Now that’s a HUGE difference in size! Unfortunately in skill too Fedor made short work of Hong Man Choi. He sure likes to armbar though, 3 of his last 4 ended that way. But i do think Sylvia said he was training against that - hopefully Tim can put up a real fight so we can see what Fedor is really made of..cant wait.

if Tim trains as hard as he did against nog, where he said he trained 500 times to defend against pulling guard, I don’t see him having any chances in this fight at all. Fedor is just in a league of his own.

I’m probably the only one who thinks Sylvia will pull off an upset.

OMG!!! I just said it lol

I don’t think it’s too far-fetched to think that Timmy has a shot in this fight. With Timmy’s reach advantage, he will always have a shot at beating anybody. One well placed jab might split Fedor wide open. Timmy is tough to take down and with Fedor’s susceptibility to cut, I would give Timmy a shot.

Still think Fedor will win, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Timmy pulls off the upset.

Exactly. Tim throws heavy heavy jabs and has a good takedown defence.

I’m seeing Chuck vs Randy 3

Automation I am a hundred percent behind Timmy. He gives a lot of guys trouble. Fedor will have a hard time setting up his take down. Timmy has great take down defense and probably some of the best dirty boxing in mma. He also has one of the best Jabs in mma. That jab will be the key to keeping Fedor at bay. Linland was able to bust him open and would have landed a serious slam had Fedor not grabed on the rope for dear life three times(oddly enough the ref did not say one thing about it) and it is the only reason FEdor landed on top. I think and feel we have a huge win for Tim Sylvia on the Horizon. I hope so as well becuase then it will crush all the hype of Couture vs. Ferdor.

I hope all u dudes who like Tim, have the stones to bet on him because I am riding Fedor straight to the BANK!!! Sucka’s!

Weed is harmful, let’s leave aside the permanent damage that you guys say don’t exist and just deal with the short term damage (drowsiness, distorted perception, loss of motor coordination, increased of heart rate). It’s just as bad as alcohol, would you let you’re son drink at an early age? Would you let a friend drink and drive? The same should apply to marijuana regarding short term damage (although I myself believe there is long-term damage as well, but that’s beside the point).

HAHA, drowsiness? increased heart rate? WOW, stay away from that stuff. You can find worse side effects on the side of an aspirin bottle. Seriously though, it’s obviously not something a person should do if they are going to be driving, just like a person should not drink and drive. It’s not something children should be doing, just like alcohol. No, I would not let my child drink, no I would not let a friend drive drunk, however these “points” of yours are irrelevant to the topic. My point is simply that weed is no worse than alcohol, in fact based on all available independent research it is far less damaging to the body. So to say he is not fulfilling his obligation as a role model while every single season of TUF has dudes getting $h!t faced drunk and acting like morons is unfair.Alcohol is legal so it’s ok to get smashed on national television and embarass your family and your sport but what a person does in the privacy of their own home makes them a bad role model, I call BS.

I hear you Cannibal, if I were DW, I wouldn’t allow them to show the guys in the TUF house get trashed, they only do that for ratings (but what can I do, I’m just an MMA fan). But you definitely touched on my point about kids doing weed, if you wouldn’t allow your child to do it, imagine all the kids that watches MMA (and you know there are plenty), that will look at a fighter that does weed and say to themselves that it is cool. He’s a fighter, he’s successful, he smokes weed, so I can too. You know this is a possibility. I wish they wouldn’t show the TUF fighters getting drunk and trashing the house, but if I had it my way that wouldn’t happen. But just because they can’t see one wrong doesn’t mean they should oversee another, which is the influence of drugs in our young communities. That’s all I’m saying really. I am a libertarian, I believe we all have our rights to do as we wish as long as we do not harm others, but I also believe that private companies should restrain characters with higher influence in our community to behave “appropriately” and send a good message not only regarding their products, but our way of life. I would hate to have my son start doing drugs because he was influenced by something he saw on TV, there needs to be punishment for these types of behavior at this stage of the game (again, I wish this was also true to alcohol, but apparently DW doesn’t think this way).

Obviously we are not going to agree but that is ok, i respect your opinion and i respect your right to have one. I have one last thing to say then i’m putting this topic to bed, this is after all an mma discussion board and we are starting to veer off the actual subject. NO, I would not want my young child to smoke weed, BUT, there are plenty of other things that i would not want my young child to do as well. Does this mean I think I have the right to tell someone else what they can and can’t do? Role model or not? NO. I would not want my child drinking but does that mean I think i have the right to tell someone they can’t, just beacause they are famous? NO. I would not want my young child doing wheelies on a dirtbike but does that mean i think we should not televise the X-games? NO. Basically I feel that at a certain age a person has the right to make certain decisions for themself. That said, I don’t feel that anyone has the right to tell them when and how they can do something unless their actions are putting someone else in DIRECT danger. Weed does not fall into this category because there is no age at which it becomes ok, but i feel there should be. A person should not have the right to censor another persons actions because they disagree with them or feel they are a bad influence, if we support thinking like that then we can all say goodbye to the UFC and MMA as a whole cause guess what, a large percentage of parents feel the same way about MMA as you do about weed. They think it gives kids the wrong idea on how to solve problems and blah blah blah, we’ve all heard the propaganda. It’s up to us as parents to ensure our kids make the right choices, a childs biggest role model should be their parent and if it isn’t then that is the parents fault not the substitute role model. GEEZ this got long quick! haha.

Cannibal, this is getting long LOL, and yes, we’re not going to agree. I do want to say that I do respect your opinion, as well as John’s and PhilQNY’s. Just to clear my side of the story, this is what I believe:

*For me all substances are bad and I wouldn’t want anyone in my family nor would I allow my son to do or be acquaintances with other ppl that do any type of drugs such as weed, alcohol and hardcore drugs such as cocaine, crack and so on.

*Everyone should have individual rights to do anything they want in their own property as long as they do not harm other ppl (such as smoking weed, cocaine, crack, alcohol, etc.).

*Private companies such as the UFC and the late Pride have their rights to restrict employees from activities they feel do not represent them in the correct way (such as smoking weed, steroid abuse, dependency drugs, etc.).

So to go back to the very first post in this thread where Nick Diaz was mentioned and that I disagreed with was the fact that he got in trouble for smoking weed. In my view, he has his right to do as he wishes to his body, but the athletic commissioning body (acting in behalf of Pride) has their rights to impose their set of principles in their employees resulting in suspension and fines to combat such behavior as they see fit.

PhilQNY, I understand where you’re coming from, but as I’ve said, I’m against all substances (that includes alcohol, tobacco, weed, etc). Believe it or not I don’t agree with the idea of weed being illegal, I think we would have less crimes were weed legal to produce and sell, there wouldn’t be any cartels and gang on gang violence in Rio de Janeiro. Kind of like how alcohol was in the 20’s in the USA, it just translated into more crimes. Even though I agree with your right to do as you wish to your body, I feel that the role of government would be to educate the population regarding the harms any substance has, with commercials (kind of like what we see with alcohol and cigarette commercials).

The thing is, I still don’t agree with having role models do weed, drink and drive and among other things. Just one question I have for you guys that do weed. Again, I have no problem with what you choose to do with your body, to me it’s a human right what we choose to do, but would you allow your young child to smoke weed?

Try telling your lungs it doesn’t hurt you.

How can a doctor or whoever carries out the autopsy determine what caused the lung cancer in a patient?

Was it tobacco or was it ganja?

The doctor probably knows he smoked but didn’t know he was partial to a blow.

Cause of death - lung cancer caused by smoking.

lung cancer is definitely from tobacco and alcohol.

Linx: TO answer your ??? @ a certain age..yeah. With me in a safe enviorment..I would want my child to thin kfor him or herself..teach them wrong from right..and let them grow up.

Automation: There has yet been any death connected to weed ever. Bud gets bad rap..especially when you mix in with other drugs. I train BJJ. I have a great job. I take of myself the best I can. I run . I swim. I smoke the herb. If weed was legal prozac would go out of business and alot of these FDA approved drugs would not be needed. Weed helps dilute the pollution we inhale during the day ( Big Cities ).. If you smoke the herb..it reveals you to yourself.

PS: Cigs are cancer sticks.

I smoked the reefer tues night and got a panic attack for the first time, it can be harmful just like anything else.
I smoked way to much… And now, I am done with weed for good, nothing really good comes from it, so whats the point, ya ya naseu (sp) or whatever. but come on, no one smokes it for that. And it has some problems as well,
a study published in the January 2008 edition of the journal Respirology found that “regular” cannabis smokers who developed bullous lung disease[2] did so on average 24 years sooner than tobacco smoking counterparts.[59] Researchers attributed this to the inhalation of a larger volume of smoke, and typically holding it for four times longer than tobacco smokers. Bullous lung disease is considered an uncommon cause of respiratory distress.[60] In general, habitual inhalation of any kind of smoke is detrimental to lung health…Wikipedia

“Herb reveals you to yourself” thats crazy funny. PhilQNY sounds like you need some Houston stuff. IMO if the NSAC is going to ban illegal substances, then it should be all of them. And I agree with linx, if it distorts, then it cant be good for you.

JV, what are the odds of us agreeing in something huh?

Good back up New Guy.

I’m not bashing anybody for taking it. I used to do it, purely out of peer pressure, but wasn’t good at it. 2 or 3 inhalations and i was spending the rest of the night trying to stop the room from spinning (lightweight)

Away from the psychological evaluations, as pyshcology generally is still a large unknown, our tubes down to our lungs are lined with microscopic hairs to filter any foreign matter from getting into our lungs except fresh air. Therefore, anything other than air is harmful to the lungs i.e. thick dense smoke as well as all the accompanying chemicals.

The point I was making was that it is harmful. But each to their own, we all own our own bodies and can do what we want to them

Linx, while I was typing that I agree with you, my hands started shaking and almost couldnt even post it! I had to fight myself to press (add comment).

I also used to be a smoker (cigarettes, 10 YEARS!), picked up because of my girl friend at the time. It wasn’t until I got married that my wife (different girl) made me quit. I’m telling ya, the grass is way greener on the other side. You won’t know what you’re missing until you stop it. Now I’m not saying cigarettes are the same as weed, but all drugs affects our bodies in different ways. But why do you need drugs in the first place? Did you guys start because your friends were doing it too? I know John told me once he needs it because he wouldn’t be able to sleep without it. But this is just what addiction makes us go through, when I quit smoking I didn’t have a good night sleep for weeks. If you guys tried going 1 month without weed, I guarantee you would feel differently and would not go back to it (that’s a promise BTW!).

BTW, JV that was hilarious LOL

you’re dreaming JV, but it’s ok, half of you guys will wake up soon enough

Check it out, I’m going to be completely honest. I think Rampage will win, but I dont want him to. Forrest has a good chance. Lets go Forrest!!!

at least you’re being realistic JV, good stuff, there is nothing wrong with wishing.

Gotta agree with linx here, Forrest is just not in the same class as Rampage. Hope it’s a good fight but i see a KO in Forrest’s very near future.

To qoute BJ Penn on Page’s behalf… ” It’s a bad time to fight Rampage “

Rampage is going to the same to Forrest as Jardine did except it will look like they are on a trampoline.

As rampage throws his bombs from guard, Forrest will bounce off the canvas by a couple of feet

JV: I feel the same way as you. On paper it is all Rampage. But I still think there are a few scenarios where Forrest can win. In no way do I think it will be an easy win for Rampage like some people think. And you can bet I will be screaming at my TV that night.

Link: We had a discussion a few months back about this fight. You said if Forrest wins I could kick you in the nuts… Well, get ready to spread um! LOL!!

LOL, wanna make a bet? if you win I’ll change my name to “bnf owns me aka linx” for a month, if I win you have to change your name to “linx owns me aka bnf” for a month. Are you up for it?

Dude that’s funny! I will take that bet.

ROFLMAO, you’re going to get owned big time bnf, there is no way griffin wins this, no way. The bet is on, now I hope you don’t go backing out of it and you HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR NAME OK! Can I get a witness?

I am a man of my word. Do I get odds?

how would that work?

The odds would be something like Rampage wins I change my name 2 weeks, Forrest wins you for 1 month. Or I will do the whole month, but if Forrest wins you have to change your name to “Linx aka BNF’s bitch”

I just replyed to the odds. In moderation. Hold on.

I’ll be the witness but I think the name should be ‘Linx’s B_tch’ lol

There is no point in saying ‘Bnf’s B_tch’ that aint happening lol

LOL, automation got my back. gotta go, I’ll look at the odds tomorrow. the bet is on!

bnf, I’ll take those odds. if forrest wins I’ll change my name to “linx aka BNF’s B_tch” for a month, but if page wins you have to change your name to “bnf aka linx’s B_tch” for two weeks. the bet is on bro!

You got it brother. In my Mike Goldberg voice “Here we go!!!”