOs’s rounds/ and Fitch’s 5rounds.. he was fine.. that’s why Anderson Silva gets su much props.. he wants fight all the time.. if he didn’t sustain an injury. GSP vs BJ should gop down at he end of the year!
Come off it man, the fight is only half of it. Its the whole camp that takes its toll, not to mention the cutting.
I don’t think you can blame GSP for wanting a bit of time off, enjoy some of his hard earned cash!
4 fights in a year is good going by any main event fighter.
All that being said i think Dana will wave a big pot of gold under his nose to get him to fight NYE.
Nick J : GSP should fight BJ.. Look his 4 fights pretty much one side.. Withs Hughes/Serra2.. Fitch granted was a war.. but if he is not hurt.. what’s the problemo…BJ said : ” I’m ready to do this “.. I like using Anderson Silva as a referance.. GSP is put like Voilent Mike mentioned in another thread..
I would like to qoute V1:
” GSP is mentally weak, and this is just another reason why. He needs much more than 4 months to try and get ready to fight the always mentally ready BJ Penn.
GSP can’t be saying that he is too beat up to fight again in 4 months. That is just pure BS, like Phil said, Fitch wants to fight again before the end of the year. Fitch is a REAL fighter. And GSP just wants to be a champion. He FINALLY defended the WW title after being the most dominating WW over the past 3 years or so, so now he doesn’t want to fight BJ and lose the belt after just one defence. HE wants to at least walk around Canada holding his belt for at least 6 months before giving it up. (Most would think GSP would have 6 defences by now, but he doesn’t).
GSP hopped into the octagon after Hughes beat Penn, or should I say, finished Penn quite convincingly, and says “I wuzz NOT impwessed wit yah pahfawmance.”. Well, Hughes then fougth GSP. Now this past weekend, BJ comes into the ring after GSP just went to a decision and says that he’s “ready to do this”. GSP, you coward! “
I told u guys that I didnt think that GSP wanted it with Penn, and thats exactly why Penn jumped into the Octagon after the Fitch fight.
Man up GSP, I know this is a nightmare title defense, but you said you want to be a real champion, so I dont want to see you stall so that you can hold the belt longer!
John nizzle.. my dizzle.. GSP is Shook my dude.. He does not want to fight BJ Penn.. it was written all over his Mug after the Fitch fight..GSP: ” I will give a title shot to who ever deserves one ” BJ : “I’m ready to do this ” .. GSP: ” I’m not a coward “.. hummm .. BJ had the eye piercing look to him.. GSP didn’t.
If Someone who is a UFC Champ himself.. a MMA Legend.. goes into the octagon after your 1st title defense.. and calls you out..and all you say is ” I will give a title shot to who ever deserves one “.. I smell something.. I smell.. hummm.. I smell… I smell PUSSY!
The only thing I’m worried about is GSP not being in the right mind set for this fight. He could take the time off he needs to recoup but I think that might be a mistake. This dominant fight is a wave I think he should ride into the Penn fight and a break would cause him to get out of his current mind set. Not to be cruel but I think Penn had a harder fight against Sherk who IMO is tougher than Fitch. Sure Sherk got TKO’d but he was definetly fighting back against Penn who just stuck to it. Penn should just fight Florian and stomp him, I think another dominant win for Penn could get inside GSP’s head. Lets face it when you look at Penn’s record compared to GSP’s in these past fights there is no comparrison who has had the harder fights.
Philqny: Being from Queens I am sure you know a thing or two about “Shook ones”…..GSP is Shook! U r right, BJ looked ready for War, GSP seemed like he didn’t want any!
Penn will beat GSP. Before the Fitch fight I thought GSP would win this but GSP stalling after Penn calls him out IMO shows GSP fears Penn. Is GSP hoping Penns fights again and loses so he doesn’t have to fight him?
That couldn’t have anything do with BJ having almost to three months off, being rested up and fired up to get going again. Meanwhile, GSP hasn’t even had three days off. He had just went five rounds and is no doubt feeling it a bit. Give it some time.
Man GSP has beaten BJ before and he will beat BJ again. How many times has in the last 3 years? yeah 5 times so excuse me if GSP wants to rest up for a bit. Maybe that is the only way BJ can beat GSP (an overworked burnt out GSP I can see why BJ is pushing for it ASAP) On the other hand I don’t want TUF to get in the way of title defense GSP is my favorite fighter and I wanna see him fight as much as possible but not if he’s not ready.
Phil… to call GSP a coward is a bit stupid and it does you no justice as i respect your comments on here.
He hasn’t fought anyone outside of the top 10 in the division (except Serra) for years and is constantly active. Have you ever heard of GSP ducking a fight… no.
Also he is not saying that he does not want to fight GSP, just that he is after some time off which is understandable.
It doesn’t matter what has happened in the fights is what i tried to get across, its the whole build up that puts strains on fighters. I mean the Serra 2 and Fitch fights were on a quick turnaround, let him have a bit of time off.
I don’t think GSP fears Penn in the slightest. They will fight, thats a given its just a case of when.
Lets face it the NYE show is ging to be stacked with or without this fight so i think we win if this is pushed back to January anyway.
Nick J : Pardon my biasness.. I’m MEGA HUGE BJ PENN FAN! I’m being bias..GSP is MMA stud!! but the truth ofthe matter.. is his is and will be ducking BJ…I really feel as some others do.. GSP does not want to tango with the Prodigy.
Phil, you got too much time on yo hands replyin on every article here. I think YOU need some time off
Phil… cool mate, we’ll have to agree to disagree regarding GSP ducking Penn.
I’m a Penn fan myself (who isn’t) but i also am a bigger GSP fan so fight his corner.
We’ll see when they eventually lock horns.
“GSP GSP GSP GSP GSP”
JOHN AND PHILQNY. when in this interview did gsp say he didnt want to fight penn. he said fighting him is his #1 goal! he just said he didnt want to fight until after the year was out. you make all these innuendos that gsp is mentally weak and should fight 5 times this year no matter what. if being a champion means fighting 5 times a year then where is all your hate for FEDOR. yeah i said it. he fights once a year and is now going to fight another “choi” and you guys will give him a pass everytime. look how long he has been ducking RANDY. what is it 2 years now? and dont give me this b.s about being a hw. he’s been doing this for 3 or 4 years now. you both say all these great things about gsp after he wins, but every time you get a chance to diss him, you do it. at least georges isnt in it for the money like FEDOR.(WHAT IS IT 2 MIL FOR NYE). put that in your pipe and smoke it!
NICE PHIL!!!!!!
Thanks for putting my comment here!!!
You the man! and were one step ahead of me
My version above is slightly different than the original for those interested in checking it out, its up the page just a bit.
b.w..b.w…b.w… I talk about what I see and hear… coming from the mouths of UFC superstars.. When Penn went into the octagon after GSp’s win.. He looked GSP right in the eyes and said ” I’m ready to do this “.. 9/10 MMA fighter’s response in that position is .. ” Let’s do it “.. Not .10% response of GSP.. “I will give a title shot to who deserves it”..that is a BS response and raises questions.. GSP to me.. was taking words out of
” The politcal Correct UFC Champ Statement Hand Guide ”
Come on.. Mome boy is in your grill ..saying he wants to beat your ass.. and your going to respond by saying.. ” Whomever the UFC wants me to fight.. i will fight.. I am not a Coward ” hey I didn’t say it.. he did.
Kas: I’m at work..with Mania up from 8am -5pm Monday thru Friday..makes my job a bit more fun =P.
LISTEN UP EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!
GSP is saying that he fought 4 times in the past 12 months. 3 of the fights were in the last 11.5 months.
IF GSP were to fight BJ in December at the NYE event, that would mean that he fought a TOTAL of 3 times in 2008. But since he is claiming that he won’t be ready by December, everyone’s hero will have only fought TWO times in 2008!!!!! Two fights in a year for a champ that claims he’s the greatest? I can understand if he was physically injured or something, but he’s not. His mental weakness is just getting to be too much.
If fighting 3 times a year is too much for a fighter, then it really blows when they become champ because the fans miss out on title fights, and contenders lose out on title shots.
I agree with the Voilent 1!!!!
philqny. it looks and sounds like you see what you wanna see and hear what you wanna hear. i honestly didnt understand most of what you just said. speak english!
one of those fights happened just before the new year, than he fought serra than he fought fitch and before that he fought kos. inbetween he was preparing for the next fight.
BJ has always been more hype than he’s worth.
b.w: I will put in simply english 101 for you.
During the post fight interview with Rogan.. when ask about his possible match up with the current U F C LW Champ.. GSP did not sound to me..as man who wants that fight.
BJ Penn being inside the ocatgon, makes a statement : LET’S DO IT.. I’m ready to do this.. ( something like that ). GSP did’t respond with conviction.. He jsut kept saying the same thing over and over again. It could of been anyone other than BJ in front of him.. and his statments could of applied to them.
The way I see it..is the way it is.
phil. what was gsp supposed to do, drop his gi and fight b.j. right then and there. if your whole analogy is that, gsp is a coward and is afraid to fight b.j. based on that little post-fight to-do then i think somethings a little off there. any fighter that steps into the octagon w/ fitch and beats him 5rnds to 0 is not a coward and not mentally weak. fitch said he wants to fight again as soon as possible, let b.j fight him next month(he’s been off for 3 months now) and if he wins then he can fight gsp in dec. makes CENTS to me.
GSP said : I’m not a coward.
PhilQNY never did.
And there different levels of ” being Yellow “..or some may call a coward. There are different types.
1 maybe the guy who is scared shitless and don’t fight..some are scared, but still fight. Can GSP be a beast, and dominate Fitch for 5 rounds and be scared of BJ Penn.. yeah he could.
Of course I don’t expect GSP to go another 5 rounds there ar the spot.. but more conviction with his words. He sounded like he was politcal candidate of some kind with how he answered Joe’s questions.
Okay, so he fought two days before ‘08 started. Was GSP supposed to fight again the first week of January to fit your criteria for activity in a calendar year? He gought Kos the end of last August, 4 months later Hughes, 4 months later Serra, 4 months Fitch. That is four fights in a year. Meanwhile, Penn typically takes 6 to 8 months off. I am calling double standard. And if really concerned over contenders losing out on shots as stated, what about the LW division?? Why are you saying GSP is the one holding things up?
Enough of the mental weakness claim. If it applies to GSP, it is also does for BJ. If he doesn’t get his way, out comes Baby Jay. Face it. He has walked out like a two yr old on a tantrum before when he didn’t get his way. Also, BJ has lacked the mental toughness to put the work in to adequately prepare for many of his fights. You are reaching way back if you want to use ammo against Georges from when he was much younger and less experienced. Where is it now because I haven’t seen him intimidated outside of his first title shot when he couldn’t look Hughes in the eyes?
PHILQNY. you did call call gsp a coward, right below nick j’s comment. “gsp you coward”. when randy was brought into the ring after fedor beat big poopy, didnt fedor’s response sound a little pc to you as well. he always sounds pc. maybee its because he cant speak english very well and was trying to be repectful. you dont think gsp MIGHT have been doing the same thing? dont get me wrong, i wanna see gsp/b.j on dec 27 as bad as any fan alive, but just because georges says he may want to wait until jan or feb of 09 doesnt mean that he is afraid of b.j. or a coward or a pu$$Y.
That comment under Nick J is a ” Quote “.. I put into my post by my fellow maniac.
I smell.. I smell.. I smell..P#%@$#^y.. I always loved that line from House Party 1.
Well I see your point on the language thing.. but GSP has light years more english in his arsenal than GSP.
This will be my last post remark about his.. in this thread.. just I’m getting tired.
b.w.: GSP IMO wants nothing to do with BJ Penn right now.
Why? I understand GSP went 5rounds with one tuf Mofo.. but BJ Penn called him out.. like basically Yo.. I want to fight you..and all GSP kept saying is.. I’ll give a shot to whomever the UFc thinks deserves a shot….
…hummmmm… that’s where I drew the line. you don’t have to spaz out.. but jsut hey.. you want to fight me.. Oh man.. that’s bad Idea BJ.. a la ” I am not impressed with your performance “… Say something.. that shit sounded like he read that line out of the UFC fighter’s guide book. I think VM..to add made some great points.. that I agreed with. GSP wants to be the Champion.. he doesn’t want to be a fighter..IMO.. that’s how I’m interperting it. Can GSP beat BJ.. yeah he won a decision a minute ago.. can BJ beat GSP.. yeah if it wasnn’t for the 3rd round GSP takedowns.. he could of won that match. I would mind waitning till ‘09 to see this match.. but I would love to see it for New Years! GSP IMO should follow as “JOHN” stated ” the gold standard “.. Fight.. as often as you can.. fight as much top talent as you can.. go out there and put down..I want to this fight GSP vs BJ Penn2!!! Today it looks like BJ wants it more than GSP.. from the comments I heard from both fighters.
okay. i respect your opinion on this matter (somewhat) but what about my original comment on fedor? why doesnt he have to live up to this so-called “gold standard” and not get hammered by you and the other bloggers that you mentioned (jhon,vm). it’s easy to agree and blog with people when you know that they are not gonna disagree with a word you say.
Fedor is not human. I think he is cut from a different clothe then everyone else. I’m bias.. I’m a huge fan of his.. I’ll admit that. So to answer your question.. Fedor is Fedor.. He has yet to do anything human like.. so that’s why I leave him alone..there is alot of politcis around him.. with his inactivity i nthe last 2 years..but I look at what Zuffa did in purchasing pride and shutting it down.. alot of that stuff gets put into my Fedor equation. With the UFC not able to come to terms with him.. which.. sucked..but it didn’t really matter cuz in Affliction Banned he reminded my why he is the best HW on the planet. 27-1.. as a HW is impressive. He made Nog jits look white beltish in pride.
Phil and Mike, ive agreed with you guys on every point in this debate, of all times to wanna take a little break, of all times this super human athlete GSP could want to ease up on the training, and put fights on hold, he wants to do it with the undesputably biggest he has had, with the undesputed biggest threat to him?Coincidence? I think not.
I totally agree – GSP is not making excuses, he is being honest. He knows the effort required to prepare, what it is like to go in unprepared and why your mind has to be in the right place. AND don’t forget, he’s not just a fighter on each card – he carries every event he is in. There’s much more going on than vertical leaps and bench presses.
Right now, it is simply too soon after the Fitch war to be talking about the next fight. He needs some time to unwind and recharge. I think by October 1st a HUGE New Year’s announcement will happen….
I too commented on this in another thread and will repost it, as ist’s likely more relevant here.
Phil, john, VMike,
Jebus guys. Not that I want to get onto your respective bad sides here but doncha’ think it’s time to chill the F out a little on this. Your positions on GSPs recent comments are completely based on your love for your favorite fighters (Fitch and BJ) and are perhaps more than a little harsh on one of the sports top PFP fighters? All the sudden you guys are back on the Pete Sell line of GSP being a “mental midget”. What a crock. Did you guys see the fights on Saturday? GSP completely dominated a guy that you guys thought would give him a really tough test. I mean john, you’re all defending Fedor for fighting “the worlds fattest man” or whatever freak they put in front of him in Japan in NYE, meaning we won’t get to see him fight someone meningfull for another what, 7 -9 months? But he gets a pass because he’s awesome, right? Well I have news for you guys, GSP is also awesome and has earned more respect than you guys are giving him.
I also live the armchair psychoanalysis of his post fight comments and demeanor. “He’s scared, I could see it in his eyes.”. Ridiculous. GSP has fought BJ before and won and is a way better fighter than he was the last time they fought, by all accounts. IMHO, I think GSP is going to handle BJ based on his size, speed and athleticism alone. And I also think that if BJ doesn’t have to make 155, his cardio just won’t be as good as it was when he beat Pulver, Lauzon, Stevenson and Sherk at 155.
By-the-by, and this goes for all of you, I usually respect your fight opinions and look forward to your comments over here at MMA Mania, I just think on this one you guys are way out of line.
well said! i couldnt have said it any better, and believe me, i tried.
I hope to see you guys here @ mania on a regular basis.. this is where the best MMA fans i nthe world meet. Regardless if we agree to disagree..Canucklehead b.w. I respect your opinions and points of views.. We are part of the reason mmamania makes some much god damn noise in the MMA culture.
P.S. If GSP is the favorite going into his showdown with Penn.. the gamblers around here.. IMO.. BJ Penn will make ya’ll alot of $$$$..if ya’l bet the right way.
Great Post Canucklehead.
As a preface to all my posts, its understood that I love to hate GSP, Bisping and Kos.
Henderson, Leben, Diaz’s, and yes, the Fitchster are my favorite fighters. I haven’t been saying much about the Henderson/Palhares fight because that dude’s BJJ has me worried!
GSP is the best WW on the planet. He proved it. I now want to see him fight BJ, while BJ is in shape. BJ said that he would come into the fight like 165 lbs. He will be in shape, not fat and unconditioned. BJ has been GSP’s toughest test the last couple of years.
Also, if Thiago Alves beats Deigo, he deserves to get his punchers chance at GSP and the title. If Serra can clip GSP behind the ear, I gotta believe that Thiago can too. Can he? Sure. Well he? I highly doubt it.
Nice to see you give Canucklehead some props. I truly believe that these are 2 of the best pound for pound fighters in the business. This fight will happen, not sure if it will be this year, but cut GSP some slack. These guys are my heroes, but even heroes gotta put on there street clothes and have a personal life too. While training these guys give up there personal lives, no time for friends, family or other hobbies. IMO, a person that gives up 100% of there time has a good chance of becoming whacko and I for one don’t want to see GSP getting hauled away in a police car. If this fight doesn’t happen, I will jump on the cowardly bandwagon.
what about BJ Penn? he openenly said he was taking it easy, why aren’t you on his case? BJ can get 6 months off, but GSP can’t? please.
Who will BJ Penn.. fight that is worth fighting now.. outside of KENFLO?? BJ wants GSP.. He waited for his title and for GSP’s title defense.. no he wnts to fight GSP.. and what BJ wants he gets!! He is the F’n Prodogy.. an automatic UFC/MMA legend. I don’t question BJ.. he is battle tested.. a proven warrior..a proven Champion.. GSP?? well is not. GSP should be itching like chicken pocks to fight BJ Penn.. He just called him out!!! And what was GSP’s response??? What did GSP say when Serra had to pull out of the Hughes fight? That he stays in fight shape all year round.. VM.. made an excellent point.. GSP is ready physically..but not yet mentally to fight the UFC LW Champ BJ ” The Prodogy F’n ” Penn!!!
BJ is moving up in weight, so he needs the extra time to put on weight properly.
PhilQNY, what are you smoking? “BJ is a proven champ and GSP isn’t”. BJ has ZERO title defences EVER at LW or WW. BJ DIDN’T earn EITHER title shot. He COULDN’T win a belt at LW so he got a FREE title shot at WW. His next 2 fights at WW PROVED that BJ hadn’t proved SHIT and his free belt was BOGUS, because if he took the long way, like a REAL (proven) champ, he would have lost to GSP and maybe others before he even got to Hughes. So, for losing 2 fights at WW Penn is awarded (you guessed it) another free title shot, at LW. He hasn’t defended that belt and you THINK he’s a proven champ.
GSP on the other hand has MORE than proven he is a legitimate champ. He only has one title defence(That is still 100% more than Penn has),but that is purely semantics, he destroyed all the same guys he would have fought had he beat Serra, he just has 1 defence instead of the 5 defences he would have. Would you somehow be more impressed if he did it while he had a belt in his closet at home. He cleaned the division and beat them ALL and you THINK he hasn’t proven himself. Someone is smokin a little to much hippy lettus,lol.
EXACTLY! Why isn’t anyone giving BJ a hard time for pretty much abandoning his weight class to wait and fight GSP! I know you have to respect Penn for his willingness to fight anybody at any weight class but there’s ALOT of guys in line for a title shot @ 155 and BJ put that on hold to satisfy his own ego. Is GSP a little nervous about fighting BJ? Yeah probably a little but he will do it.
I don”t know what that Cogito ergo sum guy was talking about but on everyone’s lists GSP is the #1 170 fighter and Jon Fitch is #2. Bj is #1 155 fighter on most lists but sherk is usually #9 or #10. Sherk is a bad ass, strong 155 but how was his fight with BJ tougher on bj than gsp vs fitch? Sherk didn’t even try taking penn down to win the fight, he just got beat up on his feet.
If BJ was such a bad ass he would fight a gain in september and then in dec.
Very good points Mattchupichu!
perfect analogy!
These god damn BJ nut hangers need to get a grip(outside of gripping his nuts). Give it a rest already. I love watching BJ fights aswell, but before you make all the noise, I like to see him fight a top 5 contender at 170. I don’t think it will happens b/c if he looses, the “dream match” might not happens and kill the opportunity for a great sale. For god sake, what make you think he can beat Fitch or some other top dogs? He could not even top the scale at 170 being fat. Give me a break, he lost to M. Hughes b/c of cardio condition.
I bet most of you can’t even run 15 min straight but could talk for days. Training is a bitch, so give St. Pierre a little break.
Second that Lucas.
Rediculous, Lucas has never heard of BJ Penn untill two weeks ago it sounds like. They dont give him a hard time cuz he IS NOT abandoning his weight. He said multiple times he is intersted in the Kenny/Roger fight and the GSP/ Fitch one becuase he will keep defending the LW title. He doesnt have to abandon it to fight at WW, didnt you all just watch the MW champ fight at LHW? Where was all this panic then? Chill out, what is wrong with all of you.
Come on Phil, you know better than that. No matter what GSP or BJ wants they do not pick their opponents. GSP was being politically correct – whomever is decided to get the next shot gets the next shot. This one was not going to get lost in the translation.
Lol since when do you think they don’t pick their fights? How do you think Tito was able to dodge Chuck for so long? How come GSP didn’t get a rematch against Hughes as quickly and how come Hughes got to fill the place of Serra when he was injured? How about the Hughes Serra match all together? Randy was getting the UFC to try and buy Fedor for him. Chuck is fighting Rashad. BJ gets an auto shot at GSP, and Sherk didn’t have to re climb the ladder after a suspension. If you are a UFC loyalist as a fight the UFC will bend over backwards to get you the fight you want. They just won’t pay you half a mil for it. If GSP wanted to he could have said, lets do it on the next card and the UFC would have made it happen.
I’m not saying it won’t happen (re: my reference to an announcement by Oct. 1st). What I am saying is technically speaking, the match-maker (AKA Joe Silva) picks the matchups. GSP was respecting that component of sanctioned MMA bouts, and was also being careful not to say something that could be misinterpreted due to the translation.
DJ: I ask you..right now.. what fight makes cents..and is MMA worthy for us fans to see. BJ Penn will not be challenged for his LW UFC Belt…Kenny will get his shot.. and if GSP wants more time.. then it will be BJ Penn vs Kenny Florian.. but 9.9/10 times we all know BJ will win.. GSP jsut beat IMO the only fighter in the UFC’s 170..in fitch.. no one will beat hi mforsome time at 170.. BJ’s and GSP’s 1st meeting was a close fight.. with a BJ being not in Shape. which wass his fault.. but with how Dana likes to give Mir’s, Forrest’s title shots.. why not ink this MEGA fight.. both are on top of there games.. have them fight now!!
Phil – I agree with you regarding a GSP/BJ match. It will be a super matchup and I do believe it will most likely happen NYE with an announcement coming in a month or so.
What I am saying is technically speaking, the fighters can yap all they want about wanting to fight each other – it is only hype until the decision is made. What I am also saying is GSP is not ducking anyone. He just finished a brutal war and people are pouncing on him regarding the next bout. He’s barely catching his breath and BJ is there “let’s make it happen,” etc. Give him some time to recover.
Does the level of general intelligence around here seem to be deflating? I swear there wasn’t so many people putting words in others’ mouths only a few months ago…GSP said “Of course I want this fight” to BJ when he came into the ring. He said that he wants to fight anyone who deserves the fight. He also wouldn’t mind a little time off. 4 times in 12 months is a lot considering all the training you have to do. It basically means you’re training hard every day. Being on a strict diet, and emotionally your mind has to have time to relax from being so focused constantly. Why can’t people just take something for what it’s said?
Dave, it’s BJ fans we are talking about here, they say the craziest things.
Howmany times has bj fought this year? GSP has fought 4 all against top compition. It might not apear that gsp took damage but I am sure his body tells a differant story.
I really hope nobody starts calling him a Coward or anything of that sort. Fighting every 3 months = 12 weeks. Good training camps take about 10 weeks. Look at that, all he gets is 2 weeks for his body and mind to relax. All that training has gotta take a toll. Shut it down GSP. But don’t pull a Rampage, and come back slow and outta shape.
or a year later after your first title defence
Its not cowardice but I agree with PhilQNY, if GSP isn’t injured he could fight at the end of the year like A Silva. Yes GSP has been in the Octagon for longer than Silva in his 4 fights but he hasn’t looked troubled in any of them. It is the fans been greedy but would be THE BEST fight the UFC could promote to end the year.
I wouldnt say he is a coward either because I know he will eventually fight BJ, this is more like stalling and I am not to happy with that.
I know training camps take a toll on you, but lets be honest, regardless of how many rounds GSP has fought over the past 12 months, he hasnt taken ANY damage in his fights in this past year. GSP, rarely takes any damage, so if he can Physically be ready to go in December, I think he owes it to the fans, who are all salivating over this fight, to man up fight BJ and defend his title against another top 5 fighter.
With his domination of Jon Fitch, I finally think that he has PROVED to be a really top fighter, like Anderson Silva is. HOwever Silva is the gold standard, and like GSP, Silva doesnt take any damages in his fights either, so he constantly keeps fighting. TO be on Silva’s lvel, GSP cant start taking long lay offs just cause he wants to. If yu are Healthy, then you should go! There are going to be plentty of times through out his career that he will be injured and be fORCED to take BREAKS, so he should maximize the # of fights he has while he can. Thats what Prince Silva does (Fedor is KING)!.
I don’t think you can knock him b/c you have no idea what he goes through… The guy is ontop of the 170 division and young and rich.. If I was in his shoes i’d want to take some time off and party as well. He never said he wasn’t going to fight bj.. just it might be a month or two later.. big deal..you guys are just mad b/c you want to see it now
and yes john we know you’re in love with fedor… it is a little scary too
I can honestly say that if I were in GSP’s shoes I’d fight as often as possible. Money is not something that matters to Penn, rather respect which is why people love him so much. Nobody really knows what matters to GSP, I suppose the title does but doesn’t that matter to every fighter? The point is I don’t want to see Penn go fight Florian then get cut up and be out for 6 more months, or worse I don’t want to see Penn lose due to some lame cut. Basicly I don’t want to wait a year before I see this fight or give either Penn or GSP a chance to lose their straps. If this happens it’ll take away from their potential rematch.
Isn’t Penn’s family wealthy? Is that why money doesn’t matter to him?
Yep lol
As much as I’d love to see this fight, I can wait until the new year. GSP needs to be motivated and I don’t think Penn should be allowed to jump back to WW until he has defended his LW belt. There’s are just too many worthy contenders at LW that deserve a shot.
there is nobody in LW that has a better chance then 6 to 1 to beat Penn, the betting sites odds will tell you that if it happens. Are those all the “worthy” opponents your talking about? Fight GSP!!
and bj should have to fight another top 5 WW to get the shot, he’s failed at to fights in WW.
did you guys know that when Frank Mir needs training gear he visits MMAWarehouse.com?
Thats the rumor.
And let me guess… you’re one of their sales reps?
Kind of almost sounds like the deciding factor is if will be in Canada or not. I hope this fight happens.
Bingo, GSP is doing everything he can to persuade Dana to hold the fight in Montreal. Wasn’t there always problems booking that area in the winter, because of the NHL games.
If this fights gonna happen we want GSP at his best, so if we have to wait an extra month we will. It would be awesome if it happened in montreal though.
The UFC should go to Hilo, Hawaii!! bring GSP to the islands.
I live so far from Hawaii, but I would love to see BJ fight there. The crowd would be really INSANE because Hawaii truly does have great mma fans!
I’ll come home to see that one! and GSP would gain more fans and respect if he defended his title in Hawaii. The people always tend to opend there hearts to fighters who come and fight our local boys win or loose! just ask Jason Miller the guy is loved in hawaii.
I find it amusing that GSP beat up Fitch for 5 rounds and he is thinking of taking the rest of the year off, whereas Fitch who looks like he was beat up by a gang, says he is eager to get back into the octagon before the end of the year.
It is perplexing how different their psyches are for fighters, whereas one needs to refuel psychologically by taking time away from fighting, the other has to refuel psychologically by fighting soon.
Just thought I’d add that.
DirtyML, put urslef in a Fighter’s psyche. You get your face handed to you after being stomped by a marching band, I think anybody who has a competitive nature is going to want to fight to get that last image of them outta people’s minds. On the other hand GSP, has been non-stop against top-notch opponenets (maybe except for Serra). Guy deserves a break.
GSP has been at least the co-main event for the last 2 yrs. There is much more involved as far as PR responsibilities with that status. Add in that he has double that with interviews and appearances in two countries/two languages he is PR’ing it in. Fitch did it for three months.
Comparing psyches of two fighters in two totally different places is apples and oranges. GSP has been doing this time and time again. Fitch wants to get that bad taste of losing out of his mouth. He was so close and now has been knocked back why wouldn’t he want to get after it again. I have to think if you jumped back to GSP after the first Hughes fight it would be a similar mindset.
It isn’t necessarily different psyches. Anybody who has ever competed at a high level wants to come back immediately after a loss. There was zero pressure on Jon Fitch in that fight. GSP had a ton of pressure on him and went out and destroyed Fitch. He will do the same to Penn. He doesn’t need to talk sh*t and call people out. It’s like he said before, “I do not use words to intimidate my opponent”.
F*ck BJ Penn. When they fight he will get destroyed to.
Has Fitch been training STEADY since Serra-GSP 1. Well, GSP has and that is one hell of a long time to go without a life outside of the gym. That and all the PR leaves no time to live. It’s not like he is taking a year off, just a few months longer than he usually does. Besides, as of now this is only speculation. This fight could very well still happen in dec. If Dana wants this fight to happen in december, it will. A big pile of green can change anyones mind.
Boos. The only reason I’ll accept is if he’s banging Mandy Moore around the world.
GSP has fought 4 times in the last year (going back to August 2007) and Fitch has only fought 3. Not saying anything by that, simply an observation.
Unfortunately, 4 months to showtime doesnt mean long vacation. I wouldnt be surprised if he needs to train for at least 2-3 months straight for that fight.
Some people just need a reason to hate. GSP is not ducking Penn, he just wants a rest. 4X in the last year he’s fought. If you look at Penn he doesn’t fight as often as GSP and hasn’t fought since May. I don’t see anyone calling him out for not defending his title. If you want to compare something look at this:
GSP’s last 4 fights were from August 25, 2007-August 9 2008
Penn’s last 4 fights were from September 23 2006-May 24 2008
We should just consider ourselves lucky that GSP doesn’t fight as infrequently as Penn.
I almost think that GSP would have to be mentally stronger to hold off because he knows everyone wants this and he’s got to know that the haters out there will accuse him of ducking. Of course this could be a renegotiation tactic for GSP as well because they are working on a new contract and I think GSP wants a raise.
Let the torching begin…
your right about how people just want to use any excuse to hate on GSP. The only reason why people want to hate him so bad is because he’s Canadian.
Shadyone33, you are probably right about the renegotiation tactic. Doesn’t he only have 1 fight left on his contract? That means he has to sign before he fights Penn. I don’t blame him for wanting his piece of the pie, he makes them a shitload of money.
most fighters only fight twice a year if that some only fight every 7 or 8 months!! good 4 him 4 realizing he needs a bit of a break! imo he has hearned it!!
GSP has amazing physical talent. Mentally, not so much.
THIS is why he’ll never scale to the level of Anderson Silva and why a fighter like Fitch will continue to improve and possibly end up a better fighter than GSP in time.
I’m not saying that GSP doesn’t have the desire. He just isn’t as relentless as others are.
People change with age though. BJ used to be quite the slacker…Not any more.
How can you question his mental toughness? Fitch will never be as good as GSP much less better and he knows it. He made a comment about GSP’s hip strength and speed saying that is was amazing and was something you can’t learn. What the hell do you think that tells you? Big mouth BJ is going to get his ass kicked. GSP has to much class to engage in a war of words. He’ll just make BJ’s face look like Fitch’s.
This just goes to show you how “weak” GSP is. Deep inside he is
shaking. Remember when he first fought Matt H? He lost because of his Mental weakness which is his greatest fault. All he needs to do is take a month off and his body and mind will be fully recovered. Ladies and Gentlemen, I tell you the truth and the truth prevails. GSP is AFRAID to face BJ PENN.
Look at the moment when BJ entered the Octagon in 08/09/2008. In other blogs I noted that GSP took two steps back when he saw
BJ confront him. GSP is deeply shaken when BJ is mentioned.
Anything but the truth, Mango. GSP was in no way shaken. You are imagining things if you think he was backing away. He was asked what is next for him in the division. His response was he is ready for everybody and he knows BJ wants a shot at him so let’s do it. That is when Penn was came in and GSP stepped forward and shook hands. He didn’t cower away like you say. But don’t let things like facts blind you….
Only in your mind, only in your mind.
Montreal, NYE dream card:
antonio noguiera vs. frank mir
bj penn vs. georges st. pierre
chuck liddell (granted if he wins) vs. forrest griffin
Wandi vs winner of Machida/Silva fight
Rua vs loser of Machida/Silva fight
Hendo vs Franklin (at whatever weight they decide)
brock lesnar vs. chiek kongo
maybe toss Gray Maynard on the card vs someone? Love that kid.
Thoughts anyone?
You guys that are criticizing have obviously never trained. Training and cutting weight in MMA is one of the hardest things to do. You are constantly cross training and your body has adapt to constant changes. It takes a tremendous toll on your body and mind.
GSP has fought this year more than any of the UFC champions in all the other weight class. Please spare yourself of seeming like a complete noob saying comments like GSP is ducking BJ. If you look at GSP’s history he has always fought whoever the UFC puts in front of him.
Anyways, I’m really concerned with all these fairweather MMA fans that don’t appreciate the athletes, sportsmanship, and honor. The same guys that are going crazy over Brock Lesnar and is crying out for blood or some standing KO every match. Its sad. I’d rather MMA have stayed underground than have it infested.
he has? how many times has silva fought (in two different weight classes)
2 Champs have fought the same number of fights as GSP and other fighters will be having their 3rd fight within 2008 soon.
thanks UK too tired to research today
I don’t think the calendar year is relevant here. GSP has fought 4 time in the past year, 365 days. It’s not much of a life when you take 1 week off and start training for your next opponent.
BJ BJ BJ will make sure its in Montreal, since GSP cant seem to get things done i guess BJ will have to put his foot down as usuall when it comes to Georges. Bout to whoop ‘em up in his home town, what a savage!!! Gettin booo’d all the way to the dressing room . . .with the belt = )
Yea maaaan!!!!!!!!!!
Do it in Hawaii. That way when Penn loses, 50,000 depressed BJ fans will filter out of the Aloha Bowl and walk up to the ledge of a volcano contemplating jumping. Don’t worry. There will be plenty of excuses they will find not to jump.
If you have’nt noticed this is about your boy DUCKING BJ haha!!!!
LMAO.
GSP won’t give BJ the belt, but he’ll sure give him a SPANKING,LOL. GSP GSP GSP
Contract negotiations??? Since GSP has only one fight left on his contract this statement could just have something to do with contract negotiations. After all, he can’t commit to a title defence without getting his contract extended. I think this is one case where “reading between the lines” makes sense.
good point!
Right Muscle Dolphin, this is a case of contract negotiations. The equivalent would be a football player sitting out training camp. It becomes an issue of ‘I’ll fight BJ in December if you agree to more of my contract demands.’
It’s a good move by St. Pierre. He probably needs some time off too so hopefully it can work out as a win win situation.
BJ sucks a big nut.
That’s funny your name is rearnaked and BJ defines that technic. You probably should change your name now. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s right, it’s the ONLY sub he has hit in a fight. OK he got 1 Triangle choke, but chokes are all he’s got.
I thought that any fight between St. Pierre and Penn would be a non-title superfight… I think the language in St. Pierre’s contract calls for an automatic 3-fight renewal if his last fight is a title-retaining win. Does that have something to do with it?
GSP will OWN BJ!!! It’s gonna happen, when it does I’ll laugh. Fat @$$ Penn will get tired and GSP will dominate him, Penn CANNOT go 5 rounds with GSP, if he can make it that far! GSP will take him down in round 1, after that say good bye to Penn’s “cardio”, out the window, his only shot in winning will be a one punch knockout!
Agreed totally. Gsp will defend penns sub attempts and all pen has other wise that MAY effect Gsp is boxing.
but gsp is way more rounded, stronger, faster. Did you see
his stats before the fight with Fitch – THE COMPLETE FIGHTER
and they werent KIDDING
It wont go 5… may be 3 bj will finish him….
gsp u r pau….
I like BJ a lot but moving up in weight is going to hurt his cardio. GSP is the strongest and most focused we’ve seen him. I believe GSP also has a reach advantage. It would be a great fight but signs point to GSP having an edge right off the bat.
Cut GSP some slack. I don’t care if he really is afraid of BJ, he will fight him. Just give him some time to recuperate. Wandy wanted to fight Liddell last year but said “no” to a September match up because he wanted more time. Then as we know they fought in December.
You guys need to stop the shit !
GSP is one of the most dedicate fighter to his fans, he always talk to them and he knows that they want that fight.
No doubt that GSP Vs Penn II will happen soon. If it’s not this year it will be early in 2009.
GSP duck nobody he only take a little break before his biggest challenge (BJ Penn).
And he deserves it !!! ..They will fight again.
So basically Penn is making Ken Flo wait until at least march or april of next year for the title shot he deserves in nov? Not to mention all the other 155 guys who a battling to get to the top a mountain, only to find the throne on top is empty.
This should be the main event for new years eve. I can think of no bigger fight. They are both great fighters. I give the edge to Penn.
Here’s the problem guys assuming there is no underlying contract issue as someone stated before. If GSP fights 5 times in a year, let’s assume he trains 6 to 8 weeks in advance for the fight 5X8= 40 or 6X5= 30. Thats 30 to 40 weeks out of a 52 week year that he is physically and mentally beating himself up. There’s no breaks in those training sessions he’s eating healthy training hard and until you’ve done something like that you have no idea the toll it can take on you. Cut him some slack (and let BJ get some more time in the spotlight before GSP wrecks him).
For the record, I do want to see this fight happen, but am fine waiting. It will only build anticipation over time. I love watching both guys compete but let’s face it, neither has a legacy as a champion yet. I want them to put their trademark on their divisions.
But everyone wants instant gratification. I was thinking why does everything have to be rushed into and came across an article on Sherdog that basically said exactly what I was thinking. Jason Probst has an excellent article on why this fight should not happen yet. As much as I want to see it, it does kill alot of value for two divisions and it should be given more time to achieve “super-fight” status. Right now, it will simply be a rematch. After a few title defenses for each they will on a different level and this fight takes on a new meaning.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/for-penn-lightweight-is-right-weight-14012
No excuses GSP, we as Penn fans want to see it happen and GSP fans want to baby there golden boy. I dont like weak minds and GSP is a weak mofo. Penn wants to do it we as fans want to watch it but poor little GSP wants more time. WHAA WHAA WHAA! 4 months is by far enough time to get ready to fight anyone. Penn took a fight with Hughes for the title in less than 5 weeks notice. BJ is just plain GAME! Lets go GSP quit making excuses and fight like the man everone of your fans thinks you are.
BJ is one of a kind. Oh wait. GSP fought Hughes in less than five weeks notice also. Or did you conveniently forget that?
K.C., I don’t know if you read the article. It doesn’t have excuses for GSP. But it does make alot of sense. I think you would at least find it interesting as a Penn fan if not agree with the rationale.
But back to the point, why is GSP labeled as ducking or as weak? BJ has been sitting around resting up specifically for this fight. So why should GSP be chastised for doing the same? If this is not the case, BJ should stand up like the champ he is supposed to be, say he will take on Florian in November so he doesn’t hold up the lightweight division and then these two can fight in February. Superbowl weekend superfight. How’s that sound to you, folks?
I read that article also and hope that EVERYONE ELSE WILL! It makes mor esense than what everyone else here is saying.
Everyone!
Read!
It!
only problem… can’t read French!
GSP doesnt fear no man..what he says makes lots of sense.
GSP by decision when fight happens.
anderson silva only fought 3 times in 2007. He has two fights this year so far. Anyone saying that he’s the man because he’ll fight anytime should take a look at his UFC record and see he’s not doing anything special in terms of frequency of fights.
GSP doing 4 fights in 12 months is nothing to sneeze at. All against top 10 fighters!
So Silva didnt fight top 10 fighters? Marquardt No 1 Contender, Ex-Champ Franklin 3 months later and Pride Champ Henderson in March 2008. Irvin is the only slightly dubious clame but Silva moved up a weight to face a guy who was drawing for the fastest UFC knockout.
I didn’t say anything about the quality of Silva’s opponents. Silva’s UFC record is extremely impressive.
I said “he’s not doing anything special in terms of frequency of fights.”
I don’t know how you got to the conclusion that I’m insulting Franklin, Marquardt, and Henderson.
Yes, but Silva has come out and said they are fighting him enough and he wants to be out there more frequently.
Maybe BJ Penn should stop hiding from Kenny Florian. Or avenge his loss to Matt Hughes. Didn’t Hughes TKO him the last time out? “Oh but BJ was out of shape” And? GSP gets slammed for overlooking Serra and is called a “mental midget” all the time for one mistake. BJ is an arrogant prick (a supremely talented one, mind you) who got his ass kicked when he fought Hughes. And whatever excuse you can come up with for him, it’s no where near as compelling as the fact that GSP couldn’t see a damn thing during their last fight. BJ is overrated- the fact that it took him until he was 29 to start training properly just shows who the mental midget really is.
The fight will happen. Relax. It’s a bit hypocritical to call out GSP for wanting to take some time off after a fight when Penn fights what, like twice a year?
I dont slam Gsp for losing to Serra but for tapping out like a little bitch when he wasnt in any kind of real danger, hes a good fighter but not a good champ, he has not heart. Any way Im pretty sure Gsp’s next fight will be the winner of Alves vs Sanches and not penn
Great post, good point about who is really the mental midget. I love the irony, the people calling GSP a mental midget are the same one’s that are hanging from BJ’s nuts. BJ is talented ,yes, but he has always been inconsistent and has never really put his mental game together.
BJ is KING in hawaii… his dad OWNS hilo, his mom is running for office, his brothers run the gym, and he kicks everyone’s a$$. check it out… some dude on a thread put his kid on BJ over GSP!!! lolhahHAHAHAHSHhahas;lkdjha;lskbjpenn.com – marco, last comment
Right now both fighters are healthy and have adequate time to prepare for a year end fight.
WHY WAIT or put this off? The longer you wait the greater the odds of something happening to screw this up. If BJ has to fight someone else (like Kenny) he could get injured even in a fight were he destroys him, by breaking his hand or whatever. Then GSP goes and fights someone else and we have to wait for the stars to align again.
I believe GSP is tired from fighting a lot, but PLEASE, if this was anyone but BJ he would be damn sure ready to fight 4-5 months from now. He was ready for Hughes at the drop of a hat. He’d fight Serra again next week if necessary.
If GSP stalls the bout, even if he wants it to be his next one, he opens up the possibility of it not happening. The longer you wait the more likely one of them could even get injured in training. Year end is perfect. WTF. Man up GSP and let’s make this happen. You are losing credibility by your obvious reluctance to fight Penn.
GSP is an amazing fighter. He has the tools to beat Penn no other fighter at WW. But I think he senses that BJ has his number. He might not even admit it to himself, but at a subconscious level the doubt is there. Does it look like BJ has any doubt. He got in the ring because he wants this fight NOW, before GSP slips through his fingers.
Remember how confident GSP used to be about fighting anyone else? How he used to make that give me the belt motion after his fight. Well he has the belt now. He has plenty of time to prepare for his next defense against Penn. Screw his personal life, he is the champion of the world and the best fight in mma is on his doorstep knocking.
MAN UP and face Penn now GSP.
I have to disagree with you in regards to Serra. Why would he fight Serra? What has he done to deserve a rematch? Nothing. Similar to Penn. Penn is 0-2 in his last 2 fights at 170. Its got nothing to do with him physically being ready, he always is in fight shape because he trains with his teamates for their fights. He said he’s MENTALLY EXHAUSTED, and who are we to doubt him.
That being said I think GSP should take a few weeks off, re-negotiate his contract, beat Penn, then Dana should give him some serious time off.
I agree with this. Everyone seems to overlook the fact that BJ is 0-2 in his last two welterweight fights. I don’t care what excuses you make for him. Each fighter has 1 successful title defense. I’m excited to see this fight but both of them are young. They’re not going to be 38 tomorrow. This fight would be so much bigger if they both proved to be dominant champs…
How does BJ have GSP’s number? His phone number? They fought once, and BJ lost. It was close, but it didn’t prove either way which fighter was superior.
you guys will take any quote you can to cut up GSP and say that BJ will destroy him and that GSP is mentally weak and all the rest of the bull shit. GSP just wants a little time off, big deal. the fights going to happen eventually…you guys are truly pathetic.
You guys that say GSP got no heart make me sick. I wouldn’t even think twice if GSP wants to take 6 months off. He deserves it. To be perfectly clear, BJ LOST in their last fight whether it is contested or not. GSP has the rights to accept or refuse this rematch. Just the fact that GSP wants to fight BJ down the line shows that he is not ducking BJ.
Having heart and being smart are two different things. What bothers me are guys that never trained, never fought, never lost pointing fingers and making all sorts of disparaging remarks on one’s character. It makes me sick. You have no idea what he goes through. I train MMA but not on the pro-level and even I would never judge him.
your comment says it all.
I second that.
He deserves a break. To be on fight mode all year round takes a toll mentally/physically. They fought once and I’m sure they’ll fight again soon enough. GSP probably wants to fight on his terms, not BJs. But of course, at the end of the day, money may be the deciding factor.
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Dude bj last fought in May, gsp in april then august, that gives penn like 9 months between fights and georges 4, I say let St-Pierre take his time, he just fought his ass off. Plus a rested GSP is a great GSP. Besides its his belt he should get the call,he earned it.
Well said!
Holy talk about people riding GSP. First off all when Rogan asked GSP about fighting BJ he had just done 5 rounds and like anyone, he may have been tired. People also have to realize that there are a lot more than just fighting that goes into the fight. 10-12 weeks of training including travel to different camps. This will take a toll for anyone and all GSP is saying is that he may want to rest for a little bit. Give him credit for being honest and also for wanting to have a “vacation”. He has probably had less than 2 weeks off in a year. People that sit behind desks with no physical activity get more vacation a year than that.
Let both BJ and GSP show up in prime shape and give us an entertaining fight. I think us fans are also being a little demanding and how often do you see boxers defend world titles? 3 or 4 times a year?
If you were in GSP’s shoes, you would also want to live a little and enjoy life. I am sure he has a line of girls that want a piece of him too. LOL
This is my point…. all the talk about GSP ducking, etc., pure foolishness. The man deserves respect for what he just accomplished. To be interviewed the next day and say you need a rest isn’t out of line. In a few weeks he’ll feel more back to normal and we’ll see what the rest of 2008 holds for him.
TAKE YOUR TIME GSP! Don’t “rush” into anything. You’re top 3 in the world. You don’t have to do anything you’re not ready for.
This is like a game of broken telephone.
GSP says: “For my part, I do not know if I will go back in the Octagon before 2009. I had four fights in the past 12 months. So I need rest. I like my life, but sometimes I have to relax”
People hear: “There’s no way in hell I’m fighting again this year, especially against BJ, who I’ve already beat and does not even deserve it. I gave you idiots 4 fights this year, what more do you want? I don’t want to be wasting my youth on fighting. I’d rather just party for the next year or so.”
Brandon A (the comment below) heard the latter.
He’s scared of BJ because BJ isn’t some wrestler he can take advantage of.
Just like how GSP wasn’t able to lay-and-pray BJ in their first fight?
yeah because BJ’s Welter weight record of 1 win with 2 losses is so intimidating. lmao, you guys are so delusional.
Well BJ’s 2-0 at Middleweight!!!!!!!
ooooowned.. HAHA!.. im gonna use that 1.
wow, a couple of gracies! there nothing compared to GSP
Mc19, beating the Gracies are quite the feat. If you don’t beleive me ,just ask a Penn fan. So what if one only had 5 fights and EVERYONE else was beating Renzo at the time. Renzo did win 1 out of 7 fights when he was on that losing streak, so he wasn’t that BAD.lol
Screw having it in Montreal, I want the FUCKEN fight in HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get it straight…UFC ain’t ever going to happen in Hawaii…they’ll probably host another Elite XC with Dog the Bounty Hunter in the main event
The mention of Serra got me thinking. Serra should come out tomorrow and call out BJ Penn. That their last fight went to a controversial decision that he felt he won and will win a rematch. He has to wait around for Hughes to get healthy anyway. He should announce his return to the lightweight division. He is a former welterweight champion so he has the credentials to come in and challenge right away for the lightweight title, just because he asks for it, right?
Uhh, no. BJ won that fight.
Yeah,but Serra got a title shot without going through the division,beating all the contenders, to earn it like a TRUE champ. Oh wait a minute, you got me there, neither did BJ,LOL.
if gsp doen’t come through i see a lidell vs griffin fight instead
In what world are you people living, WWE?
Clearly, BJ pushed for what he wants with some lame WWE style theatrics, but there was no deal done with Dana or GSP on this, otherwise GSP would’ve said “Let’s do it”.
GSP doesn’t have to “sign on stage” after 25 minutes of war, with no guarantees on the when, where and $$$. Usually there is something called “negotiations” with “promoters” and “agents” (real words, you can look them up in the dictionnary).
It wouldn’t have been smart for GSP to go over the heads of Dana and all the fighters in LighWeight and WelterWeight just to please BJ.*
GSP will have plenty of love for BJ when they’ll meet in the Octagon. Loving knees, tender elbows and hugging takedowns for BJ’s hello kitty face.
* NOTE: Having lost his last 2 WelterWeight fights, BJ probably doesn’t even deserve a direct shot at the WW champ.
Damn you blood thirsty mob. GSP just put on one hell of a fight 4 nights ago. he dominated a top 3 ww in anybodys rankings. and already he is being called a coward? look fat penn already had his shot he lost his last 2 ww fights. hughes and GSP. screw him he quit 170 packed his bags and dropped down to 155 where he belongs. who is he to demand a 170 title shot. 2 losses chump work your way back like everyone else. florian deserves a 155 title shot. act respectable and decent for the first time in your life. dude you have a 14-4-1 record you are not exactly a world beater. let gsp take his well deserved rest, let bj fight florian(win or loose kenny deserves a shot), and let gsp return in early 09 to have a super fight at a catch weight with anderson silva. i wish to god i had joe silvas job
Fat Penn?? Can’t you GSP nuthuggers come up with a better insult?
I came up with “hello kitty face” 2 posts above. But I wish BJ all the best. Us GSP fans share the class and sportsmanship GSP has. May the best man win. See… class.
I don’t think GSP needs to reconsider anything at this point. They can build the GSP VS Penn fight early 2009. If BJ and Florian want, they can fight ASAP. The Leben VS Bisping card needs a championship fight, even a lopsided one.
What excuse does GSP have, I want to rest a bit, I’ve had four fights this year. This doesn’t sound like GSP to me, what happened to the fighter who took on hughes in 5 weeks notice?
gsp had already been in training for that fight, anticipating that 1 of them could get hurt during training (niether hughes or serra are spring chickens). plus how hard do you think he had to train for hughes? how hard do you think alves trained for hughes? not too hard, coming in 7 lbs overweight. give it a few weeks, like mania said, gsp might change his mind (money?) by then.
He wasn’t renegotiating a contract then. The fight will still happen, no worries.
You BJ nuthuggers will take any quote from GSP and turn it around to insult him.
GSP says: I’m a little tired
BJ nuthuggers hear: GSP is scared and is ducking BJ because he’ll get destroyed.
The only way GSP will win if it goes to a decision. I can’t see him submitting or TKOing BJ Penn. On the flip side, BJ must submit or TKO GSP in order to win. With that said, slightly greater than 50% chance the fight will be go to the judges.
OMG an unbiased opinion!
That’s my honest opinion. I like both fighters, with a slight lean towards BJ.
Yeah, is it okay to like both fighters a lot? Why so polarized here?
If GSP has some concerns about injuries healing then over 4 1/2 months being too short between fights might be understandable. But couldn’t he take a month off to relax and re-up mentally and then have 3 1/2 months to get ready for BJ?
If he could take BJ out then he will have cleared the slate of all of his main challengers and no one would fault him for then wanting a big break. Who cares if Alves has to wait awhile to fight him?
This fight is one for the ages. If too much time goes by something could screw it up and delay it. There is no real reason GSP shouldn’t be ready to fight in almost 5 months time. He needs several months of mental rest? Please. Imagine Anderson Silva saying that.
For all you guys saying BJ doesn’t deserve a shot, wake the hell up and realize that this is one of the best fights in the history of mixed martial arts. The belts and contender status is utterly irrelevant bs in the big picture. These guys are two of the best most talented fighters ever to step in the octagon, they are in there prime right now, they are both champions of their divisions and Penn is a former WW champ, their last fight was a razor close split decision, and they have more than enough time to get ready.
If you do not want to see these guys fight each other as their next bout, in the nearest possible future, you are not a fan of mma at the highest level. You are just someone who wants to quibble about stupid details or you just don’t get how good each of these guys is and how much of a perfect match up they are for each other.
The only guy holding this up is GSP and I won’t accept that he wants to delay the fight longer then the end of the year.
I agree Mc19, GSP might have been ducking something, but it wasn’t that he is scared of BJ. They noticed some unsureness is his voice,but neglected to notice it was when or how he said,”BJ deserves it” (or better yet, how he sidestepped around it). GSP want’s to move up to MW and challenge for the belt,but ONLY after he has cleaned his own division. I don’t see why he would hold a different standard for BJ than for himself. I don’t think he does beleive Penn deserves it, when he has only beaten, Stevenson and Sherk. I don’t think he deserves it either(at least fight Florian) and I don’t care, I want to see this fight. A fight like this is more about what the fans deserve and it could lose some of it’s appeal, for various reasons if it is put off to long. GSP will fight him regardless,because he always fights whoever the UFC put in front of him.
I don’t know what the hell I did, but my post is supposed to be up by Mc19’s. My bad.
bj cant fight at 170 hes to small. to have the cardio he will need to go a 5 rounder with gsp. he would naturally be leaner. to put on weight to fight at 170 he would not have the lungs. so you guys that are deep throating on bj. and fighting over who gets to lick his sack, please dont emberass yourself just be glad he fights in shape at 155, where he is very dominant. hes already had a shot at 170 and he failed
He’s already been a WW CHAMP! GSP got hospitalized from his last fight with Penn and barely won a split decision. No one at any weight class has ever kicked BJ’s ass including Machida at 205! Yeah sure, he’s too small for 170.
Can’t wait to see everyone who doubts BJ can handle GSP swallow those words by year’s end. GSP might be able to beat him but he’s going to need the best fight of his career to do so.
Revjames13- “No one at any weight class has ever kicked BJ’s ass”
Really?
I seem to remember Matt Hughes TKO’ing his ass the last time they fought.
As for GSP being hospitalized- how embarassing is that for BJ?
Fights a half-blind opponent for 2 rounds, can’t finish him, can’t defend takedowns or control the Octagon and loses a split decision.
BJ is a phenomenal fighter. I think if anyone is going to beat GSP in the near future it’s going to be him. But the worship of BJ is a bit hard to take at times.
BJ beats Pulver (a natural 145lber), Sherk (who GSP destroyed as well) and Stevenson and he’s going to destroy GSP?
That’s as idiotic as claiming that BJ ran to the lightweight division because he was afraid of GSP.
I would never suggest that BJ is going to destroy GSP. Penn is the underdog and will need a career best performance to beat him. I just think that he will beat him, that he’ll get a sub in a very, very close fight.
A lot of the BJ talk is based on people saying he has no chance against GSP and doesn’t deserve to fight him.
IMO, Matt Hughes did not kick BJ’s ass. As everyone knows BJ cracked his rib at the end of round 2 and lost all core mobility. Most other fighters would have thrown in the towel and not come out for the third. BJ did and Hughes got him in a crucifix and started rapping on his head. But BJ never tapped or even looked like he was being hurt by Matt’s strikes. Not an ass-kicking, it actually made BJ’s stock rise IMO.
Regarding the “eye poke” that was really the result of a knuckle from a punch, GSP fans act like BJ stuck a fork in GSP’s eye socket and that GSP was Stevie Wonder for the rest of the fight. His vision cleared up almost immediately. And yes GSP, perhaps the best takedown artist in mma, took BJ down several times, but he didn’t do much with the takedowns and I recall the fight ending with BJ working a sub at the bell.
Actually it was GSP getting out of a sub at the bell. Everyone doesn’t know BJ cracked a rib. Let me get this straight, BJ was STILL holding a big strong guy like Hughes, right up to the BELL (not 2 seconds before). You’ll have me beleive that BJ was able to do that,yet by resting 1 minute, he couldn’t even move his legs or arms to get away from Hughes’s (lighting fast ) strikes. Did he hurt his rib sitting down between rounds? I’m not doubting, losing core mobility from a pulled rib. I am doubting a rib was pulled (very baddly) if he DIDN’T lose core mobility IMMEDIATELY while still holding Hughes. He couldn’t walk to his corner, he held that sub WAY to long and simply burnt his legs and arms OUT.
GSP IMO is ducking BJ. I think physically GSP is stronger, speed wise, hard to say, mentally and technically I’d have to say BJ got the edge. I love both guys, true champs and both have warrior spirits. Fighting IMO is 80% mental, 15% heart, 5% physical and technical. So ofcourse I favour BJ. If two people both have guns and one happens to be slightly hesitant or gunshy, what happens?
GSP isn’t gun shy though. In his last 4 fights ,he has drawn at the sound of the first bell and opened FIRE like a MADMAN. What happens when someone does that? People start dropping like flies. BZZZ BZZZ BJ, LOL.
Another reason this fight must go down is that there has probably never been a match up in mma history in which the fans of each fighter have been more convinced that their fighter was going to win. And it doesn’t hurt that the winner can make a claim to #1 P4P.
CAN U SAY GAP DUCKING PENN !!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN….. what a pussy ……. he said i fight anyone who is deserving now he needs a break…. what a fag !!!
gsp iz 1 fag u can get his autograph at the buttler bldg. in nanakuli every friday & saturday night after he gives u 1 blow job (polish yo knob) …..
what a PUSSY!!!!!!
MARK MI WORD …. BJ WILL NOT LOSE TO GSP…….
I need to refuel psychologically.
WEAK PUSSY….HES SCARED HE SAID IT HIMSELF…. HES PAU…
GSP going get one ass whoop’n from BJ! Can’t wait. No matter where they fight, it could be in GSP’s hometown or Vegas. He’s gonna get his ass handed to him…….BJ PeNN all da way! 808 STATE fighters rule.