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August 8th, 2008
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Dana White is cool. I dont get the hate, but w/e. I hope Rampage comes through all the legal problems ok. He’s a good guy, you can tell. Hopefully he pulls through all this.
Yeah about Rampage… too much of a fake show with the baby and all.
for those of you who missed my picks in the cream thread, thanks for posting again mania!
FRIDAY MORNING CONVERSATION WITH KEVIN:
I debated all day yesterday, I’m going to get a little personal guys! My wife and I have been trying to have a second child for almost 2 years now. I was absolutely sickened by Rampage and Dana having a grand old time in that interview. I’m 100% sure him being god was a direct affect on that womans miscarriage, and he’s training and having fun. I really hope that Wand is his next opponent. this time I hope those knees leave Rampage in a coma. To think he used to be one of my favorites!
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UFC 87 predictions:
I think this is the only card in a while that looks great on paper, but could go either way. It has the makings of a pretty boring night of fight!
GSP will win, I can’t see him losing, and if we’re lucky, we’ll see the exciting GSP and it will be a KO, rather than the scared of getting KO’d wrestling gsp.
I got Herring in one of two outcomes. Catching lesner with a knee when he shoots, or weathering the initial lesner flurry, and submitting him! IN a perfect world brock tries to stand with him, but I doubt it!
I think Florian will win quite easily! I think he is overall more experienced and has better skills! I’m one of the few guys who loves Kenny’s elbows (I refuse to call them Hell bows)
Manny gamburian…why is he televised other than for the guys who nut for TUF. Congo is finally fighting a stand up guy, and should have an exciting fight, and we’re stuck with Karo’s cousin (mini Karo), a bit disappointing! Manny wins!
Rampage F*ucked Up Big Time.
Unfortunately, he will have to pay $$$ in the court of law.
Come on, ‘Page nuthuggers, let’s hear the excuses!!!
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I am by no means a Rampage nuthugger as you put it but what do you want the guy to do?
GO TO JAIL
No comment from me on Rampage, I don’t know enough about the details what happened with the mother n’ miscarriage and what they are attributing it to. When I hear more, I’ll give my opinion, until then, it was kinda wierd to see Rampage acting normal after such an abnormal event… I don’t know if he should be acting any different.
The other thing that is strange, is he hasn’t gone public with what happened and what the psychiatrists had to say. Some kind of statement to the public is warrented.
yeah rampage is a good guy. Its not like he just caused a woman to have a miscarriage or anything.
did you guys see the interview on yahoo? “she had a miscarriage a week later, he only hit her mirror” is what dana whit said. He’s a doctor now. older woman have tougher pregnancies, it’s been reported she was having a normal healthy pregnancy prior to being side swiped by a monster truck. No, a monster truck hitting you isn’t stressful or harmful to an unborn baby!
another quote from rampage…if i were a fighter of his caliber, I would care about wins/losses. I’m losing respect by the minute!!
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“It is what it is. I don’t care about fights because I’m a fighter. That’s not going to be the last fight I lose. Who cares about that? I don’t care about winning the fight. Who cares? I’m going to come back, train hard and make more money.”
he’s a doctor, and so are you. you know for sure that the miscarriage was caused by rampage. you were there when rampage hit her, and know how hard he hit her.
are you sure it’s kevin that don’t know **** ?
Have you heard of the saying “Innocent till proven guilty” why don’t you wait and see what the courts have to say before judging rampage and assuming it was something to do with him. I know Rampage going on his rampage was wrong and he should be punished for that but im still skeptic about the whole miscarrage thing and i doubt he even attributed to it but we’ll see. And what do you want from Rampage? Just to be thinking and saying sorry 24 hours a day all the time for something he most likely had nohing to do with.
WOW, I’m done guys, I won’t argue! I can’t believe that you guys don’t think he attributed to her miscarriage! I never seen you guys here before, I’m curious what the rational guys think. My opinions on this are done!!
yes. I would not be not be in a good mood or as happy as he is. I’m sure the woman that had a miscarriage is not acting like that.
I think you guys are missing Kevin’s point completely. Its the fact that instead of apologizing about his misdeeds he is making excuses. What Rampage did was not only incredibly illadvised on his part now he is working spin control with Dana.
First why was he delusional from not eating and drinking energy drinks? didn’t he do this in preparation for the Forrest fight, why wouldn’t he eat healthy after the fight? Second because he is in a bad place in his life and he is delusional its ok that he went on a Rampage through the city. and Third why couldn’t he appologize to the people he affected in his delusional wake and just say we will address the miscarrage in court but I do want to say my prayers go out to the woman who lost her child? It shows sympathy and responsibility but whatever he can act like a child. “I don’t care about winning, just making money” Geez man why don’t you just kick your fans in the balls?
*If a miscarrage is caused by anything other than emotional trama (meaning it was physically caused) the doctors would be able to tell. It seems that Rampage could be more at fault more than he is claiming and he should instead issue an apology (which he has not done as of yet to anyone) for such a crazy act (one f’ing apology seriously)
if you apologise you admit guilt. its a very dumb thing to do.
Why does Rampage have to issue a public apology just to make you happy when you aren’t involved? You are talking about things of a private nature and have no clue about other than speculation. Do you want access to the woman’s medical files also so you can really climb higher on your pedestal? You don’t know and have no need to know the details of Jackson’s legal affairs and the woman’s medical history. Moreover, I am glad you are not Rampage’s lawyer advising him to run around and film apologies. Donkeys!
i don’t think i missed kevin’s point
i’m sure everyone who is a defendant in any lawsuit is automatically at fault, and should be put in a coma by a knee by wandy. while i sincerely hope that woman did not lose her child b/c rampage, i still think he deserves a fair trial and not be judged.
if you really want to be mad at something, be mad at OJ simpson for being acquitted…oh yeah and, the fact that half the country elected gwbush. TWICE.
I’ve said it before…like a year ago, how long is GSP going to rock that same suit? I wear a suit once a year and have more options. I prefer my fighters looking casual, he’s not going to a meeting, he’s going to kick some ass. If he needs to wear a suit though, I respect that, drop 10k on 2 nice new ones and switch it up once in a while!
I think GSP needs to stop taking fashion tips from his boyfriend.
Yeah coming from guys that probably wear dirty jeans everyday and sports jerseys (yeah thats manly to wear another man’s name on your back)…
Dana White is just like the rest of us. He is a HUGE fan of the sport and gives us all the fights we want. The best part of it is he does not care what he say’s and tells it like it is. I hope he will be around for a long time.
Rampage is a huge draw for the ufc. They are going to protect him like a baby bear.
For those of you who think Dana doesn’t read what we have to say…what’s with the video blogs then? he’s catering to us!
Youd think he could afford a beter camera though.
I wonder how good Lorenzo is in his MMA training. If he is any good, he could have grudge matches against UFC fighters like McMahon does in the WWE.
For real…Lorenzo getting Muay Thai training by Mark Dellagrotte? I wouldn’t wanna piss off the boss when he knows how to throw elbows and leg kicks..haha..
I sure he has some of his worker bee’s looking at it. I doubt he really has the time to focus on our opinions. It would be a nice thought…
That was a sick video… has anyone else noticed how close Rampage has gotten with Dana White??? haven’t seen liddel in the picture in long time,.. it would be funny if rampage became the new UFC milk Cow and lidel is out of the picture..
You make an interesting point. Who knows how many years Liddel has left, but I could definitely see Rampage taking his spot as Dana’s boy.
Liddel Beats Evans and he will be back to the picture phase. Then you get forest vs liddel and the trifecta win,win for ufc rematch or rematch for the healthy loveable, all new Rampage Jackson. You can write this stuff….
Fucking disgusting!!!!!! Rampage making light of thinking he’s god and hitting people, driving on sidewalks, and being the reason for some poor woman losing her child. Now this asshole needs dana white to babysit him. I hope wandy puts him into a vegitative state!
yes wandi is my hero…. gotta love that guy..
Kevin, Lets hope nothing like this happens to you and before all the evdidence is in and we automatically decide your guilty. I understand your sensitive to this matter but let this play out in full until you accuse someone of killing a womans child (fetus). We wont know all the details for some time.
Don’t jump to conclusions or anything.
He wasn’t under the influence of drugs or alcohol and this isn’t in his nature. Not to mention, they were all irrational actions. These actions weren’t criminal. They were based on a dilusional mind state that sickness and a lack of nutrition led to.
He just needs to give his fighters a little more respect and appreciation, they all have a part in Dana’s success.
I bring this up because Dana didn’t allow any footage of Randy’s UFC fights to be shown on his Biography the other night. I just thought to myself: The only rational, business resoning for Dana to do that, is to soley prevent any of Randy’s ongoing success.
It takes good fighters as well as good business men to make the UFC successful. And I think Randy did his part as well as Dana. But, It’s the fighters that get the butt end of the stick during and especially after their career at the UFC.
Yes, business is cut throat, and Dana is trying to preserve the integrity of the company. But, Dana owes it to his fighters to aknowledge the success that they helped him to achieve well after they’re out of the UFC.
Randy signed the contract and did not do what he said he would when he signed, so no Randy did not fullfill his obligations.
True, that’s is the business aspect of it… I agree (like I mentioned). But, just like the music industry, the record company’s make all the money and success off the bands, the ones who have the actual talent to showcase, then when it is all said and done, the record company’s get all rights and reep all the benifits.
On the other hand, I do get your point. Randy is the one who signed the contract, and has an obligation to fulfill it. My question is: is there a clause in the contract that says if there is a breach in the contract, Zuffa will not allow any footage of any fights hereon after? Or is it Dana’s personal call?
I have a feeling it’s Dana’s personal call.
they have to give Rampage some good publicity after all of what’s happened.. I like Dana too he seems like a good person, but that doesn’t really change my opinion on him as a businessman i think he’s done some mistakes and he will pay for it..
Did you want to elaborate? What mistakes are you talking about? I think for where he has taken MMA, he’s a damn good businessman. We wouldn’t be posting on this site rght now if it weren’t for Dana White.
That’s the only down side to Dana’s actions as Pres.
How much respect does everyone get at there jobs???? We only see the media crap, and all these guys are making money. Before they got into the ufc, most of them it was there biggest dream. Not it’s they have no respect… I know as a manager i appricaiate every one of my employees and respect them, but i do not have to get on my knees and beg them to do there jobs. Everyones skin is getting way to thin and whiney. just my opinion.
UFC 100: Dana White vs Lorenzo Fertitta
thanks for the post jesse, this site has long ago surpassed it’s competition. One suggestin though..blow by blow of the undercards would be nice.
Hey Kev, we get it already..you dont like nor have any forgiveness for Rampage. I suspect most of us are very happy to see him back to his old self. Obviously, he still has to make some restituition for the damage he caused. I think we’ll see an even better Rampage now that he has new trainers.
No Doug, you don’t get it, I love Rampage as a fighter, but to read his quotes, you got to be a sheep to think this guy is sorry, or cares. And a fighter that fights and doesn’t care if he wins, whats the point of fighting? Kobe makes 100X what rampage makes, his goal to win a championship!
if kobe’s goal was to win a championship he would have kept his mouth shut and played with shaq for a few more years and showed up to the finals, his goal was to be the scoring leader
Lol thats still the same thing, scoring leader is trying to be the best you can be not make the most money you can make.
he wsn’t trying to win championships he was going for personal goals
Kev….as a father of 4 I too found the miscarriage news disturbing. But…when you are potentially facing civil or criminal charges you do not comment on the issue. You could easily prejudice your case…Especially as a celebrity where everything you say get’s reported and is part of the public record. I am sure he’s “lawyered up” tight right now and has been advised to not say jack about anything specific.
I would bet $$$ that as soon as Rampage knows which way the wind will blow on this he will absolutely issue a statement of condolence. Well…he will if he is any kind of human being at all.
As for his statements about the fight and “not caring”….I attribute that to “getting past” the loss. Stupid thing to say but having followed Rampages’ career for several years I know that’s BS. He cares big time. I think most folks would agree.
I am withholding judgement on Rampage for now because I still believe that “innocent until proven guilty” is the right way to go….
Kevin doesn’ tknow shit! You shouldn’t judge! You don’t think he loves kids.. He has 4 and he is a good dad.. You don’t know what that man does at night.. he may cry behind closed doors.. He might have reached out to the family. He didn’t do that to hurt anyone. As of right now there are no charges, he isn’t guilty of anything. As far as were concerned it was a chemical inbalance that created the state he was in that led to the unfortunate miscarriage of the auto victim. I am sure he is dealing with his demons and the aferaffect of that accident. I understand your feelings on life being precious but don’t assume he doens’t appreciate life because of a mistake. dont’ judge dude..
like I said man, I’m done. you’re right, he looks sorry and upset, and all these quotes I’m reading are made up. we’ll all agree to disagree on this one!
Look man life sucks we all know that. We live it to do the best we can. No one should be judged by another person. I am sure we all have things we have done that if put infront of everyone, people would not look on us the same. So relax. No one is perfect and life aint fair.
Unfortunately, you’re not done.
You’d have to be Tito Ortiz to loose this key…hahaha.
If it would have been a normal working person who would have done what Rampage did they would have been rotting away in jail in this very moment, if you are rich and famous you dont go to jail. It also helps to be black (believe it or not) because they can always use the race card to get out of trouble.
i don’t think its a race thing. some people say more money more problems. but i think its the opposite.
My glad to see that Quinton is ok.
Lorenzo is showing off the moves. It’s good to have the active presidents engage in their own sport. It helps them better understand how their fighters work.
It was interesting to see the owners of an MMA company practicing the craft. You don’t see Gary Shaw doing anything related to boxing or mma or active at all.
What, you think it’s easy shoveling all those donuts into his fat friggin’ pie-hole?! It takes years of serious training to get a physique like that!
I am sure that Rampage would like to publicly apologize and state that he was sorry if his actions may have contributed to that woman’s miscarriage. However, we live within a legal system that would use any expression of remorse by Rampage as evidence in a court of law that he is guilty. His attorneys probably told him not to mention it in public. However, Rampage does seem to be going a little overboard appearing so happy, which would understandably upset some people. Privately, Rampage certainly feels remorse and is fearful of legal consequences as most people would. His attorneys are probably expressing his apology privately and offering a financial settlement.
to all PAGE HATERS LIKE KEVIN S…..IT I WAS SHOT TWICE IN THE WAR I SHOT PEOPLE SOME OF MY FRIENDS WHERE KILLED BY KIDS AND THE ENEMY STILL THERE IM HERE FOR JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AND IM BACK TO IRAK TO FINISH MY JOB AND DO YOU WANT TO KNOWN WHAT MAKE MY LIFE HAPPY BESIDE FIGHTING FOR MY COUNTRY AND FOR YOU I GOT MY AMERICAN FLAG SIGNED BY QUINTON RAMPAGE JACKSON AND SHE WILL COME BACK WITH TO IRAK. JUST WANT TO SAID KEVIN DONT HATE MY HERO OR …. HAVE NICE DAY SOLDIER.
SARGEANT II JASON THOMAS
UNIT 52
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thank you for protecting all of our freedom, but that doesn’t mean rampage is innocent!
You spelled Iraq wrong soldier.
You are fighting for oil. Not for freedom. No WMD, no one from Iraq involved in 9/11.
Do we really need a bunch of political bullshit in an MMA forum?
Th fisrt post is B-shit. “The enemy” thats the B-shit.
kevin! i thought u were done? lets hope so!! always talking but dont say shit!! give it a break!! get a life!!
Damn! I bet there’s not another billionare on the planet that can kick like Lorenzo!
Dana’s the man - promoter-wise
Look at the Tom Atencio interview on mmatko.com - he doesn’t even remember the name of the guy Arovski’s fighting in October!
i saw that video. that was embarrising for him. he seemed totaly disintrested and couldnt remember half of the names of the fighters who are fighting on the next card. he kinda grimmaced and seemed uptight when asked if he was an actual fight fan, almost as if he didnt know what the right answer was. this is not the guy who i would want running my mma organization.
- Morning converstation with Donald Trump and Tom Atencio-
Donald: ” Hey Tom come in my office, we need to talk.”
Tom: ” Yeah, hmmm hmmm, oh yeah Donald, Donaldummm, I’m blanking… umm… Trump! Donald Trump… ummm wuz up?”
Donald: ”I like the shaved head and the big earings, Your Fired.”
Cool video, Lorenzo looks like he could be a kickboxer. As far as Rampage goes he will spend some time in jail, I am thinking 3-6 months, but for some reason I think he will do just fine in there.
Is it me or does K-Flo look kinda EMO in this video ?
okay i’ll bite. whats EMO?
Emotional..
Hate to break up all the Rampage talk, but I just wanted to mention something abt Dana: He DOES seem like a really cool guy. He DOESN’T seem to be the kind of guy who would lie to people or try to bully/cheat/manipulate fighters. But the facts are the facts. Many UFC fighters ARE underpaid. The UFC DOES have merchandising contracts which are very unfair to fighters. This evidence is available to anyone who wants to do Web searches and has some initiative. Maybe Dana is a cool person in a lot of ways. But facts are facts. I hope he learns and changes his business practices…
did anyone understand jason t’s last post