Props: SI.com
Quoteworthy:
“Mentally he wasn’t there. It was almost as if he was possessed. He heard voices. He thought he was a God…. He went very easy [with police]…. He would still make comments that were slightly weird [when he returned]…. You could tell that he wasn’t all the way there, but each day you could tell he was better.”
Josh Gross culls together comments from various anonymous “inside” sources regarding the condition of former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson after he was released from police custody following an arrest for hit and run and other charges. He was picked up by police the following day because of his bizarre behavior, which was detailed above in the quote mash. He has since appeared in public in small doses, which apparently goes against his lawyer’s advice. The good news is that the report indicates he intends to get back in the Octagon as soon as November … perhaps against Wanderlei Silva. Let’s just hope that’s not too much too soon.
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Isn’t that a bit much and a bit soon for a man who clearly needs help?
I am sure they wont be able to sign the fight if hes not cleared mentally. I am also guessing this is a best case scenario. Hopefully Rampage is fine and we get to see this great fight.
He should fight the iceman just so he can get his confindence sky high again! Im in OC and we just got a good size quake right now. hope he doesnt think GOD is coming to get him…
Just read an interview where Vera says he’s not going to try to drop to much weight in the future. He’s not going to get heavier than 225lbs.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/article1484662.ece
BLAH, how bad was that earth quake??? I just heard on the radio that it was in LA and Vegas felt it. 5.8 on the richter scale!
Ray, if someone asks you if you’re a god you say YES!
it was a rolling one pretty strong but lasted only 1 minute
VM, the earthquake wasn’t very bad at all. Felt like it only lasted about 20 seconds. I was in the 1989 quake in San Francisco, so I have a good frame of reference.
silly Rampage, we all know Fedor is the God of MMA! Just kidding, hard to joke on a man when he’s down and it’s not his fault. all the best are wished to him and his family.
Poor Wanderlei if they do fight! Rampage is going to want to bite his ear off!
No way will he be able to fight Wandy in November, even if he somehow passes some form of mental test to be cleared for a fight. How can you go from losing your title, getting arrested, and having a complete mental breakdown, to getting your head right, set up a proper training camp for a fight, and fight someone who has handed you the 2 worst beatings of your career in just about 4 1/2 months?
i’ve heard rumors…any idea if it’s true he had a falling out with juanito? I hear rampage is a sensitive guy ans juanito was feeding him lines like “if you lose to forrest, you’re a p#ssy”. pretty sad, we may never see him fight again! legal and mental battles are bigger than fighting!
ive heard those same rumors as well. i think if wandi and page fight in nov. wandi’s gonna smash so many knees to rampages head that he’s gonna think he’s santa claus next.
lol
If you guys go and actually read th SI article, it states that Juanito has already been fired and he is currently seeking a new trainer/manager. Good read, you guys should check it out. Juanito, doesn’t seem to be the “best thing to happen to Rampage’s career” as some may have thought!
BNF, Thats what that little midget gets for being a dumba$$. After everything he said and all the protesting the decision, karma is a b*tch.
JV, I never liked Juanito to begin with and now we get to see his true colors. Isn’t he a boxing trainer anyways… See ya. There is no way any other fighter will all of the sudden try to hire this guy so I don’t think we will be hearing from him anytime soon.
Juanito should stick to his word and retire.
This was my initaial thought, after about 2 days, since Juanito hasn’t made a single statement regarding the issue. We haven’t even heard a “no comment” from him.
Would it kill you guys to read the entire article as opposed to small snippets? Rampage has released Jaunito as his manager/trainer.
juanito was on mmalive #9 on espn.com and he stated that he didnt say that he was gonna retire from fighting if forrest won, he said that he meant that he was gonna retire from being an off-shoreman or longshoreman or some job he had like 20 years ago if rampage lost. then he went on to say that forrest gave him his word for a rematch and that dana did as well (not true). he tried to go on how they “needed to keep their word” and all that , when he wasnt about to keep his own word. i drank the juanito kool-aid for awhile after page beat chuck and and hendo, but this guy has turned out to be a real manipulator and somewhat of a shyster imo.
Juanito was stealing money from him. It will come out soon I guess.
Which is prolly why you havent heard from Juanito , im sure there is a lawsuit coming.
If that’s true, then Rampage’s next match should be …………..v/s Juanito! If you can’t beat the guy’s @ss, you should keep your mouth shut.
This article is a must read. Had no idea he fasted for 3 days drinking only water while training, that destroys the body. Hope he’s able come back to the sport in some way.
That was for the Wanderlei fight in 2004. I heard he fasted again, only drinking water and energy drinks for 4 days. But I think it was immediatly AFTER the Forrest fight. It would make more sense if it was before hand seeing that he had a belly the size of Chuck’s to get rid of before the fight…
You guys sure about this? If so, then wow[ala Joe rogan]!! 4 days with just energy drinks?! That’s suicide!
If he fights Wanderlei in November, only two things can happen:
1. Wanderlei puts Rampage in a coma
2. Wanderlei beats the ‘tard out of Rampage
Don’t sleep on Page.. He can beat Wandy.. This is not like if Page fought Chuck for a 3rd time.. Page and Wany..especailly there 2nd match.. was way more competitive.. and their 1st match..Page fought Chuck earlier in the day.. for your consideration.. I still think Page/forrest was a hich up on Page’s behalf.. and if he is out his mind.. the better.. the more un predicatble he’ll be.. He just needs to train.. train hard.. we all know Wandy is out of his mind in his training program.. this will not be a one sided..fight ..nah.. this will be a war.
Well it has the chance to be a war. I thought Chuck/Rampage would be a war but 1 punch later it was over. Same thing can happen here but a war is probably more likely. Have to hope for that any way.
both of there fights where tough and wandy came out on top, but they wheren’t blow outs, he’s got a good chance at beating wandy i just hope he is alright winning or losing a fight is not the most important thing.
or rampage can do some crazy fasting nonsense before the fight again and ruin his chances. I’d like to see rampage fight silva when he’s firing on all cylinders.
Hell I’d like to have seen him fighting Forrest firing on all cylinders..
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully Wandi destroys Page and then Page goes to live in the pumkin patch So Charlie Brown can find him.
I’ve heard we are all created in the likeness of God.. but he thought he was GOD??.. I don’t know..
Woah.. Did I read that correctly.. Are my eyes ..bugging.. I jsut thoughtthis thread was the same shit of Page since his arrest.. but He intends to fight WandY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh man.. now that fight I will NOT miss.. WAR WANDY!!! WAR PAGE!!! WAR!!! WAR!!! Woah guys.. I can’t wait for this to be official. Wandi/Page 3.. War of the Worlds!! type shit wit hthis fight.. NO judges will be needed for this one.. I did thin lthe same for the Forrest..fight..but I still think NO jusdges will be needed for this.. Now I’m excited.
Going to read the article now. Does it mention his falling out with Juanito as well? I wonder what their current status is?
RAMPAGE VS WANDERLEI 3
WOW. Rampage, I wanted you to get better all along, but now you MUST.
I know that a lot of us, prior to the Griffin fight and the monster truck incident, and the Wanderlei/Jardine fight, were all saying that Rampage would beat Silva now in another rematch. However, considering everything, if they were to figth in November, I would have my money on the Axe Murderer!!!!!
VM that would be a safe bet.. but PAge is a wild card right now.. Wany would be the favorite in betting odds..me not being much of a gambler.. would think the $$ ..more $$ would be won if the bet was Page.. if the odds are more for Wandy then it being about even.. IMO ..Page is a good wild card. He can rebound from this.. and turn things around as fast as went from top to bottom.
I think we have already seen the pinnacle of Rampage’s career. Rampage does not like to train. I feal bad for his whomever his next trainer is because they are going to have a DIFFICULT time.
I hate the idea of Rampage returning too quickly. He could all too quickly spiral into a Tyson-like figure, making bad decision on top of bad decision.
As much as I want him to fight Wandy again, I’d rather see it in 9-12 months. Wandy killing (again) a down-and-out Rampage won’t make anyone happy.
As long as he doesn’t rape nobody.. and don’t to jail in his prime… and become muslim.. and wants to start eating othe fighter’s kids.. with his cheerios.. he’ll be aight.
LOL Phil
Don’t forget tattooing his face.
thinking you’re god+driving on sidewalks=not fighting in nov.
simple math
he has way too much going on and could get hurt!
thats a very reasonable equation. we don’t want to see situations get worse.
are those his real teeth or one of those funny mouthgaurds??
Looks like a funny mouth guard. I think AA had a similar one with fangs.
is he really fighting wand or is this just speculation? by the way i wouldn’t give him wand in his first fight back
I hope Rampage makes a full recovery and is fighting when he is 100% ready body & mind. Not an easy fight to prepare for as your return match against a fighter who has just destroyed his last opponent.
Me too UKmmaBOY.
The SI article touched on Rampage’s true problem. His father abondoned him at 10 yrs old.
Rampage needs to sort that out before he will ever be 100%.
The scary thing is that since he was 10 yrs old, he has never been 100%. Once he cracks that, Rampage will dominate his division like no other
Automation I believe that a man can overcome anything he sets his mind to. Rampage is a grown man and if hes hanging on to something from 10yrs old, then hes just a weak minded person. Thats not an excuse for him to do what he did.
i know this is slightly off topic but why is the ufc keeping wandy on ice for 5-6 months at a time between fights? he’s not getting any younger. is this how wandy wants it or is this dana white and joe silva’s doing?
in pride he fought to often it might have wore him down
He did turn down the fight with Vera at UFN 14. Hell- he’s making 150k per fight, what’s the rush?
deuce 4, Thats what Wanderlei wanted. I think he didnt want to fight till december.
Well seeing how they wanted him on the last ufn but he said he wanted to wait for the nye show i would say its how he wants to do things.
I’ve been waiting to hear who Wandy was going to fight next. As much as this would be a good fight, I’d much rather see Wandy vs. Chuck II. There are a lot of match ups that would be great to see Wandy in, I just hope that he doesn’t wait until New Year’s but I doubt he’ll fight on New Year’s if he fights in the next couple of months.
how about he just stay at home and get his sh*t together?! is it the fact that this was done in the name of religion that makes it ok? or the fact that he gets the celebrity status pass? i don’t get it.
he fire juanito ibarra so he need a new training camp
That was a mistake, did he really?
He needs to take time for himself to get better, rushing into the octagon against Silva is a mistake. The UFC can make money with this fight and the fans want to see it so it probably will happen. I hope Juanito stays retired and away from Rampage. He needs to find a good camp to train with.
WTF He should be booted from the UFC what a bum!
I did a interview a week ago with Stephen Quadros and he was very vocal about Rampage’s recovery and talked hinted at the people who call themselves his “Friends” as well. I think he was upset about how people have clung onto him now that he is succesful.
You are good friends with Quinton Rampage Jackson and we all know he is dealing with some problems in his personal life. Have you gotten the chance to talk to him at all?
I spoke with his wife the day after all the drama with the arrest and the chase, but I haven’t had a chance to speak with him directly…yet. This whole thing makes me very sad. Quinton knows that I am here for him and unlike so many of his “new friends”, I don’t have an agenda. He’s a great guy and a dear friend. I want more than anything for him to be happy. I really look forward to talking to him.
I hope he does not fight Wandy if hes not in his right state of mind…..he will probably kill himself after he losses for a third time. Its best that they put him against Chuck or Machida someone who he should be very confident in fighting and can help him get to a right state of mind.
he was probably pulling one of his pranks..which wasn’t funny this time
There is no chance this fight will happen if there is any doubts!!!! Id be suprised if this was rampages next fight anyway? doesnt seem like good timing to have a legendary match up?!
Next major match ups!
Liddell v Griffin (New year if liddell wins)
Rampage v Jardine
Wandi v Anderson silva
Shogun v machida (dependant on fight with thiago)
or it could go
Wandi v rampage 3
Shogun v Anderson silva
I still think if liddell beats rashad he gets deserved title shot!
Jardine is already fighting Vera, Anderson is already fighting Cote at 185, and Machida doesn’t fight Thiago for 3 more months (same night as Vera/Jardine)… How long do you want to wait?
even gods dont resist arrest
were talking november at the earliest!!!!!!
sure are alot of lame jokes at behalf of rampage. i would love to see him against wandy again but seems kinda soon i guess only time will tell.
rampage will comeback as soon as rampage is hungry again
Rampage was crazy to begin with. A fighter howling like a wolf before a fight clearly is a little crazy right off the bat…Nonetheless, he’s one of my favorite fighters so I’m sure he’ll get back on track pretty soon. perhaps 2009?
No fu>>>>ing way he will be able to fght any time soon any one remember,he does have charges being pressed and hopefully it wont be a site of probation or bail no violent behavior
I don’t think Rampage will be the same again, I would like to know what Rampage was diagnosed with if at all?
My guess is that he wants to fight again soon.
As soon as one get’s back to training and focusing on a new opponent the sooner one gets his mind off the last defeat.
I guess, i understand or can imagine what he’s going trough…
He was on top of the world, everything was going his way, noone could beat him, nobody gave Forrest a big chance to be crowned king of the world, even his training / coaching team wasn’t telling him to be carefull and that he could lose eventually.
And BAM all of the sudden you’re no champion anymore…all your world crumbles atop of you and you’ll fall in a deep hole from which you have to pull yourself out, friends could help but one has to do it by himself…
Im not sure thats good news…….Rampage needs to get healthy and a long stay at a treatment facility should be priority one instead of fighting as early as november
I would imagine after all the fame that came with being the ufc champ you would feel like a god, and after such a close fight that was a knock down or take down away from page still claiming the title: the feeling of confusion would be acceptable. Plus with rampages once spiritually trainer turning on him things start to take a toll. As for Wandy, jackson will tko him next time they fight insane or sane.
I think he will be cleared to fight, He was fasting, not sleeping and recvently fell off the top of the world. When the brain is not fed properly, it doesnt function properly and he couldn’t deal with it. Let’s face you go threw sleep depravation you’ll start tripping, add food depravation and “aboom” you’re fear and lothing in Las Vegas.
Fasting is a way to shed inpurities, I think that’s what Quinton was aiming for; profesionaly, physicly and spiritualy.
I am sure they had him shot up with nutrients and made him eat.
I think he’ll be able to fit in a three months training camp.
He should just get his mind right & forget about fighting.
Get healthy and maybe come back in a year or two. He is only 30 and would still have time for a “2nd” MMA career.