Props: Sacramento Bee
Quoteworthy:
“He’s a scary dude…. It was a flash knockout, because I didn’t know what hit me after that. Even waking up, I was covered in blood. He got me right on the money tonight…. I don’t think I’ll have another (chance) as big as this.”
It was a blistering overhand right punch that came blazing down Broadway, James, which was then followed up with a few head bouncers.
Thanks to Tracy Lee at CombatLifestyle.com for the image.
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I just can’t figure out why nobody else wanted to fight Silva on short notice….
I can, the UFC does not have a very good medical insurance package lol
Anderson vs. Fedor. ANYBODY who tries to beat Anderson standing is getting KTFO. I honestly think that GSP with his strength, athletic ability and amazing wrestling would have the best chance to beat him. It may sound crazy to say that the current 170 lb. champion would have a better chance than anyone at 205 but what do you think would happen to Liddell or Vanderlei or Griffen if they fought Anderson.
Also, I wasn’t joking about the Fedor vs. Anderson. Who else could TEST Anderson. It is getting a little ridiculous and it really is not good for the sport when you have those kind of wins one after another. I don’t dislike Anderson. I just want to see him in a friggin fight.
I say the same thing. Then I watch Travis Lutter beat on him when they fought and I wonder who can consistently take this guy down, stay aggressive, and not be caught in a sub.
At 205: Thiago Silva and maybe Machida (thats a big maybe)
At 185: Not a soul
At 170: GSP and maybe Alves (he will try to stand and bang and that could likely be bad!)
Not looking for bashing, this is just my opinion!
Not trying to bash, but where do you think alves would even have a chance? He is a striker and would get demolished.
He has better Jui Jitsu than he has ever had to show. He is Brazilian so that aspect of his game just hasn’t showed.
I would give Chuck, Wandy, and Rampage a much better chance of beating Anderson than Machida. Machida is a striker with half the ko power of the 3 I mentioned. Machida’s biggest threat is speed, which goes out the window against Anderson.
I honestly expect to see Thiago beat Machida. I would also expect Chuck and Rampage to beat Machida as well, but I give Wandy the best chance (style wise) to really do some damage against Machida.
Silva is one of the best fighters in the world, but he would look like Irvin if u put him up against Fedor. That doesnt mean that Fedor is the better fighter, your expectations are just too high! How can u expect the best middleweight of all time to beat the Best Heavyweight of all time? that just CANT happen, and its silly to even speculate about Fedor vs. Silva!
Silva walks around at 215-220. Fedor at 230-235. Rich Franklin said clinching with Silva felt like clinching with Tim Sylvia. Do you really think that Fedor would have an advantage in the strength or power department?
If Fedor stood with Silva he would get dismantled. Could Fedor take Silva down, dominate him and GNP or submit him? I don’t know but would like to find out.
Rich Franklin is a middleweight. Fedor throws heavyweight like Nogueira (a huge dude) and Tim Sylvia around like Rag Dolls.
There size maybe very close to each others, but dont be fooled and think that Silva has anywhere close to the power that Fedor has. It doesnt make Fedor better than Silva because expecting Silva to beat Fedor is just an unrealistic expectation. Believe it or not, there are weight classes for a reason. Best middleweight of all time, will not beat the best Heavyweight of all time!
your 100% correct, jsut because Silva beat James Irvin does NOT make him able to beat Fedor. Fedor blew thorugh Tim Sylvia and put a beating on Big Nog twice. Come on, Silva is great, but he aint beating Fedor maybe once out of 10 times.
Fedor would KILL Spider…not even close. His takedowns are unreal, and if Lutter can get Spider down and into a sub…Fedor would break something off
I agree with Adam except for i love to see the spider killing people.Irvin didnt know what hit him,it was andersons omnipresent fist!!!!!!!!Only my other 2 favorite fighters Roger huerta and GSP have a chance against this beautiful,amazingly talented demon in the octagon.THE FIGHT WAS CRAZY!i am still hoarse from screaming in joy after The spider put it down!
Huerta is a 155 pound fighter. Walks around about 175-180. Way too small to get in the octagon with Anderson.
Anybody notice the look on the faces of the guys when they are walking in to face Anderson? I can’t wait to see the look on the next guy’s face. GSP will have the towel ready when Cote’s face starts getting rearranged.
He better take some wrestling lessons from GSP real fast.
GSP is a freak! This guy really never had any competitive wrestling experience and now he is one of the best wrestlers in the UFC. He out wrestled Matt Hughes, Koscheck, and I bet he out wrestles Fitch. Just insane how athletic talent can turn into such a well rounded game.
Huerta can hold his own against Spider???
HA, thanks for the laugh
Go jackoff to your SI cover of your over-rated Huerta, he is getting subbed by Ken-Flo round 1…Fedor vs. Sylvia style
LOL. MMAnut, you stole my thunder.
Florian will expose Huerta. First he will open him up and then the blood will be spurting via RNC. Huerta bareley got past Guida who dominated before Huerta caught him and locked on the RNC.
GO SPIDER.I LOVE HIM MORE AND MORE EACH TIME!!!!!!!
Adam I know you’re a smart guy and very knowledgeable in MMA. I generally agree with you, but I have to ask what’s wrong with a monstrous, dominating champion? We can look at Matt Hughes in the past for one, or Fedor right now, among many other MMA fighters as an example of a dominant champ that is great for the sport.
The Patriots, Muhammed Ali, the Celtics, the Yankees, and most notably Tiger Woods all demonstrate people love a dominant, unchallengable champ from time to time. (no i’m not saying the 2000 era Pats are as good as Ali or Wilt’s Celtics, just making the point that extreme dominance can drive a sport to new heights.
It draws many more casual fans to a sport, it gives hardcore fans a constant debate, and it makes it so very awesome when they finally lose.
I do agree that it’d be nice to see the Spider or the Last Emperor tested, but it’s hard to think it’s bad for the sport.
I also think that having a dominating force on top of a division makes the sport evolve from the competitors’ standpoint. Just as the West Coast Offense made the NFL grow and change, Royce Gracie and then Matt Hughes did the same in their time reigning MMA. Being on top of the sport without challenge forces everyone to rethink, retrain, and bring new weapons into the cage.
How can you say most notably Tiger Woods. Did you see his last win at the open? He doesn’t win every time or even most of the time and the Patriots and Celtics didn’t win every game in lopsided fashion. All that I am saying is that I want to see someone who can go to war with Silva. I honestly feel that ALL of the 185’s and 205’s in the UFC are scared to death of Anderson. They might not admit it but they are. Who wants to see Cote, Bisping or Okami get brutalized by Silva. He completely toyed with Franklin and then said that Rich was his toughest fight to date. Are you freakin kidding me? I guarantee you that Machida is thanking his lucky stars that they are such “good buddies”. If Nogeira (yes the UFC heavyweight champion) fought Anderson in the cage he would take the fight to the ground faster than you could blink. It’s a good thing that they are good friends also.
I said Tiger b/c of his unquestioned dominance of his sport. You make a good point that he doesn’t win every single time (thought the Celtics sure won a lot of rings in a row) but his dominance is unquestioned.
That aside, after your first two sentences I agree with EVERYTHING you said. I was only taking issue with you positing that it’s bad for the sport of butt kicking to have someone so great at kicking butt in it.
I would also like to add to your second question an answer: ME! I would like to see Bisping get brutalized by Silva. I’d also like to see Silva fight Vanderlei, Henderson and Liddell. Even seeing him fight Rashad would be fun to watch. I don’t mind seeing the Spider crush dudes as long as they’re not cans.
Just to sum up, I agree with 98% of what you’re saying. The 2% is that it’s bad for the sport to have a dominant, superman style champion. I notice instead of responding to most of my points, you said more things I agree with about how scary Anderson is.
I think it’s realistic that in 2 years he may be ready to go HW. He used to fight at 165, right?
I was agreeing with everything you were saying and then I saw “Wilt’s Celtics”. Can somebody please get this guy an NBA handbook!
thank you J&M, i was scrolling down like what the f is this kid talking about, but you took care of it
Damm-IT J&M, I can’t believe I typed that. I was debating between Bill Russel or Wilt in my head for the example and made the sort of cedibility smashing typo that I may never recover from, and all Celtics, 76ers, and Lakers are all now mad at me forever to boot.
Man I wish there was an edit button on this.
Fedor would eat Silva. They are both fantastic, but you have to be realistic.
Also as much of a fan I am of GSP I do not like his chances againsy Silva.
lets give anderson a few contenders besides the sandman before we start throwing spider vs fedor. we still need to see him fight the wanderleis, ruas, lidells, machidas, rampages and win to solidify such a fight with fedor. FEDOR dominated a top 5 heavyweight in tim. ALL HAIL KING FEDOR to all the naysayers prior to his fight, including dana king.
GSP couldn’t hang with Silva, while GSP has awesome standup, he can’t take a punch as well as Silva can. It would be lights out for GSP.. his best chance would be to take him down and lay n’ pray much like he did against BJ Penn.
Spider is THE BADDEST ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!! AND IF YOU THINK DIFFERENT YOU SHOULD BE SHOT.
fedors a pussy, if he paid silva to lose he wud win then..
He turtled up with the Quickness
IF SILVA vs. GRIFFIN HE WOULD EASLY HOLD BOTH BELTS AT THE SAME TIME. NO ONE AT 205 HAS “ALL” THE SAME SKLLS AS SILVA.
Griffen would get completely destroyed and the scary thing is that deep down he knows it.
Concur. I like Forrest, but for the moment, he’s nothing more than a place holder.
absolutely, forrest is nowhere near the skill level of anderson silva, he will get ktfo in 1 round
i think forrest would be smart and just run around and outpoint anderson like he did rampage.. i got a feeling the only way to beat anderson is the machida way and frustrate him, or catch him with something so ridiculous he’s never seen it before (flying heel hook style) lol and i got a feeling that if machida is the 205 champ and has his division cleaned out, and anderson has destroyed cote,and okami we will see that fight.. both guys will want the money and want best p4p status and respect for each other to do it..
The problem with that is that Anderson wouldn’t let him run away. Maybe if they open the cage door. Otherwise he would stalk forrest down and destroy him. Forrest’s iron chin would get crumpled.
forrest has an iron chin?
I think Keith Jardine slighly tested that iron chin.
You mean tin chin.
Silva needs a superfight while he is in his prime and starting to reach some mainstream popularity. DON’T WASTE THE BEST FIGHTER OF OUR GENERATION ON FIGHTS WITH PATRICK COTE!! Put him with Forrest or give him a fight with St Pierre at a catch weight. There are great matchups out there but not in his division so transition him out of the middleweights or start sending top welterweights or lightheavys into the middleweight division.
What is Forrest going to do to Anderson? After seeing up close what Anderson did to Irvin when Irvin tried to leg kick him, he’ll be scared to death to throw one.
Dana can throw the iceman in the cage with Anderson and watch him get toyed with.
lol do you really think that? iceman lose to silva? what kind of drugs are you on and where can i get some!?!?!
honestly, I think Liddell would have a GREAT chance, but it would be very possible for Chuck to lose that fight. This is actually a fight that I want to see bad being such a huge Liddell fan. I think Chuck would match up better than anyone else against Silva so far. Hes got good striking, great power, great chin, great counter punching, takedonw defense, plus hes about the same size and anderson 6′2 and lanky limbs, but Chuck is definately the wider/heavier guy. Irvin has a more small/compact frame.
Side note, Chuck has actually admited that he likes to watch Silva fight and that he is very impressed by him. When asked about how he thought he would match up with the Spider he said something like he thinks it would be a good matchup, but that he would be a little too mch for Silva. Bring this fight on!
Chuck got ko,d by rampage,rampage is a bad man , but not on the A.Silva level. Chuck would get destroyed.
Lol…Roger Huerta sucks! He will get demolished by Kenflo. Come on! He barely made it with guida and I really hated his remarks saying that that was the way “mexicans” fought – with heart and til the end. What a loser! He got lucky with a fluky win over Clay. But with Kenflo it will definitely will be different. He wont even get passed the second round.
Now concerning Lidell and Anderson Silva…Lidell is going out of the sport. A lot of fighters are finding Lidell’s number; and I can assure you that Silva already has it. Silva would destroy him. Just take a look a his fight with Jardin and Wanderlei…He barely made it. Even Wanderlei knocked him down – great war, but I’d give Lidell a split decision on Wandy fight. But against Anderson Silva, Lidell won’t get pass the second round – guaranteed!!!!!!
Alright, GSP & BJ Penn would be a great fight. This time, I think BJ Penn will win. GSP has improved, but compared to the prodigy, he still lacks the natural abilities Penn posseses. Plus, Penn is more accurate and advanced in his striking than GSP is. I’d say Penn will make history ruling both the lightweight & welterweight Division – and who knows, maybe even the middleweight division. It would be cool for him to rule 3 divisions. I think he’s got the potential to do so. Alrighty then, see y’all!
I would love to see Dan Henderson and Silva at 205. Yes I know Silva won already, and I expect he would again, but a pretty sweet thing to see the 205 guy go down to 185 and then the 185 guy go up to 205. No one seems to talk about how dominant Dan was for so long, in 2 classes.
That’s what Anderson wants to do now, so let’s have an official passing of the torch ceremony with this fight!
Oh yeah, I should be Joe Silva’s intern.
dan doesn’t have a chance to beat anderson silva in any weight class..
how long, you say, was Dan so dominant in two classes?
anytime you can hold 2 diff weight titles at the same time is dominant enough in my book. lets not forget hendo completely took round 1 so you saying hendo not having a chance in a rematch is such a bogus comment.
the only competition and relastic fight that will happen in 205 for anderson silva is rampage or wandy he wont fight machida or nog because there real close i would love to see him fight either page or wandy because it would be a stand up war
What part of stand up wars with Anderson Silva don’t you understand? They do not last long. I don’t give a darn who is standing in front of him or how much they weigh. Anderson has to get GNP’s or submitted. Throw Frank Mir in there and have him pull guard as soon as they touch gloves.
Do you think that Wanderlei or Rampage would have eaten that punch any better? They would go nighty night also. Send them into the ring with a helmet if you want a good stand up war.
i don’t think rampage or wandi would have eaten that punch. rampage doesn’t kick much and wandi never stays still. it takes a meat head like irvin to eat a punch like that
LOL I actually can picture that happening!
I agree, the few times anderson lost was when he was on the bottom and on side control (a long time ago though, before Nog came along). I don’t care who you are, if you think you’re better striker than the spider be prepared to get KO’d or TKO’d. Best chances are on the ground, even though his BJJ is crazy!
LINX…..I agree with you “SILVA” he acts like he does not know what he is doing on the ground but he beat jeremy horn on the ground in pride, worked over travis lutter, “SILVA” has skills anywhere you wanna take the fight he has skills!
On the ground is where a few fighters have a skill set that could possibly take him out. On the feet, forget about it. Unless you have a rolling heel hook like Ryo Chonan a long time ago, hang it up on your feet.
Put him in there with Kevin “The Claw” Burns. Kev would beat Silva three stooges style.
LOL
i don’t think his BJJ is off the charts, he did get mounted by lutter… and then triangled him
i don’t think irvin is much of a test. He should probably be at 185 anyway now that’s he’s off the roids ( think he’s always been clean got back a few fights of his and compare his two completly different bodies.) irvin got KOed on a very basic move in muai ti. catch the kick through punches while holding the leg. i think there are fighters at both weights (185 205) that have the skill sets to beat him.
Rob, who at 185 do you think? Not disagreeing just interested as to who you think can pull it off.
that wasnt even a very solid hit, one arm holding his leg… irvin lost all respect from me last night
Please pass that dutch. Silva threw a perfect straight right on the money.
When you watch the replay of the leg catch and punch, it looks like something out of the Matrix. Anderson is the essence of calm fluidity amidst the chaos of battle.
I agree with a lot said…
Anderson owns 185, anderson would have a good chance at owning 205, anderson would have a shot a winning a heavyweight but it would be tough to be consistent.
It seems the only way to beat him is probably to try to GNP the guy, it also seems like if you stand up with him he is probably going to win 95% of those fights.
In my humble opinion:
1. GSP vs Anderson — Anderson wins KO
2. Anderson vs Rampage, W Silva, Shogun, Chuck (anderson wins 75-80% of the time
3. Fedor vs Anderson — Fedor wins
(lets face it, Fedor reminds me of an angry bear that you just pissed off in the forest. And you aren’t a grown man, you are a 5 year old kid running around in the forest and that angry bear is coming at you.) Fedor’s speed/strength/rounded ability is tough for guys 40 lbs heavier, so I can’t imagine a smaller guy hanging in there with him. Could anderson win? YES. If they fought ten times anderson might win between 2-4, but I think it would be closer to 2 and I think he would have to have great striking displays.
BOTH GUYS are amazing!
i think that before we start talking about spider being god he needs atleast beat a top 10 LHW if not top 5. but really beating james “the whackman” irvin doesnt make me think hes the best although very impressive win..believe me it would be alot different with some top 205 guys.
i think that shogun prolly has the best chance
wandi- andersons reach would be too much
chuck- to 1 dimensional
rampage- same as chuck..if it goes to the ground IF anderson wanted to he could fairly easily submit them
thiago- hasnt really proven himself enough for me to know how good he really is
machida-prolly will never fight each other
shogun- has all the same skills as anderson prolly not as quick but has more strenth and punching power
dude i wish people would shut up about shogun.
i think its fuckin histarical that everyone says forest would get whooped and shogun could probobly beat him. BS!!!
incase you forgot forest spanked shoguns overhyped ass then he beat rampage…but oh no you guys are so right…he isnt that good. i for one belive that griffin has a great chance to win.but i wouldnt bet money on him against silva…
oh and please people save it… i dont feel like get bashed about oh shogun was injured or he barley beat page( i agree,very close fight but the fact is that he won)
im just saying,give forest the respect he deserves he beat th two #1 LHW in a row..so…what does that make him….
i dont see Forrest Griffin holding that belt for long….i dont see anyone it the LHW class holding the belt for long either, that class is stacked with so many good fighters that the belt is just bound to float around!
props, Forrest deserves his credit no doubt!!
Anderson who at the moment seems unbeatable?? yes?? I believe the same has been said for many fighters throughout the years until BANG!! Then the debates start in a different direction.
Anderson is a quality exciting fighter, however he beat Franklin who is a good 185er, the division is pretty weak in comparison to the 205 division, Rich wouldnt beat many 205ers!! My point is, the fights for Anderson to truly prove himself as pfp the best are as follows
1. A Silva v Chuck (ossom fight, i go for the ICEMAN)
2 A Silva v Rampage ( Very hard to call, Rampage has great chin)
3 A Silva v Griffin ( Again hard to say, Prob A Silva via knockout)
4 A Silva v Wanderlei ( Styles make fights??)
5 A Silva v Shogun ( very similiar in styles)
6 A Silva v T Silva ( Not saw enough of Thiago yet to compare)
7 A Silva v Machida ( Prob wont happen)
at the moment these are the fights that have to happen for the sanity of the fans,we need to know who is the best!! Anderson proves nothing now by staying at 185, other than how to kick some not so skilled ass. Get to 205 and we will find out who is the best, it wont be a walk in the park for nobody, FEDOR included!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fedor is a much better fighter then Anderson will ever be.
bree marquez, you must be delusional if you think Roger Huerta could hang with Silva if weight was not a factor. He was getting worked by Clay Guida (no slouch, but not a top contender either) until he pulled it out in the end.
K-Flo will dominate him. MARK MY WORDS!!!
as much as i love huerta and i really will be pulling for him…i must agree with you…kenny wins first or second round GnP or tapout…lets pray im wrong
1) anderson silva and fedor would be a good contest both are WRECKING MACHINES , fedor is a great slugger the way he bashed sylvia and had tim hiding from the hammer fists , knowing tim is slow he got his back easy end of story , and anderson silva well the man is a huge middleweight and light heavy weight , me and my buddy were debating , he won’t fight nog or machida they are camp buddies and dominate, but anderson like they said waits about a minute dictates the pace then a minute in explodes on people , he is killer on the ground killer standing up your only shot is catching him with a lucky left field punch , but isn’t happening . irvan did absolutely nothing wrong in that fight , he threw a lightning fast kick and it was almost as if silva saw it in slow motion caught and blasted him out the octagon , it was sick . liddell is a counter fighter , liddell would get owned , and silva wants machida to have the belt which i’m interested to see how thaigo silva deals with him . credit to fedor and credit to anderson walking monsters . fedor vs silva would be a very fun fight to watch just to see the skills and outcome , fedor is quick as all fuck with submissions thats why he’s tough and anderson is tough as hell standing and can knock your block off real quick as shown last night
OK i will admit silva is a great champion,i just cant believe most people thinks he cant lose other then to fedor.First of all fedor and silva will never fight just a fantasy match up.Remember Matt Hughes he dominated his class for a long time no one thought he could lose look at where he is now.There will be a person to get the belt from silva just a matter of time whoever beats him will have to beat him twice!Which could be a daunting task.If AFFLICTION is around in 2 years they will have the best fighters because they get paid!!!i wouldnt mind getting in the ring with fedor for 800k who wouldnt.
I feel kind of bad for Irvin. He’s fought mostly b level fighters. Then he gets top class world class grade A talent. You could tell that he wasn’t used to that sort of speed and reaction. Give him some fights against quality talent and become more well rounded and he could start giving the big names a run for the money. That kind of baptism by fire isn’t even fair.
he has to earn the oppurtunity. he has fought several b level fighters. This isn’t his first rodeo.
With the injury to Okami and the fact there is no outright number one cotender at 185, I don’t think it makes sense for Anderson to defend the MW belt during the remainder of the year. Who is deserving of a shot? Who would give him a challenge? No-one in my opinion. The likes of Cote, Bisping and Kampmann need one or two tough fights before they can justify a title shot in my eyes. So I think Anderson has time to focus on making waves in the LHW division. How do the rest of you view the light-heavyweight picture & how many fights do you think Anderson is away from a LHW title shot? Here’s what I think…
1)Forrest Griffin
Anderson Silva?
2)Chuck Liddell vs 7) Rashad Evans
3)Lyoto Machida vs 5) Thiago Silva
6)Wanderlei Silva vs
4)Rampage
So with uncertainty surrounding Rampage’s future, I would say there are 6 fighters in the frame for a title shot as we speak. And with 2 fights already confirmed (Liddell-Evans & Machida-Silva). The next logical step for Anderson is to face Wanderlei in my eyes. This could take place in October. The 3 winners from those bouts become top 3 contenders. So I would predict Anderson is potentially two fights away from a title shot, if he beats Wanderlei and winner of Machida/Silva on the proviso Chuck beats Rashad.
Forget about Rampage. Forget what you know of him. He is lucky nobody was killed. You won’t be seeing him anytime soon, if at all.
. . . another bites the dust
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What a bozo! With his tough talk, macho bravado, silly hand gestures, and stupid American flag all over the place. Typical meat head! It was clear even before he entered the ring, who is the top class fighter. With bit of humility and respect he may have lasted couple of more seconds…, hope that teaches him something about reverence. I was so happy to see him go down so fast, and I hope he knows, that this would be the outcome in 10 other times he would fight Silva if he’d ever dared to try again…