No sense in compiling them when SI.com has already done it:
Just for the sake of comparison UFC 84: “Ill Will” fighter salaries tallied $1,098,000, which is considered high — if not the highest ever — for the promotion.
Wow.
July 21st, 2008
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and everyone tried saying fedor was just about the money, he made less than most of the other top stars.hopefully they pulled in 1 million at the gate or more and got enough ppv’s to break evan or maybe make a little.
THese Figures are WRONG!!! There is no way that Fedor made less than a MILLION Dollars…NO WAY!!!
RIGHT????? What is up with that?? No Bonus either?? How does the Champion that is in the Main Event win against #3 contender and he doesn’t get a bonus. But Arlovski gets a 1/4 Million $ bonus for beating up Rothwell? Fedor could have killed Ben.
I’m with John, in that I think that there is something wrong with these numbers. I heard over $1 million as well. I heard Fedor was getting close to $2 million actually, and that Timmy was getting $800,000 win or lose. Timmy got the $800k but Fedor was way off. The source I got that from is reliable and they had Timmy’s number right on the money.
I mean Ben Rothwell just about made as much money as Fedor. WTF?!?!?!?!
Lindland and Barnett each made about the same as Fedor.
How does Timmy and Arlovski get paid nearly 3 times as much as Fedor???
VM: I am positive that Fedor made more from Affliction than $300,000. maybe they paid him money up front as a signing bonus to do all the promotions that he had to do, but I am 100% positive that Affliction forked over a million plus to Fedor for taking part in the event.
NO DOUBT IN MY MIND That FEDOR made at the very least, 1.5 million!
Perhaps Trump himself is giving Fedor the additional $1+ million.
somebody paid him, because there is no way that he went back to Russia with less than 1.5 million, courtesy of Affliction!
VM: u were right, he is just “Fedorable” LMAO!!!!
I absolutely loved that sign in the crowd and I will be using that word in the future quite often.
When Fedor cracked that one little smile in the ring afer his win, he just looked so Fedorable.
Makes me just want to pinch his Fedorable cheeks! He smiles like the doughboy….I dont understand how Fedor isnt everyone’s favorite! the guys is just pure class and skills!
I didnt know it came from a sign. I thought u made it up when u text me. I guess I missed the sign during the broadcast because I had 2 tv’s hooked up in the saqme room and I was trying to watch both events simultaneously.
LOL. I wish I came up with it.
do ya reckon sylvia got paid so much because they wanted him 2 throw the fight and make fedor look good
why did every fighter have money deducted (300 or so) from their purse?
How in the world did Sylvia make more than double FEDOR?? I hope no one responds with “thats only the disclosed payroll”…cuz no way did Affliction pay another million or so to fedor on top of the $3.3 disclosed.
well john, it’s no wonder syliva “took a dive”…why go through 5 rounds of @$$-rapin when you can get it over with in 36sec and walk away 800k richer? hehe
A 45 yr old Randy beat him for 5 rounds… Why can’t Fedor stop him 36 seconds?
wow now we know why tim lost so quickly, hes done, id be very suprised to see him fight again… cashed in!
Since he is fighting on the next Adrenaline MMA show on 9/6 I dont think he cashed in just yet. Supposively he is making around 500K for that show.
what are your sources for this infomation?
Im pretty sure Fedor didn’t make that, wasn’t he suppose to get 1.5 Million? These figures are wrong surely.
\If Tim took a dive, then so did Rampage, GSP (when Serra beat him), Hughes when Alves beat him….This BS dive talk from you guys is worth than accusing fighters of using Roids for no reason! How could u guys consider your selves Fan’s of the sport and try to cheapen it like that?
U should be Banned from this site for saying such ridiculous things!
You are macho bullshit
Fedor was paid over a million dollars! i AM POSITIVE ABOUT THAT!
john,thats the answer to how much Tim made under the table. I thought I read before he was going to make 300k? So he got paid 500k more to take the dive. Now with that dive Affliction sold Fedor to Americans.
Didn’t look like a dive to me, he got rocked freakin hard.
lol looks like proof he took a dive.
He didn’t take a dive. He got his ass BEAT by the most dominant fighter. IF Timmy won the fight in 30 seconds I’d say Fedor may have taken a dive. But Fedor is more than capable of beating anyone in 30 seconds.
TRUE THAT!
don’t start with that stupid sh*t again,its weak come up with something better jv
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-07-21 13:15:17 I’m having trouble putting myself in Big Tim’s shoes. He wasn’t just having another fight, another payday. He was facing a living legend (and Tim most definitely looked apprehensive right before it started). For me, that would be like having Escoffier come back from the dead and challenge me to cook. I’d probably puke down my apron! And in that split second of uncertainty, Fedor unloaded on him. I honestly think it couldn’t have been fixed. What money Tim could have made from that would be dwarfed by following paydays as he would’ve been known as the fighter that beat Fedor!
Chefdaddy, maybe Tim could have got paid 500k like Chuck gets for beating Fedor. But 800k??? does that not tell you everything? Just wait and see how much Tim makes on the next show. Fedor is Affliction’s ticket to survive. So they paid Tim an extra 500k to take the dive and now they promote Fedor/Couture. Fedor is Affiction’s ticket to survival.
JV, nothing is impossible, especially in the sports world, but I’m a stubborn rat-bastard, and I simply don’t see it. It’s still my opinion that no matter what someone could have slipped Tim under the table, he would have made FAR more if he became the ONE AND ONLY guy to actually beat Fedor. And who’s to say Affliction will get Fedor vs Randy? There is no way Dana will take his teeth out of that one, and if he wants, he can tie Randy up in court for ages. The only thing I might take a half-@ss guess at: 1-Randy comes back and fights BIG Nog first then goes for Fedor. Doubt that one, cuz Dana won’t risk his HW belt going outside the UFC. 2- Maybe Dana allows Fedor vs Randy (removing his hold on the belt and leaving it to Nog), and UFC and Affliction split the money. What do you think of that one? It seems to solve a lot of problems. The UFC keeps its belt (even if Fedor beat Nog twice), Randy and Fedor get to see who is better (not much doubt on my part as to who that might be) and both organizations make much dinero and gain TONS OF EXPOSURE!
It won’t happen. The UFC doesn’t want anyone else to get money or exposure.
JV
Its funny how everyone calls me and you conspiracy theorist because we even hinted that Tim Sylvia took a ‘dive’.
Thorozine comes to mind immediately. Hey bro..please explain to me how Tim Sylvia was paid half a million more than Fedor for that performance.
If there wasn’t a straight bribe to take a dive, that huge guaranteed paycheck didn’t give Tim Sylvia much motivation to fight hard.
I was under the impression that Fedor was getting a percentage of the live gate and ppv sales. I could be wrong but i thought that was the deal.
Supposively Fedor’s total pay is going to be around 1.5mil according to payout. He has a promotional contract with Affliction in addition to his fight contract.
And JV, Chuck doesnt make 500K a fight. That doesnt factor the PPV bonus he gets that is rumored to be higher then his base salary. Chuck clears a 1mil easy. Dana even said as much during the Randy fiasco when he went out of his way to reveal how much certain fighters are paid.
It is strange guys that you don’t understand that Fedor would come for free just to prove to American audience that he is the best. But to find a worthy opponent who knew that he would be destroyed (and his carrier) in a minute (There is nothing in UFC which can withstand Fedor.) this was the problem. By the way now I would be surprise if Fedor would not cash in. Now he become if not a legend then a pain in ass in States and a lot of money should be there to see that somebody would beat him. It should be a line waiting. But maybe I am wrong and UFC guys would just talk it out with their “fixed” garbage and pretend that among theirs bunch of potato bags there is a better fighter than Fedor, or how they would put “the world champion” as usual.
This talk about Tim taking a dive is based on the assumption that Fedor needed Tim to dive, which I don’t think is the case. I don’t understand why Fedor took the fight for 300K when Dana would have paid him nearly 10X that for the same fight in UFC.
TabascoSAUCE, please explain to me how they paid Tim that much, and then RELEASED the information. Jesus guys, it’s not like Affliction is hiding it or anything!
Conspiracy theories in Tim vs Fedor= complete and utter bullsh*t!
Chef…I posted something similar in another thread.
I’ve followed Fedor since his Pride days…I’ve gotten to watch bootleg Samba tournaments he’s been..I’ve seen how good Fedor is.
I’ve also lived in an era where many baseball players have been found using steriods, NBA officials are being paid off to shave points, and boxing refs were on the payroll to fix fights.
Would it surprise you the least bit if 3-4 months down the road, Tim was found to have throw the fight? I think if Fedor fought Tim 10 times, Fedor would win all ten of them. But, the UFC maybe the most ‘reliable’ MMA org of all the competition. Crocop vs Gonzaga probably lost the UFC millions. Yet, they are still around.
Affliction can’t afford Fedor to lose. That’s a scary thing don’t you think? If the same fight happened in the UFC, and Fedor destroyed Tim in the same fashion (which would probably happen), I’d be a more convinced MMA fan.
That’s the enjoyment of these forums…we have the right to our opinions. Cheers!
Good post TabascoSAUCE. to say complete and utter bullsh!t is wrong chefdaddy. EliteXC is an established Org. and everybody called it fixed, why? cause they were 27mil in the whole and Kimbo was their life line. Affliction knew they were going to loose money on this first show, so why is it hard to believe that the fix was on??? Now after seeing Fedor destroy a former UFC champ, they will do good in their next show. Have you guys heared the bull Tim said at the post fight press conference? The whole show those weak announcers kept suck!ng Fedor nuts. Then it was for a belt that neither deserved to be fighting for. You guys dont want to hear it cause its Fedor.
JV and Tabascosauce-
Based on Fedor’s dominant history your conspiracy talk is baseless and w/o merit.
Tim has always been an inconsistent HW that has a mixed win/loss record against HW’s with less talent than Fedor.
Why is it surprising that Fedor crushed him?
U dont throw a fight by letting Fedor Blast you in the face like 5 times (did you conspirociy idiots see how hard those punches were thrown)? There have been no DIVES in MMA! If there has ever been a dive in MMa, it would have been Bo Catrell loosing to Kimbo adter kimbo punched him on the shoulder!
U dont take a dive in a match involving 2 top 5 fighters. Its just stupid, and If I was moderating this site, I wouldn’t even let you cheapen the sport by typing such BS!!!
EXACTLY. I really can’t believe what I’m reading.
STOP HATING. Fedor is simply that good and the two of you are just realizing it because you never seen him fight before. Fedor will do that to ANYONE.
I didn’t hear a SINGLE person accusing that fight of being fixed up until the moment this post was made. If the fighst was fixed, you would have noticed something was up during the fight (ala Kimbo/Cantrell).
Tobasco and JV, I always enjoy your posts, but we must simply agree to disagree on this one! lol
I do not enjoy posts that discredit the sport I love! Why the hell would Fedor need his opponents to take a dive?
Also, Tim was said to be making $800,000 from the start!
If anyone took a dive it was Irvin!!! He got cracked in his cheekbone….I dont ever remember someone being knocked out by getting blasted on their cheek!
cHANGE YOUR SCREENAME YOU lame! tHIS BLOG I9S ONLY BIG ENOUGH FOR 1 JOHN!
cHANGE YOUR NAME you lame! This blog is only big enough for 1 John, and I got seniority!
Affliction made a few mistake with there pay scale.
why the hell did they waste $300,000 on Matt Lindland? HIs stinky boring self isnt worth $30 grand a fight! I mean, seriously did anyone think he was going to be involved in an exciting fight?
They only paid Nogueira $50,000? THats Veryu cheap!
rothwell = Overpaid!
Tim = Overpaid
Fedor = Underpaid
Arlovski = worth every penny
Babalu aand Vitor are grossly overpaid!
THey are paying way too much for these fighters. They can lower there pay by a lot and it would still be better than what the UFC would pay them!
Time to start trimimnng costs for the next show
That’s the first ??? in my head
wow that is retarded salaries!!! i gues they were pretty pissed when they realized sylvia onl lasted 36 seconds for that pay..Fedor deserves the better pay.b hmm makes me wonder hwy fedro didnt take with UFC if he is only making 300k they offered him million per fight.
That’s what I thought. If he was going to fight for 300K he could have went to the UFC to fight Randy and a whole lot of drama could’ve been avoided. I heard he wanted the UFC to sign his brother as well and someone else in the Fedor camp.Maybe thats the reason.
Kenton, if I remember correctly (and 50 people will blast/correct me if I’m wrong) it wasn’t about the money. Fedor wanted his brother and most of his Red Devil squad signed to the UFC. He also disagreed with not being allowed to fight outside the UFC on contract, and he objected to the UFC’s rollover clause (after your contract is up, if you’re the champ, it AUTOMATICALLY renews for the same pay.) I’m sure there were more issues for both sides.
Dana mentioned that his manager wanted a gym built in Russia as well. His words not mine.
I seem to recall that yes, those were the reported(rumored?) reasons for Fedor not taking the UFC contract, that the UFC was only interested in signing him and not half of his camp, and he wanted to still be able to fight outside of the UFC while under contract. Though I do also seem to recall Dana stating somewhere that Fedor’s management kept trying to highball him with the numbers Fedor allegedly wanted for the contract and were trying to sell him on business prospects like building a stadium in Russia.
Now that Lorenzo Fertitta is eclipsing Dana and focusing on international expansion, the UFC may be more open to Fedor’s requests.
I heard that Fedor wanted to be able to compete in Sambo tourneys in Russia (which the UFC doesn’t allow), he wanted 8 members of his red devel squad signed to UFC contracts (his brother included, and he wanted a gym built in Russia.
Cheffdaddy: u r rirght! those are the reason’s that Fedor didnt sign in the UFC… .dana is an idiot! He should have offered Fedor a contract only exclusive in the USA. Meaning Fedor can go fight in Japan whenever he wants! Seriously, why should Dana care if Fedor fights in Japan while he is in the UFC? Fedor will never loose! So its not like Dana has to worry about 1 of his champions loosing in another organization! Fedor cant loose, he doesnt even know how to loose!
If anything,. Fedor being a UFC fighter and fighting outside of the country would only increease the UFC’s fan base, because Japanese Fans, who dont follow the UFC, would all have to start paying attention to the UFC to see Fedor
If the UFC had Fedor vs. Nogueira 3 in Japan, they can sell oput a stradium with over 140,000 people, something they can only dream of doing in America
Has Fedor ever fought in a cage? Maybe he didn’t like the idea of that.
Fedor and his brother Aleks have both fought in a cage!
Fedor’s style is actually better suited for an American Cage fight…he never really used to many Knees on the ground or soccer kicks and head stomps when fighting under Pride!
If Fedor stacks someone against the cage and works his Best Ground n pound attack ever seen (with elbows included) It could lead to the 1st death in American mma!
He is just that scary!
BANKRUPT!!
Wow, Sylvia made $22,222.22 per second!
Anyone else not surprised that AA looked like crap for the last few fights of his UFC contract and now he looks like the AA of old? I can think of 750 reasons.
I think AA was pissed at what Ariel asked him. AA knows Rothwell is friends with Big Tim, so AA was probably picturing Tim while hitting Rothwell.
lol nice, 750 reasons!
plus he wasn’t on the undercard, lol.
I would get in the ring with Fedor for $22,222 per second. It would take him at least four seconds to corner me and probably another 20 or 30 seconds to stop laughing after I peed myself.
Wow. Arlovski got a 250k bonus, I’m guessing for fight of the night.
Good job Tim Silvia. For a fighter that everyone hates and no one wants to watch you made a pile of money.
Affliction is nuts! Freaking nuts!
WTF you have to be kidding me. How can Timmay make that much more than Fedor. Unreal.
How the fuck can they rob the best fighter in the world like that? I seriously hope Affliction dies after insulting Fedor with such a shitty salary. Its disgraceful.
He agreed to his pay before he fought. I bet there is some catch that isn’t being told like the back end off PPV or something.
300,000 for a night work. How horrable. lol
Everyone is comparing Sylvia’s salary to Fedors but what you have to remember is Fedor was a free agent who hadn’t had a fight in ages.
Timmy was well settled in the biggest org in the world, they had to pay big to get him out of there.
I hope that the promoters made money because I want to see another event like that again. (Minus the megadeth, of course).
It should have been Fedor making that 800,000 not fking Timmy
Sylvia way to go. you’ll need every penny you earned to last a lifetime. you won’t earn more than $8 next fight.
yeah, be surprised if you get the chance to watch another affliction show.
My guess is that Fedor is getting a cut out of the PPV, plus didn’t you guys notice the M-1 logos around the ring, graphics, even on his name during the presentation. M-1 must be paying a percentage to Fedor as well so my guess is that he probably made the most money out of everyone listed. He didn’t go to the UFC because they could not let his management be part of the production and promote their M-1 organization, as easy as that, all they wanted was a chunk of the UFC and now they are probably getting a huge chunk out of affliction. If they didn’t break even hopefull Fedor can take his payment in a bunch of crappy t-shirts.
tim is not worth a tenth of his pay
fedor is underpaid
Aside from Big Dumb Tim getting that outrageous purse, I cant believe Fedor only got $50k more than Rothwell, and no bonus to boot! He has to be getting something under the table.
everybody, I am pretty sure fighters don’t sit around and worry about how much we make so… WHO CARES!
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Nor would they pay their hard earned money to watch you flip burgers on TV. You want fries with that?
did affliction think they had to pay timmeh that much to get him to fight for them. i’d bet tim would’ve fought for at least half that amount if not less(say 400k as opposed to 800k). they wasted serious dough on him. they could’ve gotten arlovski and rothwell a little cheaper too. rothwell made pennies in the ifl. i’d say he’d have fought for 100,000(instead of 250,000). arlovski would’ve probly fought and been happy for 300,000 and no bonus(as opposed to 750k total). i’ve just saved affliction a million dollars right there!!! and that’s not even mentioning the 200k they over spent on lindland, he’s worth about 25-50k per fight. barnett is worth 300k per fight and fedor is worth more than barnett, probly worht around 500k per fight.
BS Fedor only made 300K.
What a JOKE!!!
Come on, you guys really think Fedor made less than Tim ?
think a lil harder
guys quit being tards…plain and simple…affliction sold us fedor aint about money…guarenteed fedor is getting under the table money dude…common dudes realize!!
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LOL @ Tim’s share. talk about a waste of money.
i wonder if they came up positive or negative as in… how many ppv they sold and how much they made off of the event. it was good to see top notch HWs fight. seems like it’s been a while.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE DAY WHERE FIGHTS GET PAID ACCORDING TO HOW WELL THEY PERFORM. SYLVIA WOULD THEN BE LUCK TO HAVE MADE 5K AS OPPOSED TO THE AMOUNT THAT HE DID. FEDOR WILL BE ON AT LEAST 500K IN HIS NEXT BOUT.
Exhibit A on why this promotion won’t last!!
how could Tim get 800k?! Fedor deserve that money and where’s the bonus pay? ridiculous! Fedor must be pissed! f*ck Tim Sylvia!
And you thought Sylvia was UNPOPULAR before this fight……..Wait till word gets out that he made $800,000, basically more than any other fighter in history WHILE Fedor got $300,000??????
I am sure that UFC might of paid a couple fighters with BIG BONUSES like Hughes beating Gracie and GSP beating Hughes…But people are REALLY going to hate Big Tim now!!!!
That is unheard of???? How could that happen???? How could Fedor and his mgt team let it happen??? Come on, old ass Tank Abott got something like $130,000, nearly the same as Kimbo
Don’t forget that Trump is a billionaire, 3.3 mil is not much out of Trump’s billion dollar pocket.
yeah, but even billionaires dont just give out money….to only have less than in return. Dont expect him to back shows unless he is MAKING money
you’re right, thats true.
You know Fedor and his team will negotiate…..How could they let Tim make 2 and a half times what Fedor did?????
And if Fedor didnt know that until afterwards, then maybe the UFC has a chance to get him aferwards.
Fedor got Paid Over a million!
LOL You think Trump is a charity? EVERY SINGLE THING he does comes with the intention of making more money.
if affliction breaks even, they win. after other fighters see the difference in pay, theyll jump ship. affliction prolly made great money on just clothing sales! itll be interesting to see what the ufc does. but i do agree, fedor should have made the 800k not timmay!
Their live gate was 2.1 million. I doubt the ppv buys & t-shirt sales made up for the rest. No fighter is gonna jump ship for a promotion that is not gonna last, unless they wanna fight there once or twice and then come back which I don’t think Dana will react very kindly too.
Do you think Tim and AA are sitting back laughing there asses off a Dana’s last offer to them…
ithink you should think about the merchandise money maybe that has something to do with it i cant imagine many peole wearing a tim sylvia tee soo they payed him a big purse
Is there a weight cap in Affliction?
If so, is anyone worried about Fedor being able to stay under it with the Thousands of new people hanging of his nuts after this weekend?
He’s the best HW in the world for sure, but guys calling him “the best fighter in the world” after beating Tim Sylvia when he hasn’t beat anyone relevant in years is probably very premature.
Especially since The Top fighter in the world fought the same night and layed a huge beating of his own down. (Granted irvin isn’t top 10, but it is outside his weight class)
Funny, true, but also very funny.
a. silva is naturally about 215. so saying 205 is above his weight class is ignorant. the only explanation as to why he chooses to cut 25-30 lbs. so he can fight at a lower weight class is obviously because he’s a little afraid of what some heavyweight and light heavyweight fighters might do to his reputation. bas rutten weighed around 215-220 in his fighting days and never once considered cutting weight. he was confident enough in his abilities that he was willing to take on any fighter, regardless of the weight advantage. men like fedor are the reasons why guys cut weight to fight in a division other than heavyweight!!!
Exactly!!
Sorry douche 4, but most fighters cut a lot of weight these days. By your logic, Matt Hughes’ accomplishments should be flushed down the drain since he walks around at 190+.
Saying someone is ’scared’ based on nothing is ignorant.
People fight in the lowest weight class they are able to fight at, it’s just smart fighting.
Silva would be a small HW, there’s no reason for him to fight there
“Best fighter in the world” is NOT a new way to describe Fedor. He’s been considered that for years. Anderson Silva may prove to share that honor in the history books, but Fedor has seniority.
fedor must be pissed
I would let Fedor beat the crap out of me for 800 grand.
The pitbull had a nice pay day as well.
Rob
http://www.break-your-face.com
More than likely there was some additional pay for Fedor that was paid prior to the card, such as signing bonus, Apparel payments, PPV Bonuses are some possible payments that wouldn’t be included in CSAC numbers that would increase his pay significantly
Eddie is right. Fedor will probably get a cut of the PPV, or some other revenue stream. If he did, it wont show up in those figures.
Fedor must of had some kind of BONUS just to sign for the fight, which is not DISCLOSED. Maybe he got somethign crazy, liek a million dollar signing bonus or something like that……
Because there si no way in hell that his management team would let him fihgt for so much less than Sylvia. They know that Affliction is pushing him and is the heart of the ENTIRE organization. You know that he had to get a hell of a lot more money
WOW! Everybody cries for more MMA competition for the UFC. So here it is in Affliction, and you give Timmy all this grief for taking the money that they were obviously willing to give him.
I doubt Fedor only got $300,000 but if $800,000 is an insane payout (which it is) to Tim, it’s the geniuses at Affliction that should be taking the heat.
We’ve been saying that you can’t just blow huge payouts right out of the gate. If you do, then the other guys ( AA, Barnett, Coutre) will want similar payouts as well.
That is precisely the dillema in keeping a promotion on it’s feet after the first few events, and…there goes any competition ( and more/better fights for us) for the UFC.
Affliction overpaid a lot of people (i.e. Sylvia $800 000)- they can’t keep that up. Prediction : they will have one more card and then “mothball” their promotion.
Tim said he wanted Brock Lesnar type money. Now he’s making tripple what Brock makes. Affliction probibly didn’t have to pay him that much.
what did michael buffer make?
What’s with the few hundred bucks taken off of everyone’s total pay?
looks like tim was the real winner in the fight
I want everyone here to know Tim Sylvia just got paid $22,221 a second for that fight. That big idiot just got paid more in three seconds then most of us will make in a year.
$22,221 dollars a SECOND.
Conspiracy, fixed, Tim taking a fall, whatever you want to call it and however you want to look at it, Tim got paid off. Even if he didn’t get bribed or purposely took a dive, the dude got paid off.
I see people are resurrecting the “Tim took a dive theory” and that somehow explains how he got paid so much money. Another, saner, theory is that Tim Sylvia’s manager is also the owner of M-1 Global, who jointly produced this show. And let’s not forget that a manager always takes a cut of the talent’s fee…
Interesting point.
i want to get paid $800,000 for thirty six seconds in the ring with fedor, i wouldn’t mid getting hit and choked out too!!!
Are there really people out there believing that Fedor made only 300k? Seriously?
This is base salaries. Doesnt factor in signing bonus, PPV bonus, gate bonus, or any other bonus a promotion gives to a fighter.
Its just like Pride 32 where Fedor made a documented 100K and every fighter on the card that was asked about it laughed and said that he made a ton more then that. The UFC does the same thing and admits it to constantly.
Your smarter then this people…
Affliction didnt really pay Fedor the same thing that they paid Matt Lindland. Use your head…
Those are tremendous salaries esp. in comparison to UFC paydays. Affliction will be broke in no time.
In theory, I like the idea of fighters making more money. In realty: 300K for Matt Lindland flailing around gasping for breath? The only way that fighters are going to see better paydays is for the sport to keep gaining in popularity. UFC salaries have been steadily increasing as the company becomes more successful. You can’t just start paying fighters crazy money when the business won’t support it. Affliction is done.
wow affliction would kick ufc’s ass… with these salaries dana would be forced to hike its salaries..but the big problem is they pay so much money on advertising and production..so somtething has to give.and affliction has tons of money to spend…just to break ufc…
one clear blunder is dana not getting fedor…. randy beat tim by a decision and theyre hyping brandon vera who was beaten by tim and fedor beat a 2 time ufc champ by 60 sec…. which means ufc is all hype….hype by dana white…exposed
ill go with affliction… ufc promised us too many things that it would be second to the nba blah blah blah
Silvia got $800,000 for taking a dive in 36 sec.? That adds up to be $67,200,000 per hour!
Had it ever occured to anyone that these numbers might be incorrect. When Fedor was signed it was reported that he would be making well north of $1M. Either that or he has different deals in place with affliction that will pay him the money he desrves. I for one don’t believe for a minute that he wasn’t the highest paid fighter on that card.
I can’t believe they paid Timmy a flat $800,000. If it would have been me I would have paid him something like $200,000 for showing and a $200,000 win bonus. When your getting paid $800,000 win or loose, then who cares if you win!? That’s why he tapped the split second Fedor sunk the choke in. He didn’t even try to struggle to get out of it or anything. Man, where’s his pride? I’m not saying he could have gotten out of it, but at least put up a little struggle.
Wow, some here seem mentally challenges to say the least…
1) Fedor agreed to the sallary - why should he be pissed? He got what he wanted.
2) Finkelstein hinted in an earlier interview that the deal included a cut of either the PPV buys or the gate - I can’t remember what it was.
3) Tim was sent on a suicide mission, seriously: he can have as much money as he wants if he has the balls to get publically dismantled like that.
4) That was not a dive, that was being on the other side of Fedor’s fists. If Tim would have beated Fedor he would have automagically become the man in the business.
BTW, you gotta love that Afflication handed three times UFC’s highest payday to their fighters on their first event.
If anyone should be pissed, its the hundreds of UFC fighters who bang in the octagon every three or four months for $3000-5000.
Those $3-5K fighters in the UFC do not interest Affliction, so why the hell would they be pissed? Plus, they have much stabler job in the UFC. Affliction could go under very soon. It’s worth jumping ship to Affliction if you’re a big name, but otherwise it’s a very risky preposition. You don’t want to burn your bridges with the UFC when you’re just an up-and-comer and have no leverage.
so what was that talk all about of Fedor wanting more $$ and that is why UFC didn’t sign him up..and he ends up getting this mediocre salary at Affliction??!!!
The reason why Fedor did not signed with the UFC was that Dana would not allow him to compete in russia in the Sambo Championships and similiar events. Kinda stupid asking the Sambo World Champion to not compete anymore or participate in russian events where the UFC has not even tapped the market.
It was never about the money with Fedor and the UFC, he said at the time that the UFC were offering him more money than anyone else.
Sylvia is soft i told you! he accepted he would tap and get out of there as soon as he got hit with the first punch.
Really guys, Fedor would not fight for 300k otherwise he would be off to Japan, think just a bit…..please !!!
Affliction won’t be throwing many more events!
wow ben rothwell for $250,000. unreal. trump u da man. b-level ufc fighters better flock to affliction for the cash
Did’nt you ever have a lemonade stand as a kid? You can line the customers up at 5 cents a cup, but if you pay your little sister $10 an hour to help out, YOU GO BROKE!
I don’t care how much cash Trump has, he wants more of it, that’s the whole point. Yeah, yeah, I know, he’s a big MMA fan, but he’s a bigger money fan. They can’t keep these kind of payouts going unless the ppvs are overwheming, and on a consistent basis. If the events won’t turn a profit, Trump and his money will be tapping out.
rothwell AA sylvia probably overpaid
although with those likely to be the flat fees for them, no ppv% no dvd %, no gate %
so that could well be what they used to get when headlining for ufc
fedor must of had some clever clause in his contract
perhaps they get all the ppv and dvd share for the sales in asia and russia
also where is josh barnett
Sylvia’s paydays is a nonsense, same with arlovski, they got 5 times what they used to from ufc, also I am quite sure 300k for fedor is a mistake, maybe 1.300k ?
can’t blame them for going on to greener pastures. Why stay in the UFC and make less and if they have you up for contract put you on the undercard?
How about Arlovski making 750 thousand!!! Wow! A lot of UFC fighters are going to see this and try to capitalize on it. but for how long can M1 and Affliction afford to pay them this cash??
This is a bunch of BS. Fedor definitely made more then Tim sylvia. Also what are you kidding me. IF he took a dive on fedor then he definitely took a dive on couture. I don’t understand why people are saying randy is num# 2 in the world. He beat a top #5 heavy weight and a guy who beat a depressed crocop. I actually like randy and think he is a good guy but I do not think he is num# one or num# 2 in the world. Maybe he is num# 4 right under sylvia. Bottom line is Fedor is the man
Ok you all. I was thinking that maybe Tim took a dive but now I am almost positive that he did. OR…….. which it probably may well be is that Affliction paid him so much, even though he is pretty much washed up and that is the reason UFC didnt push for him so much at the end, is that he is a former UFC champion and would be fighting the man that Affliction will be building there promotion off of. I mean seriously. For the non die hard fans that didnt know Tim wasnt all that cracked up with what he was suppose to be at the end of his UFC days, when you hear that Fedor dismantles him in 30 seconds or whatever and he is a former 2 time UFC champion you will actually start to think, man Affliction is the bomb now. I know Fedor is great but Tim isnt nearly as good as him or even half of the UFC heavyweights. That is why Affliction paid him so much, to just basically come there, get his ass kicked, and maybe just maybe he puts on a good show and makes Fedor and Affliction look all that much better. But like I said to the outside fans or up and commer fans this looks remarkable what Fedor did. That is why they paid Tim so much to come there and that is it. Smart business move by Affliction but to true fans, not that great of a match up nor that great of spending money.
This company will hold true on their 3 promotions and then afterwards I dont think there will be anymore Affliction with that much money being spent. This is also why Dana has stated that you dont just jump in the business and think it is going to succeed. It definitely wont happen like this believe me.
Or then again, maybe just maybe, he was paid to take a dive, or Tim just decided to go down so easy with already getting guaranteed 800K. Any of these scenarios seem very plausible. I know all of you Fedor fans dont think of it like that but this is probably true. I also think he is a great fighter but would be much much much more richer and his popularity would have been so much more in the UFC. Plain and simple. Also what it boils down to. Fedor wanted to sign a one fight deal with the UFC and also be able to fight outside the UFC after that one fight in the UFC. So in defense of Dana think of it like this. If Fedor beats Couture in that one super fight, and Randy is supposedly the one true heavyweight champion of the UFC, then he basically takes the UFC belt with him to another promotion if he chooses. That is how it looks to all fans then. That is all cool and everything, but then the UFC belt or interim belt or whatever just means nothing anymore. It was a smart move on Dana’s side of business not to sign this man to a one fight deal but would made the way more sense for the UFC to sign him to a multi fight deal, like 5-6. Would have been great money for that one pay per view but afterwards with a loss by Randy would basically meant an end to the UFC. It is just common sense you all. No real thinking involved. Larger contract for more fights with the UFC should have been the way to go for Fedor for his pockets and his popularity. Plain and simple….. Anthony
I must be honest, I stopped reading your post in the 1st paragraph when you said
“I know Fedor is great but Tim isnt nearly as good as him or even half of the UFC heavyweights.”
Tim isn’t better than half of the UFC HW’s, meaning that more than half of the UFC HW roster would beat Sylvia on a consistant basis???? WTF are you smoking, please pass me some.
Timmy is the #4 HW in the world. Big Nog is #3. That is the only HW fighter in the UFC that can beat Tim Sylvia. I don’t even think the current Frank Mir can beat him again.
I will guess that there are about 20 HW’s on the UFC roster. Please go ahead and name me at least 11 of them that would beat Sylvia at least 7 times out of 10.
Yeah!!! What he said
I don’t think Trump cares that much about giving Fedor 1 mil under the table. This was a great card. Maybe the UFC could find someway to make their shows that good. It would be like GSP vs. Penn
Silva vs. Liddell
Shogun vs. Wanderlei
Nog vs. Randy
All on the same card.
Are you comparing the Sylvia/Fedor matchup to a GSP/Penn, or Silva/Liddel matchup. If so, thats crazy. What matchup on the Affliction card would even be close to those?
No what i’m saying is that maybe the UFc should put on a card that has a bit more to offer than 1 fight per show worth watching. I mean c’mon Hughes vs. Alves as the main event. Bisping vs. Leben. Liddell vs. Evans. These are pathetic main event fights. If you think otherwise you need to get your head examined.
why did sylvia get paid 800,000? i was there, and he didn’t connect with a single punch. in fact, he didnt even throw a punch. he got beat up for 36 seconds and made $800,000 for it. thats the lamest thing i’ve ever heard. fedor should have been making that money, not sylvia.
tim sylvia better be giving that money back, in my opinion he didnt earn it.
its nad to think the maniac made 4 times as much as the spyda made no ones really mentioned this
what trump is doing is what other huge businesses are doing…if you read the business in mma..the financial part says that ufc had a huge loan for expansion and it only broke even in2007.. so they would be making theyre net income in 2008 only…and thats when the big businesses come in…they would pounce on you because they have the CASH to do so..the ufc was the one who worked hard 15 years to build it (8 years with the fertitas)
now that there is going to be money everybody jumps to it..theyre mission… get the money…offer more for the fighters and the fighters would jump ship..if the ufc resists the big businesses would just compete to piss them off and destroy it basically(imAGINE Hiking the pay and ufc hikes as well to the point both of them are not making any money) thats business
It’s great to see the fighters at Affliction getting what they deserve, monetarily. I hate the fact that the UFC makes huge money and pays a pittance to the fighters. I’d like to see the figures: gross profit versus gross fighter payments annually for the UFC. It is rare that the fighters get anything more than 20% of the gross door profit which is regularly around $5 million. When you factor in PPV buys it becomes obscene. If the average UFC ppv event brings in approx $40 million gross in ppv and door profit, the total gross for UFC is around $600 million per year. If you lay this up against fighter payments which in a very generous year is maybe $20 million. The fighters see 3.3% of the gross profit…………. It’s a disgrace………. If you looked at any other well established professional sport, player payments would be at least 10 times this much. It is time the fighters banned together and created a fighters union. My political leanings are to the right but i know when people are being exploited.
there is no way fedor got 300k, he was given the rest under the table for tax purposes. fedor is by the far the best heavy weight mma fighter in the world. lets see what couture can do- i predict fedor by TKO in the first round.
what a pretty penny
blessed are those fighters