Matt Lindland and Vitor Belfort will duke it out for the first-ever middleweight title under the Affliction MMA banner — possibly the WAMMA belt — at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on October 11, according to Tatame.com.
Here’s a snip from “The Phenom:”
“I’ll come back in October 11th to fight Matt Lindland for the belt. It’ll be a great fight, we’ll see who is the best of the world there. I saw his fight with Negão and he’s a warrior … He comes be over you, but I don’t think he has the strength to stay over me. I’ll go to knock him out … My punches are well-aimed and when it hits he won’t stand.”
Belfort looked great in his first fight at 185 pounds, taking out Terry Martin in the second round at Affliction: “Banned” with a nice combination that was set up by a flying knee. He sustained a broken hand in the bout; however, he insists in the interview that he will be fine and ready to rock on fight night.
Lindland, on the other hand, did not appear to be in the best shape against Fabio Negao despite a unanimous decision win. Both fighters, in fact, were visibly gassed as the third round expired. Perhaps “The Law” — considered among the top middleweight fighters in the world — spent too much time on the campaign trail in Oregon rather than in the gym prior to the showdown.
Belfort could make Lindland pay if he doesn’t come in top form on October 11.
In addition to the championship showdown between Belfort and Lindland, WAMMA Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko is also expected to defend his title for the first time against Andrei Arlovski in the main event of the evening.
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Whats really going on here i would like know?
It has to be an affliction belt or it will just prove wamma is a farce!!! plain and simple!!!!
i know it would be such a farce! ….lol but then again i cant blame them for not wanting to put their guys up againts franklin,henderson, and SILVA!!!!!!!!!!!!
franklin? franklin would get owned by belfort, guarenteed
Ditto! Franklin won’t stand a chance. I’m still givin’ Vitor the upper hand.
The point being WAMMA Titles will be Affliction titles until someone decides to cross promote, so no real differant then Elite or teh UFC ect.
The other bakc mark for WAMMA is there belt was supposed to determine who is the best and they have yet have even a current champion fight for the title, yes Fedor was Pride but that was some time ago. He is #1 tho.
WAMMA was a joke before this rumor came about and if this happens will be even a bigger joke.
NO ONE will be considered the true middle weight champion until they beat Anderson Silva.
WAMMA is lame. If you go to their site you can read on their board members, and aside from Militech none of these guys have any MMA credentials. Such a fucking joke.
u know what would be cool? If the UFC changes its belts starting with UFC 100. THe current belts look nice, but they have been around for a while. THe UFC should change the styles of its belts every 100 events
That is a good idea
Maybe they have one with Dana’s pic on it?
Phil-
Then they can attach a pull string to the belt that has recorded messages as Dana’s pic spins clockwise:
“This is my f***ing town.”
“So you wanna be a f***ing fighter”
“Tito is a f***ing moron”
“Fedor is a f***ing fraud”
LOL, I’d be playing with that thing all day … I’d even wear at the grocery store.
nice one OJR. i swear “you want to be a f**king fighter?” is the greatest line ever.
grocery store? who are you tim sylvia?
If Belfort wins… is he a top ten 185 pounder?
vitor already is honestly, i see him being a tough fight for anderson not that he would make it far in the fight but he wouldn’t be an easy 2 rounds hahahahahaha
Is Vitor a Top 10 MW? I haven’t look at MW ranking for a minute now since there is really no need to due to Anderson Silva. However, Matt Lindland is always on the MW Top 10 list.
The strategy to this fight is quite simple. Vitor will try to stay standing looking for the KO. And Lindland will look for the clich/dirty boxing and working his ground control.
Vitor by KO or Lindland by decision. As of right now, I’m liking Lindland by decision. He is the definition of a grinder.
I checked a couple of top 10 MW lists, and Lindland was #4 and 5. Vitor did not appear on either list.
Can’t they just have an Affliction Belt??
This fight will go down like Tito vs Vitor. Matt will most likely survive the first round flurries.. clinch up. and lay and pray.. or some may call GnP.. a tired Vitor in the later rounds. This is a bad match up..IMO. I would love for Vitor to come out and get a KO.. but reality I don’t seeing going down like that.
To add.. Couture was in Vitor’s corner in his Affliction debut.. and Matt is Couture’s boy..
Who’s corner will Couture be in ? I say Linland.
This match.. I’m not too excited to see at all.
Phil-
Unfortunately, I agree w/ you.
I hate Lindland (see my list from the other thread) but I see him applying the blanket maneuver on Vitor.
Vitor looked good against Martin but I would not put too much stock in that victory (Martin is a B fighter at best).
Lindland has the ability to put me to sleep w/ his style.
If Vitor can keep Lindland off of him and blast him via KO…Otherwise, Lindland by a boring decision.
I don’t see Vitor having the cardio in the later rounds, if he can’t put Linland out in the 1st round.. to keep the distance and set up a punch combo..Matt will cut the distance and keep tiring Vitor out with his wrestling. I hope this fight is on the undercard.. I think my eyes would dry out and burn (pass the Visine plz)..watching this fight.
i agree i see linland all over him and i don’t think belfort will be able to get him off.belfort is the more exciting fighter but that won’t equal a win, lindland via boring decision.
Lindland is too old and gases to easy. His stand up is awful and Vitor has developed a pretty decent ground game. I say the old man gases and Vitor KTFO’s him at the end of round 2.
lindland gassed easy because he had pneumonia.. he told mmaweekly in an interview i read on there
to my knowledge couture and Lindland had a falling out so I think we will still se couture in Vitor’s corner.
Phil u may be right. Lindland has the ability to make it a really boring fight (he is the most boring top fihgter in the world). The only hope is that Vitor lets his hands fly and KO’s lindland! Vitor at 185 lbs might be able to keep the fight standing, or at least keep it standing long enough to knock Lindland’s smelly ass the F out! Vitor got blanketed by big guys like TIto at LHW. HOpefully he will be able to k,eep the smaller Lindland for blanketing him for 15 minutes but I wont hold my breath. vitor better KO him in the 1st 2 rounds because if I have to watch Lindland lay n pray for 5 rounds, my head might explode.
I say it all the time: there is nothing I hate more in MMA than 1 dimensional wrestlers, which LIndland is the posterboy for!
What was the basis of this falling out?
Spill the beans, please…
I dont know, thats just what I have thought for a while now.
Guess we will find out if Randy corners Vitor or not. I really do believe they had a failing out though. I am not sure where I heard it or what I heard, but thats what I thought.
If anyone can disprove me, please let ke know (not being sarcastic).
Of course Randy would be corning the fighter that trains at Xtreme Couture, Vitor Belfort.
Lindland has always trained at Team Quest with Hendo in Murrietta, California.
Randy trained at Team Quest in Portland Oregon.
It WILL be interesting seeing Lindland fighting with Hendo in his cornerr against Vitor, with Randy in his corner. It would be even stranger is vitor had trained at team quest in the past.
Lindland is a better wrestler at 185 than Tito is at 205, stronger, meaner. Lindland would choke out Anderson Silva. Lindland is p4p a top 10 fighter and just a bad style match for Spider. Lindland by guillotine in the second. As for Vitor, he will never be what everyone thought he could be. This will be like the third time he has tried to ressurect his career. I feelfor him but Lindland isn’t Scott Ferrozzo and will win this fight in unspectacular fashion, UD.
to many belts
Too many fake belts.
Amen.
I would love to see Belfort knock out Lindland. But I dont know, I think Lindland will take it. But I’m pullin for Vitor. I hope he can get on track and rack up some good wins.
I agree, I am always pulling for Vitor. Would love to see him back in the UFC
Don’t worry guys. The Phenom will take this one!
I figured this was going to happen, their roster is too small, their going to be recycling the same fighters over and over and over again. How long can they keep this up? Time to sign some new talent, maybe throw an offer at Huerta.
Watch next they’ll make Sylvia vs Rothwell.
i used to be a big fan of Huerta’s and now not so much. You don’t bite the had tha feeds you and makes you. Where is he goign to go? the best LW are in the UFC. Then again maybee afflictiona can hook him up with a Wamma belt and he could be their poster boy.
I didn’t watch the affliction show, did they have LW’s?? I accidently came by the Fedor, Belfor and AA fights on the net, by complete and total accident, but I didn’t see any of the others.
Sorry to inform you Ro-J but the best lighweights are not in the UFC, just check any ranking system that is availible. Oh my bad you mustve never heard of Shinya Aoki or Takanori Gomi.
lol, Gomi and Aoki are good but niether would beat Penn. Although I would love to see those fights.
they wouldnt beat Penn, actual Penn already destroyed Gomi, but Aoki and Gomi would beat a lot of other top UFC lightweights, as would Hellboy and Alvarez!
don’t forget jz
Oh I know the UFC has the BEST LW but they don’t have all the best LW’s.
Like any of these guys are best in the world.
Ditto!
lindland is up there not one or two but could be 3rd best in the world
he’s #7 on wamma’s list. vitor isnt listed at all.
to be fair, vitor has only fought once at middleweight and looked great. A win over Lindland and he will probably find hiself on that list sooner than later!
i want vitor to win as well. not a huge fan, but i hate linland.
everyone should be rooting for Vitor. Why?: its pretty simple. If LIndland wins the fight it will be a boring, wet blanket decision win. If Vitor wins, it will be a highlight KO! Root for Vitor!
But put your money on The Law
War Belfort!
Shower Lindland!
Whats up with his stink, i heard a few folk talk about. Sure he knows what soap is for.
Hahahaha!!!
Is that true?
Can anyone confirm this?
That’s just NASTY!
I think Rampage started that
Watch the post fight interview after there WFA fight, pretty funny stuff. Matt looks like a guy that would stink
Yeah, in the post fight interview, when both fighters were still in the ring, Rampage PLAYED lindland big time! Rampage was probably just trying to be funny, but Lindland couldnt have been to happy out Page telling the whole world about how bad Lindland stinks and that he is a smelly skiunk who needs to take a shower.
When I watched it for the 1st time, 1st thing I could think of was….. BURN!
Maybe its one of his tactics to put off the other fighter. Maybe he reached for the wrong thing and picked up moose piss rather than the soap
it is a old wrestling trick, but not a nice one.
Seriously? We dont get that much amatuer wrestling over here in sunny Scotland closest thing is catch the haggis lol.
yes don’t shower for a week or more and go wrestle not too many people will want to stay in that match with you for to long.
dear God man! Why would WANT to catch the haggis?
Ruan:
Where in Scotland are you from?
Livingston buddy, you stay in Scotland your self?
Autmation, you dont catch haggis unless its thrown at you lol. Its a wee saying to all the guys who dont know what haggis is. The best 1 is that a haggis has 1 leg shorter than the other so it can run round the hills lol.
Sorry Ruan, yes I’m in Edinburgh. So that’s you, me and Braveheart.
3 people from Scotland on here
. It’s good to kmow MMA is getting more recognised in Scotland
Awesome man glad to be proud of a wee group supporting scottish mma:D:D
I’ll come back in October 11th to fight Matt Lindland for the belt. It’ll be a great fight, we’ll see who is the best of the world there. I saw his fight with Negão and he’s a warrior … He comes be over you, but I don’t think he has the strength to stay over me. I’ll go to knock him out … My punches are well-aimed and when it hits he won’t stand.”
Vitor: The best in the World is Anderson Silva.. wrong organiztion..wrong opponent.. and if an independent panel wants to say you and Linland are the best at 185.. and that this is a title fight..?? Like Donald Trump on the Apprentice..I’ll say to this panel ” YOU’RE FIRED!!!!!!!”
lol! well said. nice “the donald” reference.
they have no depth
Affliction need to start a huge recruitment campaign.
It will get boring very quick if the same fighter fight at each event.
However, I’m stoked at the Fedor vs AA fight.
I like Vitor but, win or lose, Lindland will make the fight look boring. No disrespect to Lindland.
get boring?
Yes, get boring.
The first Affliction was definitely not boring
Automation, with the millions lost on there first show, I dont think they are gona recruit anybody anytime soon. So we are all stuck with watching the same guys getting mixed up. Show # 2 & if they get to # 3 will do even worse. First show always comes with curiousity but after that its just down hill. Just like EliteXC’s first CBS show, then look at there second.
Did you see the UFC 87 weigh in thread where everyone was talking about where they were from? Go check it out and add you 2 cents.
Yea, I just saw it. Kevin and his weird conversation! The one about favorite, overrated and overhyped was good.
LOL “wierd conversations”. I usually don’t respond to those, but I just thought it was interesting to see where all of these MMA nerds are from.
Same here, BNF. Curiousity got the best of me.
You don’t usually respond to weird conversations? but you’ll make up names like ‘I like little boys’?
lol
Automation, LMFAO!!! it was a good one you got to admit.
BNF, I guess the way you put it, it is interesting to see where we are from.
So I’ll let you guys know, Im from Houston Texas Im 29 and was hooked after the first UFC. I think we got the first 3 PPV’s but we were still into boxing when Julio Cesar Chavez was the man. I found this site googling MMA and have been here ever since.
I guess I am just wierd guy??? At least that is what my wife tells me everytime I get on here and talk to you knuckelheads.
The people on this site are so funny. They all bash Tito in the UFC, but as soon as there are rumblings of him going to fight in Affliction they get all happy like that is a big deal. Any business savy fighter, (Tito “I am a business man” Ortiz) would not sign a contract with this organization. It is pretty obvious to me they will fail eventually. Especially if they are just mixing a matching match-ups.
Can’t they get some XC guys or Strikeforce guys to mix things up? What about Bigfoot vs Tim to change things up a bit? If Affliction will cross promote why don’t we hear word 1 about anything like that. They have no 155’s or 170’s right. Couldn’t they have a Dream guy fight an XC guy under the Affliction name? Will someone please clarify????
Tito doesn’t care if they fail, as long as his check doesn’t bounce like Gary Shaws stomach after Thanksgiving!
BNF, those are good points! WAMMA is supposed to be for all Orgs. So why are they putting their belts in Affliction? What has Lindland or Belfort done to deserve that belt? WAMMA will probably bring down Affliction quicker than they would have brought themselves down.
good point about tito. same thing went for tim sylvia. he was the worst ever to some, until he signed with adreneline and signed to fight fedor. all of a sudden he was very credible. elite was supposed to be all about cross-promoting, but as soon as affliction formed a fight org. elite banned them just like the ufc. they all say the want to cross-promote, but what they really mean is that they want to cross-promote with the UFC! to try and make a name for themselves the easy way.
True.
Last I heard they are aware that they need more top talent and are already in the process of signing some new talent, while still negotiating with others.
Tito is a great first step. i hate the guy and I think he is a bum, but no one can sell a card like TIto. He will do wonders for Afflictions next pay per view #’s, and eventually I hope Nogueira (Rogerio) beats him up for the title.
The only way WAMMA will ever be respected is if Dana embraces the idea too. He won’t, which sucks. He should though IMO, another chance to show that his boys are the best by beating all these other “champs”.
Well, he’d have every belt locked up except HW.
i agree wamma needs the ufc to be involved to be taken serious but the ufc won’t sign on i think wamma should just award some the the ufc fighters the belt(the ones that are 1 one like bj or silva gsp maybe) but since they won’t i do beleave they are having fights that represent the best fighters outside of the ufc.
Why would the UFC want to be associated with something as lame as WAMMA? The name is lame, and the belt is lame. Why would the UFC want to give exposure to any other Org?
i never said they should, i like the idea but its not going to work with out everyone involved and the ufc does not need them.
What’s going on in MMA right now. Are we really going to turn into boxing faster then expected? It seemed to me at Afflictions first card before presenting and after presenting
Fedor with the HW WAMMA belt that they were emphasizing that the WAMMA title “truly” represented the champion of the world.
And that is was a “sportsmans” title and it didn’t have a brand.
I understand that when we speak about Fedor, because he really is the #1 HW world wide. –Way to discredit yourself by your own actions. Holy crap if this is a sign of things to come from affliction it’s not a good sign.
Will anyone argue with me that if the WAMMA belt is a reflection of the best talent in the world and not tied to a specific brand then why are they presenting it to Lindland and Belfort. If you want to build credibility just give it to the Spider because he is clearly the Fedor of the MW division.
I fucking hate when people make tons of claims with talk
and don’t follow up with any walk.
I like Lindland and Vitor.. no disrespect to either at all.
They are not the two best middleweights around and this already lessons my stock in the WAMMA initiative.
there goes the WAMMA belt again. lol. Lindland or Belfort? Best unbiased MWs in the world? if thats the case, why are they not #1 & #2 on the WAMMA rankings?
good info. lindland is #7 and vitor isnt even ranked or on “others recieveng votes” on wamma’s rankings.
o and they just happen to be in Affliction by coincidence. I bet lawler would drop the winner.
quick lets take everyone that won on our last card and have them fight………then lets take everyone that lost and have them fight……then rinse and repeat
and you forgot about injuries. their dead if some one gets hurt. gary goodridge cant fight everyone, right?