I am excited about this main event, but then I am not. I dont think that Forrest has the cardio to keep up with Rampage, and I think Rampage is a lot stronger than Forrest and has a stronger chin. I don’t think Rampage is going to be drawn into a slug fest with Forrest, and I think Rampage will win this via Round 2 TKO.
watch his Rua fight. He was dead in the 3rd round. He looked tired in his fight against Mad Dog as well. Forrest is going to over train for this fight. I just got the feeling.
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Comment by ( (Adam G) )
2008-06-10 21:00:43
maybe you’re right, this card sucks too much for me to care about lol, i wanna see BJ, GSP, or Anderson, anyting else on those cards is a bonus.
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2008-06-10 21:01:22
Lytle/Koscheck is going to be a treat and Gurgel/Miller will be.. oh wait. Thats on the undercard. We wont see that. That has Decision written all over it.
Comment by john
2008-06-11 06:22:10
Lets be honest: Rampage will completely outclass Forrest. There is nothing in mma that Forrest does better then Rampage….There is no way that Forrest can Finish the fight, while Rampage has many different potential ways of taking Forrest OUT! Forrest wont make it to a third round against Page!
I look forward to winning money on Chris Lytle, after he knocks out Koschek!
Comment by john
2008-06-11 06:23:39
almeida will submt Cote
Comment by Smokes
2008-06-11 07:54:10
I’m just going to go out on a limb and call an upset. A major upset like Forrest TKO’s Rampage. I know Rampage would beat Forrest hands down but again just going out on a limb. I didn’t think Forrest would beat Rua either
I dont understand why either. Forrest after round 2 will start taking huge breaths and will start looking up at the clock for time because he wants out of the cage because of fatigue.
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Comment by bnf
2008-06-10 21:43:30
Just because Forrest looks like a monkey after a marathon when he breathes doesn’t mean he is really tired. Jacare said in a Sherdog interview that he trains more than anyone at Extreme Colture and specifically said the best part of his game was cardio. This fight will be more competative than most people think.
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-06-11 06:24:16
LMFAO! “Like a monkey after a Marathon?” funny stuff.
Comment by john
2008-06-11 08:00:59
So BNF, you read the Jacre interview….It was a good interview wasnt it? I enjoyed it.
Doesnt matter how hard Forrest trains because Rampage has shown the ability to fight hard for 5 rounds, something Forrest has never experienced.
Also Rampage comes from Pride, and in pride, a standard fight was 20 minutes anyway. So Rampage has basically been fighting 20 minute fights for the past 6 or 7 years.
Forrest can not win this fight because he dos not have the ability to Finish Rampage. Lets be serious, who has Forrest ever knocked out? In addition, Rampage has a better chin then anyone Forrest has ever faced. Also, Forrest defense consists of blocking punches with his face, something he can not afford to do when fighting Page. Rampage has ko power in both hands, forrest has a questionable chin. No way in the world that Forrests chin can hold up against one of Rampages nasty hooks, or devestating upper cutts.
Stand up advantage goes to Rampage, by a lot!
Wrestling goes to Rampage
ju jitsu: Even, Rampage’s submission defense is probably better then Forrest’s. Either way this fight will not end in a submission.
When it copmes down to it, this will be the toughest fight of Forrest Griffin’s career, the same can not be said about Rampage.
Rampage and the Unders is the pick here! Hopefully all you TUF fans that dont know any better will throw there money away on Forrest, making the Ramp0age odds even sweeter. No matter what, I am betting really Big on Rampage. Odds dont matter if you know the guy you will bet on WONT LOOSE!!!
Comment by bnf
2008-06-11 09:22:30
Good analyists John. And I generally don’t bet on fights so I’m sorry I can’t help your odds. This is just one of those fights on paper it is all Rampage, but I have not been overly impressed with him and I just have a feeling Forrest will push the pace, tire him out and submit him late in the fight… CB Dollaway submitted him in 30 seconds… LOL!
Comment by JV
2008-06-11 09:32:34
bnf, Rampage getting caught in that choke was kinda stupid on his part. He was trying to look tough when he tells CB come on lets go, then gets caught and tries to act cool about it and laughs it off.
Comment by PJJ
2008-06-11 09:33:04
John, you say Rampage has many more ways to win than Forrest and I was just wondering what the many were? He can knock him out or he can win by decision. Rampage doesn’t use a variety of kicks in his attack and he has next to zero chance of subbing someone. He has said multiple times he doesn’t want to submit someone because he doesn’t want his opponent to come back afterwards and say ‘Page was lucky and just caught him.
Unwillingness to use and ignoring opportunities to win make him suspect in any championship level fight. He is tough as hell, but when he runs up against someone just as tough and athletic as he is, only more intelligent and well rounded he will lose most every time. (That said, I don’t know if this will be the time. I just know that Forrest is willing to win in any method available in front of him.)
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-06-11 10:22:06
Forrest has a snow balls chance in hell, beating Rampage..
There is no need to argue over this fight..
It is easy to see that, Rampage will beat the living daylights out of Forrest….
I love Forrest, but Rampage has come to far, to lose to Forrest..Simply Rampage is on another level..
Rampage .vs. Forrest = Easy win for Page!
Comment by john
2008-06-11 11:23:21
Stager Lee: ABSOLUTELY!!! U nailed It! Its pretty simple, Rampage will just Beat Forrest up!
PJJ: What are u talking about Dude? Rampage has a couple of different ways to win. KO from a punch, KO from a knee (Rampage’s Muy Tai is under rated). Ground n Pound, Slam, decision!
How can Forrest win the fight? Only man to ever submit Rampage was Sakuraba, in Page’s 1st Pride fight. He has fought some tough submission machines and never got caught in a submission like Arona, Bustamante, Ninja….u really think Forrest is going to submit him? Lets be REAL! Rampage just slams his way out of most submissions anyway.
Rampage has one of the Nastiest Ground n pound in the world. He ground n pounded Chuck into submission in their 1st fight. Rampage is one of the best in the world at attacking the body with punches, elbows and knees during his ground n pound assaults. His supperior wrestling helps him control the fighter who’s ass he is whooping up on! He has out-wrestloed top guys like: Lindland, Henderson, Chuck, Arona.
Exactly. I don’t know why the UFC insists on creating a ‘rivalry’ between all of their main events. It’s starting to get ridiculous. The worst was the faux feud between GSP and Matt Serra. They both struggled to talk smack about each other. Screw it. Just fight.
I got no clue how they can say he tore through Henderson…..Henderson won both 1st and 2nd round then lost the next 3….How the hell does that =Tore through????? Anyways Rampage should massacre Forrest shouldnt go past the 2nd round. Shogun is hopefully going to fully recover before his next fight and take UFC fighters seriously this time.
Dude I have been having this argument for months now. They are all going to give you the “Shogun was hurt and he couldn’t train properly”. That argument is played out. Let’s move forward. I got Forrest by upset in the later rounds. Now everone will jump my sh%t. Who cares cause they all jumped my sh%t about Alves!!!
bnf and JV, either you guys are correct or we are. if the “shogun was hurt” argument is played out than the “give forrest a chance because he beat shogun” argument is just as played out. One goes with the other (meaning forrest beat shogun because he was injured). We’ll see when this fight goes down which argument was correct, if rampage comes out and destroys forrest I got a feeling my argument was correct, if forrest beats rampage in any fashion, than I’ll give forrest his dues. I got a feeling I’m correct though
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Comment by john
2008-06-11 08:04:03
Linx: Trust me on this, you are 100% CORRECT!!
Comment by JV
2008-06-11 08:20:15
Linx, my reason for saying Forrest has a big chance in this fight is that Rampage has not fought (besides Chuck) a true LHW. Eastman was a MW and so was Hendo. We all see how small Hendo is compared to the LHW’s. The Chuck fight didnt last long enough to see how Rampage would deal with a true LHW. But I can give you an excuse (Chuck dominated the division so long that he wasnt hungry when he fought Rampage)(And he didnt take Jardine serious) Look IMO Forrest is a true LHW, the dude is big, thats why I think he’ll give Rampage problems.
Comment by linx
2008-06-11 08:30:42
JV, size doesn’t mean they’ll win the fight, look at wandy vs jardine. and excuses that a person’s mind was not 100% in the fight made by fans such as us doesn’t hold water because we’re implying that it was an issue without it being fact, but a knee injury such as shogun’s is not a guess, it’s a fact! As far as rampage not fighting true LHWs I guess you’re right, if you only count his UFC fights and excludes everything else. I’ve followed rampage for a long time, I know what he’s capable of doing, and I have a pretty good feeling of what’s going to go down in his fight with forrest. Sorry, but to me it’s not going to be even close…
Comment by JV
2008-06-11 09:16:35
I didnt say size wins linx, I said Forrest’s size will give Rampage problems. To me a mental problem is worse than a physical one, but thats besides the point. All I’m saying is, I think Forrest has a much better chance at winning than people give him credit for. All these comments have been posted before, Forrest has no chance against Shogun, Wandy will destroy Chuck, I think john said Davis would KO Swick, Penn would submit Hughes in there second fight, Serra has no chance at GSP in there first, you get my point?
Comment by linx
2008-06-11 09:30:17
JV, I know where you’re coming from, upsets do happen in MMA and it happens quite often. The thing is, if I were to bet money on the matter, I’d bet rampage for what I know what he’s capable of than forrest. Rampage has just more ‘weight’ on this issue to me, he is the favorite but an upset is not impossible and we all know that. But if I was to bet, I’d bet my house on page
BTW, what I meant about the mental issue is that we make these things up for the fighters, chuck to my knowledge never came out and said he didn’t take page and jardine seriously (if he did I would lose a lot of respect for the guy). But the fans were the ones who said this. So we’re making excuses for them, while an injury is not a guess as it is with the mental issue, it’s a fact.
Comment by Pat
2008-06-11 09:30:49
Speaking of Serra-GSP, I still haven’t come across anyone who predicted the winner in both fights. The guys that picked Serra to beat GSP in the first match also picked him to win the second match. Anybody know any different?
Comment by JV
2008-06-11 09:46:30
linx, I’m glad you said upsets happen, so why all the Forrest is getting massacred? So you agree Forrest has a better chance than people say right? And I understand completely on the betting part cause I’m not betting on Forrest, but I do want him to win. I’m not one to make excuses for fighters if I’m a fan. I’ll always give credit were credit is do.
Comment by linx
2008-06-11 10:27:54
JV, I’m still going to say rampage is going to destroy forrest, but there is always a chance for upstes (this is why I’m not the betting type)!
The other problem with the argument about Shogun’s injury is that while one can say it was his poor conditioning that cost him at the end of the fight, he was getting bettered early in the fight before the cardio was an issue. Also, Forrest had shoulder surgery afterwards. He was less 100%. The knee injury is fact. The impact it had on the fight compared to all other factors is speculation. That is also fact!
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Comment by linx
2008-06-11 10:31:35
PJJ, I’m not going to debate this again, to me a knee injury is much worse than a shoulder injury but this debate is old and done for. I’m just glad shogun is recovering and might be fighting chuck next, and when he beats chuck the loss to forrest is not going to matter much anymore because by then he’ll have lost to page
Comment by john
2008-06-11 11:26:18
Linx: I would have ended the argument a long time ago. U r a patient man! Good luck trying to talk some sense into those 2. I gave up on JV a long time ago!
MMamania.com can you or the mma community ask the ufc if they can air all bouts including the indercard on every fight for extra money …cux i like others have a mac and we cant watch it on demand anyway. Also an extra 5 bucks and i’d pay.
i’m sick of the shorter cards as compared to the past with an increased ppv.
thanks!
Forrest by first round KO (Spinning back fist), Y’all are crazy look at the list of opponents each fighter has faced and then talk to me. Forrest is the pfp best fighter in the world.
HAHAHAHAHAHA ur joking right the only reason forrest is getting a title shot is cause her kisses the right but cheek while over-rated chuck kisses the left
I see two things wrong with your post:1- Chuck is not overrated, he has faced possibly the toughest list of opponents out of anyone. 2 Judging by your s/n, you listen to Insane Clown Posse, and they are terrible. haha
over-rated chuck was defending the title every 2 to 3 months not sitting out of the game for 10 months, I don’t blame rampage for that, but the ufc always says 205 is the most hotly contested title, but it hasn’t been contested since sept of last year. DANA WHITE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE NO CHAMPION SITS OUT OF THE GAME FOR TEN MONTHS. Rampage is probably wondering why he has had the belt for a year and hasn’t been able to showcase his talent but one time, give the man a chance to build his legacy as champ. DO NOT LEAVE A CHAMPION ON THE BENCH, AND DON’T LEAVE THE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE ON THE SHELF FOR TEN MONTHS, SHOW THE FANS MORE RESPECT THAN THAT.
Yo no abla LMAO! maybe “Im better . . much better” like my shadowboxing video is better than yours, much better. for the contest. LoL, i really dont know, when he’s in Hawaii he gets native with his tongue in a hawaiian slang. LoL . . .
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Comment by The Anomaly
2008-06-11 00:51:27
haha ima start sayin that all the time.
Comment by ( (Adam G) )
2008-06-11 00:55:55
He says wierd sh*t all the time, and in that chpimnk voice makes it all the more funny!!
Forrest seems like a cool guy and I don’t question his heart, but he is going to get blasted at some point in this fight. The prevailing opinion is that if Chuck wins in September, he will get the next shot. I am wondering if this is one of those deals where Wandy matches up better with Rampage than Chuck does. It might be better for Chuck if Wandy fights Rampage in the fall.
I think you are right, but I think Chuck will end up getting the shot before Wandy. I kinda look at it like this:
Chuck=rock
Wandy=scissors
Rampage=paper
natural, even though I feel wandy will beat chuck in a rematch, that has to be the best argument for some of the MMA stuns ever regarding styles. so many times we have this happen and this is the first reference to a rocks, paper, scissors game I ever seen. good job!
What do you guys think for the betting on this event? Who looks good? Im thinkin a little on Jackson, even though he is a big favorite.
BUt the one that stands out to me is Lytle, who right now is +240. Thats pretty bomb man, i mean Lytle is a beast, Serra and Hughes couldnt hurt him on the ground, so Kos ahs his work cut out for him, and Lytle will kill him in stand up I think. What does everybody think?
The Anomaly: I already bet $200 on Chris Lytle. I feel that Lytle is going to flat out, KO Koschek!
Also, dont let the odds on the Rampage fight scare you off! Rampage will win the fight in under 3 rounds, so the odds really dont matter. I am betting RAMPAGE BIG!!!!
I will also end up throwing some money on Almeida. His stand up is good enough to keep him in the fight, but once it goes to the ground, he is on a class above the rest…I see him submitting Cote (who I happen to be a big fan of)…Just calling it like I see it!
Perfect man, thanks, looked like we agreed on most everything for this one then, I feel better about my bets now, gotta win some of that back that I lost on Nate Marquart.
Am I the only one noticing they’ve changed the way they’re promoting the Cote-Almeida fight? It’s not “for a title shot” anymore, but “for moving up the contention ladder” or something among those lines.
That is, if this trailer ain’t actually older than the one on the 86.ufc.com website.
this dont have nothing to do with the above but the ppv shit has to stop put that shit on tv. talking about the forest title fight coming up i’m going bellie up on the ufc because of all the ppv thank god for wec.
Ehhh, not stoked on this one, but whatever, main event could be chill.
I am excited about this main event, but then I am not. I dont think that Forrest has the cardio to keep up with Rampage, and I think Rampage is a lot stronger than Forrest and has a stronger chin. I don’t think Rampage is going to be drawn into a slug fest with Forrest, and I think Rampage will win this via Round 2 TKO.
I see him having the cardio, just not the talent.
watch his Rua fight. He was dead in the 3rd round. He looked tired in his fight against Mad Dog as well. Forrest is going to over train for this fight. I just got the feeling.
maybe you’re right, this card sucks too much for me to care about lol, i wanna see BJ, GSP, or Anderson, anyting else on those cards is a bonus.
Lytle/Koscheck is going to be a treat and Gurgel/Miller will be.. oh wait. Thats on the undercard. We wont see that. That has Decision written all over it.
Lets be honest: Rampage will completely outclass Forrest. There is nothing in mma that Forrest does better then Rampage….There is no way that Forrest can Finish the fight, while Rampage has many different potential ways of taking Forrest OUT! Forrest wont make it to a third round against Page!
I look forward to winning money on Chris Lytle, after he knocks out Koschek!
almeida will submt Cote
I’m just going to go out on a limb and call an upset. A major upset like Forrest TKO’s Rampage. I know Rampage would beat Forrest hands down but again just going out on a limb. I didn’t think Forrest would beat Rua either
Or the power.
I don’t think anyone has ever questioned Forests cardio.
I dont understand why either. Forrest after round 2 will start taking huge breaths and will start looking up at the clock for time because he wants out of the cage because of fatigue.
Just because Forrest looks like a monkey after a marathon when he breathes doesn’t mean he is really tired. Jacare said in a Sherdog interview that he trains more than anyone at Extreme Colture and specifically said the best part of his game was cardio. This fight will be more competative than most people think.
LMFAO! “Like a monkey after a Marathon?” funny stuff.
So BNF, you read the Jacre interview….It was a good interview wasnt it? I enjoyed it.
Doesnt matter how hard Forrest trains because Rampage has shown the ability to fight hard for 5 rounds, something Forrest has never experienced.
Also Rampage comes from Pride, and in pride, a standard fight was 20 minutes anyway. So Rampage has basically been fighting 20 minute fights for the past 6 or 7 years.
Forrest can not win this fight because he dos not have the ability to Finish Rampage. Lets be serious, who has Forrest ever knocked out? In addition, Rampage has a better chin then anyone Forrest has ever faced. Also, Forrest defense consists of blocking punches with his face, something he can not afford to do when fighting Page. Rampage has ko power in both hands, forrest has a questionable chin. No way in the world that Forrests chin can hold up against one of Rampages nasty hooks, or devestating upper cutts.
Stand up advantage goes to Rampage, by a lot!
Wrestling goes to Rampage
ju jitsu: Even, Rampage’s submission defense is probably better then Forrest’s. Either way this fight will not end in a submission.
When it copmes down to it, this will be the toughest fight of Forrest Griffin’s career, the same can not be said about Rampage.
Rampage and the Unders is the pick here! Hopefully all you TUF fans that dont know any better will throw there money away on Forrest, making the Ramp0age odds even sweeter. No matter what, I am betting really Big on Rampage. Odds dont matter if you know the guy you will bet on WONT LOOSE!!!
Good analyists John. And I generally don’t bet on fights so I’m sorry I can’t help your odds. This is just one of those fights on paper it is all Rampage, but I have not been overly impressed with him and I just have a feeling Forrest will push the pace, tire him out and submit him late in the fight… CB Dollaway submitted him in 30 seconds… LOL!
bnf, Rampage getting caught in that choke was kinda stupid on his part. He was trying to look tough when he tells CB come on lets go, then gets caught and tries to act cool about it and laughs it off.
John, you say Rampage has many more ways to win than Forrest and I was just wondering what the many were? He can knock him out or he can win by decision. Rampage doesn’t use a variety of kicks in his attack and he has next to zero chance of subbing someone. He has said multiple times he doesn’t want to submit someone because he doesn’t want his opponent to come back afterwards and say ‘Page was lucky and just caught him.
Unwillingness to use and ignoring opportunities to win make him suspect in any championship level fight. He is tough as hell, but when he runs up against someone just as tough and athletic as he is, only more intelligent and well rounded he will lose most every time. (That said, I don’t know if this will be the time. I just know that Forrest is willing to win in any method available in front of him.)
Forrest has a snow balls chance in hell, beating Rampage..
There is no need to argue over this fight..
It is easy to see that, Rampage will beat the living daylights out of Forrest….
I love Forrest, but Rampage has come to far, to lose to Forrest..Simply Rampage is on another level..
Rampage .vs. Forrest = Easy win for Page!
Stager Lee: ABSOLUTELY!!! U nailed It! Its pretty simple, Rampage will just Beat Forrest up!
PJJ: What are u talking about Dude? Rampage has a couple of different ways to win. KO from a punch, KO from a knee (Rampage’s Muy Tai is under rated). Ground n Pound, Slam, decision!
How can Forrest win the fight? Only man to ever submit Rampage was Sakuraba, in Page’s 1st Pride fight. He has fought some tough submission machines and never got caught in a submission like Arona, Bustamante, Ninja….u really think Forrest is going to submit him? Lets be REAL! Rampage just slams his way out of most submissions anyway.
Rampage has one of the Nastiest Ground n pound in the world. He ground n pounded Chuck into submission in their 1st fight. Rampage is one of the best in the world at attacking the body with punches, elbows and knees during his ground n pound assaults. His supperior wrestling helps him control the fighter who’s ass he is whooping up on! He has out-wrestloed top guys like: Lindland, Henderson, Chuck, Arona.
Bottom Line, forrest is in big trouble!!
Crappy promo. OK event. Griffin is the HUGE underdog, apparently.
Hahaha. What rivalry?
Exactly. I don’t know why the UFC insists on creating a ‘rivalry’ between all of their main events. It’s starting to get ridiculous. The worst was the faux feud between GSP and Matt Serra. They both struggled to talk smack about each other. Screw it. Just fight.
WORD! They got lucky Sherk did roids (or WHATEVER) so they had something to build on fo that one.
lol unfourtantly.
rampage wins 1st round by brutal ko then we might see forrest breakdown like he did in the jardine fight.
this is not going to be a fight, it will be a massacre!
Linx: I am happy to see one of the bloggers i respect the most on this site, feels the same way as I do!
thanks John, soon everyone will see as we do
Rampage will smash everyone put in front of him.
I got no clue how they can say he tore through Henderson…..Henderson won both 1st and 2nd round then lost the next 3….How the hell does that =Tore through????? Anyways Rampage should massacre Forrest shouldnt go past the 2nd round. Shogun is hopefully going to fully recover before his next fight and take UFC fighters seriously this time.
You guys probably didnt give Forrest a chance with Shogun either, that was a good call huh.
Dude I have been having this argument for months now. They are all going to give you the “Shogun was hurt and he couldn’t train properly”. That argument is played out. Let’s move forward. I got Forrest by upset in the later rounds. Now everone will jump my sh%t. Who cares cause they all jumped my sh%t about Alves!!!
bnf and JV, either you guys are correct or we are. if the “shogun was hurt” argument is played out than the “give forrest a chance because he beat shogun” argument is just as played out. One goes with the other (meaning forrest beat shogun because he was injured). We’ll see when this fight goes down which argument was correct, if rampage comes out and destroys forrest I got a feeling my argument was correct, if forrest beats rampage in any fashion, than I’ll give forrest his dues. I got a feeling I’m correct though
Linx: Trust me on this, you are 100% CORRECT!!
Linx, my reason for saying Forrest has a big chance in this fight is that Rampage has not fought (besides Chuck) a true LHW. Eastman was a MW and so was Hendo. We all see how small Hendo is compared to the LHW’s. The Chuck fight didnt last long enough to see how Rampage would deal with a true LHW. But I can give you an excuse (Chuck dominated the division so long that he wasnt hungry when he fought Rampage)(And he didnt take Jardine serious) Look IMO Forrest is a true LHW, the dude is big, thats why I think he’ll give Rampage problems.
JV, size doesn’t mean they’ll win the fight, look at wandy vs jardine. and excuses that a person’s mind was not 100% in the fight made by fans such as us doesn’t hold water because we’re implying that it was an issue without it being fact, but a knee injury such as shogun’s is not a guess, it’s a fact! As far as rampage not fighting true LHWs I guess you’re right, if you only count his UFC fights and excludes everything else. I’ve followed rampage for a long time, I know what he’s capable of doing, and I have a pretty good feeling of what’s going to go down in his fight with forrest. Sorry, but to me it’s not going to be even close…
I didnt say size wins linx, I said Forrest’s size will give Rampage problems. To me a mental problem is worse than a physical one, but thats besides the point. All I’m saying is, I think Forrest has a much better chance at winning than people give him credit for. All these comments have been posted before, Forrest has no chance against Shogun, Wandy will destroy Chuck, I think john said Davis would KO Swick, Penn would submit Hughes in there second fight, Serra has no chance at GSP in there first, you get my point?
JV, I know where you’re coming from, upsets do happen in MMA and it happens quite often. The thing is, if I were to bet money on the matter, I’d bet rampage for what I know what he’s capable of than forrest. Rampage has just more ‘weight’ on this issue to me, he is the favorite but an upset is not impossible and we all know that. But if I was to bet, I’d bet my house on page
BTW, what I meant about the mental issue is that we make these things up for the fighters, chuck to my knowledge never came out and said he didn’t take page and jardine seriously (if he did I would lose a lot of respect for the guy). But the fans were the ones who said this. So we’re making excuses for them, while an injury is not a guess as it is with the mental issue, it’s a fact.
Speaking of Serra-GSP, I still haven’t come across anyone who predicted the winner in both fights. The guys that picked Serra to beat GSP in the first match also picked him to win the second match. Anybody know any different?
linx, I’m glad you said upsets happen, so why all the Forrest is getting massacred? So you agree Forrest has a better chance than people say right? And I understand completely on the betting part cause I’m not betting on Forrest, but I do want him to win. I’m not one to make excuses for fighters if I’m a fan. I’ll always give credit were credit is do.
JV, I’m still going to say rampage is going to destroy forrest, but there is always a chance for upstes (this is why I’m not the betting type)!
The other problem with the argument about Shogun’s injury is that while one can say it was his poor conditioning that cost him at the end of the fight, he was getting bettered early in the fight before the cardio was an issue. Also, Forrest had shoulder surgery afterwards. He was less 100%. The knee injury is fact. The impact it had on the fight compared to all other factors is speculation. That is also fact!
PJJ, I’m not going to debate this again, to me a knee injury is much worse than a shoulder injury but this debate is old and done for. I’m just glad shogun is recovering and might be fighting chuck next, and when he beats chuck the loss to forrest is not going to matter much anymore because by then he’ll have lost to page
Linx: I would have ended the argument a long time ago. U r a patient man! Good luck trying to talk some sense into those 2. I gave up on JV a long time ago!
MMamania.com can you or the mma community ask the ufc if they can air all bouts including the indercard on every fight for extra money …cux i like others have a mac and we cant watch it on demand anyway. Also an extra 5 bucks and i’d pay.
i’m sick of the shorter cards as compared to the past with an increased ppv.
thanks!
Why can’t you view it with a mac? Webpages has nothing to do with hardware, as long as you have Firefox or any suitable browser you should be set…
Forrest by first round KO (Spinning back fist), Y’all are crazy look at the list of opponents each fighter has faced and then talk to me. Forrest is the pfp best fighter in the world.
HAHAHAHAHAHA ur joking right the only reason forrest is getting a title shot is cause her kisses the right but cheek while over-rated chuck kisses the left
by the way chris lytle 2nd round tko over kos
I see two things wrong with your post:1- Chuck is not overrated, he has faced possibly the toughest list of opponents out of anyone. 2 Judging by your s/n, you listen to Insane Clown Posse, and they are terrible. haha
You’re funny nat!! ICP does suck snatch!
over-rated chuck was defending the title every 2 to 3 months not sitting out of the game for 10 months, I don’t blame rampage for that, but the ufc always says 205 is the most hotly contested title, but it hasn’t been contested since sept of last year. DANA WHITE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE NO CHAMPION SITS OUT OF THE GAME FOR TEN MONTHS. Rampage is probably wondering why he has had the belt for a year and hasn’t been able to showcase his talent but one time, give the man a chance to build his legacy as champ. DO NOT LEAVE A CHAMPION ON THE BENCH, AND DON’T LEAVE THE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE ON THE SHELF FOR TEN MONTHS, SHOW THE FANS MORE RESPECT THAN THAT.
You must be out of breath with all that yelling
LMFAO!
i think lytle will ko kos in the first 2 min of the fight b/c kos thinks he can strike w tehe best of them.
Lytle is one of the best strikers?
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293%3AVideo%3A105523 . . . Some random BJ Penn stuff (video)
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293%3AVideo%3A113290 . . . BJ Penn Shadowboxing (video)
haha what is it adam? “ma betta mo betta”?
Yo no abla LMAO! maybe “Im better . . much better” like my shadowboxing video is better than yours, much better. for the contest. LoL, i really dont know, when he’s in Hawaii he gets native with his tongue in a hawaiian slang. LoL . . .
haha ima start sayin that all the time.
He says wierd sh*t all the time, and in that chpimnk voice makes it all the more funny!!
Forrest seems like a cool guy and I don’t question his heart, but he is going to get blasted at some point in this fight. The prevailing opinion is that if Chuck wins in September, he will get the next shot. I am wondering if this is one of those deals where Wandy matches up better with Rampage than Chuck does. It might be better for Chuck if Wandy fights Rampage in the fall.
I think you are right, but I think Chuck will end up getting the shot before Wandy. I kinda look at it like this:
Chuck=rock
Wandy=scissors
Rampage=paper
natural, even though I feel wandy will beat chuck in a rematch, that has to be the best argument for some of the MMA stuns ever regarding styles. so many times we have this happen and this is the first reference to a rocks, paper, scissors game I ever seen. good job!
absolutely awesome analogy!
Perfect analysis. A perfect explanation as to why MMa math does not work.
What do you guys think for the betting on this event? Who looks good? Im thinkin a little on Jackson, even though he is a big favorite.
BUt the one that stands out to me is Lytle, who right now is +240. Thats pretty bomb man, i mean Lytle is a beast, Serra and Hughes couldnt hurt him on the ground, so Kos ahs his work cut out for him, and Lytle will kill him in stand up I think. What does everybody think?
The Anomaly: I already bet $200 on Chris Lytle. I feel that Lytle is going to flat out, KO Koschek!
Also, dont let the odds on the Rampage fight scare you off! Rampage will win the fight in under 3 rounds, so the odds really dont matter. I am betting RAMPAGE BIG!!!!
I will also end up throwing some money on Almeida. His stand up is good enough to keep him in the fight, but once it goes to the ground, he is on a class above the rest…I see him submitting Cote (who I happen to be a big fan of)…Just calling it like I see it!
Perfect man, thanks, looked like we agreed on most everything for this one then, I feel better about my bets now, gotta win some of that back that I lost on Nate Marquart.
We wait 10 months and we get jackson-forrest, that is ridiculous. And this is the most hotly contested title in the ufc. We’re fans, not idiots.
I think naturalshadows idea was cool.
Am I the only one noticing they’ve changed the way they’re promoting the Cote-Almeida fight? It’s not “for a title shot” anymore, but “for moving up the contention ladder” or something among those lines.
That is, if this trailer ain’t actually older than the one on the 86.ufc.com website.
I noticed that too. I thought it was odd that they would say the fight would be for a title shot; I think they’ve got it right in the trailer.
this dont have nothing to do with the above but the ppv shit has to stop put that shit on tv. talking about the forest title fight coming up i’m going bellie up on the ufc because of all the ppv thank god for wec.