Carneiro, Davis, Swick, Hazelett, Dong Hyun Kim, Fioravanti, gono, anthony johnson …. i think any of these guys would win most of the time

I think he is top 10 and at such a young age thats an amazing accomplishment considering how good the welterweight division is.

cmon john be realistic. he wouldn’t be top 10 in ufc…never mind world. I’ll prove it too.
He has accomplished a lot and the sky is the limit!

Condit would be Top 10 in the UFC, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! Also, I would take Kos and Thiago off of the list that would definitely beat him. Heck, even Diego wouldn’t beeat him 10 out of 10 times.

Kos would have no idea what to do against him. Everytime Kos fights a striker, he takes them down and lays on them. Whenever he fights a BJJ guy, he stands and trades. Well, Carlos’s muay thai is waaaay nasty than Josh and his loopy overhand right, and Carlos has very slick BJJ which would scare Josh away from the takedown. He’d have no where to take the fight and Condit would make him pay for it!!!

Plus, The Natural Born Killer is a finisher, finishing 21 of his 22 victories.

NOW, its time for me to go read that article and/or audio.

wamma has him at seven, I disagree, here are 14:
Georges St. Pierre
Jon Fitch
Jake Shields
Thiago Alves
Josh Koscheck
Matt Hughes
Matt Serra
Karo Parisyan
Nick Thompson
Jay Hieron
Mike Swick
Marcus Davis
also BJ beats him, sherk beats him

you make great points Mike!!!! still think it’s too soon. I love him more for wanting the “big boys”

Hey VM Carlos Condit vs Dustin Hazelett ??? How does that sound ??

Kurt Angle (Trigg (who I hate could beat him!!)

Kevin you forgot Dustin Hazlett!!!

Dude, he beat Trigg two years ago.

Carlos is still young. There is no need to come over to the UFC when you are only 24 unless you are TRUELY ready to make a run for the title. Otherwise, you will come into the octagon unprepared, lose a couple of fights in a row and find yourself out of the UFC. Around the ages of 29 - 32 is typically the peak of a MMAist’s career. Carlos is 24, he has time.

Carlos’s management is being very smart. He WILL go to the UFC when he is completely ready. Jake Shields and Carlos Condit are both recognized as Top 10 WW’s for a reason.

Condit vs Hazelett would be CRAZY when the fight hit the ground, but I think that even Carlos would prefer to keep the fight standing, where he has a distinct advantage.

I think everyone is forgetting Condit’s strongest weapon… Meanmuggin…

But honestly I like watching his fights and think he does need tested, not by the top 5 WW’s but give him the gate keeper, let Karo have a throw at him.

There is no one else left for him to beat in WEC. Whats he gonna do, fight Larson and Prather every other match? Condit already beat Trigg. Besides, you will never know if he can beat the big boys if you keep him down in the minor leagues. The guy is top ten, no doubt. The bottom half of Kevin Dont Know Shit’s list starting with Serra (aside from Penn) are all guys Condit is capable beating now. Id even add Hughes and Kos to that list. I think they should put him against Karo ‘The Love Handles’ Parisyan, and after he gets him in a sick armbar everyone will know he belongs in the UFC.

Sorry, but he is top 10 in my book. Mike ur probably right about him waiting a couple of years before making the jump to the UFC.

Phil: Hazlett vs. Condit wouuld be CRAZY!!!

Jay Hieron are you serious dude? You are really digging for names aren’t you.

condit vs swick oOOoOoOOOooOOOOOooooo

OJR, John, ChefDaddy, Phil and ALL the others that read about Matt trying to take a swing at me in the Brock Lesnar Thread. I finally saw it about 15 mins ago and my reply just made it up. If you want to read some of that “ViolentMike Humor” that Matt is so obsessed with, GO CHECK IT OUT!!!

LOL, I promise, it won’t dissapoint!!!!!!!

Blog wars, how gay!

I don’t call people out. I only get called out - and then respond.

Matt: wont be showing his pimpled infested high school face around here anymore

VM, BURNED HIM TO DEATH!!!!

u ppl really oughta get girlfriends…
wot a bunch.

Please reference the Brock Lesnar thread like two before this one, or the Aleksander Emelianenko thread next…….

R u kidding me this guy would get smashed in the UFC come on he has no chance…..he need’s to go to the gym and lift cuz he’s skinny as FUCK!!!!

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You can include me in the list of people who post from work.

Sorry, I knew you did also, so many names lol

Maybe you can start the ball rolling OJR

Include me on the list of people who post from school!

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I work for the US Federal Govt’.

Any more and I would have to kill you.

No, seriously…

I think VM already posted in another thread that he was in Marketing…

Yeah, OJR and John.

I started this in the Lesnar thread, I’ll see you there

Id rank it more like fourth, being after Affliction and Elite XC, theres only a few guys in WEC who are really solid, Jens Pulver, Urijah Faber, Miguel Torres… am i missing anybody?

Paulo Filho (often ranked second in the middleweight division overall behind Anderson Silva), Brian Stann, Jamie Varner and a few others. Personally, I believe that they have a lot more depth than EliteXC and as of right now Affliction is a “one trick pony” - not a true organization since it basically only has one weight class.

Yeah but Affliction is all HW’s and WEC is all the lower weights so that doesn’t make sense how one could be more important than the other. As well the WEC has a bunch of fake champions all except for Jake Sheilds. So I think Jens, Urijah, Miguel, Din, Condit are all solid reasons why WEC is better than EXC

Id take Lawler, Frank Shamrock, Ninja Rua, and Nick Diaz over all those guys anyday of the week

“IMO, Fitch and St. Pierre are the ONLY two WW fighters that can beat Carlos 5 out of 5 times. He can easily pull of wins over any other guy.”

I didn’t say that he’d only beat them 1 time. Actually, last time I checked “wins” with an “s” at the end of it means that it is plural, meaning more than 1. It seems like English is your first language, so that is actually pretty sad.

I’m saying that he would not get dominated by them. They would be close fights, a coin toss if you will. He is on the SAME level as them and he will prove it once item time for him to be in the UFC. I think that he would beat Kos 4 out of 5 times. I see him and Diego splitting their fights 50/50.

Are you catching on to what PLURAL means?

Oh yeah, and double check your math, because you have one too many re-’s in there, you re-re-re-re-tard

a couple of knees from Condit, and they would be taking a nose dive!

Strikers don’t typically get knees to the face, thats wrestlers trying to do a take down. I just want to see him fight a solid striker, someone with KO power, like Davis or Johnson.

Strikers dont take knees to the face? Come on Arnold, the clinch game is a big part of mma, and Knees are 1 of the best weapons in the Tai clinch!

Arnold, Rich Franklin is a striker and Anderson just about put his knee all the way through him. I think Rich’s chest is permanently indented. Condit would beat a bunch of guys on these lists more often than not. I would bet he beats Swick 8 out of 10 times.

Ok so now you’ve compared Condits chicken arms to Silva’s clinch????

I’m a big underdog fan and I like how Condit finishes fights, but untill he fights a top 10 guy I’m not going to agree that he’ll win 80% of his fights with guys who fight every match at the top tier level.

He has also defended his title against Carlo Prater, for what its worth.

i think if torres could bulk up to 155 hed wreck house in the ufc lw division, kids scary good!

maybe he should bulk up to 145 lbs before talking about him bulking up to 155 lbs.

I was gonna say the same thing john, but I rode you hard the other day!

Dont worry about it Kev, I am a big boy! I am not the sensative type! you had a bad day, when I take a few Percs, I snap on everyone as well. I am the epitimy of a Gemeni. I have 2 personalities. Sometimes I am real cool and Mellow on this site (when I am high), other times I can be a D**k! I appologize in advance for the days when I will snap….WE all have bad days, life is stressful. WE are cool, no reason to appologize

I didnt get to repond to your question about Midterms, yeah I am swamped with work…I am taking a beating from these Freaking Professors! I am used to spending all my summers with my family in Italy…not used to being in school over the summer and it sucks. Its really hard to commit to school in the summer. I did great all year, but I am doing poorly this semester and I only have 5 weeks to turn it around!

I concur

Kev: u ever looking to take the lil lady to a carribean Vacation let me no….I will hook you up with a place to stay. THe Island is Domenica.

http://www.belebu.com

how much for a week john? she wants to go to hawaii, but this would definitely do!!

Very close to the Island: Martinique (club med) and Antigua (also a beautiful island)

If you do, hold on tight cuz those hips are deadly. and watch out, she steals the covers.

if I do, I’ll set a record…eat it for 2 hours and last only 2 seconds…lol

LOL chef, I’d set a record with that peice. one pump and 2 seconds and a 30 dollar cigar it is.
anyone else like good cigars?

JUST LIKE SERRA WOULD NEVER BEAT GSP. COME ON EVER HEARD OF A PUNCHERS CHANCE

Hey, like Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Agreed! this will probably be GSP’s toughest fight because I see it going in the later rounds, something GSP has never done….Neither has Fitch so it hould be interesting.

I think this will be GSP’s toughest fight EVER, until he fights Penn again!

Agreed w/ both points.

GSP trains with olympians, you really think the later rounds are going to affect him?

did james irvin earn it? lol

no, but at least he prepared for the beating before hand. Making sure he woudn’t feel the pain.
Direct quote post fight “I didn’t know what hit me” more like he didn’t know if he got hit or nodded off!

LOLOL

He did look like he was getting the “dope-itch” while he was turlted up lying on the floor.

he was scratching his nose!

“tonydrip” sounds like a venerial disease.
I agree, silva could win the LHW belt, not only against forrest, but any other top LHW!

You were joking about the Forrest thing right? Because after watching how fast Silva was at 205 I don’t think anyone could stop him. Rampage looked like crap and almost KO’d Forrest a couple of times, I don’t see anyone getting the best of Silva for the next year maybe two.

Haahaa, Kev - Yeah, I’m opening myself to torture with that name, but it’s an inside joke and too good to pass up!

Arnold - I agree that Silva looks unstoppable, but I don’t think I’ll ever count Forrest out of any fight. He just keeps coming……Silva’s power is off the charts, but so is Rampage’s…and he didn’t KO Forrest?

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