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That ref does SUCK!!!
How the hell can you let Kimbo slide one week earlier?, and then call it soo quick???Granted Thompson is no Werdum, but WTF?? that was bullshit!…
CB Dollaway looses to Amir Sadollah!
true that!! amir was my pick to win from the start!! and cb stole my name lol!
and a side note… john what does this have to do with the current topic? lol!
damnit, i have it DVR’ed and haven’t watched it yet
how can you know that? they havent even played the episode where they fight…. but CB is a dink so i hope your right
Yeah but that show was in the can months ago. Some stupid commercial during UFC last Saturday hinted at a big TUF upset. So most are assuming Amir wins. Which would be TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!
And it still won’t make the front page of the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Crappy paper.
That’s awesome – way to ruin it for others. I can probably guess you don’t have many friends.
where did you hear of this?! The fight doesn’t air until the 11th.
He’s basing on the fact that they are advertising that during the last two episodes, we will see the biggest shocker in TUF history.
Sorry John. You can’t claim to be the first one to state this. I said it right after they were hyping the biggest shocker ever in TUF history on the PPV. I don’t know if you got a spoiler and have this as fact, but I predicted it “John-stradamus” style. (*All rights reserved)
CB loses? YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
gET IN!
word. CB is a douche.
no way cb will lose. can’t beleive people are buying inot that hype, no way best fighter tuf has ever had (during the time on the show) he will only get better
Basketball players know certain refs are going to put them on the line more than others
Baseball players know certain refs have bigger strike zones than others
fighters realize certain refs are going to let more go and some will stop the fight quick, so you have to work harder!
“douche bag” Dan mergliotta is the most inconsistant referee out there. One week you allow a man to take 80+ elbows over a minute, the next week you let a guy (with actual talent and skill) take 3 or 4 punches over a 10 second period of time.
Vera would have been done if there were more time in the round, but there wasn’t! This was a horrible stoppage, and I don’t expect to se him refereeing again.
I’m not a matt hughes fan, but I have so much respect for a guy who says “he just beat me.” He didn’t mention that alves was bigger and fresher from not cutting weight, or try to make any other excuse. I can only respect a guy who loses, admits it (with no excuse) and looks ahead!
So Kevin, no respect for Vera? I think he’s being an ass. A bad stoppage, but no matter what, why would Vera not try to get up or push him off? Vera just put his hands up to his face and stayed there. And why does he keep talking about the Tim Silvia fight? He fought like shit, the excuse of the hand is bullshit. I’m kinda sorta still a fan but dam he makes to many excuses.
Vera has a point and he feel he has to air it then its his right, whats meant to be will be.
Kevin, agree and disagree.
I agree about Hughes. For everyone that says he is a dick (and I don’t disagree he’s a cocky SOB; he has the right to be ultra-confident when he won that often), when he wins or loses he always acts classy. He doesn’t make excuses for losses. He still gives credit to his opponent after he has defeated them. Respect him for that.
I disagree (to a point) that Vera was done if there were more time in the round. He knew how much time was left so he was covering up to just defend ’til the end of the round. If there was 2:30 left, he would have done more to actually escape. That said, the ref does suck and you’re right that these guys have to presume certain refs will allow more based on their previous tendencies. I don’t understand what Vera means by he understands why Werdum doesn’t want to fight him again. Was he ever in danger?
Vera had him rocked, and as far as more time left hewould have done more, what are you going to do when a bjj specialist has you mounted? He would have maybe given up his back. I agree that he covered up and assumed that it wouldn’t get stopped in ten seconds. I have respect for Vera, he mentioned the silvia fight because he broke his hand in the first minute and fought 3 rounds. He didn’t use it as an excuse, he used it as an example that he wasn’t going to quit!
I think Vera was saying that so Werdum would ask for the rematch aswell as Brandon wanting it..
If both of them are bugging to fight eachother it will happen…Vera heard Werdum say he does not want to fight’ So he was probably like (imo) Im going to make him want to fight me..
just a guess, as to why he would say that?
Because imo he was losing the round..But that ref does suck, and the stoppage was bullshit!.
I’ve met Dan Mirgliotta and he’s a top bloke!
But stop of his stopages as terrible!
Not only this, but check out the Matt Wiman vs Thiago Tavares fight. He really made a big mistake there.
Check out between rounds 1 and 2, when Dan goes over to Matt Wiman and gives him a warning for kicking a ground opponent in the face, when it was Thiago Tavares that had kicked Matt Wiman in the face when on the ground!!! Which i might add, he didn’t even interrupt when it happened!!!
He needed Chuck Liddell to tell him it was the other guy!!! I’m sorry, but i think this ref is a joke.
Definitely an early stoppage. Really pissed me off too, because I had money on that fight. The action was good until the stoppage. I would really of liked to have seen the rest of that fight…. Mirgliotta Sucks!
u lost money?!?!?! dude i lost 500 bucks!!!!!!!! i put money on 3 fights! i put 250 on hughes, 150 on vera, and 100 on davis! and they all lost!! i’m so pissed. all the money im going to get on my b-day, on the 10th i’ll be 20
, will go to other people. last night had a bunch of upsets, the only person i said would win, and did win, was bisping. and everyone wanted him to win, so i couldn’t bet on that fight.
p.s.
i don’t bet on fights like mike and some the other guys. the way they bet confuses me! lol! i bet with friends and guys i know from my college campus.
Probs to Brandon for the interview – I was in the UK FightClub Friday Night and Dan was with us til LATE – so maybe the dude was just caned from being out late with us BRITS. Gutted for Brandon – but it will only make him stronger and better.
I will say Brandon did look like he was in pain and was doing zero to get out… from now on all fighters take note… give thumbs up!!!
ok so while Werdum is trying to punch him in the face.. you think he should use a hand to give a thumbs up? the ref needs to see brandons eyes and it was obvious that he was 100% there, he wasn’t even close to giving up or going out.. the ref needs to understand that these guys can take a beating..
I was being sarcastic… Kimbo give thumbs up against Thomson and Dan was the ref in that ref… sorry u r not that quick on the uptake!
Since when can a fighter use the clock as form of intelligently defending oneself? I agree the fight was stopped early and I’m glad he gave props to Werdum but look people, when you are mounted and someone is dropping bombs on your face whether they’re perfectly hitting or not, don’t just lay there like a goober covering your face and doing absolutely nothing else but waiting for the round to end…That’s not intelligent.
Reddog, if you are NOT getting hurt, you ARE intelligently defending yourself. Brandon was NOT hurt. Why is that so hard for some to understand. Just like if the fight is standing and your opponent is throwing a multi punch combo, you don’t just block the first one or two and then move your hand to try something else and get KTFO. Any SMART fighter would block until there was a lull in the barage of punches. Vera never had a chance,because the fight was stopped way to soon. No one can GnP forever (you get tired real FAST) and that means the punches get SOFTER not harder. Vera already survived the worst of it (UNSCATHED), he would have been just fine for the remaining few seconds. Lastly I can’t understand why anyone would try to justify a BAD early stoppage, that ended what could have been a great fight, that one PAID to see and WASN’T able to.
When the position started, he did give thumbs up
IMO-That fight was supposed to be the best fight of the night(I was more pumped to see that fight over any of the other fights)….BUT fucking Dan MirgliBadCalla ruined it!!Very pissed!….Fire that fool!
In my best Ray Finkle’s mother impersonation’
“Dan Mirgliotta should die of gonorrhea! and ROT IN HELL!!!!
I hope he eats Taco Hell and gets diarrhea and constipation at the same time. Preferably the second before the first so it burns more.
I’m a Vera fan, but I understand why Werdum doesn’t want a re-match. It’s a no-win situation for him. If he wins, so what, he beat the same guy twice. But if he loses, it’s back to the drawing board. Not everybody can be a trooper like BJ, GSP, or Matt Hughes, who would grant re-matches to guys they already beat.
It happens all the time in boxing. If u beat a guy controversialy then its your duty to give him the rematch. But obiously he is scared and will run away .
Why would Werdum be scared of a guy he kept on the ground easily?
that’s the point he’s scared to stand up with Vera which is why he’s holding him down on ground.
He didn’t keep Vera on the ground easily the first time. Vera just booted him right the f off.
Ya, but it’s a cowardly way out. He has lots to lose,like RESPECT. All it tells me if he is scared to rematch Brandon, is that he seen something in that fight, that led him to believe that there is a GOOD chance that Vera would get the better of him in a rematch. No, I don’t think it would mean he beat the same guy twice, it would mean he ACTUALLY beat him. That fight proved nothing, as to who is the better fighter. Dan beat Vera, Werdum didn’t. Dana make that coward fight Vera again. We paid to see that fight.
Ro, Werdum was getting the better of the standup too.
Gord, Cowardly? It was a bad stoppage but its not Werdum’s fault Vera just layed there. Werdum wants a title shot and fighting Vera again wont get him closer.
I understand that Werdum wants his title shot but I think it’s absolute bullsh*t that he would stand there and claim it was a good stoppage. Vera did anything but just lay there, he NEVER stopped defending himself intelligently, moving side to side and working as much as he could to avoid getting hit, he still could have given up his back to waste a bit more time, he would have EASILY made it out of the first round. I admit it was a bad situation for Vera but there was nothing that happened that would have justified a stoppage by the ref. Bottom line Werdum is showing blatant cowardice in denying a rematch with Vera.
That was ridiculous stopping the fight with 15 seconds left in the round and no serious shots coming down on Vera. That was a great fight and would have probably come down to a close decision had it not been stopped prematurely.
i agree the fight was stopped prematurely. but alot of fights have been stopped right when the round was about to end. bj/sherk and a. silva/marquardt for instance. so fights have been stopped seconds before the bell before. but i’m pissed vera lost! $150 i’ll never see again lol!
ok i’ll say this before anyone else does. werdum wasn’t landing huge shots like silva and bj. i was only saying that fights have been stoped seconds before the bell in the past. the ref should have gave vera more time!!
In addition, about the only shots that were connecting completely are the ones to the back of the head of Vera. I didn’t hear one warning. If he was that worried about Vera’s safety to call it that quickly, one would think he would worry about those off-limits shots.
Dam rights he should have gave Vera more time. He stopped the fight 13 seconds after Werdum got the mount.
this wouldn’t happen if John McCarthy was the ref but he retired is which sucks.
I watched the end of the fight in slow motion, and I didn’t see any clean shots landed by Werdum. The shots were either blocked or deflected before it hit him (significantly decreasing the power behind the shot). Just look at the Goulet fight at Montreal. Goulet didn’t try to improve his position, but he kept moving, and he ended up winning in the fight of the night.
I felt the same way when Chuck stopped Tito the second time … all arm shots and Tito wasn’t even hurt. What is the rule… is it how many shots? How hurt the fighter is?
Wanderlei Silva and Houston Alexander should request that Dan ref all their fights. Then all they’d have to do is bumrush their opponent, and Dan will stop it whether the shots are cleanly getting through or not.
yea but Chuck had Tito hurt a few times in that fight already and how many times did Tito end up in that same position on the ground curled up? I think the ref was just tired of the same old rinse and repeat routine and Tito wasn’t doing anything, just getting hit in the arms and not moving so he called it. If it went on another 2 rounds, would have been the same thing I think. But geez this ref called this one way too early and to think he let Kimbo get hit 70 something times in the crucifix position? LOL what an idiot.
That’s the crazy thing… Kimbo was in his 2nd fight took ten times more punishment and Vera has so much more experince!!!!!!
There was plenty of clean shots but not enough for a stoppage.
But to be honest if werdum would have carried on like that for another 10-15 seconds it would definately been enough.
Just glad I had some money on Werdum though. I was expecting him cos he can take a good shot and then get on the inside and although Vera is decent on the ground he is no Werdum now is he??
I would have liked to see another round but I think it would be the same outcome IMO.
No it wouldn’t have been enough. He had ALREADY been carring on for 13 second and he DIDN”T hurt Vera and ones punches DON’T get harder as he punches himself out. Watch most GnP finishes, if the fighter isn’t out in the first 15 seconds, they usually don’t go out. I would have liked to see another round and I think it would have been a different out come.
Screw Dan. He ruined 3 great fights. The Kimbo fight wasn’t so great but it could have ended in a nice KO.
YES! Finally. “THE TRUTH”
ha he is living up to his nickname eh?
Boo hoo…vera you suck your last two fights you got your ass whipped stop crying and fight,what is the ufc becoming?
You’re a mornon. Tim Syliva held Brandon Vera who actually had a broken hand, up against a cage for 15 minutes. Brandon Vera did not even get hurt in the face after that fight. After the fight, he walked out looking like he just walked in.
You’re a tool.
NC-17 maybe you should go back and see the Tim/Vera fight again. It was Vera who did nothing in the clinch. And the broken hand thing is lame, what happened to his kicks? When Vera took Tim down he did nothing with it.
Why don’t you list some good one handed grapplers to back up your lame argument. Oh ya , that’s right, there aren’t any, you need 2 hands to grapple.
I know what your saying but face the facts VERA IS A OVERRATED FIGHTER that is one of danas up and commers but he is the mirko cro cop of the ufc…he just dont belong, VERA STOP BITCHING AND FIGHT LIKE YOUR SUPPOSED TO and the ref wont have to save your sucky ass from the beatings!
I know I’ll get a lot of hate, but f it, that’s what I call a soared looser. In no way was vera winning the first round, and I don’t care what anybody says, I’ve seen the footage and he was getting hit clearly in the face and not defending himself. It’s definitely debatable that the fight could have gone on and the ref made a bad call, but that one round fight was all werdum, vera got owned and is lying when he says he “rocked” him, he did no such thing…
Who’s arguing that Vera won the first round?
he is…
I agree with you linx, there shouldnt be no hate for the truth.
Ok if you don’t think Werdum was rocked, then you are obviously blind, I guess you must be deaf too, because you didn’t hear Rogan say, “Werdum GOT ROCKED”.
Bottom line Vera sucks, he is not the Brandon Vera we all once knew he has lost his heart and it Fuc*&ng DISGUSTS ME!
Tim Sylvia held him up against a cage for 14 minutes. How does Vera suck?
Vera is a joke. He even claimed that he won that first round, this guy is constantly full of excuses. Either drop to LHW or stfu.
before the mount He was winning that round . Broken hand and Bad Stoppage.. Those are legitimate excuses!
How can a ref call this fight with a TKO with blocked punches when Thompson was hitting with Kimbo with about 15 undefended elbows?!!!
15??? what fight were you watching? it was 80 unanswered blows!!
Yeah and they looked like they had all the power of an 86 year old woman.
A lot of the people who picked Brandon to win the fight did so on the basis that he was going to be able to prevent the takedown, prevent Werdum from passing his guard, and pick him apart standing up…. That wasnt happening.
It was an unfortunate stoppage but if Werdum was able to put him on his back like that and get mount that easy, Vera was in for a tough night.
Vera needs to do himself a favor and drop to LHW. He is one of the softest looking HW’s out there and is getting out muscled.
Agreed!
Ya , and I bet you picked Werdum to win on the basis of a MORON ref, because that is the ONLY way he won. Werdum not getting rocked wasn’t happening either and if Brandon could rock him he could do it again.
If Vera wasnt going to be able to prevent the takedown then he was well on his way to a decision/submission loss. That was the whole basis for a lot of people picking him to win the fight, his abillity to keep it on the feet.
Look how easy Werdum passed his guard and achieved mount.
Vera needs to drop to 205, he is one of the softest looking HW’s out there, and is getting out muscled.
yeah it was a bad stoppage. but they happen, he needs to get over it and move on instead of crying about it.
Brandon Vera does nothing but run his mouth. I like him but I’m beginning to get mixed feelings.
yes. the ref sux. we know. but it was the beginning of the end anyway. 15 seconds more max. it wasn’t the ref’s fault Werdum mounted Vera. gettem next time Vera!
He looked pretty upset in that interview… he obviously feels he was ripped off, im pretty sure he was smiling and laughing after the tim sylvia decision
brandon vera is such a little bitch. when has he not had an excuse?! he’s always so full of excuses it’s pathetic
I hope somebody subs Vera or knocks him out cold so he finally does the right thing and move to LHW. I’m saying this as a fan, it’s for his own good. I’m not saying he has a better chance at being champ at 205, but just like Bisping and Swick, moving down can rejuvenate careers.
I really don’t think he’d do much better at LHW either, considering that division is arguably the toughest in the UFC. The saddest part is I don’t even think he has enough discipline to lay off the ice cream or whatever to make the weight. He seems destined to be a classic underachiever unless he suddenly has a major change in his attitude. As it is, he reminds me a lot of Karo–a guy that has a lot of talent but thinks too much of himself to do the work required to reach his full potential.
Why, is the reffing only bad at HW? Does Dan not ref LHW fights? Jumping divisions won’t change a dam thing as long as refs like Mirgliotta are around the UFC.
im sick of vera crying his time was up he was always gonna loose that fight werdum has never been stopped and he has fought far harder hitters than vera
100% true.
I think he deserves a new nickname–Brandon “the excuse” Vera.
ye exactly thats my knew name for him brandon the excuse vera! you didnt hear nate maurquardt bitchin
Brandon “the excuse” Vera
its official thanks scott
Does anybody else think Vera shoulda gave his back? I know Werdum has great bjj but at least Vera would have tryed something. And another question Would Vera agree with the stoppage if the rolls were reversed?
Terry – Vera is a lot better grappler than people give him credit for. He didn’t really buck or raise his hips but he was using his legs to circle his body underneath Werdum. Sometimes this can help off balance the attacker. I am a BJJ guy myself and that close to the end of the round, I would have done the same thing Vera did. Cover up and us my legs to slowly shrimp underneath him. I would not want to give Werdum my back. Sometimes a strong hiplift or shrimp will give the guy on top a chance to get S-mount or take the back. I think since he was covered up and working with his legs to reposition, the fight should have been allowed to continue a little longer. Werdum is better at BJJ and given time could of finished Vera. But it should have played out. Cleary the ref should let it go longer than this but not nearly as long as the kimbo fight.
I’ve met vera at the Ribeiro brothers BJJ academy and he’s not the cocky guy hes made out to be. He’s confident in his abilities and says it like it is. A broken hand and a bs stoppage are legitimate complaints. I doubt he would change his oppinion about the call if the roles were reversed and I bet he would give Werdum a rematch.
Vera should NOT have voluntarily given up his back, that is BJJ 101. Back is considered a worse position because you can not see your opponent and you can not block your opponent.
Anyone would agree to a decision going their way, Vera included.
BJJ is different from MMA. You’re not getting hit if you’re just doing BJJ.
There is nothing else the UFC can do though really, Mir, and Nog have the Ultimate fight, I think a Vera Werdum Rematch is the most profitable thing right now, maybe a fight night card, or the main event for the next TUF, Mir vs Nog, to determind a number one contender, and bring Big John back, on OTR (a talk show in canada) he said He wasnt dont reffing, he just needed a break, and could see him reffing again, http://www.tsn.ca, go under MMA
UFC needs a super heavyweight division limit from 250 pounds and over and hw division can limit from 220 pounds to not too big 240 pound so the average 220 pound fighters like Vera wouldn’t look small in their division anymore. if you think 240 pound is too big for 220 pound fighter well guess what, Vera defeated 240 pound Frank Mir so it’s possible for 220 pound fighter takin on the bigger 240 pound fighters.
It was justified. You can’t allow a ref to let the fight go if your just mounted and only covering your face from the shots. Doesn’t matter if there is 20 seconds or 2 seconds. If you are being repeatedly beaten and will continue to be beaten the fight should be called. Vera should of done more to protect himself or improve position from the strikes.
Good point, Greg
13 Seconds is not justified. DUH, your suposed to cover your face to protect yourself. That’s why Brandons face looked the same as it did when he started the fight. He was intelligently defending himself. Vera wasn’t getting beaten, that’s the part you’re missing. You’re confusing this with someone who ATE a few flush shots and was aready halfway out and then they covered up. This wasn’t the case here. When it comes to stopping the fight, the refs job is simply to say you had enough, when you are to out of it, to say you had enough. Vera definitely wasn’t to out of it and he was REPEATING, “I’m OK”. Face it, the ref is a moron, we all know his track record,enough said.
Sherdog conducted an interview with John McCarthy today, and IMO it is a must-listen. He had some really good insight on the decisions that were made over the past couple of weeks.
Brandon “The Truth” Vera…his nickname says it all…
vera talks and talks. excuses excuses. saw the fight and i think he said he’ll just take the whoopin for 20 more seconds is just macho talk from the guy who makes a lot of excuses and talks too much… he said.. he should have gone for the kill but he thought fabricio was baiting him… lack of heart there… and he broke his thumb in the silvia fight.. yeah i saw a german boxer alex arthur with jaw broken in 3rd round fought his way to the 12th round and WON…. vera had every chance of ko’d silvia (silva was just catching vera’s fist all night… with his face hahaha)but he didnt..
too bad for the local channel in the philippines who came all the way to england to hype his win(because the UFC plans to go to the philippines this year)and they thought vera would win but he lost..all the papers in the philippines hyped vera before the bout and this is what happened… the fact is this dude has talent but he only has 10 to 12 fights….why on earth are they rushhing him for the championship… also how come vera is demanding 4 a rematch right away… who is he to demand a rematch(he’s acting like a champ already)… if its randy and chuck then its ok
Sooooo stupid, just talks and talks? Dude Vera gave respect to Fabricio multiple times, siad he had a good mount and admitted he wasnt getting out, but he was trying, and the round was about to end.
Stoppage not justified, Vera is a cool, respectalbe guy, who is an awsome well rounded fighter. Cant wait to see him come back strong.
boxing is different from mma, with the broken hand vera can’t push off silvia when he got pinned to the fence. he is better than people think,a loss is a loss but i think he has the right to think he got in on the wrong end of a bad stoppage.
Brandon Vera is a cry baby. This wasn’t a Kimbo like stoppage. Vera was CLEARLY in a position where he shouldn’t have been. I watched the fight again and he wasn’t defending himself intelligently! No where do the rules state that as long as there are 20 seconds in the bout the ref can let you keep on gettin your ass beat! If he wanted to win maybe he should have avoided being on his back and being pounded by Werdum. I really hope Joe Silva and Dana don’t give this clown a rematch. Vera, you LOST, Move on LOSER!
I do see why the fight was stopped. We’ve seen the same exact scenario’s where the guy is not clearly defending himself and they call the fight and the guy just lays there. To me it looked just like that, just when they called the fight, Vera stood right up saying he was ok. He was in a bad position taking shots, it doesnt matter that there was 15-20 seconds left, he needed to do more to protect himself. Why should Fabricio want to fight him, he already beat him once, its not like he’s scared of Vera
To all you haters shitting on Vera, what the hell is wrong with you people, that was the worst stoppage i’ve ever seen, Vera was still actively defending himself, Werdum’s punches were glancing blows at best, and I think that the ref should be somewhat aware of the time left in the round. I’m not trying to take anything away from Werdum(he’s an awsome ground fighter), he won, but by saying it was a good stop by the ref and not acknowledge that Vera is worthy of a rematch and should start climbing the heavyweight ladder again I think shows cowardice and that he knows that Vera would have gotten out of that position at the end of the round and possibly would have knocked him out in the 2nd with his clearly superior striking.
well said, MMAholic.
Cheers Gord!
Also What this bullshit about the Vera-Silvia fight? Do you people understand that if you break any part of your hand in a MMA fight (MMA being the key here, this isn’t boxing you dumbshits) not only does it mess with punching power in that hand but have you maybe thought of the fact that it impairs your ability to push off or push away your opponent in the clinch, against the cage, or anywhere on the ground, and Vera lasted the whole remain 14 minutes of the fight. So maybe you guys should think about that before you start making claims that Vera makes excuses and doesn’t belong in the heavyweight division. I’m not trying to take anything away from Sylvia or Werdum but you can’t say that Vera has lost his heart and doesn’t deserve to be fighting these guys(Am I the only one that saw him beat the shit out of Frank Mir?) Nevertheless it was just bad luck that Vera’s career got put on hold and messed up his run at the title but I have no doubt that in Vera’s next fight he’ll have trained harder and will be ready for whoever the UFC throw in front of him.
Some people just don’t get it that easy. You would have to tape one of their thumbs to their hand (not in a fist either) and throw them in with someone 30lbs lighter and let them get their ASS KICKED and then mayby,just maybe, they would realize, that you need 2 hands to fight in MMA.
Well put.