Yeah, I know everyone loves Anderson, but you can’t give him the advantage in every single category. How can you not tell that Irvin is much bigger. I still expect Anderson to win, but I think it may be a bit closer than Silva’s recent fights.

Irvin has mass over Silva, but their about the same in height. Silva may have more reach than Irvin. One intresting thing is out of 19 fights Irvin went to 2 decisions.. and Silva’s last decision win was in 2004..so I really doubt this fight is going the distance.

Yes and after August 9th it will be Penn Vs. Fitch

hahahahahah this guy is funny Fitch as champ

hahahaha i love the way u just blew him off ROFL

arnold what have u been eating? gotta lay off that shit man, u dreaming too much

If Serra can do it… Who can’t?

UFC 100 is going to be next August.

Shut up already! Of course he will be a little lighter then Irvin but he wont be undersized to a point that it will make much of a difference. If u know anything about Silva you should know that he fought at 205 In Pride….In this case, Size doesnt matter! lol

Just proving you’re a chump and the Sandman will deff have the weight advantage. Stop pretending like you know all in MMA.. don’t be mad you stunk at picking last events fights and lost a ton of money lol

An undersized LHW would be someone that came into the fight weight 186 lbs. THAT is undersized. When you have to cut weight the night before weigh-ins, you are not so undersized.

And its not like Irvin is taller than him. They are the same hieght, and Silva will have the reach advantage. Come fight night, Irvin will not have more than a 5 lb weight advantage.

That is not undersized.

Hendo fighting Big Nog is undersized.

Pretty much every fighter cuts weight for a fight… most cut 10+ pounds… Silva won’t have to cut 10+ pounds.. Sandman will probably more likely be 5-10 pounds heavier come fight time.. don’t be a moron.. for a weight division that is undersized.. in a open weight fight like hendo vs nog there is no weight class so there is no undersized..

How is he undersized for a weight divsion that he weighs more than????

I understand what you’re saying. Do you understand me?

We are both correct, neither are wrong.

Kory… U got handled by my colleague, Try making a good point for a change instead of trying to attack people…

“Telephone tough guy” - Joe Pesci Leathel Weapon 4! lol Ok OK OK!

LMAO!!!!

WAR JOHN!!!!

haha good try John but your boyfriend above says we are both right and then you say he “handled me”… really stupid.. can’t you think of anything intelligent to say? Use that GED buddy.

Anderson is undersized b/c an average 205 pound figher come fight time weighs more than what Anderson will come fight time…..period.. It’s not that hard to comprehend. I understand how you guys are trying to be 12 year olds and twist and turn it around to try to seem right, but you can’t be that stupid. By violent’s definition above then noone is undersized at all b/c they all make weight lol
lol

I am sorry Kory, but you lose. The fact that are throwing out the insults and name calling rather than logic shows there isn’t much for a thought process behind your argument. You can state Irvin cuts more, but that does not does not mean Silva is undersized. They are they same height and Silva has a greater reach advantage. They both weigh in at 205. The human body can only rehydrate ADEQUATELY over time and Irvin won’t get back to a weight that is far greater than the Spider.

Almost doesn’t count.

John’s comment said “as a matter of fact, I have never even seen him get Rocked!”

Silva was stunned and if Lutter wasn’t such and idiot he’d not let him get back up. So that is why his almost did count, because Silva was rocked.

He was taken down not knocked down. He was mounted and still didn’t get nailed with really solid shots. He certainly wasn’t stunned at any point.

Liddell’s title reign consisted of wins over:

Vernon White
Randy Couture (twice)
Jeremy Horn
Babalu
Tito

Not a single one of which is ANYWHERE near the Top 10 LHW’s.

Yeah, you’re right, none of them are in the top ten now. But, they were when chuck beat them (excluding White and Horn). And I agree with “naturalshadow”, chuck’s record as champion was awesome. As was Hughes’ - in fact, he is the best ufc champ ever.

Silva is dominant, and may become the best ufc champ ever, just not yet

No WADZ: THey were top 10 in the UFC, there is a big difference than being top 10 when most of the big gunz were fighting in pRIDE.

The only top notch win for Chuck was the Randy fights, other than that not top 5 fighters, Babalu was his next biggest win (and I am a big fan of his), but he wasnt a topugh opponent like Hendo or Franklin were.

franklin has been sorry as hell in his last 5 fights, wouldnt even count him as a top contender anymore…
1. crushed by silvas knees in 2 min
2. has jason macdonald mounted and complained when the bell rang that the fight shoulda been stopped, puss!
3. sparred with yushin okami for two rounds… got owned, mounted and almost submitted in the 3rd but still got a decision
4. ran away from silva for 2 rounds until getting KO’d
5. Owned by Travis Lutter round 1 and almost submitted, takes 4 minutes to finish lutter who is dead tired and standing right in front of him…

John, the top ten in Pride were not the big guns of the lhw class, and I have no idea why that is not a dead issue. Quinton came over before the merger, and has so far been the only lhw from Pride to do real well. I am a big Silva fan, so I hope his beatdown of Jardine shows that he is back, but that is about it. If you look at the top 10 right now, most of the fighters originated in the UFC.

Franklin is something like 22-3 with his only losses to A. Silva (generally accepted as the top p4p fighter in the world) and Machida, who is undefeated and by all rights should be the No. 1 LHW contender.

If anyone has one punch KO ability, it is anderson silva

Dude..it’s one thing to disagree on the whole Page/Forrest Drama.. but when you put Anderson Silva’s name in thre mix..that is a deep water conversation with me. Now that you expressed how you’re a big Franklin/Henderson fan..I can understand..but damn man.. Silva is too good. he is too much of class. too good of an diplomat of the sport.. I would be in tears if he would ever lose. I want him to fight for like 5 yrs at least..beat everyone he faces and retire as Champ.

For the very “few” Silva haters/doubter’s.. Size will not be a factor in this fight. Anderson trains at Black House.. he trains with the Nog brothers..he trains with Lyoto Machida..and company.

But he trains with them, He doesn’t fight them, thats like saying how Hughes trains with silvia, so hes strong enuff, But then, He wasn’t strong enuff to take down and handle Alves. I think silva will get beat, Or atleast i want him to, so he loses this best fighter in the world thing. He needs to give hendo his rematch, and hendo needs to go balls out like he did with rampage.

First of all Henderson will need to earn a rematch with Silva..no more freebies for the Henderson. to compare Hughes/Tim Syliva to Anderson/Nogs:Lyoto is not a good idea. Huhges is a one dimensional fighter..always was..always will be..he had a good run..but when faced Alves..it was a reminder that his bus left the station. Silva is a complete martial artist. He is in his prime and peaking/fighting at the best of his ability. Irvin granted is top notch striker..with good enough ground to be fighting in the UFC. Silva like Fedor/Penn has an aura about him..Can anyone be beat at anytime..yep. Can Irvin beat Silva yep. Will he “NO”. Irvin can say anything he wants..but when he is alone in the octagon with Anderson Silva.. That whole ” I’m going to beat him in clinch idea ” yeah sure. Silva will dismantle him RD1..and if Irvin has four leafed colver in his pocket..maybe ..just maybe he’ll fall asleep by the RD2.

I’ll show you who i have winning on the ufc card for the 19th

Irvin
Vera
Franca
Johnson

The other people, Im not familiar with, Becuase i only watch UFC really, besides some Elite and some Strikeforce. I’ll be watching the Affiction card though also, I Hate Tim, but I want him to end this whole fedor thing.

DJ, Im putting out my actuall opinions, In a rematch, i call Benn Beating Gsp, And anderson silva, i don’t like, I don’t have to like the champ likeeveryone else, My favprite fights for everyweight class in the UFC are-

155-Benn
170-Kos
185-Franklin
205-Griffin who just became champ,
And HW is a messed up division now, So I have to say Lesnar, and i will support them over anyone else they fight, Unless it;s Franklin agianst Anderson 3 becuase He’d get beat agian

is my comment going to show up?

Grr well DJ, I basicly said, That i think Benn would take GSP in a rematch, and that I just don’t like Anderson, becuase he’s beat all my favorite fights. and that i don’t have to take sides with all the champian fighters. My favorite guys for each weightclass in the ufc are 155-Benn,170-Kos,185-Franklin,205 Griffin, Heavyweight is an ugly division now, so I have to go with lesnar, for the fact that he was an NCAA westler and He’s huge, I favor wrestlers in fights.

OK Chase - my bad. If that’s the way you really feel all the best and type ’till your fingers bleeed man!

Chase, BJ’s last name is Penn not Benn.

I like to call him Benn now.

Hummmmm…really. Well since he drugged up Leben.. he has fought Franklin (drugged) Lutter(Tapped) Nate M (Drugged) Franklin (Drugged again) Henderson (Drugged/Tapped)..not 1 fight going the distance. All were suppose to have great wrestling/ good bjj to nulify his Muay Thai clinch right??.. So your once he fights someone fights a “decent” wreslter he’s toast. What do you think of Henderson’s Wrestling?? I think he has pretty good wreslting. Outside the fact American MMAfans are not the ones to glorify Non-american athletes..Silva IMO is the X factor.. if you understand MMA/Fighting..you should understand Silva is the greatest UFC MW Champ Ever!

None of them are good wrestlers, The MW Division has no great standout wrestler like 155 has Sherk, and 170 has Kos, 205-Hammil, and HW- lesnar, Middleweight is a bunch of strikers and alright wrestlers, Hendo is the best in MW, but didn’t fight smart.

Marquardt is an outstanding grappler and he lost to silva. henderson is a phenomenal wrestler with decent jits and he lost. Are you expecting some unkown super human breed of John Smith and Gracie genes to come out take him down and submit him? The problem is the fight starts standing. The best grappler is about half as good after Silva hits him and stunns him.

Chase : you are making circles around the ” Point “.. Anderson Silva is the best UFC MW Champ ever.. Why make excuses for Henderson, he had enough time to put together and enforce his game plan, as all Silva’s victims did. Your bias on your views and opinions of Silva.. When Silva druggs up Irvin.. what excuse will you put together to discredit Silva’s win??

Im not saying hendo is the mest in middle weight, i ment he was the best wrestler in midle weight. I neevr said he wasn’t the best champ ever at MW. he won’t beat Irvin. If he does, and it’s by a KO, and not a TKO, I’ll give him his credit, But still aways want the guy he’s fighting to win.

I am pretty sure HENDO has a silver medal from wrestling in the olympics. He is a great wrestler what do you mean there are no great wrestlers in the mw divison.

Hendo didnt win a medal… Lindland was the silver medalist.

Phil, I was reading thru and was going to say what DJ did up above - Just Leave Chase to Himself.

He does not know what he is talking about, more biased than anyone, and must get hard from trying to excite people that DO know what they are talking about. Don’t get all worked up over this TUF newby.

PJ Benn is the BEST!!!!!!

I am really hoping that Christiano Veeban beats Pizbing at UFC 89.

If you can’t correctly spell the 4 letter last name of your favorite fighter, STOP TYPING!!!!

Good looking DJ/VM.. I’m going to take your advice.

Violent mike? like how no one Gave forrest a chance? Yet you all said Page would win hands down, Then look whats happned. So All you riding on da sipders nutts won’t after this fight.

Forrest definitely had a chance against Rampage. For months before the fight, I said Forrest’s only way to win would be by decision - he would have to outwork Rampage from the outside. There were a good amount of people on here saying Forrest would win, and on UFC.com, the fans had it even right before the fight. Man, wish I could have gotten those odds because I would have only lost like 1/3 of what I actually did…

I am just surprised at how many people are PICING Irvin to win the fight. Can he? Sure, anyone has a punchers chance. But the advantage HAS to be to Anderson. That’s all. No hard feelings.

No it’s his wierd ass style how he moves, I think ivrin will not be scared of him though, and Push forward, atleast thats what i want him to do.

Plenty of people push forward but like the Fedor of old when you go to hit a guy and he keeps coming at you throwing precise bombs, you will back up. That’s the problem is that nobody can get Silva to play their game. Lutter had it close but he’s a bum so he lost it. Franklin is least off of all cause Silva is better at it than Franklin. Also I think Franklin and Hendo could easily dispatch a James Irvin I don’t see how Silva could not. James is not the greatest fighter he never learned how to fight safe and against Silva thats a dumb thing to do. Just wait for Okami, he’s the best bet of anyone to beat Silva at least for MW.

Okami will “NOT” beat Silva.. did you see what happened to Okami in their first fight.. Oh it was an illegal kick.. whatever.. Silva Ko’d him from his guard. No one at 185 currently will beat Silva.

I agree with you, Okami will lose, unless he gets lucky, I see hendo beating him in a rematch, I just love hendo, I like it when it was like the thing they do before a UFC, I forgot what there called, and i think it was Couture that said he was like a Badass cowboy.

the Okami fight is gonna 5 full rounds.
Okami has a good chin, the guy is also strong and well rounded.
I just hope he gets his oppportunity

I hope Okami is next in line..so he can get KTFO.

Anderson Silva is like the Zohan. He can kick you in the face while standing a foot in front of you. That is what happened in the Okami fight. From guard he kicked a guy, who was on his knees, in the face and knocked him out. That is unbeleivable.

Not being allowed to kick a guy in the face from your back is the dumbest rule in MMA.

Okami is real that was an illegal shot..cuz he was trying to pass Anderson guard..and one point he kneeled in his guard at the same time Anderson shot his leg over and in his face. If Okami wasn’t on his knees.. it would of been legal.. but I agree with you.. if your dumb enough to allow someone to knock you out from their back..then you deserved to get knocked out.

Chase, I must say, the one thing I’m with you on is being a big Hendo fan!

Also, you’re referring to the “UFC Countdown” show. Couture also said that Dan has gorilla grip in his hands, meaning once he grabs onto you, you can’t get him off.

I’m not all biased VM, and yeah that was the show, i think someone said he was like a cowboy from the movies though. I just don’t think anyone can be classifed as the best fighter in the world, and It makes me mad that Some people call him that.