The official weigh-in results for UFC 85: “Bedlam” at the O2 Arena in London, England, are in.
And there’s some ridiculous news to report.
Thiago Alves came in super heavy at 174 pounds for his main event fight against Matt Hughes. He will not have to shed the extra poundage — he and Hughes have agreed to fight at a catchweight.
He’ll more than likely have to pay Hughes a percentage of his salary for the massive blunder and pay in the court of public opinion for the lack of professionalism.
Here are the official results:
170 lbs.: Matt Hughes (170) vs. Thiago Alves (174)
185 lbs.: Michael Bisping (184) vs. Jason Day (184)
185 lbs.: Nate Marquardt (185) vs. Thales Leites (185)
170 lbs.: Mike Swick (170) vs. Marcus Davis (170)
265 lbs.: Brandon Vera (228) vs. Fabricio Werdum (247)
185 lbs.: Martin Kampmann (186) vs. Jorge Rivera (185)
155 lbs.: Thiago Tavares (154.5) vs. Matt Wiman (155)
170 lbs.: Roan Carneiro (171) vs. Kevin Burns (170)
205 lbs.: Jason Lambert (205) vs. Luis Arthur Cane (204)
170 lbs.: Jess Liaudin (169) vs. Paul Taylor (169)
265 lbs.: Eddie Sanchez (244) vs. Antoni Hardonk (247)
*Note: Fighters are allowed to weigh one pound more than the division limit in non-title fights.
Remember that MMAmania.com will also provide LIVE round-by-round, blow-by-blow coverage of the main card action on fight afternoon, which is slated to air at 3 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV) from the O2 Arena on Saturday, June 7.
Of course, the latest quick updates of the prelim bouts will begin to flow earlier than that at around 1:30 p.m. ET.
It’s going to be an entertaining afternoon of mixed martial arts action … check us out for all the pre, during and post-fight coverage you can handle.
Note that the UFC 85 PPV will re-air at 10 p.m. ET.
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Are you kidding me? 4 pounds over isn’t even close, has he been working out with Carano?
WOW, he was not even close! For Thiago, this is a number one contender match, since Dana said that with a win, he gets a title shot. With that said, he comes in FOUR pound heavy. That is unacceptable. Someone that can’t make weight does not even deserve to be in a main event, never mind fighting for #1 contender.
THe rest of Matt Hughes’s career is riding on this fight. With a win over Thiago and Serra, he gets a title shot. Matt is a company man that is not afraid to take risks. WHen Serra got hurt, he did not need to accept a fight with GSP. He could have waited for Serra to heal, and beat him to win the WW belt once more.
This fat Brazilian was just saying yesterday how great of condition he is in. Has he been training? It really isn’t fair to Hughes because if he knew he could leave on an extra 4 lbs, he wouldn’t of had to drain himself so much to make weight.
Not making wieght in your first ever main event is NOT a smart move. He should have to give Hughes HALF of his pay at a minimum. If fatty couldn’t make weight on semi-short notice because of the Liddell/Shogun situation, then he shouldn’t have accepted the bout to begin with.
“That is just AWFUL” - in my Bill Walton voice
“Terrible, just terrible” - in my Charles Barkely voice.
lol. in my voice.
LOL in a little girls voice
Totally agree VM! Recently he was talking about his last loss - he said he had to drop 25 lbs in a short period of time and that was one of the main reasons he lost. You would think he would learn a lesson.
Fucking disgrace!
This looks realkly bad for my boy Alves. Proffesionally its really bad. From the point of view of someone who is going to order the event tomorrow it doesnt matter too much because Hughes stepped up and took the fight neway. Not making excuses for Alves and I am not saying that I candone it but At least it wasnt a title fight because then it would go from 5 rounds to 3….That would really suck.
Main event status, and I win away from #1 contender status, Tiago should have made weight. This is bad because Dana hates fighters not making weight (and rightfully so). Hopefully after Tiago brutally Ko’s Hughes in highlite fashion, Dana will forget all about the weigh ins and chalk it up to a cursed event….I dunno though.
ViolentMike or any other mma betters please Help!
Can we still bet this fight?
Will the odds change drastically?
Hey John, I thought you were against steriod cheaters. Alves is a beast, but not a natural one. That’s why steriods are illegal, they give the fighters a HUGE advantage. What a coincidence, Alves can’t make weight, he is FREEKIN HUGE and WAY stronger than he has ever shown before.
looks like alves needs to stay out of the nightclubs, going by the countdown.
Can anyone spell STEROIDS??? This guy is carrying more water weight than a 9 month pregnant woman…TEST and he will fail….I mean it’s so obvious….Dana…kick his bloated cheating ass out for good…
I hope Hughes smashes him for this!
ran out of diuretics thiago?
Ya, that and he took WAY to much JUICE. Even with the best genetics, you don’t add muscle that fast naturally. They need to test that boy and I don’t mean his math skills.
This is shit, Alves doesn’t have 4 lbs of extra fat, thats 4 lbs of muscle and no % of money can cover that. This fight should be considered a NC and just have a non-scoring match. If the dumbass would have been running laps instead of running his mouth this wouldn’t have been a problem.
Hughes is a class act and I can’t wait for him to crush Alves!
Here is what Alves said after coming in 4lbs heavy… “Tomorrow night is gonna be a war,” said Alves, 174. “You’re gonna see the best ‘Pitbull’ ever and I’m gonna knock him out.”
No “I’m sorry” or “I didn’t cut weight right”
Unbelievable. The worst part is that his weight will help him, even though I now want Hughes to pound him.
The reality is that Dana knows what this means–fewer PPV buys because it further erodes a marginal card. You can count on Dana taking this into account when reviewing contracts.
AMEN AMEN!! Cant stand that mouth of his!! All talk.. Matt will destroy him and that mouth!!! Does not matter about 4lbs. probably all in his mouth anyhow!! If Matt was man enough to blow off the 4 pounds then none of us should be questioning why or if it affects either fighter.. bottom line whoever wins gets a title shot and don’t think Alves deserve to be a title holder with his ego and attitude!!
A bit of topic but doesn’t Matt Hughes look like Chael Sonnen on that picture.
What the fuc#? Alves is my guy. How do you miss by 4 pounds?
Not a big deal for Alves if he beats Hughes anyway…
If he loses…ouch !!! He is already getting flamed by MMA fans.
That being said, I still think Hughes wins via TKO in RD 2.
I have been saying with confidence that Alves will win this fight. Until I hear more I have no idea what to think or where his head is at.
Disrespecting the ufc!
Now i want Hughes to win!
4 pounds is a lot! When cutting weight a million things can happen. You can “float” 4 pounds in a few hours. ( That essentially means that you worry the weight off). You can just look at a cupcake and gain a pound. Hell, sometimes I weigh 4 pounds heavier after taking a leak. D*mn scales! But to get paid to fight, and have this be the biggest fight of your career, and miss by 4 pounds is inexcusable. Maybe he trained with Lutter?
Where are those diuretics when you need them?
U saw in the countdown show the guy like to party!
Warr Hughes
omg this was he’s chance to get to the next level and maybe get a title shot but he almost blew it! What an idiot
Lets watch the same guys that defended Carano bash Alves. There is no excuse for his. When it’s your job to make weight, you should make weight. Mania’s job is to post our comments, oh wait, bad example…jk lol
I agree Kevin. I think the more ridiculous thing is if you have trouble dropping, then why are you trying to be in that class anyway. MOVE UP!!
They should make guys that don’t make weight fight in the class above for a few fights.
Alves can’t blame it on a set of sweet D-cups.
haha. True, he can’t. Also, they are sweet.
I have never had to cut weight like some of these guys do for every fight, so I don’t understand completely how you can fail at making weight by such a large quantity. Are these guys lazy or are they just training too heavy for their weight class?
Sounds fishy to me! Maybe he thinks the heavier weight will help but how in the world do you miss by that much? It’s not just him but he has a whole team that works with him, how can they all be off as well?
You remember the last time someone missed weight against Hughes. He killed them quickly (Riggs). I would assume the same thing is going to happen. I promise you Huhges will take this as a slap in the face.
yeea thats because he was told to loose the weight so riggs went into the sauna or what ever and tried to loose the weight, which is taxing, why wasn’t ALVES put under the same pressure?!?!?!?
Great Question, and I DEMAND an answer!!!!
Probably because he’d already shed loads of weight that day. At the end of the day you can only lose so much weight in 1-2 days.
This is a massive mistake from Alves but i’m guessing the state commision would not sanction the fight knowing how much weight he’d already lost and still needed to lose.
Thats how it happens in UK boxing.
Well Riggs was probably closer to the weight limit and it was for a title shot, so it was worth it for him to try to cut that weight. Four friggin pounds is near impossible to lose in an hour or two, much less doing it in a healthy manner. And it’s not for a championship fight. As unprofessional as it is to miss weight that badly, it’s also unprofessional, and just plain asinine, of any ruling body to ask a competitor to do something unhealthy that could potentially cause him harm.
unless your name is “Jesse”, then you just go play some ping pong for an hour.
Or if your name is Gabe Ruediger you can lie on the floor, cry, and beg people to throw you back into the sauna.
I just thought of the reason why they forced Riggs to go to the sauna…
It was a TITLE FIGHT. If he didn’t make weight, the fight would not be for the title. The Alves fight obviously is not for a title.
Vince-
I agree vince. it is a huge mistake on thiago’s part. and you are correct Riggs was closer to making weight than alves. what i dont understand is why didnt they pressure him like they did to riggs. its unfair i think, riggs missed weight by 1 lb and was dropping all the way from accomodating himself at 205 lbs. he cut alot of weight that day it was very dangerous. im guessing thats why dana didnt get rid of him in the end. but as for alves he just got dont fighting not too long ago. and he took the fight short notice, knowingly of course. i wish they had forced him like they did to lutter and riggs and john fitch.
Losing 4 pounds in an hour or two is VERY EASY! losing 4 MORE pounds in an hour or two can be very hard…
I often weight myself before and after I run, just to keep track of my hydration. I run 6 times a week, and maybe once a week I lose less than 4 pounds, I usually lose 6ish, and most of my runs are only 45 minutes, and I dress very light.
Thats because the fight with Riggs was for the belt and there is no catch weights for a belt. I believe Alves did this with intent knowing that he would not be forced to cutt the weight. Not being a tittle fight and thus walks into the cage tomorrow not as depleted as Hughes giving him an edge. If you think it is not fare to make that judgement…what about his previous use of steroids and suspension after his fight with DeSouza.
Thiago Alves was suspended for using diuretics not steroids.
This to me is inexcusible. On this season of TUF a contested was 17 pounds overweight that first day and they cut it and made weight. That was one days notice!! Thiago had been at a training camp for this fight so there to me is no valid reason to miss weight. None. Now if a guy has one days notice and misses, I can forgive that, but not a guy who’s had a training camp to prepare.
I like Thiago as a fighter, but I’m beginning to not like Thiago the man. First he gets suspended for a banned Diuretic and now this. I’m starting to question his professionalism.
exactly!! if that lower class fighther could do it..no reason why he coudnt! lol sh*t if bobby southworth could do it..anyone can!!
cough “roids” cough………..
diuretics
You got that right. He just started his next cycle after Karo and then Dana phoned him up to fight Hughes on short notice. Seroid effects last for weeks after you stop taking them. It’s pretty hard to lose weight when your body is full of a substance that adds weight.
How much notice did he have for this fight? I thought it was like 5 weeks. that should be plenty of time to make weight.
he missed weight for a competitive advantage. He knows Matt Hughes isn’t going to not fight, and the UFC isn’t going to cancel the main event. All you guys that have been swinging from alves nuts now see how confident he really is! If you defended Gina for not making weight, and made every last excuse, start making them for this guy too, you can’t have it both ways. First and foremost these people are fighters, this is inexcusable and after Hughes demolishes him, not making weight will never cross his mind again!
If Thiago had giant breast implants that weighed 2 lbs each, then I’d excuse him… lol
Oh God!………….the visual is killing me.
halarious!
I agree, I think he did it as a competitive advantage. Everyone knows Hughes is a gamer…He took the Riggs fight when he didn’t make weight, took the GSP fight on short notice (From a planning perspective), and he knew that he wouldn’t let a main event get cancelled the day before.
I think it’s part of the strategy and the size of the miss is inexcusable.
WHY WASN’t ALVES aloud the 2 hours or whatever to shed 3 lbs?????!?!?!
This whole thing seems weird. Why the main event weight first?
Yeah, that is weird.
Considering it is huge news that Alves could not make weight, so Mania probably did that first considering thats probably the first thing he heard from his correspondant in Europe. The main event more than likely went last.
can you guys not read? mania said the feed was late and they only got to see the last 2 weights
All results are in. Alves would normally have an hour to lose the weight. Perhaps he was sucked dry and knew he wasn’t going to make it so he struck a deal.
It could have meant it came late starting from the beginning. Why are you always so negative (ask Gorandy)? God damn your an a-hole. Go have a drink.
I was there, they put matt on the spot… dana asked him if he was happy to fight at a catch weight. He agreed instantly, hughes just won himself another fan!
I respect Hughes so much more now. I also hope he kicks the shit out of this guy!
so then matt does not gain anything to fight at a catch weight then , and alves wasnts told after weighing in 4 lbs over to try to lose the weight???
WTF???
dana!!
we get it gorandy, you can’t believe it. how many different ways can you say the same thing?
bnf, wasn’t trying to be rude, sorry bro, just hate questions when answers are in the column, and I slept an hour last night after work!
All good bro. I was searching for a way for this fiasco not to be true. I have been saying all week Alves will win this fight. Now I am just like WTF!!!
GORANDY: He gains the extra $$$$$$ percentage when he woops fatman’s ass.
NICKJ, thanks for the info!
They weighed in last. The feed from Europe came in late, so they missed the beginning.
WOULDNt matt hughes want alves to shed weight to make him burn rather than fight at a catch weight with no guarantee of a purse reduction you guys say elite xc is bad wht the heck wasnt alves told to try and loose the 3 lbs???
because Hughes isn’t even worried. I don’t like Hughes, but he is a true warrior. He knows this douche bag isn’t even in his league, and knows he’ll be pounding on him within minutes! To compare this to elite just shows what a dumb fuck you are. They had 3 questionable stoppages, and as a matter of fact, I was all over the bitch when she didn’t make weight!
I couldn’t agree more with Kevin, except I like Hughes. I had him picked to win this fight mainly because I can’t stand Alves running him mouth. Hughes is going to knock Alves down to WEC after he pounds on him and still gives up 4 lbs. Alves really disrespected Hughes leading up to the fight and now this is icing on the cake.
The problem is most guys come in a few pounds heavy a week out and then cut the final pounds a day or two before the fight. Usually they are cutting atr least two pounds on the day of weigh ins. This is something that could easily happen if he swallowed water in the shower, cheated and drank when he was not supposed too…who knows…there are a million ways to miss your weight. Sometimes people’s bodies react differently after flights and maybe he was just trying to shed the weight and it would not come off…I have had that happen to me before.
How much water do you think we swallowed there Turk?
I swallow 4 pounds of water every time I take a shower. LOL
Missing weight for the biggest fight of your life means a few things)
1) You’re not ready for the big leagues
2) You are irresonsible
3) You do not train like you are supposed to
4) You do not care as much as you should
4) Matt Hughes is going to beat that ass!
I disagree. Nobody here knows the truth. Give Alves a chance to defend himself first…
We all know the truth, he didn’t make weight what more do you need to know. I think he’s scared to go middle-weight since this is not the first time he’s had “trouble” cutting weight.
“I think he’s scared to go middle-weight since this is not the first time he’s had “trouble” cutting weight.”
You can read minds?
Interesting…
I don’t know about scared, but he does bring up a valid point. If he was busted using diuretics before, and is 4 lbs. over for the biggest fight of his career, maybe he is just too heavy for this weight class.
I hope Hughes teaches him a lesson and whoops his ass
Lol!!! I just laughed my ass off. Thanks it’s been a boring day so far.
All I am saying is that there are many reasons a fighter does not lose weight. And you would be surprised how much water can effect your weight their Drew.
4 pounds is a half gallon. We are not talking about small amounts of water here…
Yes, I know water can really affect your weight… I did a 200 mile relay race with 5 friends last summer, my total distance ran was 42 miles in 6 stages in less than 24 hours. I went in weighing 165, I came out under 145; I couldn’t drink as fast as I was sweating. 1 day later I was over 160 again. The only way to gain and lose that fast is water.
I agree VM, but you missed one. You started your next steroid cycle thinking you had lots of time and then Dana calls you to fight on short notice so you can’t lose the 20lbs of mass you put on,because your body is full of juice.
That makes sense. He probably overestimated his ability to lose weight, busted his ass to lose it and could not. This would explain why they didn’t give him a chance to lose it.
Hey, for all we know the English weighed him in grams, and he made a math error converting it to pounds.
Exactly. Lets just wait and see…
We don’t use grams in England, pounds the same as Americans. Maybe your General Knowledge is as good as our math?
I always thought you guys use the term stone, as in someone weighs 8.8 stone?
We do use stone, there is 14 pounds to a stone. We don’t do decimal points with stones, thats metric.
Therefore 8.5 stone would be 8 stone 7 lb
Good job Travis Lutter.
damn that’s almost as much as gina.
i know this is totally off topic.. but does ANYONE KNOW that Affliction will be in a Cage or in a Ring.??? that being said WAR HUGHES!!!… his last loss was to GSP 2nd best P4P fighter in the world… and his loss before that was way back to BJ PEnn another MMA Legend…
ring, where you been? gives fedor the edge
heard it was the ring, someone correct me if i’m wrong.
Crap. I am not a huge fan of mma in rings. Too many times stopping to reset the fighters.
I heard it was the RIng too.. but can anyone confirm that if it is or not…
This is great news. Alves just blew his chances. First he talks about how Karo is tougher than Hughes which leads me to believe he is grossly under training for Hughes. Then this weight issue comes in which solidifies my thoughts. He is going to be tired from trying to cut and it’ll affect him. That was Riggs problem, he we gassed during the fight with Hughes. Thiago is not showing the dicipline it takes to be a champ. He