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UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson is a wanted man — not just inside the Octagon, but outside of it, too.

With the conclusion of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 7, which he was a coach alongside Forrest Griffin, he is now hunkering down in Big Bear, Calif., to prepare for his monster upcoming title defense at UFC 86: “Jackson vs. Griffin” on July 5.

It’s time for comical champion to get serious. And that means, according to his manager and trainer, Juanito Ibarra, that he needs to be free of any distractions sans a select few planned appearances and official commitments for the UFC in the coming weeks.

While MMAmania.com was unsuccessful in getting Rampage Jackson on the phone because of this very reason, Ibarra was willing to take time out of the camp he has prepared for the light heavyweight champion of the world to chat with us about all things Rampage Jackson. From how the camp is coming along to how Rampage liked coaching the up-and-coming TUF Middleweights to where Ibarra sees Rampage in the next few years, we covered it all.

And although I think I might have annoyed Ibarra with one of my questions that calls Rampage’s coaching success rate into question, you can’t argue with the man’s record — or the record of his champion prize fighters. A former boxing trainer for Oscar de la Hoya — who, by the way, has generated more money than any other boxer in history — Ibarra has helped Rampage build up his own empire, which now includes an energy drink, ringtones, rims and more.

In addition to being undefeated (6-0) since bringing Ibarra on board, Rampage also holds both the UFC light heavyweight championship strap and the PRIDE FC light heavyweight belt. Not too shabby.

We chatted with the man behind the man. Here’s what he had to say:

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Rampage is set to fight Forrest Griffin at UFC 86 on July 5 in Las Vegas. There’s been a lot of hype building for this fight, especially with The Ultimate Fighter Season 7 Finale premiering next Saturday. What was Rampage’s take on being a coach for the show? Would he prefer to stick with fighting or did he enjoy his experience there?

Juanito Ibarra: From what I understand, he thinks it was a good experience from our discussions. He don’t envy the coaches, you know. He’d rather be fighting than coaching, from what I gather.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): The fighters Rampage coached didn’t seem to perform very well on the show. What was the problem there? Was it because Rampage is a better fighter than he is a coach, or did he just pick lousy fighters?

Juanito Ibarra
: No, man. You know, I was on the show with him. I don’t blame him or Forrest for the good or the bad. You get these kids coming in, they rarely have time to train … It’s a television show. The results are the results.

It’s not that it’s bad or good, but if you look at history in the fight game … you know, I have a saying, “Those who can’t … teach.” So in other words, those who can’t perform in the ring or the cage usually become good teachers or trainers.

In Rampage’s instance, the guy’s one hell of a fighter — he’s the undisputed champion of the world — and maybe he’s not a teacher, I don’t know. That was his first time ever trying it. He never thought he’d be in that position to even want to do it.

So, it was a different transition for him and me — as his trainer and his manager — to listen to him instead of him listening to me. And so it was a bit uncomfortable in the beginning, but us coaches were there for him to do what he asked us to do, and it is what it is.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Taping for the show obviously prolongs title shots. Has this affected Rampage any? Did he use the opportunity to heal up old injuries and to market himself, or would he prefer to fight more frequently … say, every three or four months?

Juanito Ibarra: Well if you look at Rampage’s history, if you know anything about him, the first part of his career the guy was fighting … I think he fought like eight times a year. Look what his record is. I don’t even know if you know how many fights he has.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Yeah, I do.

Juanito Ibarra: If you did your homework then he’s fought quite frequently. Fighters can’t fight like that all their lives — six times a year — especially when guys are getting better. We needed to heal some old injuries. I needed to market him more. I needed to get some endorsements and to fulfill the vision that I have for him as his manager — not only his trainer, but as his manager — to really exploit him out there in a good way.

Unfortunately, it was a little longer than we anticipated because of the show, but we committed to the UFC that we’d do it, and we wanted to stay honorable to it.

Things like that can hurt a fighter or it can help a fighter. In this case, I really think that it’s going to help Rampage, the long layoff. You know, he won two world titles. He’s the undisputed champion. He won it in seven months, right? Seven frickin’ months he won it. So he needed a little rest, he needs to heal. And now we’re ready to go back to war.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Absolutely, I wasn’t trying to imply that he needed the time off, or anything like that. I was just saying that a criticism of TUF from a fan perspective is that they want to see more title shots more frequently.

Juanito Ibarra: Well, you know, the fans … it shouldn’t have to be a title shot that they want to see. They should just want to see a good fight. And Rampage always puts on a good fight, whether he’s a champion or not. I believe he’s going to stay champion for a long time. As long as he’s in great shape, it’s going to be hard to beat him.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Absolutely.

Juanito Ibarra: Yeah, and we want to give the fans more of Rampage, and we hope the UFC complies with us in working with us to get that done. So I truly believe that Rampage’s year is next year, in 2009. I told him that on New Year’s Eve coming into 2008. I said, “Son, I’m tellin’ ya, 2009 is going to be a huge, huge, huge year for you.” And I truly believe that.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): How many more fights does Rampage have on his current contract?

Juanito Ibarra: I don’t want to get into money or contracts.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Okay, that’s fine. Forrest is a big guy, I think he’s 6′3″ and probably walks around at 235.

Juanito Ibarra: He walks around at about 245 to be honest.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): 245, okay. Does this impact at all how you and Rampage have been preparing for this fight?

Juanito Ibarra: Rampage is always prepared, because that’s my way. I train athletes to do things backwards, forwards, sideways, 45 degree angles … And we always spar and have camps with guys of all sizes — from speed to shortness to thickness to tallness. Guys like Cheick Kongo in camp. You know, Cheick Kongo’s a monster. I brought in … I think I added it up to almost 25 guys in and out of camp with Rampage, getting their butts whooped. I pay my guys, so it’s hard for guys that come into camp to say, “I’m leaving ’cause I’m getting my butt whooped” when they’re getting paid, right?

We’re getting ready, just like any other fight. We don’t take Forrest lightly. He’s a big guy. He has a lot of tenacity. He comes to fight 1,000 percent of the time, and we’re going to do our best to be prepared for that, like always.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Since Rampage began training with you, he’s 6-0, I believe, is that correct?

Juanito Ibarra
: Yes, sir.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Can you give us a brief run through of the type of training camp you’ve put together for this fight?

Juanito Ibarra: Well, it’s just like any other camp, I mean, I have a lock down kind of policy, whether he likes it or not. It’s about focusing, it’s about getting in shape at altitude, it’s about shutting out the world, and it’s hard. It takes you through a lot of mental stress, but you have to overcome them things to make you stronger and tougher and more focused.

Like I said, we’re concentrating on every aspect of the game for this fight, like we have other fights. I really haven’t changed much … I’m a study freak, I’m a technical freak, so … you know, that’s what we’ve done. We have a gameplan, and we’re going to be victorious.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): I don’t know the odds, but I’m sure Rampage is a heavy favorite for this fight. How do you see the fight going? Do you see it being a quick stoppage or a drawn out slugfest?

Juanito Ibarra: I don’t get into betting and odds, ’cause I could care less. Every fight’s a different fight. The underdog guys are the guys that, if you really don’t prepare for them, they are the guys that are the most dangerous. Forrest Griffin is just as dangerous as any other light heavyweight out there.

We don’t expect nothing but a win. We don’t think about defending the belt, we just think about winning the fight in a great fashion. If it comes early, God bless it, that’s what we’ve trained for — early stoppages and ways to win fights. And then on the other hand, we’re prepared to go five rounds if the momentum and tempo’s not like that.

You gotta remember that to have a fight, two guys gotta fight. Look at the Tito Ortiz and Machida fight. It was a matador and bull kind of fight. This fight might be a matador and bull kind of fight. You gotta know how to cut off the ring to get to the matador; and the matador has to be able to stab the bull to get the bull down, right?

I can probably bet 99.9 percent that this is going to be a strategic fight, especially in Forrest’s mind. I don’t think he wants to trade with Rampage. He may, he gets a little crazy, he likes to trade when he’s in the heat of it. He may do that, but we’re prepared either way.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Do you think Forrest Griffin has a chin strong enough to stand and bang with Rampage?

Juanito Ibarra: No. Not too many guys do.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Yeah, that’s for certain. I know that Rampage isn’t looking past Forrest by any means, but what’s next in line for him—

Juanito Ibarra: No buts. No buts. We’re not looking past Forrest. I always have a plan. As a business manager, his manager and as his trainer, I always have a plan. As a matter of fact, I have an A, B, C, D plan in anything I do. In the fight game, in the ring, in the cage, outside of it … So there are plans out there, but that’s it. It’s planning it. It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

But I think 2009 is going to be an unbelievable year for Rampage, and I think he’s going to end this year with a bang. I really do. He hasn’t fought, he’s hungry, he’s very ornery and nasty. That means I’m doing my job.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Would he prefer a rematch with Shogun Rua or Wanderlei Silva?

Juanito Ibarra: Of course, that’s always in our future. Them guys are two great warriors. He was unfortunately beaten in them fights for whatever reasons — who cares? I always say, “Yesterday’s a canceled check, today’s cash in hand, tomorrow’s a promissory note.” And it’s on my mind, it’s always been on my mind.

I respect both them athletes. I respect them as athletes, fighters, as people. They are very polite to me. I’m very polite to them. I just think that Rampage Jackson is a way better fighter, and I think we’re under different circumstances, to say the least. If them kids are healthy, and Rampage is champion, like I expect him to be, of course we’d like them fights in the future, of course. But you gotta remember, them guys gotta show a winning style as well. They can’t just fight on pure names. They gotta show that they’re doing good. We want to beat the best that there are, just like anybody else.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): How’s the Rampage empire growing?

Juanito Ibarra: It’s growing, man. It’s been almost … man, it’s going on three and a half years, I think. I’ve been working my tail off six days a week. You know I have my team behind me — guys who have made me successful. It’s a small team, but I believe a powerful team. The empire is growing, believe me. We don’t talk about it a lot, we don’t wear it on our shorts like everybody wants us to and everybody does to show what we’re about. We just try to stay humble and believe in God and keep growing day by day.

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Hey I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. I know that Rampage has a lot of fans who frequent the site. Would you like to thank any sponsors, or do you have any parting words for all those Rampage fans out there?

Juanito Ibarra: I know Rampage loves his fans to death. Just to let everybody know that he’s working his butt off to stay champion, and he thanks all the fans for the support. His new Web site will be up: AllRampage.com. Look it up. That’s where his new ringtones are going to be for sale, and his energy drink, and his tennis shoes, and his rims, and he’s growing. We really love the support from all the fans around the world.

June 12th, 2008    

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36 Comments »

Comment by WickedAwesome
2008-06-12 08:26:18

Rampage should take this one. too bad for forest it takes a whole round to get fired up. or just a good beating.
pulling for forest but i dont think he can take this one

 
Comment by Nick J
2008-06-12 08:26:22

Got quite frustrated reading that, think he comes off as a bit of a di*k, got his back up for no reason on many occassions, nothing wrong with the questions asked.

Its got to be said tho Rampage looks a much better fighter since he came on board tho so he knows his stuff. Night night Forrest.

 
Comment by Ade
2008-06-12 08:37:57

Rampage is going take out Forrest the same way Jardine did. Ramapage can take a hell of a lot more punishment than Forrest all you need to do is check out the Silva fights to see that. And now that Rampage has got his sh@t together and is training properly with a good camp, it is going to take more than Dana’s pet Forrest to take him out. Forrest is tough but he is just not good enough when it comes to Rampage. And if anybody thinks that him beating an out of shape gassed in the first round Shogun, was some sort of amazing feat, Ramapage is going to give you a reality check.

Comment by Primary_Knukkle
2008-06-12 08:42:11

can i get an amen

Comment by Emanuel0523
2008-06-12 23:58:31

Amen!

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Comment by Seamus
2008-06-12 08:41:39

great interview Adam - cheers.

Comment by kevin
2008-06-12 10:37:43

WOW, that’s by far the best interview I’ve read in a long time, great job Adam. Juanito is the best thing that ever happened to Rampage. Never mind the training, but to keep him focused and to have Rampage’s best interest at heart and first!!

 
 
Comment by linx
2008-06-12 09:10:01

rampage is going to destroy forrest, DESTROY!

Comment by john
2008-06-12 09:26:44

I am on board with that Linx. God, I love Rampage, I have been watching him since his 1st Pride fight against Sakuraba. He is one of my favorite fighters for sure, and I want to thank Juanito for what he has done for the career of Rampage. Juanito has really taken Page to the next level, and if Juanito is by Rampoage’s side, he will be very tough to beat.

Juanito is absolutely right, Forrest’s chin cant hold up against Rampage. Its as simple as that. EASY MONEY!!!

 
Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-06-12 11:04:04

YES! RAMPAGE SMASH! lol I plan on watching him hold that belt for a looong time to come. Fuck yeah, Rampage is the man!

It’s a shame, Forrest is one of my favorite fighters, but he’s getting his shot too soon. Also, Rampage is my #1 favorite so I’m definately pulling for the sure win!

 
 
Comment by Staples
2008-06-12 09:17:52

I don’t think he was being a di*k just that he only cares about his fighter right now. Not the silly questions some reporter/blogger asks. His job is to train rampage and prepair him for a Win everthing else is second place to that goal

Comment by wagnerav
2008-06-12 09:34:20

I actually agree with Staples. I take part of the blame for putting Ibarra on the defensive, because the question was poorly worded. I had originally written the question for Rampage in an effort to raz him a bit about how his fighters underperformed against Forrest’s (in a fun way, not in a disrespectful way). But it didn’t translate well when the question was applied to his trainer. By the end of the interview, though, Ibarra was very cordial to talk to.
At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. Ibarra’s record (and Rampage’s) speaks for itself.

Comment by bigbadbrad
2008-06-12 09:36:28

i still think they are both class acts

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Comment by john
2008-06-12 10:56:49

Juanito = Best thing to ever happen to Rampage!

 
Comment by James S
2008-06-12 17:20:11

except for Chuck Liddel

 
 
 
 
Comment by Fidel Cashflow
2008-06-12 09:24:26

I don’t think he came across like a dick either. You know there’s certain things a manager just wont talk about and he has every right to pass on some questions (such as money). I think he’s very professional and has done some great things to rejuvenate rampages career.

 
Comment by bigbadbrad
2008-06-12 09:34:35

i’m probably the biggest die hard iceman fan out there. so naturally i should hate rampage…but you know what, the dude’s growing on me. i respect him, he has fun with what he does and at the same time will kill somebody. i love forrest though. i’m pulling for forrest but i’m betting on rampage. i bet it’ll go the distance and end in the 4th by tko.

Comment by JV
2008-06-12 12:24:06

My thoughts exactly bro, I was sick to my stomach when Rampage KO’d Liddell. After seeing some of his interviews, I’m coming around. I’m hopeing for a Forrest upset too. Only time will tell.

 
 
Comment by luckyme1321
2008-06-12 09:51:44

i cant wait for rampage to get his revenge on Wand

 
Comment by khemtawe
2008-06-12 10:08:51

With Juanito’s comments about Tito vs Machida and the matador analogy, I think Juanito may have foreshadowed Rampage’s next opponent. He is already gameplanning for Lyoto.

 
Comment by duece 4
2008-06-12 10:59:20

wtf, forrest walks around at 245!!! can somebody tell me why he fights at light heavyweight and NOT heavyweight?! is he too coward to fight with the big boys? will he only fight people that are naturally smaller than him? that’s how it appears to me. even after he cuts the weight, goin into the fight he’s always been bigger than his opponent. i don’t think shogun’s loss to him should be a blemish, shogun lost to a heavyweight. give shogun props for taking a fight against a heavyweight

Comment by bigbadbrad
2008-06-12 11:04:31

245 seems a little high to me. maybe 225 or 230. if you look at rampage on the show, he’s bigger than forrest is. it’s the same with every fighter, they all cut weight to drop down a weight class practically. just some drop down more than others.

Comment by the heat
2008-06-12 11:35:50

ye forest weight bout 235 when he isnt cutting he likes to weight 225 a week before the fight and he usually comes in to the cage at near 220 but i think rampage is still alot stronger

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Comment by kirky
2008-06-12 13:08:20

I saw an interview with Rampage and he said he was “about 250 #’s during the ultimate fighter.”

 
Comment by RobH86
2008-06-12 21:33:58

If he’s 225 a week before that makes him bigger than Tito who weighed in at 221 a week before the Rashad fight. Rampage is certainly stronger though.

Rampage doesn’t like running so maybe if Forrest does a cross between a Kalib (d!ckhead) and a Machida (legend) for two rounds he can tire out Rampage. I kid, I kid.

 
 
 
Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-06-12 11:07:02

Actually, pretty much every fighter in the UFC could fight at one or two weight classes above what they normally fight at. GSP walks around at 190, and Rampage said he was around 250 durring the show. They all cut the weight for that much more of an edge. Hence why Bisping rescently dropped down, and as much as I hate to say it, is looking great.

Comment by MikeD
2008-06-12 11:27:57

GSP could not possibly walk around 190, have you seen the interview from Brazil? He looks thin there, maybe Thiago Alves 190 but not GSP.

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Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-06-12 12:52:08

I was actually thinking the same thing, how he looked so slim in that video of him in Brazil. He might not weight 190 in that video, but he’s been known to walk around at 190 before that time.

 
 
 
Comment by dave
2008-06-12 14:13:59

Shogun cuts as well. It’s a part of the whole strategy of fighters. How much weight can you cut? Cutting too much can also be dangerous because of the lack of water and damage to the body. Don’t worry about your precious Shogun, he’ll be back eventually and hopefully in shape and healed. If not, his career was short and entertaining, and ended on a bad note.

Comment by RobH86
2008-06-12 21:36:52

I would be seriously concerned for Shogun like I was for Mir (completely different I know). Hope he makes some good money teaching. I don’t mean to be pessimistic but I don’t think we’ll see him at the summit of the sport again. Hope I’m wrong.

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Comment by Space
2008-06-12 12:40:12

Don’t say “that’s fine” when people don’t want to talk about money Wagner.

 
Comment by sporto
2008-06-12 12:43:48

I see Forrest taking this one.

 
Comment by Revjames13
2008-06-12 13:01:29

Regardless of what his walk around weight is, Forrest does not strike me as a big light heavy by any stretch of the imagination. He’s on the tall side at 6′3 and has no body fat, but has a wiry look compared to someone like Rampage.

Forrest is in way over his head in this fight, but that’s part of what makes it interesting. This was maybe the UFC’s one chance to get him a title shot and they grabbed it. Don’t blame them, because Griffin is very marketable. He’s going to need the fight of his life just to make this competitive, let alone win it. I’m really rooting for him to survive the first couple rounds, where the odds of Rampage KO’ing him are at least 50%. If it goes to 4 and 5, you’ve got to give Griffin at least a c-hairs chance of getting off a miracle sub on a tired Rampage. I’d say Forrest is a 50 to 1 shot.

 
Comment by Fred
2008-06-12 13:12:13

Rampage has the edge, but don’t count out Xtreme Couture and Randy’s ability to gameplan. Forrest will fight the best fight of his life. I see Rampage winning, but anything can happen.

 
Comment by damaja
2008-06-12 15:38:47

I think this will be a great fight. I hope we get to see Rampage slams.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2008-06-12 16:13:28

Forrest is a slow starter, which will probably cost him the fight either by a first round TKO or a UD because he lost the first round decisively. Rampage’s next opponent will be Wander. I’d like to see Spider come up and challenge this division. And I’d like to see Chuck move up to HW and go for that belt.

 
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