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he seems a little bummed out…
sounds like somebody needs a hug
Hug, LMAO! Brock is going to rip some limbs off now that hes training JJ skills.
Hearing has lost in the past due to an asthma attack. Brock is without a doubt the superior wrestler, if he can push the pace and grind him out, Brock can win.
Also, I have seen Hearing quit after tasting some big guys power. fedor and Cro Cop both hit him hard and made him quit.
If Brock gets off a clean shot, he will hit has hard as anyone. MOst important thing that Brock needs to do to win this fight is avoid standing with Hearing, take him down, but the most important thing is that once it goes to the ground brock has to CONTROL heath. Heath is very tricky on the ground. He is constantly rolling out of positions and then winning scrambles. Brock has to control him while he is rolling, or Brock could end up caught in a bad position and get submitted again!
Or Heath will just knee the living shit out of his ribs from side control.
Possibly, but I find it hard to believe that anyone will get Brock in side control. More likely Heath will look to catch a hold of something when he rolls out of position to create a scramble.
Heath needs to extend this fight and test Lesnar’s cardio. Make Lesnar’s weight work against him by gassing him. He can then pick him apart.
Lesnar needs to end this quickly and watch for Heath’s scrambling (agree w/ john).
Probably right, Brock is just a big strong dude, getting a good top position would be one thing but keeping it is probably a totally different story.
John, why do you always spell Herring’s name ‘Hearing’?
John, I’m going to have to disagree with you. Wrestlers are too good at scrambling. Heath won’t be able to roll someone with a good wrestler’s base like Lesner. If this fight goesto the ground it’s over.
why does everyone thinks Lesnar hits hard? i still havent seen him box. HAMMA-fisting doesnt count, with hands like his all he needs is gravity there.
He’s far and away the strongest fighter in UFC, and his fists are the size of bricks. That has to hurt.
droped Mir to ther canvas with 1 punch, shows some klind of power. His power will also increase as his technique gets better.
Yeah I always muspell Herring’s name.
hulk hogan blew him off for their lunch date
Read this! Its a good read: Rumble JOhnson talking about Mazzaggatti and Kevin Burns:
“My retina was damaged, possibly detached, and the laceration was pretty long. It was basically from one end of my eye to the other. They did laser surgery that took about two hours, put some stitches on it basically. The doctor said I should be back in the September. So, hopefully you’ll get to see me do my thing in September or October…
I have nothing against Kevin; but personally I don’t want him to fight again until he gets his hands fixed. I don’t want any other fighter to go through what I went through. I don’t think it’s cool that he fought with his hands like that. It put himself and others that he’s competing with in danger. Just look at me. I can accept a loss, but I can’t accept a loss or the consequence of someone else’s wrong doing in a fight like that.”
If Burns admitted he cant punch with his hands closed then I dont see anybody wanting to fight him. And why would the UFC keep him around if he cant get that fixed?
jv: I agree! its really not fair to Burns’s opponents. u r right, NO one is going to want to fight him. I doubt any fighter wants to risk loosing their vision to fight a C-level fighter like Kevin Burns!
Sorry, Burns cause I like you, this is just real talk!
I agree with JV..After like 3 eyes pokes during that match.. to then..win via “EyePoke/TKO”..and to top it off..he reveals to the MMA world.. ” I can’t throw a closed fist jab.. I have to keep my hand open.. I’ve broken it.. 3X in 16months.. woah.. Burns.. Your a tuf cat.. game fighter..much props for tapping out a BJJ phenom( You should of gotten a Purple belt for that..IMO )..but it’s unrealistic to think if he fights again..that the same thing..will not happen again. It’s one thing what Nick Diaz does inhis boxing style with keeping his hands open.. more to measure up his shot.. but when he strikes..it’s with a closed fist. I really do not want to see another Burns/Johnson incident.. so I hope the UFC can straighten this thing out..like Burn’s hand.
I thought Johnson was gona go crazy after that bullsh*t decision! He really took it well considering the damage it could have caused.
He definetly took it better than I would have!
Oh yeah, I fogot to mention that ElitexC has signed John Alessio, not a bad pick up for them.
Alessio vs. Alvarez at welterweight would be an interesting fight. Or alessio vs. Semtex would be awesome as well
Yep.. I would of been tight. real tight.. Like ” get the F’ away from me.. tight..”
you guys are a bunch of puss*ies and so is johnson, afraid of a finger poke? yea real tough guy he is… id be much more afraid of shogun’s head stomps, eye poke? give me a break
I’m not going to go down to your level on this.. but the only thing else I have to add.. in the first UFC’s 1 through whenever a the added the rules and weight classes.. when there were no RULES.. No head butting. No eye poking, No groin shots. Those were the only rules.
I would be bit more afraid of getting a Shogun head stomp..if I could’t see! Eye pokes..got no business in MMA.. if this was a bar fight..so be it.
true… im never really too serious about anything, so dont be insulted at my comments… ever. lol anyways i still think johnson is being a wuss, shouldnt he want to go back in there and demolish burns for that illegal strike?
You call us puss*es and you dont want us to be insulted? If we were on the yard, do you know what would happen to you? Im gona have to bash your a$$ till I feel better.
I don’t think Johnson was being a “wuss” at all.. by far. He fought real hard..was to some degree egding out a win if the fight would of went to the judges..till the 3rd eye poke F’d every thing up.. then he gets shafted by the ref..losing via eye poke/TKO??
As the crowd was booing.. he got on the mic and said for the fans to chill and give Burns his cred for fighting hard.. and things like “this’ happen.. Well sometime after this..he gets to sit down and watch the fight like we did.. And he sees/hears what Burn’s post fight comments about.. how he can’t do nothing about it.. cuz he broke his hand 3X in the last 16months ..he can only throw open handed jabs… .which means..all of his fights are at a high risk of seeing the same thing go down. MMA fighters work too damn hard with their training camps.. cutting weight etc.. to get shafted like that. The NSAC shouldn’t of even allowed him to fight under these circumstances..for the exact reason for how Johnson/Burns fight went down.. our sport and our fighter’s need to be protected.
i think he just needs to learn how to palm strike. then he will ok, atm he just throws a retarded half palm, full fingers jab o’ death
All I know is that IO wouldnt want to fight him again either.
He has nothiong to prove because he was clearly outclassing burns as the fight progressed. He was about 1 minute away from a Unanimous decision win. WShy risk fighting a guy that can potentially blind you illegally? U heard what Burns said about his hand and how he throws his punches so why would u fight him again.
No point!
Brock better hit him with a chair.
He sounds a lot more humble, for obvious reasons… A few more interviews like this, a win, and maybe he’ll actually get some fans…
He already has fans! The good thing about Brock is that he knows that he’s still a little green when it comes to MMA and he knows it! That’s why he does all this training to improve his game. He’s not relying on talent and freakish strength alone[unlike Karo and friends]. He’s relying on training so he cpuld go further for that elusive title shot!
I think a solid year from now and he could very well be a threat for the top. Time will tell, and we will know better after his next fight.
TheNegation, You are right..”He already has fans”..Damn straight!!..He had more fans then most Top MMa fighters before he ever fought in the UFC…
As far as MMa fans?? He has those aswell. For I am a fan of brock. I will admit, I did not like the idea of having a former WWE star coming over to MMa at first. But after his 1st fight and the countless interviews I have seen with him,- he has grown on me..
I think he is a beast, and with a good camp, he will be a force in the UFC HW division soon enough..He shows respect for the sport, and he has a great mind-set to compete..I really like his personality and the way he “keeps it real”…And also, choosing to fight only top fighters while he is still a rookie shows me he feels ready to make an impact..(confidence)
He knows he could have turned left on easy-street after his loss to Mir, but no’….He has stepped up to face another big HW with great JJ..Heath is like a better version of Frank Mir..Herring’s Texas JJ is better then Mir’s JJ, and Heath can stand and bang too…..
I actually think this is a worse match up for Brock, Heath might not be as good on the ground as Mir with subs, but he’s a more well rounded fighter overall IMO. And he’s said in interviews (and I agree) that Brock isn’t going to put him in a position or do anything to him that he hasn’t experienced/seen before. Besides the size and the strength of Brock, which is actually a lot to contend with, he really doesn’t have an advantage here.
I think the Coleman match up would have been better for Brock, maybe not as exciting for the fans, but after notching a win and having more time to train I think his level of confidence just getting that 1st win would contribute to us seeing an even better Lesnar. Who knows what adjustments he’ll make in response to that last loss if any, I would think we might see a more cautious/tentative Brock this time around and that might just give Herring the edge.
hes never had a 300lb muscle on top of him pounding his face in, or a legit collegiate wrestler shoot a double leg on him, and there isn’t a fighter in the world as strong as brock.. i don’t see heath reversing him with all those wizzers like he did to kongo since brock is the best wrestler in the ufc.. he’ll be the heavyweight gsp in the next year people saying velasquez will be the next big thing is stupid, brock would murder him hardcore
Velasquez looks real promising, i’m not counting that guy out, he showed some great technique in that last fight, made that shit look EASY.
People have to give their props to Lesnar. HE has not been fed cans. Your first two fight in the UFC against mir and Heath. Thats says alot about him as a fighter. If he goes 0-2 in the ufc well thats a hellava resume for your first two fight and I am not a huge fan of Brock but give the man the respect, he could have not took the hard fights like another hyped heavyweight. I don’t think I need to say his name .
cain velasquez
Fuck yes. Velasquez = FUTURE CHAMP
I like Cain alot, but he will never be champion as long as Nogueira is around!
i cant believe i started a velazquez nuthugging train when i meant to say hes overrated, overhyped… “another hyped heavyweight. I don’t think I need to say his name ” thats what i was replying to!!!!!!!!! shame on me
Velasquez = FUTURE CHAMP
Velasquez = Mexican racist
LanceLegweak, Is that all your going to talk about?
I agree JV. The guy has a Brown Pride tatoo. So what? Who cares? Goody for him. If people don’t like it, don’t watch him fight. And don’t continually make an issue of it. Jesus, has everyone gone “sensitive” recently? This is a COMBAT sport we usually discuss.
Lancelegweak is a troll. He only posts when he wants to incite something.
i agree with that guy though, if someone had white pride they’d be racist… and you would all call him out on it everytime his name came up
I totaly agree Brock, could be the next Heavyweight Champ. He moves like a cat for a guy his size, if he could hook up with a great BJJ, Muaythai and/or boxing camp….where is he training?
Minnesota Martial Arts Academy. It is a legitimate camp.
thanks
and he brought in Rodrigo “Comprido” Medeiros to train his Jiu Jitsu. hes a 7 time World BJJ champ. but anyone know of and stand up training??
Yea I’m curious on that one too, I think he should really work on some boxing/ muay thai, who’s gonna shoot on Lesnar and take him down? Nobody.. and if he lands a clean shot it’s nap time. He should definatley try to make the transition into a striker as his carreer progress’s.
come on….. just put heath in the “sleeper hold” and you’ll win.. if heath gets out of that hold, then you go for “figure-four leg lock.” no doubt, heath will be screamin’ his head off. hahahaha.
I don’t personally dislike the guy (except for that god awful penis tattoo on his chest) but he can’t be serious. Champion? Come on. Nogueira should do a charity auction and whoever pays the most gets to choose exactly which submission Lesnar will fall victim to.
Yeah he is not ready for Big Nog yet for sure. This guy is one hell of an athlete and a monstrosity of a human being as well. If he trains his jiu jitsu enough to stay out of some of the stuff, he will maul most jiu jitsu guys. Mir’s face gave a glimpse of that in the 30 seconds of their fight.
Can’t wait, I see a penis on Lesnars chest??? Maybe you need to come out the closet. I see a sword.
i like brock he is an ox and i think he will win his next fight and be a top contender for the belt but the ufc should deffinantly sign fedor cuz he is the best in the world and after a few months they could get a card with brock fighting fedor and it will get the ufc more money than they ever dreamed and blow affliction off the map
I can’t get over Herring’s loss to Jake O’Brien. I don’t think Jake has won a fight since then. Herring had zilch for takedown defense. If he hasn’t changed that up 180 degrees this will be a long night for Heath.
correction short night
At least Brock will finish him not turn the fight into 15 minutes of soft porn.
brock will win he is an ox and the ufc should sign fedor and let them fight in a couple of months that will be the best heavyweight fight in the history of he ufc
His not ready for the submission game a guy like Fedor has. He got tapped by Mir on a very basic kneebar/ankle lock…hard to tell exactly what it was. Fedor would take some punches and armbar the hell out of him. Brock needs some wins against quality guys and slowly climb up the ladder. No Kimbo circus BS just steady improvements and he could one day hold the belt, not in a couple years at least though.
Actually it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Fedor KO’d Brock Tim Sylvia/Gary Goodridge style… Quick and painful.
I’d like to see Brock vs Shane carwin! now that would be a battle of brute strength!!
those are definitely some big boys
Brock seems like the kind of guy I would absolutely despise, but for some reason I kind of like the guy and although ive been a fan of heath for too long to root for Brock, I expect lesnar to take this one and dont imagine ill be too disappointed when he does.
I have to think back to the All Access show on Brock and think he seems like a good guy. Yeah, he seems like a tremendous prick at times in interviews because of his confidence in his athleticism, but seeing the monster climb out of that tiny little Chevette-looking car tells me he has a decent amount of humility.
Lol, I feel the same way, I like Brock but I been a Heath fan for a while now. I won’t be too disappointed if Brock wins but I’ll be rooting for Heath during the fight.
It’s hasn’t been talked about much but the WWE wrestler Bobby Lashley joined AKA a couple of months ago..but was kicked out!! Word is the guy can’t throw a punch through cardboard and now he’s found it EXTREMELY difficult to be picked up by another team :/
yea i heard he was signed with the AFL but and whenever he actually showed up to AKA he was jerk to everyone and acted like he was too good to try hard
After one K-1 pro bout against a can, Brock’s second pro MMA fight is against a former UFC Champion BJJ Black Belt, and his third pro MMA fight is against a PRIDE FC veteran.
Does anyone see the disconnect here?
I got to give it to Brock Lesnar. I don’t know if this is a good thing though. Look at most guys that finally reach the UFC. Most have double digit fights under their belts with experience in different organizations. Brock should be fighting in the IFL or other smaller circuit leauges to build his skill set.
Brock has so much upside potential its scary. But if he loses to Herring, then what? I know Brock sells PPVs and gets the average WWE fan interested in MMA…but at what cost?
Brock has gotta win it to stay in it.
He likes winners too…
Heath Herring by debilitating leg kicks.
Do you really see heath winning by leg kicks? The number one thing that you DONT do to a GREAT wrestler is pick up your foot for a leg kick…that equals EASY take down. If Heath tries to sit on the outside and throw leg kicks, he will be put right on to his back. You obviously didnt see Lesnars last fight…the guy is just as fast as some 170lbs fighters.
That is the most common sense I have read on here yet. That is the only way Herring will win this fight. I love how people talk about the Mirr fight as if it was an easy victory for Mirr. Frankly I think the UFC helped Mirr win as he is all the sudden one of the new coaches for The Ultimate Fighter. Dont tell me that wasnt already in the works. I think they signed him on to beat Lesnar easy and all the sudden frank gets knocked on his ass by a Lesnar punch( for those who doubt lesnars punching) and then takes 20 – 30 seconds of unanswered blows that would of ordinarily ended any fight by referee stopage. The ref then stands them up deducting a point from Lesnar without warning for a back of the head shot that Mirr turned into. Meanwhile this fight should of already been over as Lesnar DOMINATED Mirr until the ref stood them up and took the point.
Herring will not be able to stop Lesnars takedowns and that is were it will go quick. Lesnar will gnp out Herring in no later than the 2nd round.
The thing is, he’s not a freak in terms of proportion, he’s actually in great shape for someone his size- and he has to cut weight to get to 265!
That means on the night he’ll have 40 pounds on many of his competitors (including Fedor). That’s more than the difference between GSP and Rampage! He SHOULD be able to smash and out wrestle all those 230 pound heavyweights
I agree. I think he will only have problems with legit BJJ blackbelts ala Mir!
Lesnar has just got to keep pushin’ the pace to win this one. His gameplan should be to overwhelm Herring and rely on his size to outmatch Herring. Herring is used to fighting less stronger fighters[though more technical]than Brock.
Lesnar should impose his will right from the start of the 1st and let Herring feel “Crazy” by never knowin’ what hit him. Lesnar of course should be careful of those strikes from Heath ‘coz he IMO is the more advanced striker and could have a chance right there to test Brock’s chin.
In any case, Lesnar via freakish upset! Any method would work! Be it smashing Heath’s face, tearing his limbs apart, or just doin’ a full nelson on Heath till his limbs break off!!
If Lesnar get Herring in the same position as he had Mir in(top position) its GAME OVER. Herring is not going to take too many size XXXL fists to the face and be able to submit him like Mir did. Its just not going to happen. I say Lesner KO in under 2 min.
I honestly see Lesnar leading with a double jab or a quick combo and going for the takedown. He is MUCH stronger and also quicker so his strikes from the mount will be too much for Heath. The only chance the Heath has is to get back to his feet and hope to land a shot before it goes back to the ground. If Lesnar can keep Heath on his back for longer than 90 seconds, this fight will be over. We all saw what Lesnar did in 30 seconds to the former champ. If he didnt get caught that fight was over in another 30 to 60 seconds.
Brock Lesnar=Bob Sapp
Except Bob Sapp sucks at mma, where as Brock has the tools/ability to succeed.
No, Brock is already far better. Sapp is a joke. I actually can’t believe he once beat Ernesto Hoost.
Brock is way faster, more agile and more explosive than Sapp who was just big, strong and slow…And a bit of a joke.
Lesnar is for real. 2-3 years time and Brock will be unreal.
Please!!!! Lesnar would DOMINATE Sapp.
You said it Brock people like winners, so if you go 0-2 people no likey anymore, Thats it Dana pay this guy 250,000 to lose, put him in against top notch guys, experience be damned, MMA geeks keep saying “well hes not fighting cans” wait……there are cans in the UFC?
MMA could learn alot from boxing on how to build a guy slowly, its not about every fight being a superfight, who were DeLA Hoyas first 15 fights against? How about Mayweather’s first 9 opponents? How about Ali’s early fights? ITs not about guys being cans its about letting guys get experience.
Brock seems like a 17 year old trying to explain to the bartender why he doesn’t have his ID. A lot of rambling and ‘teh same.’
bookmakers give brock a lot of respect, it is hard to make money off of him, he was even the favourite against mir.
more of a name in the real world then a frank mir=more people bet=favorite in the betting…
“You wanna know what I think of Frank ‘Mer’, and his JJ?……uh……..uh…….nothing!!”
-Lesnar
HAHAHA. He is the dumbest pro athlete I’ve ever seen or heard, hahaha!!!
This is really a pickle for the UFC if Herring wins….. They have put so much hype into Lesnar, and after two straight losses, they won’t really be able to sell him anymore. Then Lesnar goes straight to Affliction for just as much, if not more money and uses all of that UFC push to further a rival company.
i think in a perfect world they should set up brock vs. kimbo. both are relatively new to the sport and have something to prove, kimbo would probably get hurt bad IMO
lol, yea probably a real quick fight, I think the staredown would show Brock once again making another HW look small and Kimbo’s complete lack of a ground game would get his ass handed to him in rd 1.
We’ve seen Herring taken down before(Fedor, Noguiera, and even Kongo), so Lesnar taking him down is an almost certainty. The only question of course is can he avoid a sub and can he avoid being swept.
Heath Herring doesn’t have much of a chance. Jake O’Brien dry humped him for a win. Unfortunately for him, Brock Lesnar will be doing a lot more than dry humping.