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	<title>Comments on: UFC 86: Forrest Griffin UFC light heavyweight champion</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griff is the bomb! Going in I actually thought Rampage would win the fight but all the while was cheering for Griffin. This guy has the most heart I have ever seen! He has been a huge upset for many people. His Shogun fight was amazing, and this Rampage fight was amazing. He exposed Jackson&#039;s weak legs. And Jackson completely underestimated his opponent. Griffin is a fine example of what a fighter should be. He will fight till the death or until he is knocked-out, whichever comes first. And the guy has amazing sportsman ship. F every single person that booed him when he won. Griff is the shit! Congrats Forrest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff is the bomb! Going in I actually thought Rampage would win the fight but all the while was cheering for Griffin. This guy has the most heart I have ever seen! He has been a huge upset for many people. His Shogun fight was amazing, and this Rampage fight was amazing. He exposed Jackson&#8217;s weak legs. And Jackson completely underestimated his opponent. Griffin is a fine example of what a fighter should be. He will fight till the death or until he is knocked-out, whichever comes first. And the guy has amazing sportsman ship. F every single person that booed him when he won. Griff is the shit! Congrats Forrest.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampage might be saying he thought he won the fight but he knew he lost. Did anybody notice the expression on Rampage&#039;s face wheh the fight was over? Or while awaiting the offical decision? He knew he lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rampage might be saying he thought he won the fight but he knew he lost. Did anybody notice the expression on Rampage&#8217;s face wheh the fight was over? Or while awaiting the offical decision? He knew he lost.</p>
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		<title>By: kungfumaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>kungfumaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something odd about this fight. I feel that Rampage is the better fighter, no taking anything away from Griffin. 

Juanito Ibirra said it best you have to beat the champion convincingly and I felt that it was not a a &quot;Convincing&quot; Win on Griffins part

Although Rampage could have brought it more, It also crossed my mind that this fight was fixed, but maybe it was cage rust on Rampage&#039;s part. 

Griffin did not defeat the champion, reading all the reviews everyone has a different opinion on who won what round. Which basically proves the point that it was not a convincing win. 

Which does not say much for Rampage either!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something odd about this fight. I feel that Rampage is the better fighter, no taking anything away from Griffin. </p>
<p>Juanito Ibirra said it best you have to beat the champion convincingly and I felt that it was not a a &#8220;Convincing&#8221; Win on Griffins part</p>
<p>Although Rampage could have brought it more, It also crossed my mind that this fight was fixed, but maybe it was cage rust on Rampage&#8217;s part. </p>
<p>Griffin did not defeat the champion, reading all the reviews everyone has a different opinion on who won what round. Which basically proves the point that it was not a convincing win. </p>
<p>Which does not say much for Rampage either!!</p>
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		<title>By: TonyDrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyDrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - great fight that saved a terrible card!  This serves as notice to all those who gaurantee the favorites will win.  When will you ever learn!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8211; great fight that saved a terrible card!  This serves as notice to all those who gaurantee the favorites will win.  When will you ever learn!?</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t tease us!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t tease us!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Machida should be #2 on everyone&#039;s list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Machida should be #2 on everyone&#8217;s list.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, if you know so gd much about MMA and picking winners, then grow a set of balls and open an account on BetUs.  You would have made a killing last night!  What&#039;s your email, I&#039;d gladly refer you, or if you&#039;d prefer, for fights that we disagree on the winner, we can bet straight up.  However, I&#039;m not talking about making a bet that consists of changing my screenname on this site that like 100 people see, and only about 9 would notice.  I&#039;m taling about betting MONEY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, if you know so gd much about MMA and picking winners, then grow a set of balls and open an account on BetUs.  You would have made a killing last night!  What&#8217;s your email, I&#8217;d gladly refer you, or if you&#8217;d prefer, for fights that we disagree on the winner, we can bet straight up.  However, I&#8217;m not talking about making a bet that consists of changing my screenname on this site that like 100 people see, and only about 9 would notice.  I&#8217;m taling about betting MONEY.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ENOUGH WITH THE 2ND ROUND ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read you type about it 100 times in this thread, you are literally 1/4 of the posts.  Did you stay up all night and no sleep on Sunday just to type about it and call people out that picked Rampage to win???

I don&#039;t know about you, but I get a much better feeling when I win money on a fight.  Not bad mouthing someone on a message board that you will never meet. 

Find a hobby...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ENOUGH WITH THE 2ND ROUND ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I read you type about it 100 times in this thread, you are literally 1/4 of the posts.  Did you stay up all night and no sleep on Sunday just to type about it and call people out that picked Rampage to win???</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I get a much better feeling when I win money on a fight.  Not bad mouthing someone on a message board that you will never meet. </p>
<p>Find a hobby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was one that was saying that Rampage would win the fight via KO/TKO.  ALTHOUGH, I would always include that they only chance Forrest has at winning is by decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was one that was saying that Rampage would win the fight via KO/TKO.  ALTHOUGH, I would always include that they only chance Forrest has at winning is by decision.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BW, Forrest was never even close to finishing Rampage in the second.  His leg was of course hurt, but not a single one of his strikes on the ground even made Page flinch.  He has dominating position, but he didn&#039;t hurt him, outside of the leg kick (which Rampage stayed standing after getting kicked).  I can understand making that a 10-8 round, but I can also understand it as a 10-9 round.   

The scoring system just isn&#039;t clear enough, and I really think the UFC needs to get rid of the 10 point must system which is designed for boxing.  They need to use PRIDE&#039;s system.  You watch the entire fight, and write down the name of the fighter that won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BW, Forrest was never even close to finishing Rampage in the second.  His leg was of course hurt, but not a single one of his strikes on the ground even made Page flinch.  He has dominating position, but he didn&#8217;t hurt him, outside of the leg kick (which Rampage stayed standing after getting kicked).  I can understand making that a 10-8 round, but I can also understand it as a 10-9 round.   </p>
<p>The scoring system just isn&#8217;t clear enough, and I really think the UFC needs to get rid of the 10 point must system which is designed for boxing.  They need to use PRIDE&#8217;s system.  You watch the entire fight, and write down the name of the fighter that won.</p>
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