forrest griffin ufc light heavyweight champion
Forrest Griffin is the new light heavyweight champion of the world, which means it’s time for Juanito Ibarra — the trainer for Quinton “Rampage” Jackson — to retire.

Probably won’t happen.

Regardless, MMA’s version of Alfred E. Neuman (as Randy Couture often refers to him) now holds the sport’s most coveted title … and, as usual, he was the most unlikely of champions.

It’s a journey that has come full circle for the man who has been credited for putting mixed martial arts on the map with his win over Stephan Bonnar at the conclusion of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) world debut.

But he endured (as usual) to win a five-round unanimous decision over the much more experienced Jackson. He used a methodical, careful approach that leveraged leg kicks to minimize the punching power of the heavy-hitting Tenessee native.

And it worked.

Griffin survived the onslaught and defied the critics — and the champion — to topple Jackson, taking the fight on all three judges scorecards.

Jackson was gracious in defeat, admitting that he was not the better man (even though the final result did not seem to mirror the final decision … it didn’t appear to this writer to be as clear cut). However, it’s a result that is not only unexpected, but throws the division in upheaval.

Perhaps it’s all for the best — now we can see Jackson take on Wanderlei Silva for a third time before the 2008 fight campaign expires. And more than likely we will see Griffin take on the winner of the fight between Chuck Liddell and Rashad Evans later on this year.

Good stuff … I guess.

July 6th, 2008    

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Comment by scoob
2008-07-06 00:16:34

Just an awesome fight… congratulations Forrest

Comment by g-money
2008-07-06 00:52:34

setup fight. vegas won alot of money on people betting on rampage and vegas knew that, it looks more like crooked fights. like the fisrt franklin vs. silva fight, franklin just let silva punish him against the cage, no blocking it or nothing. same with wec with the urijah vs. pulver. pulver knew he could wreck urijah with those lefts.. fights have all been rigged based on bets. they know how much in bets there has been made even weeks before fights…

just take it in stride and dont get to involved with the outcome. the people know who won and when the judges dont see it the same way as the fans you know it was a set-up fight.. did rampage even get mad like when chuck liddell punch him before he knocked him out?

Comment by WayofTheWarrior
2008-07-06 09:46:57

interesting….sure looks that way if you watch closely

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Comment by daz
2008-07-06 10:02:57

you also support AREA 51, SASQUATCH’S, THE BOOGY MAN,OH AND ELVIS PUMPING GAS IN OHIO, get over it you predicted a rampage win, and he did not. he is a one dimmensional fighter, successful with brute power, but one dimmensional he needs to get a new coach who will bring him into the real mma game. ground , grappling, submissions.GOOD WORK FORREST

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Comment by Brian
2008-07-06 10:10:51

“Boo Hoo now i am a bitch to an ex-champ.” Get over it. Rampage lost. What? RAMPAGE LOST! I knew this would happen some of us said Forrest would win and were called idiots and such. If Rampage won I would have given him the props because if you leave it in the judges hands well then that’s your fault. But Forrest won and now he was on the grassy knoll. You IGNORANT semi-fans make me sick. Oh by the wasy, did I mention RAMPAGE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Comment by BobC
2008-07-06 11:01:36

Sorry, g-money, but that’s not how Vegas works. Think of it as a balance/scale–the more money that gets bet on one side, the more the odds shift to favor that guy, and the lower the payout when betting on that fighter. When this happens, people have a larger incentive to bet on the underdog, so the money shifts to that side a bit.

The only thing that casinos set is the initial line, and after that, they follow the money, moving the line to make an equal risk/reward on both sides (they want to make money regardless of the outcome).

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Comment by Brian
2008-07-06 11:09:27

scoring the rounds was
1. rampage 10-9 only b/c of the knockdown
2. forrest 10-8 total domination
3 + 4. 10-10 WOW. great fight
5. forrest 10-9 pushing the action

oh I forgot the judges cheated and there is a Santa.

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Comment by TrueMMa
2008-07-06 12:55:26

Go ahead make exuses for Rampage. Its what I expect. Cause we all know Forrest cant beat Rampage! Wait, he did just beat him so lets not all make excuses as to why. He just did. Pay out my ass.

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Comment by deuce 4
2008-07-06 21:06:08

beat him, yeah right, the only way forrest could hurt rampage was with those leg kicks. he never once staggered rampage with a punch, or even hurt him for that matter. forrest said all of rampage’s punches hurt, but none seriously hurt him, did he forget that he was knocked out in round 1, even though he recovered. i thought it was a lackluster fight on both fighters part. rampage because he wasn’t too aggressive, and forrest because he was soooooooo afraid of rampage, he looked like a fly biting a human, go in for a quick bite then fly away as fast as possible when the human makes a motion toward it

 
Comment by Brian
2008-07-06 21:44:15

Douche 4 must have been watching some other fight.

 
Comment by Goatboy
2008-07-07 08:16:15

It’s called a strategy you dunce! Most people would think it’s stupid to stand in front of a guy who knocked out Liddell. I guess you also didn’t like that Forrest let go of the triangle before getting slammed into unconsciousness? And Rampage wasn’t too aggressive because he was limping from all the leg kicks. I suggest you take one and tell me how your leg feels.

 
 
Comment by TrueMMa
2008-07-06 12:57:02

G-money. equals full of shat. Payoffs my arse.

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Comment by Cool Hand Chad
2008-07-06 16:33:47

G-Money sounds like a cry-baby to me. What fight were you watching????

Forrest won that so easily. The only round that I would have clearly given to Rampage was Round 1. After that it was not as close as you’re making it out. Rampage got beat. Stop with all the conspiracy theory bullshit.

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Comment by Robert
2008-07-06 21:21:11

Anderson has been doing that to EVERYBODY!!!! fORREST also beat SHOGUN!!!!!!!!!!! you make noooooooooo sense!! I feel sorry for you. Making comments like this only shows how little you know about MMA. Trigg nailed it, when he said Rampage had a soft camp and Forrest trained his butt off./ I supposed Trigg was in on it with the Vagas “men” as well.

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Comment by c-war
2008-07-06 00:57:53

I just really wanna rub this in John’s face for calling me ignorant for picking Forrest to win not only against Page but Shogun as well!!! lol! C’mon John, all the Forrest fans are waiting for you to come eat some dirty crow!

Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:10:03

C-War: Do u honestly think I give a F**k about the way I look to you? I lost close to $2,000 last night…the last thing I care about is how u feel about me. Congrats, u got to finally see me loose money…hoope u r happy you hater! lucky for mme, i was playing with the houses money since its the 1st UFC pay per view that I have os money on sinec UFC 64!

If you scroll down this page, you would see that I have been here all along, did u think I woululd hide from u?

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Comment by c-war
2008-07-06 11:44:21

Yes I do. People ussually insult others because of insecurity of themselves, but w/e.

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:46:28

U win! I am terribly hurt! I hope that u can forgive me!

 
Comment by rp
2008-07-06 12:57:56

yo john, don’t worry dude i lost a lot of money too. we’ll just get em next time!

 
Comment by c-war
2008-07-06 13:29:06

I’ll try my best

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 17:25:05

rp: what r u my new #1 fan….get off my nutts, I dont know u dude!

 
Comment by rp
2008-07-07 08:19:47

not like that.. i still think the same way about you! it’s just I too lost a lot. but i never treated any1 here like you do.. grow up college boy.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-07-07 09:14:18

No worries John. c-war is just a hater toward people that know more about mma than he does. Here is a conversation from like a year ago, literally….

VM: But seriously, NOBODY cares who has the first comment. MANY people are annoyed with the “First comment, Boo-Ya” type comments that appear all too much. If that’s all you have to say, or all you want to do, you should just try out for game shows where ‘buzzing in first’ may actually be beneficial to you.

CWAR: Hypocritical statement seeing as how you are shooting for number 1 commentator isn’t it? I do remember you celebrating when you made the top ten………..No reply needed.

PhilQNY: ..Big Difference..you can be in the top ten..because there is a top ten..what do you get or be in if you keep being the first to comment..NOTHING.if your the first or the last..the more you comment..it adds up..and places you in the Top Manics..there is NO TOP FIRST LINERS.

VM: WOW cwar, I never knew you were such a hater. Thanks PhilQNY. There are a bunch of people on this forum that will sit on the homepage hitting refresh waiting for a new thread to appear just so they can say something corny like “First comment, Boo-Ya”. I don’t see any MMA analysis in a comment like that. In my posts, I always provide some sort of facts when trying to prove a point, otherwise I will simply give my opinion and explain why its my opinion, and every now and then I’ll crack a joke here and there. As a matter of fact, 9 times out of 10, after I post something, someone will quote it and say “Good post VM”. I really enjoy seeing things like that, it makes me happy.
Speaking of “I do remember you celebrating when you made the top ten”, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about, and I would hardy call it celebrating. I first saw my name at #10 on the Top Commentator List in a thread right after I posted a comment. And it just so happened to line up with the #10 spot of the Top Commentator List. I then posted something along the lines of “Hey, I just noticed something on this thread that made my day, can anyone tell what it is?”. Several people guessed before one of them got it right. At that point, several people congratulated me, did I ‘celebrate’ like you say, not the least.
And “shooting for #1 commentator”, hardly. I actually hope that spida starts posting like he used to, because as a matter of fact, I don’t want to be #1. What I really wished was that MTU would come back, he had like 5,000 posts. If I was “shooting for #1 commentator”, I would quote comments and respond to them as individual posts, instead of quoting and responding to several comments all in the same post, which is what I do.
For all the people that enjoy my posts, thanks, and I hope that I continue to have time to continually post with my new position.
To the few haters out there, *cough* cwar *cough*, keep on hatin, I love it!

 
 
 
Comment by TheNegation
2008-07-06 02:33:04

WTF?!I just lost my money!Sh1t!

Comment by JV
2008-07-06 02:57:30

I said a while back, that Page wasnt that impressive yet. He caught Chuck to early in there fight to see how he would handle Chucks bombs. And two guys who were really 185ers.

Now I hope all the guys that were saying, Massacre, Murder, No Chance and all the other crap will man up and pay tribute to one of the few guys that called this fight.

Especially the guy that talks the most, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. That should teach you to stop acting like you know everything. Like 50cent says (I’m laughing straight to the bank with this) HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

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Comment by Chase
2008-07-06 04:07:47

Great Comment haha.

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Comment by theCloser
2008-07-06 05:24:07

Not good stuff Mania, great stuff. I won a lot of money, just like I did when he beat Shogun!

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Comment by TrueMMa
2008-07-06 12:59:03

I won a whole lot. hahahaha, THANK YOU RAMPAGE FANS!!!! MONEY MONEY MONEY

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Comment by TabascoSAUCE
2008-07-06 04:57:17

To the guys saying Quinton admitted he lost, watch the post fight press conference on the UFC.com website. Rampage felt that he (himself) won the fight.

He was being gracious saying that “Forrest whooped my ass”. But, Rampage believes he won that fight…so do I.

But no crying. The fight is done.

Forrest’s post fight press conference comments are great.

“Look at the Champions…Anderson Silva, terrifying….BJ Penn, terrifying…every other champion but me is terrifying…I’m just a dood trying to put it together, fighting like a dog.”

Forrest Griffin, humble champion, I respect that.

Comment by TrueMMa
2008-07-06 13:01:35

He also thought Bonner beat forrest too, but it didnt happen.
1 round Jackson
2 round Forrest
3rd round Forrest
4th round Jackson
5th was close But I gave it to Forrest.

No way Rampage won, he wasnt busy enough. Forrest was

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Comment by john
2008-07-06 09:20:56

Let me start off by saying that I got completly CRUSHED betting last night! This was the 1st event, since I started betting at UFC 64 that I lost money on, and I lost a lot of it!
I lost close to $2,000 last night which is basically what I won on UFC 85 and UFC 84…I am pissed! This was a good Kick in the ars for me because I started getting to high on my abilities and this brought me back down to earth. I always bet unbiasedly but I began acting/feeling like Matt mcGounaghy in “two for the money”….I stopped doing my research and I began betting on who I want to win instead of who I thought that would win, and I felt like it didnt matter because I am so good that I would win anyway! It didnt work out that way for me last night. I LOST EVERY SINGLE BET I PLACED except a small meaningless bet on Joe stevenson.

I have a Question for all of you…. I thought last night was one of the worste nights of fighting in a long time. I can not decide if I felt this way because all my bets were loosing, or were the fights in general llast night just boring? Can u guys tel me what you guys thought about the event as a whole cause I am having a hard time deciding if the event was boring or was I just mad because I am not used to loosing! Please let me know what u guys thought of last nights fights…did you find the fights exciting? Was it a good event? Let me know your thoughts on the event as a whole!

Comment by RobH86
2008-07-06 09:51:51

It was a so-so event I thought. I was very impressed with Tyson Griffin. He keeps getting better every time out.

Almeida Cote was pretty poor. After round one Ricardo looked out of steam and it turned into a snorefest. Stevenson Tibau was alright. Koscheck and Lytle was disgusting. I wanted to see that one stopped. Not sure the standups were right. I think they just wanted to give Lytle a chance.

Griffin Jackson was very interesting and Forrest did win that fight in my book though I maybe wrong.

Round 1: Rampage 10-9 Only because he dropped Forrest.
Round 2: Forrest 10-8 Hurts ‘Page’s leg and dominated
Round 3: Forrest 10-9??? Not sure, have to watch it again.
Round 4: Rampage 10-9 Moved better and rallied.
Round 5: Forrest 10-9??? Could have gone either way. I thought Forrest was just outpointing ‘Page on strikes landed until the last 30 seconds when Jackson started swinging for the fences.

You could see it on Rampage’s face. He thought he had lost.

Maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10.

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Comment by JRoland
2008-07-06 11:22:35

Couldn’t agree more, besides the main event it really wasn’t a card worth watching… Great fight by both Rampage and Forrest!

 
 
Comment by Kimber
2008-07-06 10:15:47

John I get on this site non stop to see what you and Kevin are batteling about. I gotta say for being a broke college student you must hurting after your all knowing disaster of betting last night. I just want to hear you admit that Forrest won a good fight with no excues for Rampage. Time to eat some crow since you said you would never have to since Rampage would never loose. Keep the good hard to find articles coming but welcome back to earth with a humbling night of fights.

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Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:12:34

Scroll down and u will see it! damn right last night hurt! say what u want about me, but I always keep it real

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:55:33

Kimber: I find it fattering that someone I have never even heard of like u, can hold on to my every word and know so much about me…..If u asked me about u, I wouldnt even know you exsisted….I will take the hate as a compliment!

 
Comment by Kimber
2008-07-06 14:21:30

It is a compliment I read this site religously but don’t have the time to comment at work. I am just glad to see you have to eat some crow for bad mouthing all the forrest fans this past 2 weeks. In general keep the info coming I look forawrd to it daily

 
Comment by blah
2008-07-06 21:01:31

kimber: you remind me of the guy that only comes out when its good for him!!!!! you say u check this site religiously, yet u dont have the courage to comment???? hmmmm….

 
 
Comment by c-war
2008-07-06 10:27:43

I got every pick right except for Lytle over Koscheck, and I still thought it was an extremely boring event besides the main event that everyone went nuts over. Too many styles clashed and kind of cancelled each other out. The main event made up for the whole night though. If it werent for Forrest’s and Jackson’s war to save the day at the end, this card would have sucked.

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Comment by b.w
2008-07-06 10:54:27

JOHN. i thought the night was boring as well until the forrest/rampage fight wich was an edge of yor seat type fight to me. wether you thought forrest won or not, you do need to give the man his props. you kinda put yourself out there by guaranteeing that forrest was undeserving, overrated and would get koed and get his jaw broke. none of those happened and even though the fight was close (i had 3rnds to 2 forrest 48-47) forrest had by far the most dominant rnd in the 2nd. the shogun fight was for real and so was this one. juanito sealed rampage’s fate with the “guarantee or i’ll retire. like i said before thats the kiss of death in sports. it usually means that the trainer is worried about something and is trying to get his fighter more motivated. about 3 or 4 months ago when this fight was 1rst announced i did pick rampage to win by ud, but was always was trying to defend forrest on how he had a defintr chance at winning and i tried to get across alot of great points as to why, but was constantly greeted w/ forrest sucks,overrated,lucky,no chance, done in one type remarks, and i got tired of posting about the fight entirely. sorry you lost alot of money but you have to understand that fighters can and do get better as time goes along. just like rampage got alot better when he came to the ufc, forrest improved all the time, training at one o the best camps in world and training his butt off. i tried to warn you about the lytle/kos fight as well, i had a feeling kos would be on top the whole fight. thats a fight where you bet with yor heart not your head. oh well you have had a great run at picking upsets and alot of winners and there are always bumps in the road. just remember everyones got a chance in mma, and no more forrest bashing!

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:16:15

Congratts BW, I hope u r happy! I lost 4 out of 5 fights i bet on last night, but it was still the 1st time I have lost money on an event since UFC 64! For the year I have only lost about 10 out of the 45 fights I bet on this year! Last night hurt my account, thats for sure, but I only really llost money that I won from UFC 85 and 84….For the year, I am still up money from UFC 80, 81, 82 and 83…and up a lot if I might add!

 
Comment by TrueMMa
2008-07-06 13:07:43

arent we just great. pretty full of ourselves there.

not since ufc 64, great job!! Im glad ur all knowing and all powerfull

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-07-07 09:28:43

John, how did you do on UFC 82? I had a losing event that time.

 
 
Comment by PhilQNY
2008-07-07 07:24:14

John: It SUCKED!!! I bet no $$$ on it. But it SUCKED!!!!

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Comment by Adam
2008-07-06 09:28:54

I love Rampage and honestly feel that he did more damage and at worst the fight should have been 47-47. However, his renowned trainer needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. All he did when he made his retirement remark was put even more pressure on Rampage. Very stupid mistake. Something you would expect from a young hothead.

 
Comment by Josh Hauck
2008-07-06 10:12:36

I’ve been saying that Forrest can’t win, and he’s not even the #1,2 or even #3 contender. I was wrong. Fantastic fight. I had money on Rampage, but still thought Forrest won.

 
Comment by rp
2008-07-06 12:48:50

The ufc now needs a very exciting,popular opponent for forrest. That dummy won’t sell any ppv!

 
Comment by TonyDrip
2008-07-07 17:30:36

Agreed - great fight that saved a terrible card! This serves as notice to all those who gaurantee the favorites will win. When will you ever learn!?

 
Comment by kungfumaster
2008-07-07 18:57:02

Something odd about this fight. I feel that Rampage is the better fighter, no taking anything away from Griffin.

Juanito Ibirra said it best you have to beat the champion convincingly and I felt that it was not a a “Convincing” Win on Griffins part

Although Rampage could have brought it more, It also crossed my mind that this fight was fixed, but maybe it was cage rust on Rampage’s part.

Griffin did not defeat the champion, reading all the reviews everyone has a different opinion on who won what round. Which basically proves the point that it was not a convincing win.

Which does not say much for Rampage either!!

 
Comment by Paul
2008-07-09 01:04:31

Griff is the bomb! Going in I actually thought Rampage would win the fight but all the while was cheering for Griffin. This guy has the most heart I have ever seen! He has been a huge upset for many people. His Shogun fight was amazing, and this Rampage fight was amazing. He exposed Jackson’s weak legs. And Jackson completely underestimated his opponent. Griffin is a fine example of what a fighter should be. He will fight till the death or until he is knocked-out, whichever comes first. And the guy has amazing sportsman ship. F every single person that booed him when he won. Griff is the shit! Congrats Forrest.

 
 
Comment by mr.rice-a-roni
2008-07-06 00:17:19

i have never been more happier to be proven wrong… wow forrest griffin

Comment by naturalshadow
2008-07-06 06:30:52

I think they are having Forrest star in the next Rocky movie.

Wow Forrest Balboa

 
Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-07-06 08:51:23

Yeah I’m one of the biggest Rampage fans out there, but deep down I knew Rampage would have problems with Forrest, just didn’t think it would be that much. I don’t get how people are saying Rampage won that fight, I lovethat guy to death and I will admit he lost, and clearly. Probably the last time I ever doubt Forrest, if he could beat a healthy (from what we know) Rampage, then he has a shot at pretty much anyone I think. I was sad, but Forrest is also one of my favorite fighters, so I’m still happy for him.

Now we better see Rampage vs Wandy next, and at it will be good to see Rampage back in the thick of it all, fighting for his belt again, which he will get back.

Comment by john
2008-07-06 10:40:56

My thoughts on the rest of the event.

I dont know if its just me, but either Tyson Griffin or Joe Stevenson have got to go! They are the same fighter basically, therefore they cant both be sitting toward the top of the division! They have to face off against each other next because 1 of them has got to go. I am sick of watching both of them, fight! As talented as tyson is, he cant finish a fight to save his life, and stevenson cant end a fight in any way other than a crappy guillotine (I really hate that move and after a fighter wins 3 fights with that move, they shouldnt be alowed to use it anymore! Extreme Couture needs to start teaching its fighters how to finish fights because they clearly do not have that ability!
UFC needs to book tyson vs. Stevenson next, and bump the looser down to the bottom of the division!

Its funny that the fighter who impressed me the most last night, lost….Gleison Tabau! This dude is legit! I did not realize how big of a lightweight he was and I did noot know he was only 24 years old. Maybe its because of the long hair he used to have (made him look old) but I thought he was like some old 34 year old….This guy is still a kid and a very skilled one as that who will make a huge impact in the lightweight division, sooner or later. He was in a great position t win thhe fight last night, mounting Joe, but tried to get fancy and went for a mounted triangle and lost the mounted position. In a night filled with boring decisions, I cant fault the kid for trying to bring an exciting finish to the octagon!

Maximus did not capitaize on what I saw was a wonderful opportunity. Tyson is so SHORT! to add to his lack of hight, Tyson kept dropping down on 1 knee to throw that body shot on Maximus. IMO, that left tyson wide open for a counter via a knee (like Hermes was doing against sherk).

I have come too the conclusion that pure the classic grappler vs. striker match ups should be outlawed in te UFC when the fighters are not well rounded and have to much on the line because time and time again we see those fights become boring! I liked the strategy early in the fight but as the fight went on we saw, 1 guy scared to punch because he was worried about being taken down, and the other fighter scared to strike because he was afraid of getting kO…Not very exciting if you ask me. When guys are not well rounded and there is a lot riding on te fight, I hope to NEVER again see a Grapper vs. Striker match up!

Koschek BORED me as usual! Lytle didn’t throw enough combos and he started looking Llike Arlovski has looked, predictbly just looking for that big right hand instead f mixing it up! Nothing can be worse for a fight card then a fight card filled with wrestlers!

IMO, last night was a Boring night of fights! Forget your feelings about the main event, did you find the other fights exciting?

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Comment by Brendan Ormsby
2008-07-06 00:19:05

FOrrest didn’t win all that big i thoupght it could of went either way,
Listen to GOldie and ROgan ,
How they both drastically disagreed about the 3 or 4th round

Comment by daz
2008-07-06 10:11:20

goldie knows just enough to be dangerous,he should comment as little as possible,let joe do his magic and every now and then say”EXCEPTIONAL or FANTASTIC or THE GREATEST or …. you get the point.

Comment by TheNegation
2008-07-06 18:09:21

…or “Phenomenal”!

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Comment by jimmy_dean
2008-07-06 21:38:15

No dude, Rampage lost that fight. Just barely but he lost. I was pulling for Rampage but I have to say that Forrest won the fight but if Forrest would have never injured Rampages knee with that kick I think Rampage would have won the fight in a dominant fashion. But that’s MMA for you, sometimes you just never know if someone is going to get hurt or get caught so fights are hard to call sometimes. Now that I think about it this is the best possible scenario for the UFC. I don’t think we’ll have to wait as long for Wandy vs. Rampage3. Chuck will probably beat Rashad and he will get the first crack at Forrest and the winner of Wandy vs Rampage should fight Machida or someone like that for the next title shot. Shogun needs to get healthy because that would make this weight class that much more interesting.

 
 
Comment by jonny
2008-07-06 00:19:22

totally disagree with the judges on this fight , jackson was never in trouble besides the leg kick , i will not buy ppvs with forst griffen with the exception of this one … only way i saw forest winning was the small and suttle fact that he was a BIT more aggressive , both fighters were very careful , rampage did state post fight that he will never take off 9 months again … and he better not cus they hurt him , anyways maybe well see rampage vs silva 3 or even shogun now so that’s cool but come on … forest can’t last in this division , even against a healthy shogun , no chance against a liddell and no chance against a machida or wanderlei , well maybe wanderlei but i won’t be buying the ppvs , what a terrible afterfight interview with forest as well cussing his ass off and acting all high on a pedestal and too good for rogans and the ufcs questions ….. disgraceful that people even think he put MMA on map …

Comment by matt
2008-07-06 00:30:27

let me guess you thought rampage was going to win with ease right?

What is so bad with the fighters cursing when everyother word out of the presidents mouth is the f-bomb?

Forrest stands a chance against any fighter in this division he is constantly improving, super tough and has the heart of a champion. In his last two fights he has beat the two number one ranked guys at the time i think it is time you show him some respect.

Comment by NewGuyTheGunMan
2008-07-06 00:37:33

Still loosing respect to these guys who post 24/7, they don’t realize that some of us read all the arguments, but don’t post. Grow some balls johnny boy

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Comment by jonny
2008-07-06 01:02:21

and i can see why you don’t post newguy , cus you are a NEW guy prolly don’t dont know what crackhead control is either … im a page fan and it worked and got rises out of you didn’t it buddy :) spell my name right too u tool

 
Comment by Dan
2008-07-06 01:18:07

Hey jonny. You only know what crackhead control is because Joe Rogan mentioned it at the Ultimate Fighter Finale. Eddie Bravo came up with it. Stop acting like you know what you’re talking about. You just repeat other people. You’re weak. And Griffin won… Deal with it.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-07-07 09:41:53

EXACTLY. I never heard of an eziquiel either until UFC 86

 
 
Comment by jonny
2008-07-06 01:00:09

hey matt STFU , ignorance is bliss by your comments and who said i give a crap about dana whites comments he is irrelevant

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Comment by PJJ
2008-07-06 01:13:10

Nothing like a sore loser, JoHnny.

 
 
Comment by boyer
2008-07-06 05:52:52

amen

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Comment by whimwham
2008-07-06 00:31:34

you rule internet fight master god bless you and all you have personally done in mma.now you can focus on your training and fight forest for his belt because clearly you know exactly how to fight and win a title.bless you net champ

Comment by jonny
2008-07-06 01:06:38

internet fight master , that really hurt my feelings im going to commit suicide whimywhamy

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Comment by Patriot
2008-07-07 17:25:52

Don’t tease us!!!

 
 
 
Comment by jeff
2008-07-06 00:32:02

i feel u rampage won hands down.

 
Comment by GSP4Prez
2008-07-06 00:43:18

Uhh he kinda did put MMA on the map. HOw many people watched MMA before Season One of TUF and how many people watch it now. Sure the hard core fans watched it before and woulda kept watching it anyways but you lying to yourself if you won’t admit he was a very large portion of bringing it to the mainstream sport it has become today.

Comment by JV
2008-07-06 02:02:11

Now I hope that all the guys saying Rampage will dominate and Forrest didnt deserve a title shot will man up and show some respect. Especially the guy I consider the biggest a$$ on this web sight, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! I said it after the Hendo/Rampage fight that Rampage wasnt that impressive. Eastman, 185er. He caught Chuck early so we didnt get to see how he would take Chucks bombs. Then Hendo another 185er. But people bashed me right away and said I was wrong, well now whats up?

Is Forrest really that good? Or is Rampage not as bad as everybody was saying? Massacre, murder, run Forrest run, 1st round and 2nd round!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Forrest Griffen, THE NEW LHW CHAMPION!!!!! how does that taste?

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Comment by JV
2008-07-06 02:41:56

I hope the guy that talks the most, MANS UP!!!! and shows some respect. I called it, BNF called it and a few others. BNF whats up? I hope you partied as much as I did. Automation is probably locked in his room crying about what he has to do. Linx, what happened to your boy Page? I like getting into debates with you, but maybe now you can see I’m the MAN!!! lol.

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Comment by BNF
2008-07-06 02:48:11

LMAO!!!!!! Suckes to be linx and Automation. FORREST, FORREST!!!!!! Where u guys at??????

 
Comment by BNF
2008-07-06 02:55:53

I have to post again… It just feels so damn good! Forrest has no chance… KO… Broken jaw… blah blah blah… Linx, I love u, but now your my bitch!!!!

 
Comment by JV
2008-07-06 03:00:13

BNF glad to see you!!! I hope linx and Automation make it home ok. Cause there probably soaking there sorrows in some kind of alcohol. lol.

 
Comment by BNF
2008-07-06 03:01:13

I’m in MMA pergatory… JV my man. Happy 4TH!!!

 
Comment by JV
2008-07-06 03:05:11

OH sh!t sorry man, Happy 4th to you too!!! You been reading all the hate?

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-07-06 06:08:17

I actualy watched the fight at the Hooters in Daytona. A lot of people walked there after the race ended. They had it on a giant blow up screen, but there wasn’t any volume, so I never heard the actual judges score or what the fighter’s had to say. I will say this though, without the volume, everyone in the area I was in called it the same, 3 rounds to 2 rounds in favor of Forrest. I think we all said he took rounds 2,3, and 5. I would like to watch it agian with the volume, but I have noticed that sometimes the commentary can sway the view of the fight.

 
Comment by naturalshadow
2008-07-06 06:11:03

Also, I believe that Rampage said something on TUF about betting his money that the fight would not go to a decision? haha

 
Comment by BNF's B_tch aka LINX
2008-07-06 07:50:46

Oh man, just stopping by ‘cause I’m going to be off all day looking for new furniture for my new house, but I don’t want you guys to think I’m ducking yall. BNF and JV, what can I say? I’m speechless, now I gotta keep this g*y @$$ name for a month LMAO. I gotta give it up to forrest though, that was a great fight and a great show of skills. the guy definitely came a long way since his TUF years. I have found new respect to forrest, he beat a top (and 100% healthy) fighter in rampage, no more excuses, he deserves to be champion. But don’t get too used to it, he ain’t going to be holding that belt for a long time (shogun should be back anytime now :) ) I know I know, you guys don’t want to hear nothing ‘bout shogun again, so I’ll let yall and forrest have your time of success, he deserves it. So I’ll leave by saying this, FORREST YOU’RE A TRUE CHAMP!!!

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 09:33:26

Much props to Forrest, he fought better than I thought he could fight….His chin held up better than I thought it would have and I honesty did not think Forrest could fight such a disciplined fight!

Now my thoughts on the fight. Mania, I am with you, I do not know if I totally agree that Forrest should be waking up today as the champion! I thought Forrest won rounds 2 and 5. Say the judges called round 2 a 10-8 round for Forrest, it still should have resuted in a draw. I dont understand how u can win a title against the undiputed champion if the most significant action of the fight was a few damaging leg kicks in the 2nd round. In all honesty, I thought it was a crappy fight and that neither fighter did enough to be called champion today, but I always thought that if a championship fight goes to a decision that the Chalenger had to decisevely beat the Champion….I did not see that Happen last night. IMO, Rampage should have either won a lackluster decision, or it should have been ruled a draw depending on weather or not you gave round 2 t forrest as a 10-8 round or not.

I was impressed with Forrest but much more disappointed in Rampage’s effort. No excuses because Rampage should have never put himself in that position. tHe few times he actualy opened up, he was rocking Forrest but never capitalilzed and barely attacked. Scroll down to read my analysis on what went wrong for Rampage because weather he deserved to win the fight or not is not the point, with 25 minutes he has no excuses for not finishing the fight.

 
Comment by brac
2008-07-06 10:29:27

This fight sucked. Whether your a Forrest fan or a Rmpage fan it sucked because everyone knows that Rampage did not fight near to his capabilities and Forrest fought as well as he poss.could have. Rampage took the whole last round off besides the last few seconds. What the hell, he didn’t seem tired, and u take the whole last round off in a championship fight. I don’t get it. Smells like a set up. I thought the whole card pretty well sucked. Why didn’t Cote let his hands go in that third round? The guy was totally gassed! They was talking title shot for both of these guys but Anderson Silva would have destroyed both of them the way they fought last night. And the Chris Lytle fight! I never want a fight stopped but that was a fight they should have stopped. He had to hang in there and take alot of unnecessary damage to his face because he wasn’t going to quit. If I would have been in his corner I would have prob. thrown in the towel. Tyson Griffin imressed me the most on this card and I really like Rampage but he just really pissed me off! I don’t dislike Forrerst, he is a very hard worker, and I can’t say anything bad about him (except when he went running out of the ring crying after the Jardene fight) but everybody knows that if Rampage would have fought to his abilities, Forrest would have no walked out the champion last night. For the record though I had the fight scored as follows.
1. 10-9 Rampage
2. 10-9 Forrest when he was on top he never hurt Page, cut him or anything. Didn’t see it being a 10-8 round. Just because it looks good doesn’t mean he’s doing any real damage.
3. Even. could have went ether way. neither one did much of anything.
4. 10-9 Rampage
5. 10-9 Forrest
So I guess I had it a draw meaning the Champ shold have kept his belt.

 
Comment by john
2008-07-06 11:17:35

THats the way I saw the night!