“Fighting back at home again, for the second time, is gonna be great. My next opponent, I’m not sure who I’m fighting yet, but I”m looking forward to a hard fight. And this fight I want a KO.”
– Elite XC heavyweight fighter Kimbo Slice talked last night at Elite XC: “Unfinished Business” about his upcoming fight in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., on October 4. This will be Kimbo’s second fight for Elite XC in the “dirty south.” The Miami native knocked out Tank Abbott back in February on the “Street Certified” card, which took place at the Bank United Center in Miami. The interesting thing is that Kimbo’s opponent has not yet been confirmed even though Brett “The Grim” Rogers was believed by most to be that opponent, especially after the post-event fireworks the two had following the May 31 show. Rogers hasn’t been ruled out as Kimbo’s October 4 counterpart, either, but all signs right now appear to point toward a different match up. Perhaps Elite XC believes Rogers is more deserving of a title shot at this point, or maybe they’re just protecting Kimbo. What say you?
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protecting Kimbo.. no doubt
my thoughts exactally.
I have a feeling that Grim will challenge Bigfoot for the title, leaving Kimbo to fight Justin Eilers.
They are waiting to see if Severn will take the fight.
Where did you hear this??
If they are asking Dan to take the fight? I dont see him, not taking a fight agianst Kimbo..
Im thinking we will see what john said above-happen.(unfortunatly)
Kimbo should be fighting BigFoot, but we all know CBS would not let that happen!
please john boy eric pele beat big foot silva! brock would maul him! he is elite xc champ but he is a chump!
brock beats herring by tko
i didnt mean to say Brock, even though Big Foot would Knock Brock the F out!
I mean to say Kimbo has no business being fed to Bigfoot!
I only mentioned Severn because he is like 50. It was supposed to be a joke. Next time I will add the lol so people do not get confused. haha
LMAO!! I thought you were serious!
+1
Yep, I agree as well. They will do anything to keep the bum winning.
Taking care of the golden calf that will milk them money!
Im sorry but i think Kimbo needs to fight a few more times before he’s thrown to the wolves. I don’t look at this as just protecting him. He’s 3-0, he needs more fights.
Ditto.
i agree
the ufc havent done this with brock and i dont think its wise dispite ppl sayin he’s not bein thrown bums is good i have to disagree
how many ppl have fought mir and herring in 2 of there 3 pro fights!
i think they should of started him abit lower down the food chain… fightin guys like o’brian (plz dont make comment about him beatin heath… heath is still better than o’brian despite the loss) and sanchez
throwin a learner in the deep end is not a good idea and the fact elite xc arnt doin this with kimbo is good
I agree! all these fools want to see Kimbo thrown to the wolves, but for what? What is the point? For him to loose? why? I want to see competitive fights, not mismatches…so
I actually like what they are doing with Kimbo.
Why should a guy with 3 fights be fighting top guys? He SHOULDNT!!! They are handling him the right way. If Brock looses to Hearing, it will be 2 in a row and the UFC will be destroying there quarter of a million per fight investment….EliteXC cant afford to ruin their investment (kimno)…so they are building him up and I have no problems with that whatsoever!
I mean seriously, what would be the point in feeding Brock to Bigfoot? We all know Bigfoot would win, that match up wouldnt interest me….But all you HATERS just want to see Kimbo loose, and I dont get it. The man works hard, has respect for the sport….why hate on him? Like my boy PhilQny says, some people are just born HATERs filled with hate in their blood.
Last night, again Kimbo said he is just a squirl in this mma world. He doesnt claim to be the best mma fighter. he always admits that he is a novice with a long way to go, yet u guys stioll Hate on him! Why? is he too successful for you? Get over it and respect what he has done with his life!
I like Kimbo as far as his well spokenness, his respect for the sport as well as his competition. On the flip side, with Hype comes expectations. We all expect Fedor to fight top guys and call him out when he was fighting cans. If you give this guy the hype, I say back it up!
Correct, a guy with 3 fights shouldn’t be fighting top competition. A guy with 3 fights also shouldn’t be on the cover of ESPN magazine or headlining shows. This is what brings the hate. Kimbo deserves the chance to earn a living and fight but at the same time there are other fighters that deserve the attention and spotlight more. Feed him some cans, just do it as the 1st televised fight or something, not the main event.
Unfortunately elite xc has decided to hype Bimbo like he’s something special. This is where the negativity comes from.
Had they advertized him as a second rate fighter, as a fighter who can defeat third and fourth tier fighters – you guys would have a point.
People don’t hate Kimbo, they hate the undeserved hype he has been afforded. He has done nothing to earn it…so naturally, people want to see him get his ass kicked by a real mma heavyweight.
I don’t expect he’ll be pushed next time around either.
Since when is Brett Rogers the top of Elite’s HW division? You guys sound like you want him to be like 20-0 before he fights someone legit! I’m not saying throw him to the wolves, but at least give him a test! This is getting lame on Kimbo and Elite’s part. There would be alot of sh*t talking if Lesnar was being fed cans. And what does (Kimbo respects MMA) have to do with anything? Does that mean he can go on fighting cans forever cause he respects MMA?
I agree, fighting Rogers doesn’t really equate to being fed to the wolves. I don’t see any comparison between Mir and Rogers.
yeh its elite xc’s fault not kimbo’s
they decide whos in the main event so i still dont know why every 1 is hatin kimbo becaue it is elite xc’s fault for promotin him 2 much
brock is fightin top fighters and isnt on the main event
kimbo is facin cans and is gettin on main events
hmmm which org is better…. i’ll let you decide
I agree that the hype is unwarranted, but you guys are knowledgeable fans and you guys should know better! Let the casual idiots swing all over Kimbo’s nuts, NO need to hate the guy. I am not a fan of his, but I respect his grind and I sure as hell dont hate on him.
Elitexc has no choice! they need Kimbo to survive….doesnt mean u guys should buy into the hype, but it doesnt mean thath you guys should HATE on him either!
I dont think he deserves any of the attention that he gets, but I dont hate on him either. I watch his fights with an open mind, and I always try to remember that I am watching a novice fighter with a long ways to go. I watch his fights to see his improvement from the previous ones. I HATE ALL THE HYPE HE GETS, but I dont Hate on him for it.
john and kevin (and a few of you other cats), agree with you both. Kimbo is doing this the right way, and his hype is not his fault, it’s Shaw’s. So IMO people should stop the hate. Hell, I’d have a beer with the guy. It would interesting, AND he could introduce you to pornstars! But VERY, VERY soon, they are going to have to start moving him up the ladder. There is only so much hype Elite can do with him if he continues to give sub-par performances versus sub-par opponents.
F**K Frank Shamrock! I want to see Lawler vs. Cung Le!
by the way, Scott Smith broke his foot!
Not that you all care,
I was the first person with my group of friends 2 throw Lesnar under the buss. But Man, that guy impressed me with his loss. He looked scary against Mir. He would have fucked him up if not for the sub. He even seemed to like losing.
I’m a good shot in pool and I REALLY enjoy losing. It means that I was out played and I should learn from it. I feel that is how Brock is and I will cheer him on from now on. I think that he will be something and wants to learn.
big paul, I didn’t like Lesnar at first either! I was more concerned with the “WWE” aspect taking away credibility from a sport that at the time was knocking on the door of going mainstream. But he’s training hard and doing it the right way, so props to him! If he becomes well rounded, a LOT of HW’s are going to check their caller ID and not answer the phone when Joe Silva calls to schedule a fight with him!
Chef: same hear, I too originally hated on Brock Bigtime…now I am a fan! I root for him because he got cheated out of a huge win against Mir…
Please I’m tired of hearing this he’s not ready crap. Maybe he doesn’t kick but Kimbo is the toughest fighter in Elite and he can knock out any chump they pit him against. Bigfoot or “BigChin” is lucky they don’t make him fight Kimbo cuz he wouldn’t have his title long.
protecting kimbo 100%
Ken Shamrock lol
I don’t think that is so silly. Ken could beat Kimbo 8 out of ten times.
If this was 1998! But now, it’s just 6 out of 10!
In 98 it would have been 10 out of 10. 2008, I say it may be 50/50. Ken has fallen hard.
Chris Cyborg could probably take him.
hahaha, agreed
Yeah she would. I still think that was Wandy in a pink outfit and wig.
LMAO, funniest thing I ever read here!
Kimbo is an emarasement to the sport and a useless business venture, elite xc could have gained as much if not more than the market share they presently have,
You spelling may be a worse “emarasement” to your grade school teacher.
Your grammar is even worse.
English is obviously not my first language, we are discussing mma here, no?
Si.
Don’t worry Ro-J, English as your second language is better than some on here that have it as their first!
Kimbo is just a marketing tool. He has done them good in the way of getting viewers on the CBS shows but he will never be able to take on any real fighters. I think they should give him the title shot against Silva now. Would be such an hilarious fight. Kimbo would be done in under a minute.
If they don’t match him up with Rodgers, the fans he is trying to win over might be unaffected. His crowd is fans of street thugs not the sport. They are unaware of the confrontation between the two. The hardcore fans already have little respect for Kimbo. From a business point of view they gain nothing from matching Kimbo up against worthy advisories. His fans just want to see him beat people up. I would love to see the fight happen. The two of them have similar styles and are both a little showboat-y. I would lvoe to see Bret win and have Kimbo’s fans transition to follow a more suitable MMA fighter. I don’t think Rogers is a top fighter, but Kimbo has yet to impress me.
this is such crap. Kimbo sucks and should go back to his youtube backyard brawls. He has no business in MMA and I for one am looking forward to Kimbo getting subbed or knocked the hell out. What an old dirty bastard…he should’ve been in the Wu Yang Clan that’s how ugly he is.
I remember a time when only women commented on how ugly a guy was…..ahhh the good ol’ days
I notice that DonJuan has a severe man crush on Kimbo.
Do his nads smell like rose petals?
Protecting Kimbo or just using good business, marketing, and common sense, Ill go with the latter, why put a new guy that tons (6 million) of people want to see in there against competition he’s not ready for?
Speaking of which what ever happened to Brock Lesner? His nationwide buzz and excitement died with one quick submission. That was dumb on UFC’s part to pit a new to MMA wrestler GNP guy against a submissions expert in Mir, thank God EXC hasnt been as dumb.
I gotta disagree. I was ready to trash Lesnar, until I found out that he was fighting Mir. You may be right as far as the casual fan, but I think Lesnar gained much more respect in losing to a worthy opponent than he would had he throttled some can.
Don Juan:
eh?????
What do you mean what has happened to Lesnar??
Do you follow MMA??
Go to UFC’s website and look at Schedule, then Events, then click on UFC 87 (next event) and BINGO!!
Lesnar is one of the few MMA fighters that I’m excited about ‘cuz the dude hasn’t reached his full potential yet. It’s scary to think what the guy could do w/ legit jitz skills!
Not even legit jiu-jitsu just some sub defense.Lesnar as a prospect is in a different league as Slice. Eilers v. Kimbo would be exciting and would end in a spectacular KO. Make it happen!!
a well rounded Lesnar would scare more than a few HW’s!
I wonder who they’ll pick this time as a stepping stone for Kimbo.
since they (elite) have put gary shaw in the background (some say fired) they could have kimbo/rogers, carrano/cyborg and diaz/noons 2. that would be an awsome card for them and the best one for them to date. but if shaw comes back ( i see alot of web-sites blaming his absence as to why this elite event wasnt as hyped as the 1rst time around) we would probably see kimbo/tank 2, carano vs the girl cyborg beat shanya blazer and noons and diaz would be fighting, just not against each other. plus he would probably throw in a wierd al yankovich concert in between the fights. lol! btw if kimbo wants to be taken seriuosly as an mma fighter, he needs to demand to elite officials that he fight a decent caliber opponent. they might as well let him fight silva for the title. if he gets wrecked, they can build a star out of bigfoot. and if kimbo gets lucky and catches silva with a big punch ( not out of the question the way bigfoot keeps his chin straight up and out) then the sky’s the limit for kimbo. he’s gonna get beat sooner or later, might as well be someone they can build off of.
b.w., the first fights you mentioned would make for a very interesting card. I know I’d watch it!
Tank Abbott?
James Thompson?
oooh I know who..
BO…. nevermind.
If Justin Eilers agrees to fight at 218 like he did against Silva, then I say match him up with Kimbo Slice.
I think Pee Wee right now will be a good fight for Kimbo, and Bi Roy Nelson is still looking to fight Kimbo… So who knows, it will probably be Kimo Leopold or something.
The Blueberry Muffin is too good for Kimbo at this point. The Colussus proved it. Kimbo isn’t ready for anyone except for people only willing to stand and trade, pending, they have little to no professional training to date.
Protecting him, no doubt. I wouldn’t be surprised if two things happened regarding his fight on October 4th: they offer the fight to his opponent on Sept 4th and that it not be offered to Rogers. If un-EliteXC believed its own hype about this bum, he would have been the one fighting Silva last night and not Eilers (and like some others have said, it wouldn’t surprise me if his opponent was Eilers). Kimbo is a joke in the world of MMA. Everyone knows it, including his stupid croanies and Elite XC higher ups.
I’d like to see Monson roll this jabrone, but Elite XC would never let that happen.
I am also in the “can’t wait to see Kimbo knocked out” club. I actually can’t decide if it would be cooler for him to tap or get knocked out? As long as he loses and CBS can’t make him out to be something he’s not anymore.
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
Then you want him to be knocked out. Losing via submission would prove nothing other than his ground game is still his weakness but if he got KO’d he’d have to be careful fighting on the ground and standing.
there protecting kimbo 100%, there goin to givr him 2 more crap fights so he can win and then give him a title shot, can you imagine kimbo slice a mma champ elitexc needs to re think this whole thing before they loose some respect among the mma comunity.
give*, my bad
Kimbo = Protected.
Kimbo= inexperienced
Kimb > or = CAN
That’s debatable. He’s still pretty good for the amount of experience that he has.
The thing about Kimbo if he worked his way like every other fighter I don’t think you would see the anger about him. In a business point of view he is a marketable guy based on the internet fights. If Gary Shaw is smart he is going to milk this for everything it is worth. There is no way you will see Kimbo in with Grim he will get another C or D class fighter to fill his resume. Even Justin Eilers would be a risk cause he is still an experienced fighter and could very well walk through Kimbo if he gets him on the ground. Look for another ex boxer or security guard for him to fight.
Kimbo Winning=$’s which means Kimbo+Can=October Match.
My wife is with me watching Bigfoot stalk Eilers around the ring and she says “why isn’t Kimbo fighting Bigfoot, that other guy doesn’t even look like a heavy weight!”. I told her they’d never set up that match as they need to keep the Kimbo Cash Machine open for a while longer and a 30 second fight ending with Kimbo getting submitted would be a problem for Elite XC.
I know it’s completely out of the blue, but does anybody know when Nate Quarry is competing again? He hasn’t fought since UFC 83 and to be honest I think he can be a factor in the middleweight division. He only has one loss in his career and it’s against Rich Franklin. Since coming back from servere back surgery he has looked great against Pete Sell and Kaleb Starnes. How about a matchup with Martin Kampman? They’re two guys in simmilar situations. Both have had great success in the UFC before devistating injuries forcede both of them to stop competing for a very long period of time and both looked good in comeback fights. Just somthing to think about.
they are waiting for him to get off the juice
Quarry v. Kampmann would be be nice to see. Got to give Martin the slight advantage everywhere though. Joe Silva would be wise to make a fight like this happen.
Very great idea and yes, Kampmann had the edge in every department, except for wrestling, most likely.
It’s not Kimbo’s fault Elite XC has hyped him as much as they have.
no its mr dress ups
He will fight Eilers because he is worth money more as a side show than as a contender.
I honestly think Eilers will likely beat him. Most of his losses are to pretty tough dudes, Brandon Vera, Arlovski, etc.
I think Eilers would likely beat Kimbo as well. It could go either way but still.
Eilers is dropping to 205.
And face The Spider…LOL!!
I dont even know why Mania puts these articles up about KIMBO. He is’nt MMA, he’s a marketing gimick. This is a waste of all of our time. By the time this fool is ready to be a HALF WAY DECENT MMA FIGHTER, it will be time for his old ass to retire.
KIMBO=WASTE OF TIME!
You just gave him some of your time…..He must be a Jedi mind trick master
Definite man crush.
Love is in the air…
They do articles on him because he is a big name in the sport now. Some people want to know about him. I know I do. I don’t think he is the greatest fighter but I like to watch him fight.
of course they are protecting Kimbo! and honestly that’s the only right thing to do.. it’s a business and they’re making the right decision by not letting Kimbo fight too tough opponents this early in his MMA career.. if Brock Lesnar loses against Heath Herring then somebody needs to take Joe Silva and Dana White out of there, cause even if Brock does win over Heath Herring it’s still not right to put Brock in there with guys like Heath, if he beats Heath then what’s next Werdum? the UFC is the ones that are doing the wrong thing… cause they want to make quick money off of Brock!
RoB, these top organizations like the UFC, Elite XC, and Affliction are supposed to feature the top fighters and top competition. If fighters have to be coddled and breast fed then they probably don’t belong with the big boys. True MMA fans don’t want to see circus side-shows and freak-shows! We want to see the best fight the best. If they can’t hang, why do you want to watch them? If you want to see chumps fight, go to youtube and type “brawlers.”
ok RedDog.. so they should release 50% of their fighters u think? fact is that Brock Lesnar isn’t a top fighter yet but he could be, so if they were smart they would make him fight Antoni Hardonk, Eddie Sanchez or Jake O’Brien or someone like that to give him some time to learn and get some experience to reach his potential.. it would be tough on Brock and many of the fans would give up on him if he loses 2 times in a row knowing he fought top competition with so much more experience than him too early in his UFC career!
RoB…Release 50% of their fighters?? 50% is a bit much but I assume you’re exaggerating to make a point. The fact is, they have released a lot of fighters who aren’t quite ready yet. Good for them! We want to see the best! RoB, answer this, would you rather see the best fight the best or the most hyped fight cans? Actually, you don’t need to answer that; you already did. Yeah it is a business, but in this business you have to put up or shut up. Besides, it’s how you perform in those matches that plays a big role. Kimbo has not looked very good at all. Brock was rocking Mir until he got caught. Even if he does lose a second time, if he performs well and shows improvement each time, they should keep him around. You can’t make a blanket statement about who should stay and who should go. These things need to be looked at case by case and fight by fight. But coddling fighters is never the answer. Whose best interest does that serve?
I don’t think anyone would give up on him if he lost to competition. Heath is a tough dude and most people would understand. The problem is if he lost he would most likely get a no name guy in his next fight. That is where the UFC is being risky because if he happened to get upset then he would basically be done. Kimbo however I feel alot of non mma fans think he is an unbeatable beast. So one loss and hes basically done.
Kimbo is an inexperienced fighter. He is a big draw so people expect him to fight great fighters. It is stupid that he gets put on the cover of ESPN but he is still inexperienced. You shouldn’t expect him to fight top notch fighters just because he is popular. Brock is fighting top competition, but he wants it and he is a beast with a great background in wrestling.
Yeah and that beast got submitted in like 1 min and some change
That beast also pounded out that K1 can in less than a minute. That beast still wants top competition and wants to train to become the best. That beast almost beat Frank Mir as well. It was his inexperience that screwed him over.(that and the loss of the point and standing up due to the strikes to the back of the head) He has a great reach, he’s quick on his feet, has good take down defense, is known for having extreme cardio, and has a great deal of power. That beast has potential.
To be fair, Brock did almost smash Mir’s head through the floor of the cage with hammer fists.
The point about Kimbo growing with Elite XC as his talent grows is a good point. But he’s being pushed down our throat’s like he IS one of the top guys. Maybe he does have the potential to be great, but will we ever see it?
Also, I take issue with a street brawler being the face of MMA on CBS. It gives the wrong impression of true mma.
not only did he smash his face in the fight should have been over due to tko from GnP. that stoppage and point deduction were completely unnecessary. mir rolled and took 1 shot to the back that was already in motion, you can’t penalize a guy for not checking his swing because the guy on the ground rolled over. not to mention any other fight i’ve ever seen they get like 800 verbal warnings before the ref ever does anything about it anyway.
I think that two experienced opponents for Brock could be Cheik Kongo and Tim Sylvia. As long as Lesnar has a good chin or can get them to the ground, he should get victory.
Both of these guys are susceptible to being taken down and taken down often. I think Brock would beat either opponent.
Brock is the real deal…Unlike Mr. Slice who Elite XC protects. He’s an investment that should be milked for what he’s worth, marketwise that is…
I agree that Brock could take those two guys but I think that Tim Sylvia has pretty good takedown defense still.
Randy is a great wrestler but much smaller. He had his way taking Sylvia down virtually at will. Better take down defense compared to Kongo likely but that is not a great feat.
This isnt news or interesing. Wow a fighter wants to ko someone, shocking.
All he really has against the other HW’s in EliteXC at this point is a punchers chance. Every fighter is going to come in with the game plan to take him down and pound him. He will lose his next fight unless they pull some fighters from smaller orgs. Sorry Kimbo lovers, all 4 of you that maybe on here.
kimbo has accepted his role as the star of elite, he’s cashing the big checks, signing with the big sponsers(most recently TAPOUT) so he’s gonna have to get used to the hard knocks that go along with fame and fortune. it’s not like he’s the only mma star under scrutiny. not even close. i think the fans have every right to demand more of kimbo, experience or no experience. he’s went from making hundreds in the boatyards to hundreds of thousands on national t.v. i have a hard time feeling any sympathy or empathy for kimbo. i dont wish him any ill will, but its time to make him earn his keep.
Brock knows he’s an amateur in this game and isn’t afraid to acknowledge it. Kimbo, or at least those promoting Kimbo and the idiots he surrounds himself with (with the exception of Bas) think he’s the biggest and baddest. Kimbo doesnt have the sense to tell these clowns that they are talking him and promoting him into a joke and/or an early MMA grave…
Match Kimbo against Dave “Pee Wee” Herman – that guy is raw but a legit fighter. I saw him in Miami destroy his opponent and he looked pretty good during the first CBS show.
Kimbo said he has a long way to go. He was right. He needs to give up smoking and devote his life to MMA while he’s young enough to do the sport.
Kimbo Slice eyes knockout finish in October against … ?
a sack of flour?
Indeed. Kimbo Slice? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…
6 million viewers
Name me one other MMA fighter that can draw such a crowd?
Chuck? Randy? maybe Tito?
it’s annoying all the whining about kimbo not deserving to headline events and hatin him for it, look, it’s the company’s decision to make him their poster boy and he’s just going along with it, any of you would too if u had the chance, and w/out kimbo, elitexc wouldn’t have so much attention or maybe even wouldn’t have gotten a deal w/ cbs, in a business sense it’s a very wise decision to use him how they are, including taking it slow with his opponents
I wouldn’t want to see kimbo against rogers. For some reason I just feel there would be some kind of dispute with the judges decision or a refs decision and then all mayhem would break out. There would be brawls in the stands and in the cage, and people who happened to tune in would think mma is wwe. People who saw it on espn would think the sport was a joke. Thats just a crazy feeling I have lol.
DUH……of course there protecting…there “GOLEN” boy. Gary Shaw has SO much talent in Elite XC many of his guys could compete for titles in UFC tommorow. Seriously but THE Grim Reaper Rogers in there so he can whoop that kimbo butt, and then they can showcase there TRUE talent instead of some street bum.
DUH……of course there protecting…there “GOLDEN” boy. Gary Shaw has SO much talent in Elite XC many of his guys could compete for titles in UFC tommorow. Seriously but THE Grim Reaper Rogers in there so he can whoop that kimbo butt, and then they can showcase there TRUE talent instead of some street bum.
They are protecting Kimbo, but they are also setting up more interesting fights. Who wants to see Kimbo get taken down by Rogers for 3 rounds. I’d rather watch Kimbo KO Eilers. And I’d rather watch Big Foot work his submissions once Rogers took him down.
kimbo is fighting guys who butterbean has knocked out like james thompsom wooooo hooooo