UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva making his light heavyweight debut against James Irvin in a non-title bout on Spike TV for free …
… or former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia taking on the last man to hold the Pride FC heavyweight strap, Fedor Emelianenko, on pay-per-view (PPV).
What are YOU going to do this Saturday, July 19? Tell the world in the comments section below.
Reminder: MMAmania.com will provide LIVE updates and results from both events here (UFC Fight Night 14: “Silva vs. Irvin”) and here (Affliction: “Banned”).
July 17th, 2008
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ufc, cheapin out.
This is a NO brainer in my mind….Affliction all the way!
Good heavyweights are hard to find and this card is just too stacked with most of the top guys in the weight class, that I cant pass this card up.
IMO this is a very Big Deal.
Just heard Trump on ESPNews…Promoting Affliction, he is the man, at the end of the interview he said Affliction is basically backed by a bunch of Ritch guys and we are going to have some fun with this….He’s the man, if I was in his position i would be doing the same thing!
My thoughts on Saturday nights REAL MAIN EVENT, Fedor/Sylvia
I was going through my Pride dvd’s all week, and man am I hyped. There is no fighter I would rather watch than Fedor.
His submissions and ground n pound get most of the praise, but people seem to under rate his stand up. He is NAST standing. He has a mean (leading hand) left hook that is very explosive, and he usually follows it up with some great combos: Hooks/uppercutts to the head and body of his opponents, also his leg kicks and body kicks are outstanding. Tim wont present anything that Fedor hasnt seen before…He already knocked off Semmy Shilt who IMO is a better version of Tim Sylvia. Look to the Couture/Sylvia fight….Tim was so worried about being taken down by Randy that he left himself wide open and let Randy outstrike him, and if we are being honest, Coutures stand up is pathetic when compared to Fedor’s…Randy lacks the power/speed/ that Fedor has in the stand up. If Tim was so scared to get taken down by randy, then he will be petrified of going to the ground against Fedor who has a ground n pound, so brutal that I really cant compare it to anyone elses….on top of that Fedor’s submissions are world class….I expect Tim to be frieghtened of being taken down (as he should be) which should make it pretty easy for Fedor to bang him up in the stand up until he gets the fight to the ground…then its…GAME OVER!!!!!
Intangibles: Go to Fedor! Why, simple, he is just a stone cold winner. Thats what he does, He flat out wins, he has that “It factor”. He wins every scramble always landing in a good position.
He handles the nerves so much better than most of his opponents. Come Saturday when they are both in the ring, Fedor will be calm and cool as Ice (business as usual) and if anyone thinks that Tim isnt going to be filled with Nerves and some doubt, then they are sadly dillusional!
QUESTION: Did anyone catch Cung Le’s interview opn ESPN the other day? I missed it, I would like to know if he said anything about his fighting career?…not so interested in his movie roles
john, you are forgeting that Fedors takedowns are pathetic compared to Randy’s. Also ,just like BJ believes licking the blood of his opponents,lets him steal there strength, well Sylvia believes licking their semen does the same. Tim will now also have AA’s strengths, so Fedor is done. LOL.
Not saying it’s gonna happen, but I wonder if Fedor could get up after being dumped on his head by a guy that’s 6′8″.
Sorry Gord. Fedor is far from done. Fedor will win this one. Sylvia is just too lacking when it comes to beating the monster that is Fedor…
i am going for the UFC card. It will be more exciting and it has my more favourite fighters
Dana White Comments On Rampage Situation
By Jason Perkins | July 17, 2008
Dana White Comments On Rampage SituationUFC president Dana White was a guest on the Los Angeles based KLOS-FM morning show and made the following comments on the Rampage situation:
“I’m actually here right now, I’m in Southern California,” said White. “I’ve been dealing with this all day yesterday, I haven’t really gotten to the bottom of this yet. I don’t know what I’m going to do about it yet. Last night when he got out, Rampage is very religious…yeah I’m dealing with it.”
One of the hosts of the show asked if Rampage would be fined for his behavior:
“It’s not really about a fine,” said White. “At the end of the day, we care about these guys. A lot of these guys are our friends. I want to find out what’s wrong with Rampage and get him taken care of.”
I respect Dana for his actions following Page’s fiasco.
me too!
Respect Dana!!!
Alot of promoters would just drop the guy, good show Dana, now get Diaz back.
Dana did the right thing by going to bat for his fighter. It shows that he really does care for his guys. We all have to remember just how busy Dana is…especially 2 days before a major event. But what does he do, he drops everything and fly’s out to be with his fighter who’s in trouble.
Mad respect Dana…
Now in response to Johns comments about Fedors game plan. I HIGHLY doubt Fedor will be doing much standing with Timmeh once he relizes that his arms are about a foot shorter then tims. If Fedor comes in to this fight and tries to showcase standup…then we will be watching Tim put on the Wamma belt. I dont care how good his lead hand is since Tim will be using his long ass leg kicks and his jab to make sure Fedor “lead hand” is a non issue. Fedor will look to fake a shot and go for the take down. I really think Tim poses a great problem for Fedor. This is going to be fight of the year. Tims takedown def. and reach will force Fedor to change his gameplan from most fights.
Dana knows he needs to turn his fighter-relations-management style around.
glad to see he’s starting to realize that. he needs his employees to stay loyal to the UFC.
great coaching Lorenzo!!!
lol.
god can I look at any post today without John all over the affliction card… it’s crap except for 2 fights… it’d be like the UFC putting all thier champions against the weakest people in the division and making it a pay per view..great you’re pumped up for it b/c you want to get with Fedor but we dont’ care
you’re right kory, every fight is already done except one. I’ve been saying this for months!
U complain that Affliction is putting champions vs. Bums, well wake up you UFC nutthugger, that is what the main event is on the UFC UFN event! But since u saw Irvin Ko Houston (who is probably your favorite fighter) and u heard a couple of Irvin’s interviews the past couple of weeks, u suddenly feel like he is a worthy competitor to what people say is the best P4P fighters in the world. Learn to differenatiate between what is true, and what is marketing. Fools like u that just drink the company kool aid all day, are a marketers DReam… Like we say in Italy….A boca, A boca!
I’d have to disagree John, Irvin is not a “bum”. He has crazy power, and only 3 of his fights have gone to decision. He’s a formidable opponent believe it or not.
this is coming from the guy who swore Rampage was KOing Forrest in the 1st lol. Give it up this is MMA and ANYTHING CAAAAAN Happen!!!!
john since I didn’t even mention UFN I think you’re making yourself look pretty silly. Not to mention you can’t compare the two since one is free and the other you have to pay money to see. I said the next pay per view for UFC and if they actually did what afliction was doing they would get ripped apart.. good try lil man
LMFAO at your name!!!
yeah you have been saying alot of things for months kevin, just remember our bet and don’t welch out and we will see after the event how bad or good it was.
The problem here John is your comparring the UFC and the Affliction card when most of the things people want to use to seperate the cards only points out what is the same in the card. For example what do you think they are doing with Arlovski and Sylvia? They are marketing them becasue they are well known in the UFC and this is how they want to build their company. Afflicition is trying to do something great and I understand that but you shouldn’t be cramming it down peoples throats and saying they would be hurting MMA if they don’t purchase it. Honestly why should I purchase something when I believe I know the winner of most of the fights and know I can catch it for free later on? Why pay $40 for something when I can get a similar product for free? I just don’t get it, not to mention that the UFC has their fights on again immediately following Affliction giving the fans the chance to see both. You also forget that the whole world does not have supreme cable with 3 dvrs per room man. I can’t throw $1500 on a fight and lose it and be good to go like a lot of the guys on this site are doing. If I lost that kind of money I would be forced to give up MMA. This is apples to oranges do you want to save some money because lets face it both of these cards we basicly figure Silva and Fedor are going to win, Vera and Arlovski are going to win. Also man do you see how much you market for Affliction? You are basicly Afflictions whole marketing campaign I swear. Best of luck to Affliction cause I will watch their fights and I do hope they do good but I don’t need to dish out another $40 for it.
Irvin is a very exciting fighter, but if you are going to try and sit here and tell me that he deserves a fight with who you all label the best pound 4 pound fighter in the world, then you are all crazy! Can Irvin win the fight, Absolutely, its MMA and he has 1 hell of a punchers chance…but to say that he deserves to be fighting a top pound for pound fighter when he isnt even a top 10 Light Heavyweight is disturbing! Get a CLUE!!!
I actually bet on Irvin, so of course I think he has a shot at winning….That doesnt mean I feel he deserves to fight the Spider.
If Irvin wins it will be a Collosal upset…up there with Serra over GSP. The odds are 7-1 HELLO!!!!
The fight wont mean anything, because if Silva gets upset, it wont change ANYTHING!!! He will still be champion and this fight will be reduced to a hyped up exhibition fight. It may be exciting, but it means NOTHING!!~!!
Affliction is providing us with 2 top 5 Heavyweights that could never fight against each other before, in a 5 round fight.. What is wrong with you people. Do u not know who Fedor is? This is a relevant fight to mma!
This is a real main event!
I would rather see Silva defend his title against the Boring Yushin Okami, in what is actually RELEVANT fight, then have Silva vs. Irvin….Entertaining, yet pointless!
U people are all dislexic. I bet on Irvin, HELLO!! THat means I think he has a shot…..That in NO WAY means that he deserves to be fighting the spider.
I cant believe its even a comparison in some of your eyes. I think Affliction is the Obvious choice!
To each his own!
You’re hyping up Fedor like he’s meant something the last couple years. I much rather watch someone fight (Silva) who has been EXTREMELY relevant the last 2 years, and now that he’s cleaned up the MW division he’s fighting a strong 205 KO power guy just to challenge himself and solidify his greatness (even though it doesn’t “mean” anything to you).
Sorry Silva vs Irvin is much more intriguing.
How can it not be relevant if Silva loses to Irvin? I’ve heard a lot of people saying the fight is irrelevant but for Irvin he just beat considerably the best P4P fighter in the world. Also when your the champion of your weight class and can’t beat the B class fighters in the class above you thats saying something as well. We all know that if Silva can’t beat Irvin they can spin it but a loss is a loss and when you are supposed to be the best 20 to 30 pounds is not something that should be able to beat you. I am also thinking that if this fight does not go well for Silva will they even consider moving GSP or Penn up in weight classes. I mean look Liddell had to fight for his right to go fight in Pride and when he lost nobody has cross promoted since. Just because this isn’t for the LHW title contention doesn’t mean the fight is irrelevant. All you are still comparing is the fight cards which isn’t really that big of a deal. The only fight you can really say should make that card worth the money is the main event and I don’t agree that its worth $40. Tim has been a bum in his last few fights and Fedor has been fighting lower level fighters. That doesn’t get anyone amped up, they have already put a title on the line and to be honest a lot of what Affliction is doing is scaring me. I don’t want them to end up like EXC which I hate and Affliction might do that because I don’t like half time shows and Tom. I love their card but other than the HW’s who do they have to keep me excited. I know this has been pointed out but HW’s are usually slow and boring man, your telling me the most technical and explosive fighter around is not worth Free but a sluggish bum and Fedor (I wouldn’t trash talk this man) is worth $40?
SMOKES: Of Course I am comparing the 2 cards! Read trhe thread! It sure looks like it says “UFC vs. Affliction”, We agree that is what it says? Then why the F would I not compare them.
THere is no right or wrong answer, its all a matter of taste an oppinion. I simply said, that in my eyes, its a no brainer! watch what u want but if Silva gets Ko’ed by Irvin, it will get swept under the rug and it will be like it never happened. Silva would still be champion, and would still be the man… Not a bad deal for Silva, he gets to headline an event with out risking his title! Silva has very little on the line, especially since he has made it clear that he doesnt plan on going after the light heavy weight title.
Fedor vs. Tim is a very relevant fight. Anyone who hates on Fedor, is just stupid in my eyes, and we will probably never see eye to eye, so there ius really no point in debating. I am not saying Fedor hgas to be oyur favorite fighter, but if you dont acknowledge him as a top heavyweight and one of top mma fighters in the world, then I have no respecvt for you and I think your knowledge of the spoort is NOVICE at best, and we probably shouldnt be talking!
Cheers! and enjoy your saturday night!
I am still laughing about someone changing their name to “john posts too much”. hahahaha. Sorry, no offense to you john, just funny. lol. As far as my plans, I actually want to see the Affliction card, but the cable company where I live (the sticks) does not even offer pay-per-view, so I usually go to a friends house or a bar. The only problem is I can’t find anyone that wants to bother with the Affliction card, so I guess I will be watching Spike,and later looking up fights on the Net.
I have many fans around here, some of which I dont even really acknowledge…its actually quit flattering when many of you bloggers E-mail me just to get my thoughts on certain topics.
Even the hate, is a sign of admiration.
I dontunderstand how many peiople, come on this site and waste there time? I just dont get it! When I dontthink that someone knows what they are talking about, I dont even waste my time talkjing to them…..Some people I guess still have that chat room syndrome…GROW UP!
-To each his own!
Irvin might not “deserve” to fight Silva, but did you forget he was the only one after 3 or 4 “big names” turned the fight down? Guess the people who “deserve” to fight Silva are scared? I hope Irvin KO’s Silva in devastating Fashion just to shut up the naysayers. This is fighting…the onyl fights people should “deserve” are when we talk titles. That is something you should earn and “deserve.”
I’m going to watch Affliction and DVR UFC. Fedor vs Tim is hard to beat. Although I think AA vs Fedor would have been just as sweet. Irvin vs Sliva is going to be sick. I personally think Trigg as a broad-castor does a horrible job. The way says “OH NO!!” all the time is annoying. “Oh no” what? Rogan is hard to beat, with his great one liners and knowledge of the sport. 2 days and counting I simply can’t wait.
I can’t believe you spelled ‘rich’ incorrectly.
No Trump bought the word and added a “t” to it.
It is actuall a capital T he added to it. Stands for Trump. Paid 2 billion if I recall.
I’m with you Kelly, although the Affliction card is the better card… free has always been good to me…
I’d like to know how you see UFC cheaping out?
You guys that are saying UFC over AFFLICITON just love the brand too much, more so then the fights themselves it seems. dont worry, dana loves u all! but seriously, you have edgar vs franca and the main event. Affliction takes it by a long shot you UFC FANATICS….so i guess there are ufc fans…then there are MMA fans that will watch both like myself and most here i take it. competition is great! This is why we were telling all ‘ufc be all end all fans’ that any competition was good for the sport, though many kept saying we dont need competition we just want everybody in the same UFC organization…sheesh we woulda never had these fights if that were the case.
I don’t see the extra 20lbs on Silva… that’s not good for the Sandman
LMAO, I guess the spider will not lose his quickness. All hail the king spider!
IMO, he actually looks a little better bigger. You will finally be able to get your name back.
I sure hope so!
Do you guys have another wager?
Automation, how did you get your name back???
and yes, if anderson wins I get my name back, if he loses I stay with this g_y @$$ name for two months! it’s a shot but I’m confident in my boy anderson!
Safe bet but I think BNF knows that, he’s cutting you some slack.
As did JV with me. JV let me off as my name was slightly more severe and all my posts were being moderated
lol
i dont think a. silva is worrying about who’s the stronger of the 2, just who is the quicker, more accurate. like the saying goes “its not a bodybuilding contest”. irvin i still a live one in this fight though.
no doubt Automation, BNF is a nice dude, he’s cutting me some slack for sure!
Yes, Automation, I am trying to let him off the hook. But I wanted him to have to squirm a little for it. Just a little friendly payback for all the post I was esentially laughed at for picking Forrest.
Automation’s name was hilarious though (brutal but still hilarious), That was cool of him to let you off the hook
Anderson looks like a twig in that 185lb pic…for 205 he doesnt look that big either. Timmy swamps Fedor, but after seeing him against Ho man Choi or whatever nothing compares to that size difference lol
Bob Sapp was a funny match up too. That one ended with the big guy crying on the mat
Sapp never fought Fedor.
That was Sapp vs Crocop in a K-1 fight. I don’t blame Sapp though. I would cry if Crocrop punched me in the eye and broke my orbital bone.
I would cry if crocop even LOOKED me in the eye, much less punched me in it
I thought Cro-Cop broke his jaw? I know Chuck broke Vernon White’s orbital bone and the dude had to have surgery
It was Sapp’s orbital and jaw. Essentially he broke his face with a straight left.
Correction… It was not Fedor… Sorry… Cro Cop but it was still funny to see Sapp eat one punch and crumple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui7F_3JKcw4
Silvas picture looks like some before and after pic at gnc, lol. Both cards look good. Urging everyone to record the ufn show and order the affliction ppv. Even if you have to get a bunch of buddies together and pay $5 its gonna be worth it. The affliction card is better than most people give it credit for and if the promotion takes off, its just more competition for the ufc, which is always a good thing.
he looks good as heck at 205. must be lots of water weight, the sandman will be dreaming
Ordering Affliction and recording UFC.
Why havent we heard any of Silva’s comments about facing Irvin? Seems like Irvin is the only fighter commenting on the fight.
b/c he doesnt speak english, who wants to hear a translator in a video clip??
silva speaks ok english but decides not to. Lock back at early carge rage fights when he’s talking to english ref’s, opposition corner men, officials and anybody thats in the ring after the fight.
can’t wait, my predictions will be in the friday conversation.
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*thanks john for the link to gangescon.wordpress.com, he is the best highlight video maker ever!!!
just remember 25001 ppv buys kevin.
You seriously don’t see the bulk around his waist and pecs filled in? Obviously he doesn’t look MUCH bigger but he definitely filled out. He did it in a good way so I don’t think he’ll lose any speed. I’m probably going to find a free stream of Affliction and watch UFC Fight Night on Spike.
I’m doing the same thing. I hope affliction does well, but the only fight I am interested in is Fedor/Sylvia. Which is not worth 40 bucks. Don’t get me wrong, the other fights are decent, just not all that relevent. Silva is my favorite fighter, I will not miss any of his fights.
You guys forget that actually ordering the fights helps us all, because if they make money, that means more MMA for all of us. Wake up ya cheap F****S!
If you want to buy every PPV from every start-up org that comes around then good luck to ya, when everything is said and done I would put money on it that the UFC card will end up being more exciting then the T-shirt company’s card. With that said, I hope Big Tim Ko’s the Russian.
Dam Haze, you said exactly what I was thinking. I can only imagine the damage it will cause Affliction if Big Tim KO’s Fedor? And how much it would help Adrenaline?
lol like this is just another card from a start up org. you guys are truly brainwashed
ok it is just another card from a start up org. that has alot of hype and money behind it.
I agree that we all benefit from more MMA, but this is there very first card in a new sport. This will not determine there staying power. Affliction will have to have a few cards before even its owners/promoters know what kind of business they are getting into. I know they cross promote, but with their current stable of fighters and the other fighters not signed in the ufc, we’re looking at round robbins for there first two or three cards. Same exact fighters with different match ups. I am a big Fedor fan, but he is figjhting Tim sylvia. fedor by sub or Tim by decision. I’ll get the results from mania, and watch the fights online.
Me? I’m watching Cops and America’s Most Wanted. I’m hoping Rampage makes a cameo.
F’d up man…F’d up
lol
that was just wrong LMAO
But it was funny
I am going to try really hard to talk my friends into watching the Affliction card. I don’t think it is going to work so i will be forced to only watch the UFC.
I might just buy the PPV at home and record it to watch that night or the next day.
i will be at the honda center in the 10th row…. booyaka bitches.. this ufc is a joke, though ufc 88 and 89 are starting to look pretty bad ass. im stoked 2 more days and i get to witness the greatest card in the history off mma, though shockwave 2005 was pretty damn good too!!
HAHA BEAT YA!!! i will be in the 7th row!!! courtesy of my wifes law firm!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Silva could have took the fight at 185 does not make a diff a
and all you know that i dont want to count sand man out but s*it come on …… it Anderson Silva
This is far from the greatest card in history, give me a break. It’s the most overrated card in history.
UFC 84>Affliction Banned.
Saturday July 19th 2008…hummm
Wake up around 9:30-10:00am Hit the Gym.
12:00pm Hit the showers..get a sandwhich (Tuna)
Smoke lil bit of Haze.. 1ish..
2pm - 6pm Either hitting the mall up and watching ” Dark Knight “..or going a small trip to traditional Brazilian
6:15ish..roll something up.. and go cop some beer and redbull(optional)
7pm - 8pm Calling my MMABoys VM, John Nizzle..
8pm- 9pm..I don’t know..just preping my self..for one of greatest nights of MMAaction ever!!! chking out FSN..it think it starts around that time..
Some some buddy…take the beer/cups out the freezer
9pm-1Am (july20th). I’m glued to el TV..
1am- on I’ll be back in the real world.
Brazilian Resturant
I forgot to mention.. Ordering Affliction: BANNED!!! and DVR’ing it.. and DVR’ing UFN14. I’ll be a happy camper.
I love Brazilian restaurants. I go to this Brazilian BBQ place where they serve you meat non-stop. Pretty expensive though.
Chris W : That’s where I go. I know a few.. And I get the rodizio for like 20bucks.. whick for all you can eat..is nada.
any good restaurant costs money
Not really.. I know good Brazilian..res ( owned by Brazilians ) that during the week you can get a Rodizio..for 17bucks flat. on the weekends the price goes up a bit..but It doesn’t pass 22$.. now if your drinking and yada yada.. of course you tab goes up. I’ve been on dates at by Brazilians spots where I spent with tip and everything..50 or 55 dollars. for 2 people.
There Brazilian Res..like Porcao..or Plataforma.. which is some hig hend shit.. your spending 75$ a head easy. no drinks included. only reservation type shit. F’ That.. I stick with my Dee L spots.
Damn it! I cant think of the one I go to in philly…Man I smoke to much WTF is it called….now this will bother me till I remember but anyway, Brazilain Steakhouses are GREAT!! Eat like a king!
You gotto go there hungry..like skip breakfast..stay away from the fries/ anything too carbish..it fills you up to quick.. My pops put on at a young on how to eat at Brazilian Resturants.
I wish we had taco bell here in Brazil, when I went to the states that’s all I ate (and spent half my time in the US in the toilet, but it was worth it LOL).
taco bell rules!
cant argue with that!
Yo I have been to Plataforma - it is awesome!
Oh, BNF, man I am dissapointed! So many great places in the U.S., and you get addicted to TACO BELL? lol. That’s not even real Mexican food! But I could seriously go for a Mexican pizza and 4-5 soft taco supremes right about now.
I was wondering what you meant………..
because my girlfriend has a traditional brazilian but i guess i could eat there too.