Forrest Griffin is the new light heavyweight champion of the world, which means it’s time for Juanito Ibarra — the trainer for Quinton “Rampage” Jackson — to retire.
Probably won’t happen.
Regardless, MMA’s version of Alfred E. Neuman (as Randy Couture often refers to him) now holds the sport’s most coveted title … and, as usual, he was the most unlikely of champions.
It’s a journey that has come full circle for the man who has been credited for putting mixed martial arts on the map with his win over Stephan Bonnar at the conclusion of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) world debut.
But he endured (as usual) to win a five-round unanimous decision over the much more experienced Jackson. He used a methodical, careful approach that leveraged leg kicks to minimize the punching power of the heavy-hitting Tenessee native.
And it worked.
Griffin survived the onslaught and defied the critics — and the champion — to topple Jackson, taking the fight on all three judges scorecards.
Jackson was gracious in defeat, admitting that he was not the better man (even though the final result did not seem to mirror the final decision … it didn’t appear to this writer to be as clear cut). However, it’s a result that is not only unexpected, but throws the division in upheaval.
Perhaps it’s all for the best — now we can see Jackson take on Wanderlei Silva for a third time before the 2008 fight campaign expires. And more than likely we will see Griffin take on the winner of the fight between Chuck Liddell and Rashad Evans later on this year.
Good stuff … I guess.
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Just an awesome fight… congratulations Forrest
setup fight. vegas won alot of money on people betting on rampage and vegas knew that, it looks more like crooked fights. like the fisrt franklin vs. silva fight, franklin just let silva punish him against the cage, no blocking it or nothing. same with wec with the urijah vs. pulver. pulver knew he could wreck urijah with those lefts.. fights have all been rigged based on bets. they know how much in bets there has been made even weeks before fights…
just take it in stride and dont get to involved with the outcome. the people know who won and when the judges dont see it the same way as the fans you know it was a set-up fight.. did rampage even get mad like when chuck liddell punch him before he knocked him out?
interesting….sure looks that way if you watch closely
you also support AREA 51, SASQUATCH’S, THE BOOGY MAN,OH AND ELVIS PUMPING GAS IN OHIO, get over it you predicted a rampage win, and he did not. he is a one dimmensional fighter, successful with brute power, but one dimmensional he needs to get a new coach who will bring him into the real mma game. ground , grappling, submissions.GOOD WORK FORREST
“Boo Hoo now i am a bitch to an ex-champ.” Get over it. Rampage lost. What? RAMPAGE LOST! I knew this would happen some of us said Forrest would win and were called idiots and such. If Rampage won I would have given him the props because if you leave it in the judges hands well then that’s your fault. But Forrest won and now he was on the grassy knoll. You IGNORANT semi-fans make me sick. Oh by the wasy, did I mention RAMPAGE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, g-money, but that’s not how Vegas works. Think of it as a balance/scale–the more money that gets bet on one side, the more the odds shift to favor that guy, and the lower the payout when betting on that fighter. When this happens, people have a larger incentive to bet on the underdog, so the money shifts to that side a bit.
The only thing that casinos set is the initial line, and after that, they follow the money, moving the line to make an equal risk/reward on both sides (they want to make money regardless of the outcome).
scoring the rounds was
1. rampage 10-9 only b/c of the knockdown
2. forrest 10-8 total domination
3 + 4. 10-10 WOW. great fight
5. forrest 10-9 pushing the action
oh I forgot the judges cheated and there is a Santa.
Go ahead make exuses for Rampage. Its what I expect. Cause we all know Forrest cant beat Rampage! Wait, he did just beat him so lets not all make excuses as to why. He just did. Pay out my ass.
beat him, yeah right, the only way forrest could hurt rampage was with those leg kicks. he never once staggered rampage with a punch, or even hurt him for that matter. forrest said all of rampage’s punches hurt, but none seriously hurt him, did he forget that he was knocked out in round 1, even though he recovered. i thought it was a lackluster fight on both fighters part. rampage because he wasn’t too aggressive, and forrest because he was soooooooo afraid of rampage, he looked like a fly biting a human, go in for a quick bite then fly away as fast as possible when the human makes a motion toward it
Douche 4 must have been watching some other fight.
It’s called a strategy you dunce! Most people would think it’s stupid to stand in front of a guy who knocked out Liddell. I guess you also didn’t like that Forrest let go of the triangle before getting slammed into unconsciousness? And Rampage wasn’t too aggressive because he was limping from all the leg kicks. I suggest you take one and tell me how your leg feels.
G-money. equals full of shat. Payoffs my arse.
G-Money sounds like a cry-baby to me. What fight were you watching????
Forrest won that so easily. The only round that I would have clearly given to Rampage was Round 1. After that it was not as close as you’re making it out. Rampage got beat. Stop with all the conspiracy theory bullshit.
Anderson has been doing that to EVERYBODY!!!! fORREST also beat SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!! you make noooooooooo sense!! I feel sorry for you. Making comments like this only shows how little you know about MMA. Trigg nailed it, when he said Rampage had a soft camp and Forrest trained his butt off./ I supposed Trigg was in on it with the Vagas “men” as well.
I just really wanna rub this in John’s face for calling me ignorant for picking Forrest to win not only against Page but Shogun as well!!! lol! C’mon John, all the Forrest fans are waiting for you to come eat some dirty crow!
C-War: Do u honestly think I give a F**k about the way I look to you? I lost close to $2,000 last night…the last thing I care about is how u feel about me. Congrats, u got to finally see me loose money…hoope u r happy you hater! lucky for mme, i was playing with the houses money since its the 1st UFC pay per view that I have os money on sinec UFC 64!
If you scroll down this page, you would see that I have been here all along, did u think I woululd hide from u?
Yes I do. People ussually insult others because of insecurity of themselves, but w/e.
U win! I am terribly hurt! I hope that u can forgive me!
yo john, don’t worry dude i lost a lot of money too. we’ll just get em next time!
I’ll try my best
rp: what r u my new #1 fan….get off my nutts, I dont know u dude!
not like that.. i still think the same way about you! it’s just I too lost a lot. but i never treated any1 here like you do.. grow up college boy.
No worries John. c-war is just a hater toward people that know more about mma than he does. Here is a conversation from like a year ago, literally….
VM: But seriously, NOBODY cares who has the first comment. MANY people are annoyed with the “First comment, Boo-Ya” type comments that appear all too much. If that’s all you have to say, or all you want to do, you should just try out for game shows where ‘buzzing in first’ may actually be beneficial to you.
CWAR: Hypocritical statement seeing as how you are shooting for number 1 commentator isn’t it? I do remember you celebrating when you made the top ten………..No reply needed.
PhilQNY: ..Big Difference..you can be in the top ten..because there is a top ten..what do you get or be in if you keep being the first to comment..NOTHING.if your the first or the last..the more you comment..it adds up..and places you in the Top Manics..there is NO TOP FIRST LINERS.
VM: WOW cwar, I never knew you were such a hater. Thanks PhilQNY. There are a bunch of people on this forum that will sit on the homepage hitting refresh waiting for a new thread to appear just so they can say something corny like “First comment, Boo-Ya”. I don’t see any MMA analysis in a comment like that. In my posts, I always provide some sort of facts when trying to prove a point, otherwise I will simply give my opinion and explain why its my opinion, and every now and then I’ll crack a joke here and there. As a matter of fact, 9 times out of 10, after I post something, someone will quote it and say “Good post VM”. I really enjoy seeing things like that, it makes me happy.
Speaking of “I do remember you celebrating when you made the top ten”, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about, and I would hardy call it celebrating. I first saw my name at #10 on the Top Commentator List in a thread right after I posted a comment. And it just so happened to line up with the #10 spot of the Top Commentator List. I then posted something along the lines of “Hey, I just noticed something on this thread that made my day, can anyone tell what it is?”. Several people guessed before one of them got it right. At that point, several people congratulated me, did I ‘celebrate’ like you say, not the least.
And “shooting for #1 commentator”, hardly. I actually hope that spida starts posting like he used to, because as a matter of fact, I don’t want to be #1. What I really wished was that MTU would come back, he had like 5,000 posts. If I was “shooting for #1 commentator”, I would quote comments and respond to them as individual posts, instead of quoting and responding to several comments all in the same post, which is what I do.
For all the people that enjoy my posts, thanks, and I hope that I continue to have time to continually post with my new position.
To the few haters out there, *cough* cwar *cough*, keep on hatin, I love it!
WTF?!I just lost my money!Sh1t!
I said a while back, that Page wasnt that impressive yet. He caught Chuck to early in there fight to see how he would handle Chucks bombs. And two guys who were really 185ers.
Now I hope all the guys that were saying, Massacre, Murder, No Chance and all the other crap will man up and pay tribute to one of the few guys that called this fight.
Especially the guy that talks the most, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. That should teach you to stop acting like you know everything. Like 50cent says (I’m laughing straight to the bank with this) HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
Great Comment haha.
Not good stuff Mania, great stuff. I won a lot of money, just like I did when he beat Shogun!
I won a whole lot. hahahaha, THANK YOU RAMPAGE FANS!!!! MONEY MONEY MONEY
To the guys saying Quinton admitted he lost, watch the post fight press conference on the UFC.com website. Rampage felt that he (himself) won the fight.
He was being gracious saying that “Forrest whooped my ass”. But, Rampage believes he won that fight…so do I.
But no crying. The fight is done.
Forrest’s post fight press conference comments are great.
“Look at the Champions…Anderson Silva, terrifying….BJ Penn, terrifying…every other champion but me is terrifying…I’m just a dood trying to put it together, fighting like a dog.”
Forrest Griffin, humble champion, I respect that.
He also thought Bonner beat forrest too, but it didnt happen.
1 round Jackson
2 round Forrest
3rd round Forrest
4th round Jackson
5th was close But I gave it to Forrest.
No way Rampage won, he wasnt busy enough. Forrest was
Let me start off by saying that I got completly CRUSHED betting last night! This was the 1st event, since I started betting at UFC 64 that I lost money on, and I lost a lot of it!
I lost close to $2,000 last night which is basically what I won on UFC 85 and UFC 84…I am pissed! This was a good Kick in the ars for me because I started getting to high on my abilities and this brought me back down to earth. I always bet unbiasedly but I began acting/feeling like Matt mcGounaghy in “two for the money”….I stopped doing my research and I began betting on who I want to win instead of who I thought that would win, and I felt like it didnt matter because I am so good that I would win anyway! It didnt work out that way for me last night. I LOST EVERY SINGLE BET I PLACED except a small meaningless bet on Joe stevenson.
I have a Question for all of you…. I thought last night was one of the worste nights of fighting in a long time. I can not decide if I felt this way because all my bets were loosing, or were the fights in general llast night just boring? Can u guys tel me what you guys thought about the event as a whole cause I am having a hard time deciding if the event was boring or was I just mad because I am not used to loosing! Please let me know what u guys thought of last nights fights…did you find the fights exciting? Was it a good event? Let me know your thoughts on the event as a whole!
It was a so-so event I thought. I was very impressed with Tyson Griffin. He keeps getting better every time out.
Almeida Cote was pretty poor. After round one Ricardo looked out of steam and it turned into a snorefest. Stevenson Tibau was alright. Koscheck and Lytle was disgusting. I wanted to see that one stopped. Not sure the standups were right. I think they just wanted to give Lytle a chance.
Griffin Jackson was very interesting and Forrest did win that fight in my book though I maybe wrong.
Round 1: Rampage 10-9 Only because he dropped Forrest.
Round 2: Forrest 10-8 Hurts ‘Page’s leg and dominated
Round 3: Forrest 10-9??? Not sure, have to watch it again.
Round 4: Rampage 10-9 Moved better and rallied.
Round 5: Forrest 10-9??? Could have gone either way. I thought Forrest was just outpointing ‘Page on strikes landed until the last 30 seconds when Jackson started swinging for the fences.
You could see it on Rampage’s face. He thought he had lost.
Maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10.
Couldn’t agree more, besides the main event it really wasn’t a card worth watching… Great fight by both Rampage and Forrest!
John I get on this site non stop to see what you and Kevin are batteling about. I gotta say for being a broke college student you must hurting after your all knowing disaster of betting last night. I just want to hear you admit that Forrest won a good fight with no excues for Rampage. Time to eat some crow since you said you would never have to since Rampage would never loose. Keep the good hard to find articles coming but welcome back to earth with a humbling night of fights.
Scroll down and u will see it! damn right last night hurt! say what u want about me, but I always keep it real
Kimber: I find it fattering that someone I have never even heard of like u, can hold on to my every word and know so much about me…..If u asked me about u, I wouldnt even know you exsisted….I will take the hate as a compliment!
It is a compliment I read this site religously but don’t have the time to comment at work. I am just glad to see you have to eat some crow for bad mouthing all the forrest fans this past 2 weeks. In general keep the info coming I look forawrd to it daily
kimber: you remind me of the guy that only comes out when its good for him!!!!! you say u check this site religiously, yet u dont have the courage to comment???? hmmmm….
I got every pick right except for Lytle over Koscheck, and I still thought it was an extremely boring event besides the main event that everyone went nuts over. Too many styles clashed and kind of cancelled each other out. The main event made up for the whole night though. If it werent for Forrest’s and Jackson’s war to save the day at the end, this card would have sucked.
JOHN. i thought the night was boring as well until the forrest/rampage fight wich was an edge of yor seat type fight to me. wether you thought forrest won or not, you do need to give the man his props. you kinda put yourself out there by guaranteeing that forrest was undeserving, overrated and would get koed and get his jaw broke. none of those happened and even though the fight was close (i had 3rnds to 2 forrest 48-47) forrest had by far the most dominant rnd in the 2nd. the shogun fight was for real and so was this one. juanito sealed rampage’s fate with the “guarantee or i’ll retire. like i said before thats the kiss of death in sports. it usually means that the trainer is worried about something and is trying to get his fighter more motivated. about 3 or 4 months ago when this fight was 1rst announced i did pick rampage to win by ud, but was always was trying to defend forrest on how he had a defintr chance at winning and i tried to get across alot of great points as to why, but was constantly greeted w/ forrest sucks,overrated,lucky,no chance, done in one type remarks, and i got tired of posting about the fight entirely. sorry you lost alot of money but you have to understand that fighters can and do get better as time goes along. just like rampage got alot better when he came to the ufc, forrest improved all the time, training at one o the best camps in world and training his butt off. i tried to warn you about the lytle/kos fight as well, i had a feeling kos would be on top the whole fight. thats a fight where you bet with yor heart not your head. oh well you have had a great run at picking upsets and alot of winners and there are always bumps in the road. just remember everyones got a chance in mma, and no more forrest bashing!
Congratts BW, I hope u r happy! I lost 4 out of 5 fights i bet on last night, but it was still the 1st time I have lost money on an event since UFC 64! For the year I have only lost about 10 out of the 45 fights I bet on this year! Last night hurt my account, thats for sure, but I only really llost money that I won from UFC 85 and 84….For the year, I am still up money from UFC 80, 81, 82 and 83…and up a lot if I might add!
arent we just great. pretty full of ourselves there.
not since ufc 64, great job!! Im glad ur all knowing and all powerfull
John, how did you do on UFC 82? I had a losing event that time.
John: It SUCKED!!! I bet no $$$ on it. But it SUCKED!!!!
I love Rampage and honestly feel that he did more damage and at worst the fight should have been 47-47. However, his renowned trainer needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. All he did when he made his retirement remark was put even more pressure on Rampage. Very stupid mistake. Something you would expect from a young hothead.
I’ve been saying that Forrest can’t win, and he’s not even the #1,2 or even #3 contender. I was wrong. Fantastic fight. I had money on Rampage, but still thought Forrest won.
The ufc now needs a very exciting,popular opponent for forrest. That dummy won’t sell any ppv!
Agreed - great fight that saved a terrible card! This serves as notice to all those who gaurantee the favorites will win. When will you ever learn!?
Something odd about this fight. I feel that Rampage is the better fighter, no taking anything away from Griffin.
Juanito Ibirra said it best you have to beat the champion convincingly and I felt that it was not a a “Convincing” Win on Griffins part
Although Rampage could have brought it more, It also crossed my mind that this fight was fixed, but maybe it was cage rust on Rampage’s part.
Griffin did not defeat the champion, reading all the reviews everyone has a different opinion on who won what round. Which basically proves the point that it was not a convincing win.
Which does not say much for Rampage either!!
Griff is the bomb! Going in I actually thought Rampage would win the fight but all the while was cheering for Griffin. This guy has the most heart I have ever seen! He has been a huge upset for many people. His Shogun fight was amazing, and this Rampage fight was amazing. He exposed Jackson’s weak legs. And Jackson completely underestimated his opponent. Griffin is a fine example of what a fighter should be. He will fight till the death or until he is knocked-out, whichever comes first. And the guy has amazing sportsman ship. F every single person that booed him when he won. Griff is the shit! Congrats Forrest.
i have never been more happier to be proven wrong… wow forrest griffin
I think they are having Forrest star in the next Rocky movie.
Wow Forrest Balboa
Yeah I’m one of the biggest Rampage fans out there, but deep down I knew Rampage would have problems with Forrest, just didn’t think it would be that much. I don’t get how people are saying Rampage won that fight, I lovethat guy to death and I will admit he lost, and clearly. Probably the last time I ever doubt Forrest, if he could beat a healthy (from what we know) Rampage, then he has a shot at pretty much anyone I think. I was sad, but Forrest is also one of my favorite fighters, so I’m still happy for him.
Now we better see Rampage vs Wandy next, and at it will be good to see Rampage back in the thick of it all, fighting for his belt again, which he will get back.
My thoughts on the rest of the event.
I dont know if its just me, but either Tyson Griffin or Joe Stevenson have got to go! They are the same fighter basically, therefore they cant both be sitting toward the top of the division! They have to face off against each other next because 1 of them has got to go. I am sick of watching both of them, fight! As talented as tyson is, he cant finish a fight to save his life, and stevenson cant end a fight in any way other than a crappy guillotine (I really hate that move and after a fighter wins 3 fights with that move, they shouldnt be alowed to use it anymore! Extreme Couture needs to start teaching its fighters how to finish fights because they clearly do not have that ability!
UFC needs to book tyson vs. Stevenson next, and bump the looser down to the bottom of the division!
Its funny that the fighter who impressed me the most last night, lost….Gleison Tabau! This dude is legit! I did not realize how big of a lightweight he was and I did noot know he was only 24 years old. Maybe its because of the long hair he used to have (made him look old) but I thought he was like some old 34 year old….This guy is still a kid and a very skilled one as that who will make a huge impact in the lightweight division, sooner or later. He was in a great position t win thhe fight last night, mounting Joe, but tried to get fancy and went for a mounted triangle and lost the mounted position. In a night filled with boring decisions, I cant fault the kid for trying to bring an exciting finish to the octagon!
Maximus did not capitaize on what I saw was a wonderful opportunity. Tyson is so SHORT! to add to his lack of hight, Tyson kept dropping down on 1 knee to throw that body shot on Maximus. IMO, that left tyson wide open for a counter via a knee (like Hermes was doing against sherk).
I have come too the conclusion that pure the classic grappler vs. striker match ups should be outlawed in te UFC when the fighters are not well rounded and have to much on the line because time and time again we see those fights become boring! I liked the strategy early in the fight but as the fight went on we saw, 1 guy scared to punch because he was worried about being taken down, and the other fighter scared to strike because he was afraid of getting kO…Not very exciting if you ask me. When guys are not well rounded and there is a lot riding on te fight, I hope to NEVER again see a Grapper vs. Striker match up!
Koschek BORED me as usual! Lytle didn’t throw enough combos and he started looking Llike Arlovski has looked, predictbly just looking for that big right hand instead f mixing it up! Nothing can be worse for a fight card then a fight card filled with wrestlers!
IMO, last night was a Boring night of fights! Forget your feelings about the main event, did you find the other fights exciting?
FOrrest didn’t win all that big i thoupght it could of went either way,
Listen to GOldie and ROgan ,
How they both drastically disagreed about the 3 or 4th round
goldie knows just enough to be dangerous,he should comment as little as possible,let joe do his magic and every now and then say”EXCEPTIONAL or FANTASTIC or THE GREATEST or …. you get the point.
…or “Phenomenal”!
No dude, Rampage lost that fight. Just barely but he lost. I was pulling for Rampage but I have to say that Forrest won the fight but if Forrest would have never injured Rampages knee with that kick I think Rampage would have won the fight in a dominant fashion. But that’s MMA for you, sometimes you just never know if someone is going to get hurt or get caught so fights are hard to call sometimes. Now that I think about it this is the best possible scenario for the UFC. I don’t think we’ll have to wait as long for Wandy vs. Rampage3. Chuck will probably beat Rashad and he will get the first crack at Forrest and the winner of Wandy vs Rampage should fight Machida or someone like that for the next title shot. Shogun needs to get healthy because that would make this weight class that much more interesting.
totally disagree with the judges on this fight , jackson was never in trouble besides the leg kick , i will not buy ppvs with forst griffen with the exception of this one … only way i saw forest winning was the small and suttle fact that he was a BIT more aggressive , both fighters were very careful , rampage did state post fight that he will never take off 9 months again … and he better not cus they hurt him , anyways maybe well see rampage vs silva 3 or even shogun now so that’s cool but come on … forest can’t last in this division , even against a healthy shogun , no chance against a liddell and no chance against a machida or wanderlei , well maybe wanderlei but i won’t be buying the ppvs , what a terrible afterfight interview with forest as well cussing his ass off and acting all high on a pedestal and too good for rogans and the ufcs questions ….. disgraceful that people even think he put MMA on map …
let me guess you thought rampage was going to win with ease right?
What is so bad with the fighters cursing when everyother word out of the presidents mouth is the f-bomb?
Forrest stands a chance against any fighter in this division he is constantly improving, super tough and has the heart of a champion. In his last two fights he has beat the two number one ranked guys at the time i think it is time you show him some respect.
Still loosing respect to these guys who post 24/7, they don’t realize that some of us read all the arguments, but don’t post. Grow some balls johnny boy
and i can see why you don’t post newguy , cus you are a NEW guy prolly don’t dont know what crackhead control is either … im a page fan and it worked and got rises out of you didn’t it buddy
spell my name right too u tool
Hey jonny. You only know what crackhead control is because Joe Rogan mentioned it at the Ultimate Fighter Finale. Eddie Bravo came up with it. Stop acting like you know what you’re talking about. You just repeat other people. You’re weak. And Griffin won… Deal with it.
EXACTLY. I never heard of an eziquiel either until UFC 86
hey matt STFU , ignorance is bliss by your comments and who said i give a crap about dana whites comments he is irrelevant
Nothing like a sore loser, JoHnny.
amen
you rule internet fight master god bless you and all you have personally done in mma.now you can focus on your training and fight forest for his belt because clearly you know exactly how to fight and win a title.bless you net champ
internet fight master , that really hurt my feelings im going to commit suicide whimywhamy
Don’t tease us!!!
i feel u rampage won hands down.
Uhh he kinda did put MMA on the map. HOw many people watched MMA before Season One of TUF and how many people watch it now. Sure the hard core fans watched it before and woulda kept watching it anyways but you lying to yourself if you won’t admit he was a very large portion of bringing it to the mainstream sport it has become today.
Now I hope that all the guys saying Rampage will dominate and Forrest didnt deserve a title shot will man up and show some respect. Especially the guy I consider the biggest a$$ on this web sight, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! I said it after the Hendo/Rampage fight that Rampage wasnt that impressive. Eastman, 185er. He caught Chuck early so we didnt get to see how he would take Chucks bombs. Then Hendo another 185er. But people bashed me right away and said I was wrong, well now whats up?
Is Forrest really that good? Or is Rampage not as bad as everybody was saying? Massacre, murder, run Forrest run, 1st round and 2nd round!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Forrest Griffen, THE NEW LHW CHAMPION!!!!! how does that taste?
I hope the guy that talks the most, MANS UP!!!! and shows some respect. I called it, BNF called it and a few others. BNF whats up? I hope you partied as much as I did. Automation is probably locked in his room crying about what he has to do. Linx, what happened to your boy Page? I like getting into debates with you, but maybe now you can see I’m the MAN!!! lol.
LMAO!!!!!! Suckes to be linx and Automation. FORREST, FORREST!!!!!! Where u guys at??????
I have to post again… It just feels so damn good! Forrest has no chance… KO… Broken jaw… blah blah blah… Linx, I love u, but now your my bitch!!!!
BNF glad to see you!!! I hope linx and Automation make it home ok. Cause there probably soaking there sorrows in some kind of alcohol. lol.
I’m in MMA pergatory… JV my man. Happy 4TH!!!
OH sh!t sorry man, Happy 4th to you too!!! You been reading all the hate?
I actualy watched the fight at the Hooters in Daytona. A lot of people walked there after the race ended. They had it on a giant blow up screen, but there wasn’t any volume, so I never heard the actual judges score or what the fighter’s had to say. I will say this though, without the volume, everyone in the area I was in called it the same, 3 rounds to 2 rounds in favor of Forrest. I think we all said he took rounds 2,3, and 5. I would like to watch it agian with the volume, but I have noticed that sometimes the commentary can sway the view of the fight.
Also, I believe that Rampage said something on TUF about betting his money that the fight would not go to a decision? haha
Oh man, just stopping by ‘cause I’m going to be off all day looking for new furniture for my new house, but I don’t want you guys to think I’m ducking yall. BNF and JV, what can I say? I’m speechless, now I gotta keep this g*y @$$ name for a month LMAO. I gotta give it up to forrest though, that was a great fight and a great show of skills. the guy definitely came a long way since his TUF years. I have found new respect to forrest, he beat a top (and 100% healthy) fighter in rampage, no more excuses, he deserves to be champion. But don’t get too used to it, he ain’t going to be holding that belt for a long time (shogun should be back anytime now
) I know I know, you guys don’t want to hear nothing ‘bout shogun again, so I’ll let yall and forrest have your time of success, he deserves it. So I’ll leave by saying this, FORREST YOU’RE A TRUE CHAMP!!!
Much props to Forrest, he fought better than I thought he could fight….His chin held up better than I thought it would have and I honesty did not think Forrest could fight such a disciplined fight!
Now my thoughts on the fight. Mania, I am with you, I do not know if I totally agree that Forrest should be waking up today as the champion! I thought Forrest won rounds 2 and 5. Say the judges called round 2 a 10-8 round for Forrest, it still should have resuted in a draw. I dont understand how u can win a title against the undiputed champion if the most significant action of the fight was a few damaging leg kicks in the 2nd round. In all honesty, I thought it was a crappy fight and that neither fighter did enough to be called champion today, but I always thought that if a championship fight goes to a decision that the Chalenger had to decisevely beat the Champion….I did not see that Happen last night. IMO, Rampage should have either won a lackluster decision, or it should have been ruled a draw depending on weather or not you gave round 2 t forrest as a 10-8 round or not.
I was impressed with Forrest but much more disappointed in Rampage’s effort. No excuses because Rampage should have never put himself in that position. tHe few times he actualy opened up, he was rocking Forrest but never capitalilzed and barely attacked. Scroll down to read my analysis on what went wrong for Rampage because weather he deserved to win the fight or not is not the point, with 25 minutes he has no excuses for not finishing the fight.
This fight sucked. Whether your a Forrest fan or a Rmpage fan it sucked because everyone knows that Rampage did not fight near to his capabilities and Forrest fought as well as he poss.could have. Rampage took the whole last round off besides the last few seconds. What the hell, he didn’t seem tired, and u take the whole last round off in a championship fight. I don’t get it. Smells like a set up. I thought the whole card pretty well sucked. Why didn’t Cote let his hands go in that third round? The guy was totally gassed! They was talking title shot for both of these guys but Anderson Silva would have destroyed both of them the way they fought last night. And the Chris Lytle fight! I never want a fight stopped but that was a fight they should have stopped. He had to hang in there and take alot of unnecessary damage to his face because he wasn’t going to quit. If I would have been in his corner I would have prob. thrown in the towel. Tyson Griffin imressed me the most on this card and I really like Rampage but he just really pissed me off! I don’t dislike Forrerst, he is a very hard worker, and I can’t say anything bad about him (except when he went running out of the ring crying after the Jardene fight) but everybody knows that if Rampage would have fought to his abilities, Forrest would have no walked out the champion last night. For the record though I had the fight scored as follows.
1. 10-9 Rampage
2. 10-9 Forrest when he was on top he never hurt Page, cut him or anything. Didn’t see it being a 10-8 round. Just because it looks good doesn’t mean he’s doing any real damage.
3. Even. could have went ether way. neither one did much of anything.
4. 10-9 Rampage
5. 10-9 Forrest
So I guess I had it a draw meaning the Champ shold have kept his belt.
THats the way I saw the night!
Forrest is a great ambassador for the sport, and will make a great champion in the UFC!
I am sure that everyone will miss you Jonny. I dont know how the UFC will survive without you buying ppv anymore.
from my seats in the sky box Forrest owned the fight, minus a few big bombs from Rampage. A bit more aggressive?? Dont the judges score on who is more aggressive??
As far as Forrest not putting mma on the map he may not of been as ground breaking as Royce Gracie, but he blew this sport up with that fight against Stephan. If you are to ignorant to see or admit that then you shouldnt waste your $44.95 on ppvs anyway.
Jonny, you sound like a very BITTER ASS-HOLE. Rampage him-self said “Forest whopped my ass”. Forest cam to beat the “Champ” and he earned it going FIVE rounds. Very impressive if you ask me!!
YYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! War Forrest!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its time for some people who post on this site to EAT CROW. Now maybe we can stop with all the forrest no chin comments and i believe rampages trainer will be needing to retire, like he stated. But all that aside it was a good fight and forrest was the clear winner even thought i dont think the score was that bad. So please lets not hear any bullshit just give forrest the respect hes earned.
WOW that’s a joke i can’t believe that all 3 judges gave that to Forrest. Rampage knocked Forrest down in the first round. Grant it Forrest hurt Rampage with kicks to the leg. BUT HE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING else the in the moment(he was on top of Rampage for over 3 minutes & didn’t do any damage on the ground),,,Rampage defended everything he had while he was hurt. Rampage landed the harder cleaner shots that backed Forrest up every time he hit him. Rampage was hurt the whole fight & still landed the cleaner/harder shots. That’s why the crowd BOOED Forrest at the end of the fight,,,you have to convincingly beat the Champ and he didn’t beat the Champ. Rampage is a good sport which is why he said Forrest whooped his a** and that’s just the way he talks,,,,but AT THE END OF THE DAY he didn’t beat the champ. Check out Forrest’s face after the fight that shows how much damage Rampage did to him. I was so shocked in the 4th round when Rogan said that Forrest was winning the fight it was such B.S. Even Goldberg was shocked at that comment his initial reaction said it all. He said “ARE YOU SURE”? & then afterwards he jumped on the bandwagon with Rogan as they both started to sway they’re commentating toward Forrest….I PRAY THAT THEY GIVE RAMPAGE A REMATCH…He definately deserves it because he unified the titles and in my eyes as well as everyone’s eye’s who were they’re at the fights eyes didn’t loose that fight. That fight was easily 3 rounds to 2 QUINTON “RAMPAGE” JACKSON!!!!!
yet another keyboard fight master !look at the know how of the sport!let us all pray for a title shot for you so we can all be shown how much personal know how of mma you have!
wait till these retards watch the fight again, geeze, I’m laughing right know because we all know deep down forrest won.
lol your funny,,,Hey the next time you take time to type something on a site about MMA why don’t you take the time to at least list some facts about the fight…in case you didn’t know it just happened about an hour ago so it should be fresh in your mind now…
pierre, I dont think you know any facts about the fight. Jesus Titty F@#king… No one in the ring went” Oh my GOSH FORREST WON?” NO, everyone knew forrest did, but god help us, once they read these forums, they will realize what a mistake they made lol
are you actually citing goldberg’s opinion to help your argument???
weak dude, real weak….
Uh,,, yes i did list his opinion along with the ton of other facts i listed,,,can you list anything proving my facts wrong minus the B.S & Cheap Blog humor???if you can please do so!!
yes i do have one fact for you.
page lost…GET OVER IT!
here is some more from the source…
“He whupped my ass,” said a gracious Jackson. “Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. He deserves it.”
“He jacked my leg up,” said Jackson. “I’m not that good at acting. He knew he hurt me.”
now tell me, does page seem like the type to say a guy wooped his ass if he didn’t???
Obviously you havent followed Rampages career because if you did, you wouldnt hold to much weight in what Rampage said about the lost. Rampage fought Ninja and beat him in Pride but in the ring he went on to say that he did not deserve the win and that Ninja kicked his ass.
I do not think that Rampage felt that he got his ass whooped I think he was just acting graciously instead of doing what a lot of fighters do when they loose a close decision, Complain. Rampage was pissed at himself about his lackluster performance and that he didnt finished Forrest and instead of crying about the decision and getting booooed by the crowd he acted classy not wanting to diminish Forrest’s big momment. HOwever, I think after Rampage re watches the film and breaks down the fight, that he will be pissed at the decision that cost him the title because I am not sure how accurate that decision was!
the scores werent accurate, but the decision was! since when did rampage start saying things he doesnt mean, ive just gotten online this morning and as i scroll down i see your posts starting to deteriorate. i watched the fight agin w/ the sound turned off and still had forrest winning. the whole challenger has to dominate or ko the champ is an old boxing addage that doesnt hold up today. the better fight should always get the nod no matter how close the fight is, and he did.
I saw a DRAW! Either way, its Rampage’s fault for not fighting any where near to his capabilities! Props to Forrest, but the judgng Stinks IMO!
way to man-up john. i appreciate that!
Dude read my entire posts…I always man up!
U cant tell but I was a big Forrest Griffin fan, after his fight with Bonnar how could u not be…..What makes me hate on Forrest is I stil do not feel that he deserved a shot at a title, and because the UFC was trying to force him down our throats in the best division in mma, it makes me not like him. He is the champ! He fought the fight of his life, but you cant tell me that a guy who has lost to every good opponent he has ever faced, deserved a shot at the title…thats all i was trying to say! NOt that Forrest doesnt have the ability to fight at that level, I was just saying that he did not prove it yet…last night he did, but it was still a joke that he was put in that position over more deserving fights.
Only good fighters Forrest has ever faced in the UFC prior to last night are:
Tito (loss)
Jardine (loss)
Shogun (win)
All I was trying to say is to me that does not seem like a resume of a tite contender in the best division in the UFC. I wouuld have rather seen wanderlei witrh his 5 year title rain in Pride and 2 wins over Rampage
get a title shot, or Machida…
Forrest hasnt done much more since winning TUF than Rashad evans has (besides the Shogun fight) and if Rashad was awarded a title shot all u guys would be bitching and compaining…thats how I felt about Forrest…THats all!
If the UFC treated Forrest llike everyone else, I would love the guy…how could you not?
i thought forrest proved that he deserved the title shot with last nights performance. same as randy/silvia. rampage got the title shot after beating eastman. did he desrve it with that win. probably not, they wanted a rematch w/someone who beat chuck. but rampage proved he deserved it with his victory. big nog got a title shot after a very lackluster performance over herring, but he too also proved he deserved it with his victory over silva. what those guys did in pride doesnt count anymore, what they do now in the ufc does.
Come on BW: U know that all the pRIDE guys that were awarded tite shots got their shot because of what they did in PRIDE which was an organization that the UFC saw as equal to them. Rampage did not get his title shot because he beat Eastman, he got that title shot because of what he has accomplished in his pride career beating top fighters like Arona, Ninja (when he was the man) igor Volchanchyn whoo was a top 10 heavyweight ath the time along wit dominating wins over Former UFC champions like Bustamante, Randleman and his destruction of Liddell
Just like Anderson Sillva was awarded a title shot for what he did outside of the UFC, not because he beat Leben.
Nog got a title shot because he is a freaking Heavyweight Legend and a former long reigning Pride champion.
These fighters were awarded title shots because of their resumes. I man up when I am supposed to, now if you are going to compare what Rampage, Nog, and Silva have accomplished to what Forrest has accomplished, then u need to man up and keep it real!
Forrest definetly proved it llast night, but I aways thought u have to prove it to 1st get a title shot, if u thik that Forrest proved that he deserved to fight for the title prior to last nights fights, then u arent being very honest, because i know that u know better than that. I dont know about all the guys who make posts on this site, but i know that u know a thing or 2 so its time for you to man up and admit it!
he probably didnt deserve it as much as others before the fight, but after is the main thing. he more than proved it. he got the shot cuz of his win over shogun and that win alone. its still speculation on wether that was the “real” shogun, only time will tell. that to me was a set-up fight for shogun and he blew it rampage got beat twice by wandi and twice by shogun, the 2 best pride lhws, so him getting the title shot was based on his win over chuck in pride not ninja, or arona, randleman? i think i do a pretty good job of keeping it real. to it doesnt matter what you did in the past it matters what you do in the here and now. we will probably always disagree on this matter. if forret would have gotten koed in the 1rst like you predicted, i would be more inclined to agree with you (how could i not) but he didnt, so i cant ride with you on this one.
i do have alot of repect for the former pride fighters, i should add. they are just as good and some better than the ufc fighters. that has been proven. just cuz a fighter comes off tuf doesnt mean he cant end up being great as well.
I ssssssssssssssoooooooooooooo agree now UFC has its homer champion. To win a belt you should clearly dominate the champion. I gave it 3-2 Rampage. More power punches-look at Forrest’s face- JOKE
No way Forest took round 2 10-8 (mounting for 2 minutes and hurting the leg badly has to be 10-8) and he took the third and 5th as well. I thought he had the first before that bomb that rampage landed but i would agree it was enough to give Rampage round 1. But I had it 48-46 Forrest.
EVEN JACKSON SAID GRIFFIN WON!!!!!!
GSP, exactly how it went down and exactly how it should’ve been scored. I completely agree with that breakdown, especially the first. Forrest was winning that one, too. Then ‘Page landed the most significant offense of the round and took it.
Keith, I was watching with a friend that said the same thing-that the champ shouldn’t lose that way (on a decision). Every single fight gets judged round by round to its finality. Fighters can finish the fight or influence the decision. Under your philosophy, the champ would get special rules and preferential treatment and keep a belt even if not doing enough to win. Doesn’t seem like much of a champion then. ‘Page was in the cage and didn’t do what he needed to win straight up.
True. The old boxing cliche was always bs. You shouldn’t have to destroy the champ to win a title, just beat him.
I completely agree! You took everything I wanted to say and put it down before I could.
Look, yea Forrest beat jacked up Rampage’s leg in the 2nd but he didn’t do anything in the rest of that round. So what he controlled him? its 10-9, that’s it. You have to do what Koscheck did to Lytle in that 2nd round to get a 10-8. I mean that’s bs. So alright, that evens up the fight at 1 round apiece after he knocked Forrest down.
In the third and fourth rounds Rampage CLEARLY does not only more damage but packs more power in the punches, hurts Forrest more than vice versa. There’s no way that the score could be any worse than 39-36 at this point for Rampage.
Now to the fifth and final. They both study each other for the first little bit trading jabs and Forrest sweeping at Page with a couple kicks in 3 minutes. Then Quinton pours it on in the end even on the bum leg he’s still hurting Forrest.
my score for fight 49-46 Rampage. I could see giving RD 5 to Forrest so 48-47 at best.
Now, I another thing I think HAS TO BE CONSIDERED in any 5 rd title fight is did the Challenger BEAT the Champion? Did he TAKE his title? In no way did Forrest take Rampage’s belt tonight. There’s just no way. Quinton even 75% still controlled that fight and did more damage.
BULLSHIT DECISION
only thing good that comes out of this is that it sets up some really nice fights. now Quinton comes down to Shogun’s and Wanderlei’s level or could have a rematch with Forrest right away. Forrest will not last long as champ and Quinton will have that belt back around his waist before long.
I will say this, that was an AWESOME fight and I loved it. Just completely disappointed with the decision!
you saw the fight the way you wanted to see it, not how it really was. rampage hardly landed anything solid after the first. goldberg was calling phantom shots. the 2nd rnd, not only did forrest almost break his leg, he had him in full mount the entire rnd! when a fighter totally dominates a round to where the other fighter doesnt even come close to scoring a point, thats a 10-8 rnd. he almost stopped him in the 2nd. rampage never came close to stoppping forrest. and dont even get me started on the 5th rnd, that one was all forrest.
full mount and did nothing with it retard…a good fighter gets full mount he wud finish him….fabricio werdum cud do it…so y acnt forrest…dumbass
I agree Forrest won but b.w come on you say ‘Page never came close to finishing, what about that punch that dropped Forrest. Forrest never came close to finishing while he was on mount, but he did control.
PLINKO.he knocked him down, but forrest pulled guard immediately, so i dont think he was hurt that bad and he controlled rampage from doing anything. before that uppercut(wich was a great one) forrest was winning that rnd. if only forrest could punch harder or could put more power into his elbows he could have stopped page in the 2nd. but thats one of forrest’s weaknesses, punching power, but he makes up for it in his leg kicks and great heart.
BW, Forrest was never even close to finishing Rampage in the second. His leg was of course hurt, but not a single one of his strikes on the ground even made Page flinch. He has dominating position, but he didn’t hurt him, outside of the leg kick (which Rampage stayed standing after getting kicked). I can understand making that a 10-8 round, but I can also understand it as a 10-9 round.
The scoring system just isn’t clear enough, and I really think the UFC needs to get rid of the 10 point must system which is designed for boxing. They need to use PRIDE’s system. You watch the entire fight, and write down the name of the fighter that won.
You hit the nail on the head.
On all accounts.
First really bad decision I’ve seen in a big big mma fight.
The type of decision that has drawn me away in boxing over the years.
Lets hope its not a portent of things to come.
Thank u buddy..finaaly sum1 with some common sense..i really am starting to think that the UFC is fixed.. That was some serious bullsh!t..i was at buffalo wild wings and the wholes place was silent wen they said forrest won..even the forrest fans..un believable..Rampage drops forrest like a bad habbit and gets no recognition..but forrest lands a couple of keg kicks and now hes the champ…F*ck that man… If GSP loses a close decision to fitch.. i will single handedly murder ever judge
UFC IS FIXED. thats your user name? and you call me a retard and a dumba$s. if all you got is name calling and the most idiotic username ever, you can go back to sherdog newb! your def not an mma fan, just an anti-ufc fan. find another sport if you think the ufc is fixed. why would they give fitch a close decision over gsp if the ufc is fixed, fitch isnt the most popular fighter of the 2. definitley a newb statement! gsp wont let it go to a decision like rampage did, so thats one you wont have to worry about.
i bet you forgot how GSP looked after BJ lost…Forrest won it.
also i think rampage owes somebody his fight purse because i remember on the show he said i will bet my whole purse this fight doesnt go to a decision.
+100,000,000 but you know the BS will start now. here comes the conspiracy theories the boo hoos and the waaaas.
i said it after the chuck fight and after the hendo fight. page won’t hold this belt long.
so i guess all you fanboys need to call and cancel your rampage look a like neck chains in the morning.
WAR GRIFFIN!!!
Man, you guys crying over Rampage need to let it go it happens. It’s hurting my ears through the computer, all this WHINING!!!!
I thought Rampage would have held the belt longer than just 1 title defense, but I never thought he would have it as long as Chuck did. Speaking of Chuck, I would think he will have a much stronger argument for a title shot if he beats Evans now.
my gf says this was “da mystery of chessboxin”
Hah, as soon as I left the joint, I put that on in my car.
Oh Wu-Tang.
bad ass fight the 45$ were worth it for this fight alone
49-46?
What?
Ok.
Yeah .. weird. Forrest may have won but I didn’t see it like that.
See? Even Mania agrees. Tell ‘em!…WEll anyway, for all you haters out there, deal w/it. If you think rampage shoulda won, he should have done it in convincing fashion. And these d@mn MMA fights are soooo unpredictable! I knew I shoulda placed my money on Forrest, even if the money train was clearly chugging on Rampage’s side…Tsk tsk tsk!!
It’s not weird Mania. They gave Rampage 2 rounds loosing the second 10-8 that adds up to 46.
The 46 isn’t in question. It is the 49 that is weird. That is saying Forrest won 4 rounds and the second was not a 10-8 (presumably). I just think the fourth went to Quinton. The first obviously should since he dropped Forrest.
Rounds 1, 3, and 4 should have went to Rampage! If yo give Forrest a 10-8 round for round 2 then it should have been a draw at best! I always thought that to beat the champion you should have to decisevely beat the champion! I did not see that last night!
all this in question and Cecil Peoples wasn’t even a judge on the fight
yeah dana white should be thrown n jail for goin pride and haven forrest win (settin up fights) anyone who watched the fight knows forrest only won the second round.
What fight did u watch? Forest clearly took the 2nd and 5th as well and the 4th was a toss up. Also he was winning the 1st before getting dropped and the second was a clear 10-8 so he clearly won that fight. You just need to quit hate’n on TUF fighters because you think it makes you not a “hardcore” fan if you like TUF fighters. Face it even Rampage admited he lost.
how was the 4th a toss up? look at the damage Quinton did to Forrest in that round, he busted him up!! And the first round was completely even until Quinton poured it on and dropped him, thats a clear win for Page. The second was no 10-8. He didn’t do any damage to him! Rampage controlled Forrest’s posture. For you to get a 10-8 it has to be dominant, ex: Koscheck Rd 2 vs Lytle. That was ownage.
All you Griffin fans need to check urself and look at the fight objectively. Rampage did MORE damage, hurt Forrest MORE, and controlled the fight MORE. Was Rampage on his back ONCE after that 2nd round?! NO
Plus, this is a title fight. In my opinion you have to TAKE the champ’s belt. There wasn’t a mark on Rampage. He looked like he did when he entered the ring. THERE’S JUST NO WAY that that fight could’ve been scored for Forrest. NO WAY
rampage admitted that he lost the fight. why cant you?
In your opinion Anthony, a fighter has to TAKE the champs belt? Forrest did!!! didnt you see him walking out with it?
Yep, admit defeat. I did. Walk graciously in both triumph and defeat. That’s how it should be. That’s life!
I am more pissed at Rampage then I am at the Decision because Forrest haqd no choice other than winning a decision. In 25 minutes Rampage has the ability to finish anyone! AS fans we got jipped out of a highly anticipated title fight because there were about a million things that I did not like out of Rampage’s performance.
1) I did not like Rampages demeanor. From when he walked into the cage, he was flat footed, and laid back and honestly he did not come to fight. I think he highly underestimated Forrest and to me it llooked like he felt he did not need to be active and that he couuld just stand there, flat footed wait for an opening and Crack Forrest with a big shot and win the fight. iT was a very lazy effort by Rampage.
2) WTF was upp with Rampages game plan? Like we all knew, Forrest has no POWER what so ever and he could not hurt Rampage with any of his punches. Only damage he could do were the leg kicks. With that said, why did Rampage just sit in the pocket and wait for a counter punch? i dont get it! When u have all the KO power and you know that your opponent cant hurt you, your game plan should be ATTACK! If rampage would have kept attacking, Forrest would have kept retreating and wouldnt even be able to throw any leg kicks. When u are lucky enough to fight someone that you know cant hurt you, u have to bully him, keep attacking and backing him up, not sit in the pocket and look for a big counterpunch to end the fight. it was very lazy!
3) I am starting to think that Rampage performs much better in a 3 round fight then he does in a 5 round fight. In his fights vs. Hendo and Forrest, I feel that Rampage worried too much about saving energy for the 4th and 5th rounds that he did not open up enough and come to Finish the fight in the early rounds. In a 3 round fight, I feel Rampage will be more comfortable and push the pace looking for the big finish.
4) I think some X-factor worked against Quinton last night! He cleary under estimated Forrest. He showed Forrest No respect what so ever because he didnt fight. He stood completly still, let Forrest attack anytime he wanted, feeling that he could finish the fight whenever he felt like itwith a big counter punch. I dont know if it was under estimating Forrest or that the 9 month lay off hurt him, but as a HUGE Rampage fan, I feel really jipped out of a BIG FIGHT because he did not come to fight. Regardless weather Forrest deserved to win this or not, NO EXCUSES because Rampage did not fight even closely to his best fight and anyone who will argue with that is dillusional. He was not hurt and out of shape like Shogun was, he just didnt fight. AS a champion thats headlining a pay per view in a fight that we waited half a year for, he has to fight his best fight, and that was not close to fighhting up to his capabilities! I am disspointed in the decision because I feel like it was a BS one, but I am more dissapointed in Rampage because as a defending Champion, youo have to bring it and fight to the best of yoour capabilities and he clearly did not do that last nighht!
its MMA , not boxing, forrest=MMA FIGHTEWR rampage = 3 PUNCH COMBO POWER PUNCHER. when rampage punch’s he has no follow up. he should of took that stupid chain into the cage for help. go back to the drawing board rampage and get the full game, or you will be left behind
spell check FIGHTER,you know what i mean
JOHN. did it ever cross your mind that rampages lackluster performance was in part due to forrest. after that leg kick in the 2nd, rampage was alot less aggresive. i do agree with you though that rampage did underestimate forrest (alot of people did, almost every web-site writer picked rampage). i think juanito saw this in rampage and was tring to motivate him more with the guaranteed win. that was a costly mistake and put alot of undue pressure on rampage. i honestly hope they give MACHIDA the next title shot, not chuck. and rampage will probably get that 3rnder with wandi. uh-oh, rampage talked alot of smack about wandi in pride, before the forrest fight, saying the refs favored wandi by standing the fight up all the time, whats your take on that. if rampage is as good as everyone though he should be able to beat wandi in a 3 rnd fight. but i wouldnt bet on it.
Of course Forrest had something to do with Rampage’s lackluster performance, but before all the leg kicks, look at round 1…Rampage stood stil waiting for 1 big counterpunch….I have seen over 20 rampage fighst and thats not the fighter I am used to watching!
Aslo, look at his demeaner once he walked into the cage…Rampage didnt jump up and down, not once…No warm up, just stood flat footed….It was just a crappy performance, underestimating FOrrest mixed with Forrest fighting the perfect fight, made it a crappy performance by Rampage…IMO the worst performance in his career since he beat NINJA.
Not to mad withh the outcome, I am more pissed at the way Rampage fought and approached the fight…..I waited 9 months to see a Rampage fight…win/loose is not the point, that was not a Rampage fight that I am used to watchiing, and I feel Jipped out of what could have been a spectacular FIGHT!
War Griffin.
i hate to say i told ya so, but…
you can say it all night long and all tomorrow if you like adam!
…darn it…rampage!
you should’ve won that fight.
well at least we can get wanderlai silva vs. rampage.
griffin vs. winner of lidell/evans
loser of lidell/evans fights shogun
thiago silva vs. machida (this is the one i want to see)
sokoudju vs. jardine
then anderson silva can kick all their behinds!
lol!
Whats next? The only consolation prize I got as a fan out of last night was knowing that with out a doubt, Rampage vs. Wanderlei will take place at the new years eve event! I will gaurentee that right now, and if Rampage wins he has to be awarded an immediate Rematch because, I do not think he deserved to loose his title last night. If I was a judge I would have honesty scored the fight a draw. In my eyes, Rampage did not win the fight last night, but Forrest didnt win the title either. In a very close decision like that, the title should have not changed hands! Snce the beginning of combat sports, it has been said that you have to decisevely beat the champion to take his title in a decision! I did not see that last night! I dont thinkk you should win a title in a five round decision with a couple of leg kicks in round 2, and a few extra non effectinve punches in round 5….I just dont get it!
and a big HAHAHA to every jack arse keyboard fight master. that in all their supreme mastery of mma knew forest sucked and was gonna lose.god bless the internet mma know it alls your keeping jackassery alive and well.EAR POWER!
LMAO!!! I dont get why they cant man up and let it go?
why are you calling every one a keyboard fight master? your on here putting your thoughts too? thats almost all you have said.
i think its fuggin hilarious actually…
What kind of champion will Forrest be? Does anyone see him defending his title successfully? He has been out spoken about not wanting to fight Machida because he thinks that his style is Boring, but to me Forrest looked just like Machida last night! He landed some powerless strikes, then ran! Peppered Rampage with more uneffective strikes and ran away some more. But because Forrest is beloved and cant do any wrong in the eyes of the TUF fans, no one will have a problem with what Forrest did last night, but are quick to crucify Machida for fighting the same way and not finishing fights!
What kind of fighter will Forrest be? I think his best chance as a fighter is to become a submission fighter. He clearly has no power and isnt willing to bang anymore. I think we will see Forrest fight like this from here on out! Forrest will fight Lliddell in his 1st title defense and what we are going to see is more, peppering chuck with weak shots and running,….BUt he bad mouths Machida? I find that funny!
FORREST BORING? your boy rampage did not push the fight ,period. GTF OVER IT. forrest will fight machida. he wont duck him. just because he says they dont match up well, does not mean he will duck him, he has coture to game plan for him, rampage needs a coach!!!!!!!
JOHN.there you go. bashing forrest again. you give him props and then totally bash him over and over. whats up with that.
Now I am getting pissed off! Forrest WON!!! I said it a million times already, but all I asked is what kind of fighter Forrest will be, simply because he is evolving at such a fast rate and now u jump down my throat? I was asking a question, not to put Forrest down but because he has changed his style. All I was pointing out, is it seems to me that Forrest best chance to be effective is by fighting like Machida does….stick move, with a best chance of finishing the fight via submission….and u jump down my throat? Thats what makes me hate Forrest, the guy can do no wreong in so many peoples eyes.
I asked a simple question, not to diminish him, and u jump righht back down my throat! I acknowledge his improvement, but I aint ready to start blowing him either…wtf?
I was simply pointing out that Forrest bashed Machida for doing exactly what he did last night, but because its the goldenboy its OK, but when Machida does he gets crucified… WTF?
Keep in mind, I dont call Machida boring. I find his style very entertaining. Forrest is the one that said he wanted a more exciting opponent,and to me its seems like he will fight with the same gameplan as Machida from here on out!
dude You Need to relax. seriously.
miller and gurgel fight was awesome!
JOHN. MACHIDA not chuck should get the next title shot. maybee dana will do the right thing and force joe silva to makeit happen. chuck is 1 and 2 in his last 3 fights. machida is undefeated. as far as what kind of champion forrest will make, i think he will make a great one. i cant say how long he will hold the belt, rampage only had 1 defense, but i can promise you that forrest will not overlook or under estimate any fighter he faces and has an excellent chance of beating anyone at lhw. honstely though i think machida is the better fighter right now and forrest will be champ till he fights him.
I didnt ask that, I was simply asking what kind of fighting style do u think we will see from Forrest in the future? because the Forrest of old that fights like an idiot that just tries to please the fans is gone….I dont think we will see him bang it out any more, which is the smart thing for him to do….I see him fighting similar to Machida, thats all I was saying and you misconstrue it as me hating on Forrest…
Because Forrest is evolving so much, its hard to say what kind of fighter he will be…..What do u think? THe answer I am looking for is not a good or bad fighter…..What style do u think he will implement? Last night I thought he fought kind of Machida-ish! Which isnt a bad thing, Machida is one of my favorites!
I swear some of you are dislexic! READ THE WORDS AND INTERPRET TYHEM CORRECTLY! Even when I give someone credit you twist my words to make me sound like I am hating on the guy which I am not, I am just curious
to find out what his new style will be….because I doubt we will ever see him fight the way he fought Bonnar again……Smart move on his part!
forrest will change his style accodingly to each fighter. the leg kicks worked great on rampage, but wouldnt on wandi (just ask jardine). the style he used last night would work great on chuck. machida is extremly hard to make a good fightplan for, he’s a little like b.j. there’s no one else like him. it must be nice to have the master strategist randy couture mapping out the best plan on how to beat each fighter. no matter how much you dislike randy, or how much respect i have lost for him as a fighter, he is the best. fighting like machida is what forrest will have to do for now because of his lack of punching power. circling, using his hieght and reach advantage, leg kicks when viable, use his size and stength (he is stronger than rampage imo) and flat outwork the other fighter with great cardio ( the best at lhw along with wandi). does that answer your question?
what are you trying to say? I got a headache reading your post.
I watched this at the bar and i threw my beer in the air, glass and all, when they announced the decision went Forrest’s way! Iam so freakin excited right now. I can’t wait to see who he fights next. I don’t think it will be the winner of Chuck/Rashad but whoever it is better not take Forrest lightly like everyone seems to do with him because Forrest is on top of the MMA world right now!
Now UFC has its homer champion. That was worse than the Bisping Hamil robbery. Now UFC can sell more tickets and up the ante on pay-per-view hit. JOKE. Rampage took it 3-2 in my opinion. He had more power shots and did more overall damage. The judges were on crack. HORRIBLE. Griffin probally won’t even be able to defend the belt once-where’s Keith Jardin. GGGGGAAAAAAAAARRRRRRBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>
Sorry buddy but you are not even close on this one… Forrest took it 4-1… he dominated Rampage in the stand up and on the ground. Rampage had nowhere to go where he had the advantage. Forrest is a legit LHW Champion!!
i had it 4 to 1 also. page might have landed harder shots, but forrest landed way more punches and i think the kick ratio was like 200-0. i’m glad they dont let the fans pick the fights. get a clue….
actually he was right on. I even had it 4-1 Page. I mean Rampage other than the second round and a tight triangle OWNED that fight. Every combo came close to ending Forrest’s night!! that’s all you needed to look at
THat Triangle shoudnt count for anything! It was a submission attempt that Rampage countered with a POWERBOMB attempt, I cant see giving Forrest points for a submission attempt but not to Rampage for attempting to finish the fight by slamming Forrest on his back…..and unfortuynatley I thin thats was how the judges scored it!
Give it a rest John, you’re starting to look pathetic.
a submission attempt and the powerbomb will both count in the scorecard.imo
Get off Pages Nuts.
Calling Rampage “page” makes him sound like a girl…
He’s the Man, i love Rampage, He’s no girl. It just wasn’t his night, and now hopefully people will give forest his credit.
Rampage should have never let it go to the judge’s card! Forrest is Dana’s Golden Boy and I’m not sure what fight you all were watching, but there’s no way that Forrest won…. another suspicious fight for the UFC and all at the elevated rate of $44.95 on Pay per View. I guess the gas prices are somehow affecting the UFC too….
gas prices affect the whole economy.
hahahahahahah keep it tards your only hurting yourselves.lol
i know what fight i was watching and forrest almost broke rampage’s leg in the 2nd. i had 3-2 for forrest and could easily see the 2nd rnd as a 10-8 rnd for forrest. give the man his props. or did you lose alot of money on this fight?
Ya come on even Rampage admitted he lost. This was a close fight for sure but hands down Forest took it 48-46.
Come on BW! YOU are better than that! I lost money on the fight, a lot of it, but I am not blind either! Fights are not judges as a whole, even though I think they should be! THey are judged based by round! Forrest may have won the overall fight but the UFC doesnt score its fights that way, and it shouldnt have changed just cause the goldenboy was fighting. Because Forrest landed some Big leg kicks in 1 out of 5 rounds, that should not equal a win IMO. How can anyone give rounds 1,3,4 to Forrest? I just didnt seehow Forrest beat Rampage in any of those rounds and when fighting for the title its the challengers obligation t clearly take the title….. What we saw last night wont be seen to often in mma. In any other case, you have to clearly beat the champ to take the title, close fights will almost always be awarded to the Champion. Its not the champions job to win the fight, its the challengers job to take the title, and I dont think I saw that happen last night!
scroll up. thats an old boxing addage that doesnt hold up in todays world. the better fighter should get the nod wether he is the champ or not, and in this case he did. forrest was the better fighter last night.
damn people just cant face it when they are wrong. rampage was hurt very badly by the leg kicks and and people try to say he lost because he took nine months off. Wrong he lost because he got beat. oh well im happy
forrest also had about 9 months off so that is no excuse i completely agree with you there
Plus shoulder surgery.
I was told, that I was a tuf noob. But apparently the tuf noobs arn’t that bad. Come on john, V.mike and kevin. Weren’t you guys the ones saying forrest didn’t have a chance? If I grouped one of you together-sorry. I KNEW forrest was going to win, god help me if rampage says he was injured. Know we have everyone on the site saying they knew forrest was going to win the whole time, psssssh…
Yes, I was one that was saying that Rampage would win the fight via KO/TKO. ALTHOUGH, I would always include that they only chance Forrest has at winning is by decision.
wait wait, doesnt rampage owe forrest his whole purse for the fight going to a decision? haha
Fuk yall, I said it would happen. I love it. Griffin your my dog, I’ve been behind you from the start. Never thought otherwise. WAR WAR WAR. The future is bright you son of a bitch.
are you serious wtf, the only reason why the fight went the way it did with the decision is because griffin is ufc’s poster child and the first ultimate fighter winner. griffin should not have won the 4th and 5th rounds at all, i think that fight was bull and id love to see a rematch
dude were you watchin the same fight we all watched i guess not. i agree the scoare was off but forrest clearly won just be a man an admitt it. its funny how all the forrest haters are just talking about who rampage can fight now
After the fight, Forrest said they should rematch too. So if Griffin can beat Liddell and Rampage can beat Wanderlei/Machida it could happen. Or if both lose it could happen to sort out the pecking order.
BTW I think this was a win/win for UFC because they had been building Rampage up as a posterboy as well. He is very likeable and a dominate fighter. Plus he knocked out former posterboy Chuck Liddell. So take some time off and go watch the fight again in a couple of days. Just because Quinton landed a couple big shots and cut Griffin does not mean he won the fight.
Griffin pressed the action most of the fight. He was better on the ground even though he didn’t cause much damage. Those leg kicks were brutal. He landed way more shots. Plus he locked in a tight submission even though Rampage slipped out. If rampage had done better on the ground or had slammed Forrest a couple times (tried once and failed) it may have been closer. Or if he had been able to follow through with any of his big shots.
forrests coach= randy coture,rampages coach,the dude from saved by the bell, figure it out fellows, FORREST IS THE CHAMP!!!!!!!!!!!
hhaha if rampage forfeits his whole purse, it will have the same chances that juanito will retired… NEVER
rampage looked like crap. forrest looked better. unanimous decision though? that’s a stretch.
Its not a stretch at all… Forrest easily won this fight, 4 rounds to 1
I don’t understand people who think fights should be split decision. Like one judge makes three diferent numbers. If a fighter won he should win on all 3 judges card. I mean all judges are scoring based on the same thing, its not like one judge judges stand up one BJJ and another wrestling, why would you ever think something shoulda been split decision that is judge retarded. Honestly think before you speak (or type) next time.
Do you even know what a unanimous decision means? It just means all 3 judges thought he won. You think he shoulda won by split decision? What does that even mean, you think two judges shoudla thought Forrest won and one thought Rampage won?? Come on think before you say something. Your not the first person who I’ve heard say something like that either but it just doesn’t make sense you obviously just don’t understand life that well.
MY MAN, MY MAN FORREST GRIFFIN WINNING BIG AGAIN. I MUST SAY THE DOUBTERS OUT THERE PLEASE DON’T COME OVER TO GRIFFINS SIDE HE DOESN’T NEED ANY BAD LUCK.
maybe Wanderlei will KO jackson again and jackson can dissappear like shogun seemingly has.
Forrest the pridefighter killer griffin
lol at pridefighter killer Griffin.
TUF > PRIDE ?
Personally, I think it should be Forrest Balboa.
Ok so now that it went to a decision, and Rampage lost, does that mean he will pay Forrest his $225,000 purse to Forrest, via the very well known quote frm the TUF series (”I’ll betcha our fight don’t go to no decision…I’ll bet my whole purse on it!”). He said it I didn’t!
It was a close fight, and people were hatin’ on Forrest. Forrest may not be the best fighter in the UFC, but he keeps proving his is the biggest gamer in the UFC. The heart this guy has is great, love the outcome or hate it, you have to agree Forrest deserves and earns respect like very very few others in the UFC, or any other sport for that matter.
well said!
the fact is that forrest griffin did not win that fight. they gave it to forrest to prove that the ultimate fighter reality series is not a joke. rampage did more damage and was technically better than forrest. i dont care what anyone says forrest wont have the belt long ..war wanderlei!!!!!!!!!
Shut up.
so be it
so all the guys that comment on hear often seem like the have sense the people i don’t reconize are saying some crazy stuff. every play by play i even read makes it seem like forest wins yet people seem to ignore what realy happend. so rampage lost i was hoping he would win he didn’t but at least i can say i was wrong and i picked the wrong fighter to win forest won good job to him. still a page fan and more of a forest fan now cause he proved that he belongs.
i guess you missed the 2nd rnd when forrest almost broke rampage’s leg and had him in full mount the ENTIRE round. that was when the most damage was done and page wasnt a factor from there on out. joe-daddy won tuf, why didnt they “fix” the fight for him over b.j. this conspiracy theory is crap. watch elite if you want fixed fights.
you go keyboard fight master
Watch it again buddy! Forrest won easily!!
To everybody that is saying Dana White influenced the decision, please get some sense. He does not have any pick over the judges. All that is set up by an athletic commission, an outside agency. So put the conspiracy theories to bed.
U ppl hatin’ on the decision should watch the Rampage interview after the fight, he clearly acknowledged he lost. I gave 2,4,5 to Forrest, and the 4th been the closest, but i didnt see anything that Rampage did worth giving him the round, he even got caught in a tight sub, but he got out and his shots certainly didnt do nothing. Goddamn ppl! watch the fight again!
And no, im not biased, i like both fighters, plus all my friends who watched the fight were cheering for Rampage knew at the end that he lost, he even looked dissapointed before the decision.
the only reason rampage looked disappointed was because he knew that the judges were gonna give it to forrest…clearly the fans wanted forrest to win so why would they disappoint the fans…hometown fighter…just a joke man…disappointed with the judges..n how after the second round rogan was all on forrests balls…he said n i quote ‘Forrest is winning this fight…he has gone for more submission…” come on if your basing a fight on attempted submissions then weve got a problem…only reason forrest went for the submission was because he got taken down or he got rocked..if not for either one of those then he woulda stood up n scrapped.. meaning rampage controlled the fight and im pretty sure thats what you base a fight on…so much anger was poured and vented out with this entry
once again did you miss the 2nd rnd as well? rampage knew he lost and wouldnt have acted otherwise . why so much anger? do you hate forrest that bad, or did you lose money as well. give props where their due!
ENOUGH WITH THE 2ND ROUND ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read you type about it 100 times in this thread, you are literally 1/4 of the posts. Did you stay up all night and no sleep on Sunday just to type about it and call people out that picked Rampage to win???
I don’t know about you, but I get a much better feeling when I win money on a fight. Not bad mouthing someone on a message board that you will never meet.
Find a hobby…
I mean, if you know so gd much about MMA and picking winners, then grow a set of balls and open an account on BetUs. You would have made a killing last night! What’s your email, I’d gladly refer you, or if you’d prefer, for fights that we disagree on the winner, we can bet straight up. However, I’m not talking about making a bet that consists of changing my screenname on this site that like 100 people see, and only about 9 would notice. I’m taling about betting MONEY.
lol anger released on a website
lol! indeed!
Who Cares.
Ya he emphasis on the … bud. He also said he hurt his leg badly and landed more shots. He didn’t just say he’s winning because he went for more submissions. You post … made sense …
has vince machmon taken over ufc, WTF WAS THAT
Rampage should have NEVER let this fight go to the decesion. He was too tenative during the 5th round and wasnt attacking enough to try to close the distance. Last two minutes Rampage should have let the bombs fly nonstop. Besides the leg kicks early on. There was no indication Forrest was even trying to attempt a takedown. IF he was really hobbled by them and couldnt put any power into those hooks. That’s one thing. But even after that second round leg kick. Rampage was controlling the fight on the feet. He should havep pressed the fight in the 5th. Never leave the fight in the hands of the Judges.That being said. AS much as some of you may hate it. You can’t deny Forrest Griffin anymore. Tapping out Shogun and taking the Belt from Rampage puts him right up there. Was it a unanimous decesion. Hell not it wasnt. But that’s Rampage fault for not trying to close out.
who says forrest didnt deserve the win?? know one thought he was gonna get passed the first round (me included) he was pressing the whole fight! and lasted all 5 rounds…Rampage Vs the Axe murdere III!
U SEE HOW CLEAN RAMPAGE FACE LOOKED ?? COMPARE THAT TO FOREST
Forrest has some mean scar tissue on his face. A fly could land on his forehead and he’d probably get busted wide open. NOt as bad as Lytle though. Jesus.
by this rationality, nick diaz has lost every fight he has been in…………..
true that! blood on some ones face neans they lost? what a newb!
you cant call a fight on whos face looks worse, yet again another foolish comment
what?you saying forest didnt wash?so being unclean means somthing to judges?ohhh wait a min you mean the cut…yea ok cause a lil blood means who lost…..you pancake
GSP’s face was way more jacked up in the Penn fight. How fukd ur face is at the end of the fight does not dictate the outcome of the fight.
Forrest won but it was close because the later rounds rampage just started to edge! forrest could of won by stoppage but he stopped doing the leg kicks for 2 rounds! i actually thoughrampage won 2 or maybe 3 of the later rounds very close! so that makesme wonder how forrest wins if i give rampage 3 rounds? anyway im happy with the decision. silva’s chuck griffin rampage and others!!! imagine all the match ups!
i kenw forest was goin to win the whole time
i won a bet too.
Forrest / Machida!!!!!
No way… Machida needs to get in line! Chuck is next
You don’t judge a fight on if one person has a cut and another person doesn’t. People please don’t claim to be fight fans, or MMA fans and make that weak argument. There are many aspects to a fight. Look at the history of both fighters. In more than half of Forrest’s fights he bleeds like a stuck pig. Forrest has never really been cut bad in any of his fights, Pride or UFC.
Man, you people that just got on the MMA train in the last 2-3 years should really do your homework and look at the past, I mean before UFC 60 and you might begin to understand things a little better. When you make such silly statements, all you do is make yourself look un-informed and lacking understanding!
Sorry my mis-typing, I meant Rampage and Pride not forrest, but I think most will pick up on that!
Great point. If you actually knew what you were talking about anyways its often just the grazing elbows and punches that do the cuts not the shots that really hurt so that is a really really bad argument. One grazing elbow should win the fight over a ton more punches and leg kicks landed.
thats not the way the judges see it though in any fight. they score it on alot of things not just who does more damage. pride did it on who did more damage in the whole fight where as mma does the ten point must system which doesn’t work to well for mma.
mma in america that is. woops
All the judges had to do was a split decision.
That would (kind of) make sense at least.
There goes that. All that is left now is for Fedor to fall and it will be complete.
that is so true what a poor comment
I guess we get to see Liddell champ again.
Dude have you not learned yet don’t count Forrest out of any fight ever. Sure chuck’s the more technical fighter but so was Rampage Shogun and Tito and he won all of those (I don’t care what the judges said about the Tito fight). Jardine was able to through Chuck off with the leg kicks and Forrest could possibly do the same. Although I’d agree in a 5 round fight where Chuck can be a bit more patient his is extremly tough.
Sorry dude, IMO Tito won that one. It’s a pretty razor thin win though..
Weak. Weak. Your excuses are weak. Shogun had bad cardio and his knee was hurt. Rampage clearly dominated that fight it was fixed. It’s getting old. Give Forrest some credit already. What is it going to take for you to realize he’s for real? That was a very close fight. Yes Rampage landed more powerful shots but Forrest landed far more overall and had a more rounded attack. I was holding my breath with every swing Rampage took because I knew only one had to land and it could be over. But as soon as the bell rang on round 5 I knew Forrest had won. I love both these guys so no favoritism here. But it was pretty clear who won. Go back and watch it again after you have calmed down.
once again well said!
fron STINKY-FINGERS:
“i bet 15,000 on rampage
and a 40,000 parlay on
joe daddy-big dog-rampage.
also single bets on
10,000 on justin mccully.
5,000 on lytle and aurelio.
THESE BETS ARE A LOCK.
save your smack talk for after the fights when ur all telling me how great i am at gambling.”
you’re the best stinky. you’re the best.
haha now that is f’n funny
You’re the best I’ll think you when I go to Vegas in September and there’s a new expansion to the Rio that you paid for.
ha ha i remember that from a few days ago. is it just me or did sticky fingers stop posting on here?
he had to sell his laptop lol
Wow, he lost his balls on that fight. I would never gamble on MMA.
Thats so fuckin funny, he annoys me so much and its made my day how badly he got on.
lmao-
im right here boys!
I won money thank god for the under dog come on forrest
I wanted rampage to win, but he clearly got beat. before the decision you could even see it on his face (or that coulda been for it going to the judges period)
I just wanna say hey to to the person that wanted to talk junk when i said the only way i could see wuinton winning is be ko. who needs glasses now? (gotta be petty just one more time, eat a D***!)
ok now that all thats outta the way, sorry everyone. now to the real point
maybe this fight should be a good lesson to all of those who do that, let people have their opinions and dont be so critical of other peoples opinion on how a fight may go.
congrats Champ, even though i didnt want ya to win.
Stinky bum!
I have to say that I didn’t see the fight the way the judges scored it. I think it could have went either way and I wouldn’t have called BS regardless of who won it. It was like the Hendo fight that in my opinion was close as well. Rampage needs to stop letting these fights go to the cards. I’m really glad for Forrest, but I definately don’t think it was 49-46. Congrats to Forrest and I have to commend Rampage for taking the loss like a man.
Agreed. All good points.
great post! I saw Griffin out scoring him, but definitely was not 49-46!! I gave 48-47 Giffin. Rampage won rounds 1 and 3. The rest was all Giffin. Those leg kicks were poppin!
he tries to stop them but forest is trying not to be stoped i’m sure they were both trying to stop it. rampage couldn’t knock him out lord knows he tried.
This was a 3-2 decision for Rampage. Forrest had the one dominating round 2, and that’s it. Other than the 2nd round I felt that Rampage could of ended the fight if he could of followed up more when he hurt Forrest. Much respect to Rampage for making it out of round 2, Forrest should of finished him if he could of. Both fought a smart and tenative fight, but clearly Forrest did not do enough to be called the champion. If Rampage loses this fight by points then he should of lost the Henderson fight also. Again 3-2 Rampage, what B.S.
Forrest won,get over it.
HAHAHAHA i cant believe ppl judge mma based on how cut the fighters are, Rampage did only two things: won round 1 and round 3 for better combinations. Like i said, number 4 was all forrest, he clearly out pointed rampage, Rampage didnt give his heart out in this fight, Forrest was constantly hitting him and Rampage wasn’t active, Rampage did damage in short bursts, just a few seconds that didn’t hurt Forrest like they had to, except for round 1.
0% accuracy picking… great gambler stinky…….multimillionaire too
its only chump change to u right, since uve donated millions away
LMAO- didn’t he say ” i will be bragging after the fights”
hehehe
I don’t think we’ll see stinky for quite a while after those stanky picks!!!
dude i betted three golden deeath stars on forest i bet sinky anint got nothing on that.
funny thing is, you know he is silently reading these in the extra bedroom in his parent’s house, all pissed off….
at least he has his millions and his odd typing tendencies.
I like the way you put that. “…his odd typing tendencies.” Very polite. I think it’s retarded.
lmao-
really funny stuff guys.
i hate how all of these rampage fans cant accept forrest winning..it was a great fight and there’s no telling how things would have went if forrest didnt land that massive leg kick..but he did..and he is the champ. if you can go 5 rounds and beat rampage jackson, you can go 5 rounds and beat anyone, and thats a fact. the fight we need to se is FORREST GRIFFIN VS URIJAH FABER.
stinky says:
“i bet 15,000 on rampage
and a 40,000 parlay on
joe daddy-big dog-rampage.
also single bets on
10,000 on justin mccully.
5,000 on lytle and aurelio.”
so 15k + 40k + 10k+ 5k X 2= 75k of fake money down the drain
Funny as Hell.
you aint gotta lie to kick it stinky!
wow im famous!
this is great!
btw- i did lose alot of money.
but not as much as u think.
i had more bets then just that.
Ha ha ha ha ha, i love it.
Why are there so many Forrest haters?
Is it because he keeps beating your favourite fighters?
Shogun… Rampage…
Every1 needs to remember Forrest almost had a few submissions. That scores points. And he did the most damage with the leg kicks. Just cuz Forrest got cut doesnt mean he was losing…
The only person I still see beating Forrest is Jardine only because he mixes it up just as much if not more than Forrest, and has a little more KO power, and I dont think that fight will ever hapen because someone will always be there to KO Jardine (people like Wandy). I see Forrest beating everyone else in the division. Liddell would have a shot at beating him as well if he utilizes his takedowns.
thats why i hate forest it’s also why i respect the dude. but hey any man can come and beat or loose to forest machida i love i would pick machida in a fight but hey forest very well prove me wrong if that fight happens (and probably will) good thing i don’t bet haha.
lhw rankings
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Quintin Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Wanderlei Silva
5. Lyoto Machita
6. Mauricio Rua
7. Rashad Evans
8. Rameau Sokoudjou
9. Keith Jardine
10. Thiago Silva
Honourable Mentions: James Irvin, Matt Hammil, Goran Reljic, Anderson Silva(Pending)
Forrest shook up the most Stacked Division in the world, give him some applause.
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Shogun Rua
6. Rashad Evans
7. Wanderlei Silva
8. Thiago Silva
9. Keith Jardine
10. James Irvin or Matt Hammill
HA lyoto ahead of jackson, liddell, rua and silva are you kidding me he barely survived tito….
thats the ranks Machida is #2, do the reaserch
Lyoto would get killed by top tier guys who cares about the research, rankings are only opinions but it doesnt take a genious to see lyoto would get killed by quintin, chuck, wanderlei, shogun and probably forrest.
Machida should be #2 on everyone’s list.
i would’n give irvin an honorable mention. not for beating houston and realy i can’t think much else he’s done
submissions score points ? well then why didn’t digeo sanchez win against jon fitch then huh you forest nuthuggers , and when has forest actually WON by fighting and not by letting others (judges ) determine the outcome , wow i am done posting thoughts too much nuthuggery and negativity on this site and plenty of lame people too
Jonny don’t say something you don’t mean. You know you will be posting tomorrow. The point is no matter who won or lost, all of us as fans of MMA won! This was a GREAT fight. How quickly you so called fight fans forget 8-10 years ago when there was no decent MMA, and we were stuck watching marginal boxing to get our fight fix.
Love the outcome or hate it, my hat is off to both fighters, because they did something the rest of us could only dream about. You get out there and let it all hang out for five 5 minute rounds. Very Very few of us even know what that would actually take! This really opens up the Light Heavy Weight division for some great match-ups!
goodbye then! its past your bedtime anyway.
well i guess that will be 1 less lame person on here then.
ts the internet, anyone can say anything they want… hahah
i dont usually call people out, just those who talks hard and got expose
what does kimbo and stinky got in common? both are fake and got exposed now the world is laughing at them
forrest is on a role ,rampage is my man but he was the champ and he lost like a champ, listen to him after the fight.i just hope forrest keeps the title so the rematch is for the title.run forrest run cause everyone coming to get ya!!!! but forest dont run .
Ok people, Forrest isn’t Kimbo. This fight wasn’t fixed. Even Rampage acknowledged his loss.
Forrest just outscored him in the rounds. Sure his face was battered, but so was Jardine in his fight with Chuck and Forrest’s face in his fight with Shogun.
man what a fight, looked like his leg got hurt bad, forrest put on a great show and earned the upset, both guys are tough as hell, iceman vs forrest would be a good one
Agree, I see Forrest Winning though. I don’t see anyone beating him unless Rampage gets a rematch. Both are my favorites in 205.
mad props to forest but alot of people were saying that about page. who can beat forest i think machida maybe but a fighter with a great game plan will have to do it cause forest has great game plans but hey i could be wrong it it’s happend before
I think him and machida would be a really technical fight, but Lyoto always has the same boring gameplan, and i think forest will figure it out.
well randy will and forest will impement haha but hey thats why you have guys in your corner. i think it’ll be a realy tuff match cause macida isn’t know to finsh fighters but he isn’t known for getting hurt either. i hope i get to find out one day but i know alot of people find machida coring but i like him the whole tim during his fights i anticapating when he’ll attack like when he kneed tito in the kidney i jumped out of my seat.
i want to see machida agianst a good striker before he gets a title shot though, Tito is washed up and dosn’t prove much. I’m waiting for Liddel to lose to Evans then give Lyoto to Liddell, then he’ll beat liddel then He’ll retire and Lyoto can have his shot.
rampage looked like he didnt train at all! not once did he posture up when he was on top! he looked like a one trick pony! i was very dissapointed in him
If you like Rampage, you probably thought he was winning. If you like Forrest You knew he was winning.
Conrgats Forrest, I am stoked.
damn! i havent seen you here in ages! you should come back and blog some more, you were always pretty straight-up.
I used to like to blog here, just seems like there are too many people who really do not know what they are talking about. Don’t get me wrong there is still very good commenter’s here, I just can’t take the complete ignorance. That is why for the most part I am just a viewer. I am not sure if Mania sees that, but I hope he knows that some of the originals are still reading, we just don’t want to get bashed for our opinions.
I still throw a comment here or there though.
LAter,
Chris Valentine
You got to beat the Champ in order to be the Champ…. there is no way anyone can say that Forrest beat Rampage…. Maybe hung in there … maybe even competed ….. but he in no way beat Rampage. Everyone got a fighter they pull for… but being objective I just don’t know how to say Forrest beat Rampage. It was like Hamill /Bisbing fight…but when there is a belt on the line the rules scorecard should mean less. IMO I think if a fight goes to decision you must dominate the fight to take the belt away, otherwise it crap. Worst decision in UFC thus far. even after the second round that forrest dominated, did anyone see even a bruise on Rampage? any sign of damage? …. good night of fights but Super Shitty and Shady conclusion.
Page Nut Hugger, Let um Breath a little bit.
I agree with you, but I gotta say that you had a pretty tight hold on Machida’s beanbag a couple posts up.
Not really, I said he needs to fight a striker to earn a title shot, and that he’d beat Old Man Lidell.
Guys stop crying about who looked more physically hurt, that has no bearing on a fight, unless there is a cut that will not let the fight continue. Making comments like that show you have not true idea on what the scoring in fighting is all about.
Disagree with the decision, but don’t base it on the fact that Forrest was bleeding and Rampage wasn’t. Think about it, what do you think did more ‘REAL’ damage, a cut to the head, or those repeated leg kicks. Anyone who has fought in any type of martial arts will tell you, the cuts don’t hurt when you get them, but those leg kicks will throw off your whole fight. And they did and Rampage even admitted he gave up round 2 to try and recover from the damage of those kicks.
We all were pulling for one fighter or another, but please don’t come in with that weak argument and not expect to get punked for such uneducated understanding, or just foolishness of being a fan of one fighter over the other!
Bottom line, it was a great fight for us fans, regardless of who won. If there is a rematch, it will be hard to beat this fight as far as excitement, and I think we can all agree on that!
how can you see a bruise on a black man? lol . It was a close fight but to say there was no chance of Forrest ever winning this fight, you are a blind man. It could have gone either way. However, I do disagree with one of the judges scores 49-46. That is just plain ridiculous.
thats an old boxing addage, where the challenger has to stop the champ to win. not in todays world. only the better fighter deseves to win and he did.
Amen.
the way the fights are scored is why forest won no matter who the champ is. if this was pride in japan page more than likely would have won cause they score fights difrently over ther they go by who did the more damge during the whole fight here it’s ten point must system. and the ten point must system gets crazy when broken down almost makes it so every fight is scored difrently but forest won in the ten point must system way so he won fair and square.
very good point..and thank u for having some sense
lhw rankings
1. Forrest Griffin
2. Quintin Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Wanderlei Silva
5. Lyoto Machita
6. Mauricio Rua
7. Rashad Evans
8. Rameau Sokoudjou
9. Keith Jardine
10. Thiago Silva
Honourable Mentions: James Irvin, Matt Hammil, Goran Reljic, Anderson Silva(Pending)
Forrest shook up the most Stacked Division in the world, give him some applause.
were the hell did you come up with this
RAMPAGE WITH 1 LEG WON THE FIGHT ALL THIS IS BULLSHIT AND THE PEOPLE WHERE BOOING TO FORREST AT THE END OF FIGHT . YOU KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWN THAT RAMPAGE IS 100% BETTER THAN FORREST AND I BELIEVED IT WAS ALL ABOUT MONEY MATCH UP BETWEEN LORENZO AND DANA THEY KNOW THAT . FUCK UFC AND FUCK THE THIS CRAP.
I cant wait to see the spider hold both belts
He won’t.
No way does Forrest beat Rampage. Forrest fought a good fight and deserves a lot of credit..but you got to beat the champ to become the champ. Other than round 2 Rampage has more damaging blows to Forrest,and other than those leg kicks Rampage blocks he takes everything Forrest has. Rampage fights to tactical now, with a little bit of aggression and follow up he would of disposed of Forrest quite easily. Rampage should of won this decesion but if he fought like this against Machida or Anderson Silva he would clearly lose. I can’t see how Anderson Silva will be beat by anyone in this division. Should be an intersting 12 months ahead.
Rudy made the Notre Dame team and got a tackle in his last play.
Forrest did great, he fought as well as he possibly could have, and he deserves the win. There will be no rioting in the streets over the decision.
However, I was surprised he won the fight, by UN, as well. I thought the fight was even going into the last round. Page took 1 in dominant fashion. Forrest came back and took 2 and three. Rampage took four. 5. The last round was even most of the way. I thought whoever put on a flurry at the end was going to cement the win. But no one did, and I thought Rampage had the more meaningful shots in the round.
It’s one of those things. Old school is that the tie goes to the Champ. If you’re going to take his belt you’ve got to beat him. But Rampage kind of made his bed by claiming this wasn’t going to decision. Well it did go to decision, and to decision against the last guy in the world you want to go to decision against: Forrest Griffin, the most beloved guy in MMA and the beneficiary of another razor close decision which made his career: the TUF finale.
Forrest totally deserves it. It was inspiring how game he was. He won it with that leg kick. And he sure ain’t chinny now, huh? He took a great punch. Rampage had a shot to finish him and he didn’t. Forrest certainly has his respect now. And every else who didn’t give him a snowball’s chance of winning this.
Forrest/ Chuck then, eh? I wouldn’t put anything past Forrest now. But he’s going to have a line of guys queued up like a scene from Airplane. Chuck, Wandy, Anderson Silva, the Rua, Page rematches, Machida… Damn.
Guess Forrest gets his own sports drink now. You know you’re somebody when you get your own sport’s drink.
Congrats to Forrest “out of a Tree” Griffin
Round 1 in dominating fashion? Forrest was getting the better of every exchange for the first 3:30 of the round. Rampage caught him pretty good late. I thought that might be enough to swing the round to him, but the judges scored the entire round, not just the last minute. It was pretty much that way through the entire fight. Forrest was landing lots of punches and kicks, Rampage landed much fewer shots, but they did a little more damage. And Goldberg was crediting Rampage with shots that weren’t landing cleanly or at all. Griffin fought better the entire way and deserved the win.
Disgusting! I don’t think I’ll ever watch a UFC event again unless GSP is on there… I’d actually like him to leave the UFC and fight for Affliction…. Rampage should clearly still be champion… I’m appaled!
I’m appled.
And my friend is aapald.
i would really like people to talk about this because i can’t believe its never brought up. people watching fights need to watch them WITHOUT bias if they are to truly know how it should be scored. i watched this fight in a sports bar and fans stand up and scream for their respective fighters no matter how effective that fighter is being. rampage throws a right that misses by 3feet and the jump up and down, forrest briefly locks an americana and they scream. i watched this fight without volume, and without bias(since i like them both) and when the fight ended i wrote down how i scored it on a piece of paper. forrest 48-rampage 46-. i typically dont like the 8 pt round scoring, so 48-47 is fine by mean but forrest was a pretty clear winner in terms of EFFECTIVE fighting. just because you like a fighter(or on occasion rogan does) doesnt mean you shouldnt pay attention to how the fight actually goes, or how fights are scored. it helps a lot to have actual knowledge about the sport before getting into rants and arguements about it. just like when baseball “fans” boo at pitchers for picking off, it’s just a general lack of knowledge in the sport. i wish this was talked about more.
judges were so biased it should have at least been a split decision
so one judge should have thought rampage wins but other two the he lost? umm it doesn’t work that way
Does that mean Forrest gets the Pride Light Heavyweight belt as well?
Haha!!I guess he should!
The PRIDE belt is only worth slightly more than a urinal cake at this point in time.
THAT FIGHT SUCKED ASS. WHAT A JOKE. RAMPAGE IS AN ASSHOLE. HE SHOULD HAVE JUST RESIGNED INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THIS CHARADE. WHAT A WASTE OF CASH.
Well argued.
man i put $500 on Jacksons and $100 on Lytle.people are going to argue both sides on why Jackson lost and Forrest won, but here’s the real truth, my two favorite fighters are Arlovski and Rampage.Rampage most definitly did more damage and was a bigger risk to Forrest.i believe te score was off but Foresst mos def out pointed Jackson b/c forrest shots did only one thing,SCORE POINTS!!!it was was close but I tip my hat to Forrest,you truely are a trooper.i dont think,for whatever reason,that Rampage was hitting on all 8 cylinders and call for an immediate rematch.p.s. Forrest is all heart and mark my words,he will not,WILL NOT hold this belt long.not b/c i dislike Forrest b/c i do, i, like many others thought Jackson would smoke him.so i guess i’ll admit i was wrong. Forrest out worked him,but by no means beat him.
dout of curiosity do you think page would have won in the old pride rules cause i do but in the us rules i give it to forest (it’s niether here no there but just a fun thing to ask i guess)
Oh my f*cking God! I just got back in, no bar I wanted to go to had the fights, so i thought i would just hang out and post later. i come home to see that Forrest won. WTF! I don’t even know what to say , I missed the whole damn thing cuz i thought i “knew” who would win! Well, I’m a complete dumb@ss, and now i have to wait to see it!
you ppl are all out of your minds..if we are scoring fights on leg kicks..let’s give griffin the fight..if we’re scoring it on anything else then shut your beaks and remember what we watch ufc for..unanimous decision!!?!?! i thought hammill v. bisping was a black eye for the sport..
war don king looking like dana white..
sad sad day for mma..
As a griffin and rampage fan(but I’ll be honest i definitely wanted Forrest to win) i saw the decision going to griffin. The 1st was Forrest’s until he got rocked and i Did give it to Jackson. The second was domination by griffin and i didn’t know if it was 10-9 or 10-8 but after i heard the announcers i got wishful thinking and hoped for 10-8. I expected the third to be more leg kicks like the second and another big one for griffin but was disappointed to see page using better footwork and avoiding the kicks and gave the round to Jackson 10-9 for sure. the fourth was a close round just like all of them sans 2 and i gave it to griffin, and the fifth was another close one but griffin was winning more of the exchanges and i gave that to him aswell. haters will hate, but I’m happy to see the frequent posters that chose rampage that have actually responded are being mature unlike some others ^^^^. thanks VM for being cool about it, jonny could take a page out of your book in spectator sportsmanship, but by the sounds of it jonny is ready to leap outta of his mom’s computer chair and start slapping people with his ergonomic keyboard ala “Wanted” which is a great movie for those who haven’t gotten the chance to see it(if you can ignore the physics that it’s NOT possible to make bullets curve). those claiming jackson won can b#tch all they want but the scores are in and most of us saw it griffin’s way. Very close fight but he did win end of story… no it isn’t i expect a rematch in 2009, but Griffin v. Jackson I
is in the books, “Good fight, Good Night”
this decision was as weak as the kimbo/thompson fight. there’s no way forest deserved the decision. i know everybody thought that forest winning would mean better matchups for the ufc, well maybe the ufc thought the same thing and had forest win. it’s business. but there is no way forest deserved the belt with his performance. this stinks just as bad as the kimbo/thompson match if not worse.
Never Compare the Griffin and Page fight to Hoe Slice and Thompson.
I respectfully disagree. IMHO there is no comparison. Griffin outworked and outstrategized Jackson. If anything, the ref could of called it for Forrest in the second round where Jackson was in the relatively same position as Kevin Ferguson was in (getting dominated).
I agree, this fight was not that clear cut. I gave the win to Griffin, but by a close margin. Jackson generally looked more threatening on the feet but Forrest used foot work and, in some cases, his “jits” to make the champ look like he was in trouble, at least with the mount and the near triangle. Good fight, I just wish Jackson would get a new camp and take much less time off.
damn you all i*iot mma fans who still searching & searching for a Rampage lost! fu** you guys! give a guy some respect who beat a champ!
dam* you all i*iot mma fans who still searching & searching for an excuse for a Rampage lost! fu** you guys! give a guy some respect who beat a champ!
we’d give the guy respect if he clearly beat the champ but forest didn’t clearly beat the champ. by the judges score cards, it smells of set up. the ufc will benifit from rampage losing, and that’s what happen. at the worse, it was a draw, anything else went to the champ, and i wanted forest. this decision smells to much like elite xc……..
no a young blck man with a great sense of humor being champ in the ufc is great it brings black people to the ufc and and white people love black cuture so to say not haveing rampage as the champ is better for the ufc is well wrong
never leave a fight for the judges to decide.
rampage looked chubby, ithink he took forest for grantede and got outworked. ufc should boot rashard and makr chuck v rampage for a title shot.
forest being champ kinda makes tito look good
I think Evans is going to beat Chuck, so all these people saying Chuck is going to beat Forrest won’t see it happen while Forrest is Champ.
That was awhile ago and Forrest really progressed in all facets. Besides a large percentage think that that decision was terrible and Forrest won it. Bygones….
And how about this point…If indeed forrest put the Ufc ” on the map” and thats the reason y he won this fight…how come he didnt get the decision against tito…which he clearly won..
Nice to hear a comment from another member of the “reality based community”.
so now rampages coach has to retire (what ever his name is) he said he would retire if rampage lost, i guess he’s not under estimating forest now
Damn I was really hoping Rampage would win…
But i knew there wastrouble right when Rampage stepped in the ring because he looked soft…
Did anyone else notice that he did not look in as good as shape as he did during the Lidell and Hendo fights…
Also, when he came out his head movement looked slow (take another look at when he fought Lidell)
What was up with him saying to Joe Rogan that he will never take 9 months off again?
Props to Griffin though!!!
Rashad had trouble taken Tito down..you really think he will beat Liddell…That would be a shocker…
Janito! yes! him and rampage rubbished forrest in everyway! they said bonner won! they said shogun was past it! they said forrest had no footwork! they said he had no power! they said he had no chance and janito would retire!
everyone who is complaining about the decision should stop whining that it was a set up and start talking about changing how fights are scored. clearly the judges favor fighters who are more active and forrest was the more active fighter in that fight. that’s the only excuse for giving forrest round 1. clearly they felt that how active he was made up for the fact that he got knocked down. because there is no denying that he was winning the round before the knock down. since there’s no rule about deducting points for knockdowns, it’s up to the judges discretion how significant it is. and in my opinion, the fact that forrest got up at the very end of the round helped his cause a lot in terms of how the judges scored it.
The only fighter I can count on is Anderson Silva. He needs to come up to 205 and destroy all these weak fighters. Nobody is super dangerous like a fighter should be-except for Anderson Silva. Rampage is like Apollo Creed he is a tough guy who just like the glam and fame. Anderson Silva fights in the jungle and finishes fights. Rampage barely beat Henderson. Silva choked out Henderson in the second round. Anderson Silva is a true fighter. Anderson will out box Liddell, out Muai Thai Wanderlai, out dirty box Couture, out kick Forrest, out and out anybody on the ground, and out speak better english then Joe Rogan.
Money and FAme gets to your head unless your a badass like Anderson Silva watch out James Irvin your about to GTFKO.
I had the bout scored 48-47 in favour of Griffin after 5 rounds.
It was a very close fight to be fair, but I thought Griffin won rounds 2 and 4 and Rampage won rounds 1 and 3. In the final round, Forrest just seemed to want it more and was the aggressor.
Rampage looked a shadow of himself to be honest. He threw the cleaner punches and combinations but never seemed to push the pace and sustain some pressure. The injury to his left leg seems to discomfort him massively. He never looked at ease and Forrest capitalised on that.
Forrest executed his gameplan well, he came out the traps well in the first round until he was floored by the big uppercut. His kicks were very effective in the second round and although when he had Rampage mounted he didn’t do much damage, he totally nullified Rampage’s opportunity to attack. I thought he shaded the fourth round because of the two submission attempts that almost caught Rampage out and in the fifth round, like I say Forrest showed more aggression, desire and heart.
I think this will be a wake up call to Rampage. After getting past Henderson and Liddell, it appeared to me as if he was thought he was untouchable and perhaps got complacent. The long break from the Octagon was more telling for him too. I think it didn’t affect Forrest as much because he has fought in the UFC for years, whereas as Rampage’s UFC career is only 4 fights old.
This result really has turned the whole division upside down and I think it’s difficult to see what fights emerge from here, as many expected Rampage to dominate the division for a long period of time.
rampage won
I guess somebody better tell him, because he let that guy with the big ears take his belt home.
lol. good one.
rampage won? more like rampage oh-and-one
Wow. Round 2 Forrest just whipped his ass!
If his leg kicks hurt Rampage that bad, Jardine would paralyze him.
Juanito said he would retire, AND Quinton said he would bet his whole purse that it wouldn’t go to a decision.
The whole fight was a joke. Rampage did not look like himself. There was either something else wrong, or he was bribed to lose, because Dana White wanted a more marketable fighter in the of the LHW division.
The decision was bull shit. 49-46? Did those judges even have eyes?
just so i’m straight … rampage was paid to lose, but then he won anyway, so the judges had to screw him. does he get to keep his bribe then?
A more marketable fighter? Half of the guys on this blog are weaping that Rmapage lost. He’s pretty damn marketable, but whatever. You tell yourself what you have to to be able to sleep tonight.
I tihnk i may have watched a totaly different fight.
i don’t understand how someone wins a fight for being an aggresser if he gets punched in the face for the entire round. if i give forrest a 10-8 for the 2nd round, which i don’t think it was deserving of, i still had him losing the fight.
unbelievable
I had the fight scored 47-47. Rampage won rounds 1,3, and 4 10-9, Forrest got round 2 10-8, and round 5 10-9.
Did you remember to text in your vote? Because that’s how they decide fights now, by text messages from dudes watching at home or in a bar, not by trained judges.
lol. good point
I predicted Forrest would last into the 3rd round and show he belonged but man… I didn’t think he would win. Congrats to the new champ and Dana will be walking on air because his buddy Chuck won’t have to face Rampage again to try and win the belt back.
rampage jackson KO’s chuck liddell to regain the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship.
Two of the cards were forrest three rounds to Two, but had Forreset winning the second round 10, 8….which no one should be able to disagree
so forrest, you the man
Rampage clearly underestimated Forrest & paid for it. I had Rampage down for an easy win but Forest showed true heart, had a game plan and stuck at it. Im a Page fan but coming into the last round I know Forrest had won unless Page got a TKO or KO.
The decision opens up many more fights now that I want to see Page in,Rua,Wandy,Chuck,A Silva which can take place quickly & more frequently now he is a champ. We can all sit here and bitch and moan about what could of or should of happened but it has so we just need to get over.
Just got my UFC89 tickets as well so who cares!!
I predicted that Forrest would win - I just thought that he would outlast Jackson. I never thought that his leg kicks would be the deciding factor. Forrest won this fight but IMHO it was more of a squeaker than the cards seemed to indicate - but that’s the way things go in a binary system. Jackson clearly rocked Forrest on numerous occassions. I wasn’t sure how the judges were going to compare that to the three or four clear leg kicks that Forrest delivered for every good punch that Rampage got in. Forrest outworked Rampage. This outcome is actually good for the UFC.
Forrest’s kicks have been amazing, but to give him the fight solely based on that seemed awkward to me.
And the ruling, oh boy. 48-47 (ok), 48-46 (erm), 49-46 (are you friggin kidding me!?!)
I scored it:
First round: 10-9 Rampage
Second round: 10-8 Forrest
Third round: 10-9 Rampage
Fourth round: 10-9 Rampage
Fifth round: 10-9 Forrest
47-47
So a draw really, could have went either way, but who really scored 49-46 ? Then of course, even before the decision the UFC only shows recaps of the leg-kicking. Props to Rampage for playing along and being humble, knowing that acting up would secure him a bad spot with Dana and Joe Silva.
Well, this may be the disappointing talking, but Rampage’s promise, to never take 9 months off again (for TUF) might indicate what the reason for a sub-par Rampage was. He was heavily overweight during TUF itself and out of shape, don’t think he’d agree a second time to coach the show.
I got the same result
Part of the reason he took 9 months off to do TUF was because he broke his hand on Dan Henderson’s head.
yo wheres stinky fingers at.giving it the jonny big bollox the other day about how rich he was and how much money he was betting.he called every single fight wrong!!!i love it when boasters come unstuck.hes probably crying into his beer.
hehe I was thinking about that too…
“mccully is gonna win trust me..”
I had round 1 10-9 Jackson, round 2 10-8 Forrest, round 3 10-9 Rampage, round 4 10-9 Rampage and round 5 10-9 Forrest. That totals to a 47-47 draw and I knew that wouldn’t happen and figured they would give forrest the nod. Over all I think Forrest definatley won the fight and I agree with the decision.
It was a close fight but the judges got it right. When is Juanito’s retirement party?
No offense, but if they would’ve called the fight a “draw”, it would’ve been a terrible blackeye for the UFC. And it would’ve tied down the division even more than it’s already been.
Rounds 1 and 4 were Rampage
Rounds 2 and 5 were Forrest
And given how Forrest did in Round 3, I gave the round to him. Rampage, IMO, really only won Round 1 convincingly. Forrest won 2 and 5 convincingly.
No one here is a judge and I doubt anyone here knows how to really score a fight much less win one in a pro arena.
FG one the fight as it was called Rampage did not train, did not look in shape at all so he lost to the better fighter of the night.
1.) Juanito ain’t retiring anytime soon. It’s all talk to hype the fight.
2.) Rampage wont be giving Forrest his fight purse. It was just talk in the heat of the moment. Besides, everyone knows a bet between men isn’t solidified until they shake hands on it.
Now that I got that outta the way, I’m here to eat some Crow and I hear they’re serving it up nice and hot ’round these parts!
Anyone familiar with my posts knows I’m an avid Rampage fan and have been since Rampages PRIDE days. I’m still in disbelief about the outcome of this fight. SO much so that I had nightmares about it lol!
I’ll give Forrest his props because he was definitely the better man last night. I’m not a Forrest “fan” but I do appreciate what the guy brings into the cage. Although I’m disappointed about Rampages loss, I have to congratulate Forrest on sticking to the gameplan which won him the fight.
i just think i sucks that i had a good comment posted earlier and Mania dicked me and didnt post it. i had good points and finally got to give a response to the guy who was talking all that good Sh*t when i said the only way i could see quinton winning is by ko. who needs glasses now? it would be nice if that most the keyboard jockeys that were so critical of everyones opinion on the fight, would talk half as much about how wrong THEY as they did bashing other people before the fight.
just goes to show everyone needs to be less critical of other peoples picks.
i liked this site, but its too picky and choosey with things. reading down the comments, there are people who said alot worse. done with this site, im over it.
I don’t know what those judges were watching. I thought Jackson won 47 - 46 but it could have went either way. To give Forrest a 10 - 8 round was wrong and to give Forrest 4 out of 5 rounds was ridiculous. The 2nd round the only damage he did was the one leg kick. He did nothing on top and Jackson got to rest his leg. Where’s the 10 - 8 in that? Oh well Dana’s plan worked out. Take Jackson out of training for 9 months and then get his boyfriend the belt with some blind judges. I’m not taking anything away from Forrest he could have easily won 3 rounds to 2, but when those results came out I knew there was something fishy. Even the crowd booed and they were pro Griffen. They should rematch so Jackson could refocus and train how he’s used to. He looked dry coming into the fight and not very loose.
Forrest was out the same amount of time as Page. They both had surgery. Get it together Chern..
Forrest was out the same amount of time as Page. They both had surgery. Get it together Chern..
I wonder also where the judges were sitting last night. Joe Rogan was doing some serious Forrest nuthugging last night. He was calling that fight like Rampage was not even in the ring. I mean I do not think it was the most impressive Rampage out there, but what ever happened to bringing it to the Champ. I think that has to be done in order to get the belt. If the Champ walks out of the ring no worse for the wear and the challenger looks all mangled and bloody and has the belt there is something wrong there. Even in the second round when Forrest had top control, he did nothing with it. Granted Rampage didn’t improve, but he did nullify a full mount for 2 minutes. How many times can you remember someone being mounted for that long and not taking any damage. I think Rampage should have been awarded rounds 1,3,4 with a questionable 5. These scoring prinicipals are insane. I think Cote was completely nullified and Almeida should have won that fight as well. Cote actually had the balls to say he left it all in the ring at the end of the fights? Did anyone else see it ALL out there because I sure as hell missed it? Ahhh what a terrible night of decisions and hopefully fighters will start leaving it all out before the judges ruin MMA like they did boxing…
good points
goldie was up rampages ass, so that evened it out. who do you think is more knowledgable? it aint goldie.
how could this be a set up for marketing reasons???? look at how many rampage nuthuggers are out there, he was a very marketable man. he was marketable to all of you, he was popular. the ufc didnt need forrest to win, they were doing fine with rampage as champ. its definately not a black thing either, look at the middlewieght champ. 3 rounds to 2 forrest, but it was close
forest wont have that belt for long thiago will give him a ass wooping
forest won have that belt for long thiago silva will take it away
and make him look like nothing
Are you kidding me? Thiago Silva hasn’t even fought a top ten yet and got rocked hard in his last fight.
i think forrest lost personal he look horriable and only thing that was working for him was the leg kick no mark on rampage not forrest around and dropped when he did get rampage in a submission just like a true rampage fight he got dump on his head and let go plus forrest don’t even wont to fight the next in line with lyoto that no champ i say it was just so they can get a rematch
What a croc I thought you had to beat the champ to win the title which did not happen. The ufc is the new WWE and dana white is the new vince. This is like boxing; is the mob behind this to make money on the bets or is dana just so caught up in his ego he has lost his ability to keep his business from utter distruction. Nice job dickhead now I don’t want to watch!
Get over it, awesome fight and Forrest won because he had a hell of a game plan… And don’t ever compare UFC to that shit they call wrassling (WWE) what a fucking joke!
do your homework about thiago silva it doesnt mean he has to fight pupular hype ufc fighter to be consider top ten in your books
Pretty good fight and I agree with Machine. You have to give Forest a lot of respect. He just wins especially by decision so he’s the kind of guy that you can’t let the fight go to the cards. Rampage was really affected by those early legs kicks which Rampage seemed to avoid much better later in the fight. Wished he hadn’t allowed them so much in the beginning.
I think Rampage looked a little softer around the middle coming into the fight I guess due to lack of training. He looked big (as in outta shape) on TUF and I wondered if he would be able to lose all the extra weight for this fight. He made weight but he didn’t quite look as lean as usual.
As far as the scoring goes, I guess we have a lot of opinions on here about that. Like most people who followed boxing before MMA, there was a belief that you had to really beat the champ to take his title. Back in the day, that might have been true but I don’t think it applies now or at least doesn’t apply in the most of the UFC fights I have seen. I was one of those people who watched the fight last night and initially thought it was close and would be a split decision. But really it’s dumb to think that way just because a fight is close. All 3 judges can still score a close fight all for one fighter thereby making it a unanimous decision. I forget what the judges scores were but I think most we’ll agree that the 2nd round could have been scored a 10-8 round and was the difference maker in the fight. I don’t think Forest will hold the title too long and Rampage will be back.
why do so many think that dana is so happy with forrest winning. i think he would have been just as happy with rampage winning. rampage was becoming a big star and was really going mainstream and has a perfect personality for tv. forrest is marketable, but not nearly as much as rampage is. dana isnt bringing these fighters in from pride to get their bitts kicked and say “i told you so”, he’s brining them over because he knows their good and wants to make the best fights possible.