UFC 85: “Bedlam” is scheduled to air LIVE from the O2 Arena in London, England, on pay-per-view (PPV) at 3 p.m. ET TODAY (Saturday, June 7). It will re-air at 10 p.m. ET on PPV later this evening for all those who don’t care for some mid-afternoon mixed martial arts action.
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Without further delay, see below for the latest UFC 85 results. (Note: This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest detailed round-by-round action!)
UFC 85 QUICK RESULTS:
Thiago Alves defeats Matt Hughes via TKO (Strikes) Round 2
Micheal Bisping defeats Jason Day via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Mike Swick defeats Marcus Davis via Unanimous Decision
Thales Leites defeats Nate Marquardt via Split Decision
Frabrico Werdum defeats Brandon Vera via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
Martin Kampmann defeats Jorge Rivera via submission (guillotine choke) in round one
Matt Wiman defeats Thiago Tavares via knockout in round two
Kevin Burns defeats Roan Carneiro via submission in round two
Luis Arthur Cane defeats Jason Lambert via technical knockout (strikes) in round one
Paul Taylor defeats Jess Liaudin via split decision
Antoni Hardonk defeats Eddie Sanchez via technical knockout (strikes) in round two
UFC 85 BLOW-BY-BLOW LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY:
DrubySunshine here once again for some afternoon MMA action. Theres a bunch of great fights that all have serious meaning in each weight classes championship chase. So sit back and enjoy Maniacs this is gunna be a good one.
Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves (170-pound limit)
Round one: Hughes with a shot and Alves scrambles away. Alves goes for a leg kick and Hughes shoots. Now both fighters clinched up against the fence and Hughes pulls guard. Big punches from Alves. Now Hughes back to his feet. HUGE knee to the body of Hughes and Hughes is bleeding already. Hughes now gets a take down and pulls side control. Hughes just holding Alves down. Thiago now gets full guard. Hughes holds the double and doesnt want to let him up. Hughes with some body shots. Alves with some soft punches from the bottom. The action has slowed to a crawl. Alves looking for elbows. Theres a spattering of boo’s for the slow pace. Hughes looking to pass. Alves now working his way to the feet but Hughes is holding a single. Alves scrambles out and Hughes shoots but Alves gets on top. Alves with a HUGE right to the face. Thats the bell. It was a close one but id give it to Alves.
Round two: Alves doesnt look tired. BIG knee from Alves and Hughes is bleeding once again. Alves on top and Hughes briefly goes for a triangle. Hughes is gushing blood from his left eye. Hughes shoots and Alves sprawls. Alves lands a flying kneed and finishes it with a HUGE right!!! Hughes is out cold!!! Alves looks impressive. It appears Hughes hurt his knee badly.
Round three:
Final result: Thiago Alves defeats Matt Hughes via TKO (Strikes) Round 2
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Michael Bisping vs. Jason Day (185-pound limit)
Round one: Leg kick from Day. Bisping with a left. Straight jab from Bisping. Leg kick from Day. Both fighters exchange rights. Both fighters clinched against the fence. Knee from Bisping. Bisping with a take down. Now hes posturing up and raining some blows! He lands a HUGE right left. Another HUGE right from Bisping. Bisping with a good left. Now side control for the count. Bisping with a left and a knee and now Bisping picks up Day and slams him to the mat. Bisping is full mount now!!! He lets it go. Day looks overwhelmed. Bisping keeps dropping a steady dose of punches. Bisping is dropping some bombs! Thats it the ref stops it. Bisping dominates.
Round two:
Round three:
Final result: Micheal Bisping defeats Jason Day via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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Mike Swick vs. Marcus Davis (170-pound limit)
Round one: Head kick by Swick. Davis with a right and inside leg kick. Head kick by Swick. Inside leg kick by Swick, flying knee by Swick but Davis catches a uppercut. Both fighters clinched. Great take down by Davis. Now they scramble and Swick ends up on top. Davis with half guard. Davis looking to pass. Butterfly guard by Davis. Now Davis gets full mount. Swick trying to improve position and the crowd is booing with the lack of action. Swick peppering in some punches. Left from Swick. Swick keeping busy. Hes got Davis bleeding from the bridge of his nose. Thats the bell. Swick dominated that round on the ground.
Round two: HUGE left by Davis! Head kick from Swick followed by another and a nice knee by Swick. Swick now on top in Davis’s full guard. Davis with elbows from the bottom. Nice left from Swick. Swick looking to pass to half guard. Swick passes to side control!!! Swick now looking to pass to full mount. Davis going for a Kimura! Swick with some knees to the sternum. Elbows to the body from Swick trying to work his way out of the kimura attempt. Swick breaks free. Davis with a nice left from the scramble and their back to the feet. Swick with a clinch and knee. Knee to the body from Swick. Great one two combo by Davis. Knee to the body by Swick. Davis with some dirty boxing and nice left right from Davis. Knee by Swick to the head. Nice uppercut by Davis and then gets the take down. Swick goes for a triangle. Swick with a beautiful take down and slams Davis to the mat. Swick now lands in side control. Thats the bell. Great round it could go either way but id lean toward Swick for his take downs.
Round three: Jab from Swick and a nice knee by Swick. Swick using his reach. Left hook from Swick and Davis lands a combo. Nice knee from Swick. Nice right from Davis drives Swick into the fence and the clinch. Knee to the body from Swick. Davis with a wild left. Swick with a knee. Body shot by Davis. Clinched up against the fence, Swick looks in control. Swick with some knees to the body. Davis with a sweep and take down but Swick right back to the feet. Swick with some knees to the body. 1 point deducted from Swick for grabbing the fence. Swick with a take down and Davis is bleed bad. Hes gushing blood and Swick is using some vicious ground and pound. Davis is bloodied and battered. Swick raining down punches. Swick and Davis go crazy throwing bombs. Davis’s eye is gashed open BAD. Swick looked impressive in this fight and he took the win ending Davis’s win streak.
Final result: Mike Swick defeats Marcus Davis via Unanimous Decision
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Nate Marquardt vs. Thales Leites (185-pound limit)
Round one: Leites with a wide stance hes looking to shoot. Superman punch form Thales. Nate charges forward. Thales with a great right and Marquardt counters with one of his own. HUGE right by Leites and Nate gets dropped!!! Nate holding on for dear life. Thales is in full mount! Nate trys rolling over. Nate fights his way back to Leites half guard. Nate still holding on. He seems to have weathered the storm for now. Nate back to his feet, he charges in looking for a right hook. Leites swings wildly. Nate with a hard right to the body and hook to the face. Leites now clinches him up against the fence. Leites with a spinning back kick. Two huge lefts from Nate and a HUGE right uppercut!!! Then a knee!! Leites is wobbly on his feet. Nate catches another right. Inside leg kick by Marquardt! Thats the bell! This was an action packed round I cant call it either way it was too close.
Round two: Body shot and right hook from Nate to open the round. Letites now charges forward. Their in the clinch and Nate delivering some vicious knees. Left right combo from Nate and now he gets a great take down!!! Nate then lands a monstrous knee!! However the knee was illegal and Leites says he wants to continue to fight. Leites has 5 minutes to recover. The doctor comes in to check Leites and like a warrior he has chosen to continue. Nate looses a pt. Nate charges in a lands a glancing right. Nate with a take down and dropping punches. Herb Dean warns Nate of punches to the back of the head. Nate lands a HUGE bomb!! Leites nose is gushing blood. His lips is also bleeding. Nate lands some serious elbows. Nate comes in a drops a HUGE right! Nate using some brutal hammer fists. Leites sounds like hes choking on his own blood. Leites looking for rubber guard. The ref stands them up. Leites nose looks broken. Nate charges in and Leites takes him down and mounts him!! Leites to side control and thats the round. WOW. What a great round but it should be a 9-9 round.
Round three: Body shot from Nate. Knee from Leites, Nate gets a take down. Leites looking for a triangle. Nate escapes. Nate now looses another pt for a punch to the back of the head. Dean deducts another point. Leites with a right. Nice right from Nate. Nice right from Leites. Nate needs to win this convincingly. Nate with a take down. Full guard, by Leites. Nate with some vicious punches. Leites with elbows. Elbow from Marquardt. HUGE elbow from Nate. Leites is exhausted. Nate keeping busy. Leites trying to stand up Nate sprawling. Nate picks him up with a HUGE SLAM!!! WOW. Thats the bell, this was an outstanding fight. Nate literally landed a pile driver. This was one of the best fights of the year.
Final result: Thales Leites defeats Nate Marquardt via Split Decision
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Brandon Vera vs. Fabricio Werdum (265-pound limit)
Round one: Inside leg kick by Vera. Both fighters clinch. Vera with right hook. Clinched up against the fence. Werdum reverses position. Knee to the mid section from Vera. Vera reverses position. Big left from Werdum! Werdums standup is looking solid. HUGE right from Werdum. Vera ties him up in a clinch. Werdum ducks under and shoots for the double and gets a nice take down. Werdum trying to pass guard. Werdum with some soft hammer fists trying to keep busy. Werdum with a elbow. Vera scrambles to his feet and lands a big knee. Inside leg kick from Werdum. Vera lands a glancing left that shocks Werdum and now Vera lands a great elbow. Both fighters clinch. Werdum with a great sweep and a take down, Vera pulls guard. Werdum with a solid right. Werdum working to pass. Full mount from Werdum and hes dropping bombs. Thats it the ref stops the fight. It could be an early stoppage but Vera did not defend himself once.
Final result: Fabrico Werdum defeats Brandon Vera via TKO (Strikes) Round 1
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This actualy turned out to be a decent card. Still don’t know about watching it in the early afternoon though. A little too early to start drinking for me. Go Matt Hughes!!
A little too early to start drinking?
I love the UFC, but…you pretty much needed to be drunk to enjoy the card. Betweeen the dissapointing stoppage w/B Vera and the second point taken from N. Marquardt….what a bore!!! The Bisping fight wasn’t good enough to be on Spike and Matt Hughes looks to be on his way out! I will say the undercard fights after the Main Event were better than most of the main action!!
Now I know why this wasn’t free on Spike…..Between the Elite XC/CBS and this poor UFC Card….the average guy would never buy another PPV again!!
Too early for drinking? How DARE you blaspheme
LOL
This card is on my birthday, and considering I’ve been sober 2 1/2 years (I know, I’m a quitter), I guess this card will be my birthday gift. I like Bisping and Vera, and always look for an opportunity to see Hughes get beat (even though it happens rarely).
On a side note, I really hope that after Kimbo’s fight this sat, they put him against a top 50 opponent. I promise if he fights Mike Tyson, Gannon or Ken Shamrock, I will cancel my showtime subscription, and not watch another elite show (except Nick Diaz. Even if he fought Ricco Rodriguez, I’d respect him more. I give him credit for training, being humble and soft spoken, but I would have a chance at beating the guys he’s fighting.
Have a Happy birthday Kevin. Congratulations on remaining sober.
thanks, after 13 years of abusing my body, it was about time to smarten up!!
Kevin happy Birthday, U know thats my B-day Too! I will be turning 26
31 here my friend, and feeling it. wiped out at the skate park wed, and can barely move! thank god for my vicodin script
Right on Kevin, still rockin’ it at the Skate Parks. Props, I hope I’m still skating when I’m 40 dude
Happy B-day
Hey Kevin and John, hope you had a great birthday…cheers.
Good luck w/ that Vicodin scrip….in almost 18 years I’ve seen countless people in sobriety led to destruction w/ a few painkillers…anyway……
WAR Hughes, and if he loses he is done, except for a couple more paydays….Vera may be shut up w/ another loss to a real heavyweight…. and I really don’t have anything against The count, but I really wanted to see him against Leben, he will get past Day and then I look forward to him fighting someone legit, but all these middleweights have to look forward to is The Spider, sucks to be them…….I’m a little sick as I’d like to see Kimbo fight Shamrock, Ken would finally get a win a good paycheck from the sport he helped to found, would not begrudge him gettin paid
Congrats, Kevin on the B-day and definately for remaining sober…that’s a tough thing to accomplish - you da man!
Good job on the sobriety and happy birthday. However, after reading your comments on Vicodin multiple times I have my concerns you are just picking a different poison.
John, Happy birthday to you as well.
Wish it the results could have turned out better for you. Congrats on the sobriety!
ur a clown! whats so great about this card it sucks!! matt hughes as a main event ! whos been beaten by GSP!! ha ha what ajoke. hasbeen for sure. feel sorry for uk fans. all bums fighting on here
Good point, he’s been beaten by GSP, HASBEEN!! I think your name says it all, which is nothing
So by your logic BJ Penn shouldn’t be a main event? He has been Beaten by Hughes and GSP.
You’re a complete idiot.
Jason Day is gonna take out the Count today.
indeed!It’s Doomsday!!
Who is going to take out who???? lol
The undercard really helped it out alot.
It’s never too early to start drinking. We used to work mid-shifts and start catching a buzz at 7 AM. Now that is a weird sensation. A “good morning world, passed out by 3 PM” day.
I’m still not sure if I’m going to get this event. Probably because of the time difference.
I couldn’t agree more, don’t buy this fight if you think it blows, Dana is just trying to sell some Lemonade… I’m looking forward to Swick Vs. Davis, I think it could be a great fight. I still can’t believe Alves is headlining but what can you do
i agree mania! it not like ufc had this card in mind when they firts came up with it!! this card was effing amazing when it started up. but Dana and zuffa can not control the element of fighter life’s and injuries..to be honest they did a great job in saving the card! it would have been a disaster to cancel it. non the less it will be a sell out crowed. you ppl shame me as mma fans…the britsh dont care…they just love fights. The british fans are always there for mma. and im not even british and i hate brits! but they are stting the example here.
yo geazer u talk shit!! im british and every brit fan i know is comaplainignand wants their money back. its a farce!! origianlly they got chucl lidellvs sogon as the attraction. but carde still sucked. if we had ufc 84 man it wld of been a treat. wandalei,tito,bj penn,sherk,jardine,silva it was awesome. whos in ufc85? matt hughes a has been who been beat by GSP wtice give me a break. ur insulting brits intelligence
Sorry dude but nobody cares what the Brit fans want. Its obvious that you don’t know a good card when you have it. I wouldn’t mind having this fight here in America where I might be able to go view it. Your disrespecting a legend who got beat by the number one P4P guy in the sport get a grip dude. You must be new to the sport so people will cut you some slack but you shouldn’t be speaking on behalf of the British people, your making them looking bad
Hey are you a pirate or something because that is coolest attempt at the english language I have ever seen
Hahaha…”pirate” Hahahahahaha
im a brit and im not complaining iv got my tickets and looking forward to it come on bisping and hughes
fabricio werdum? brandon vera? nate marquardt? bisping? thales leites? mike swick? marcus davis? great main card names man! ye hughes main card sucked and he is a has been and alves finished him but are you seriously trying to tell me shogun vs liddell is a legit fight? please shogun has been terrible at training he was a mere shadow of himself against forest and his injurys will only make it harder for him to get back on top form! liddell is also a has been! he has been dominent in the past but his days are numbered! he might beat rashad evans but he wont beat the top guys at 205 anymore
You make no sense at all!!! Shogun has one bad fight(Forrest) and now he is done? Chuck is one of the biggest names in the sport and just won a war with the Ax Murder who killed Jardine!!!! Bro wake up.
I hope matt wiman gets KTFO
can’t stand that guy
Davis Vs Swick has fight of the night written all over it.
I totally agree with you Mania. If you call yourself a fan of MMA I don’t know how you don’t want to see this card.
RiverHorror: I am on the west coast so it starts a 12 here. DVR and still start it at around 3. The perfect time to start drinking!
I hear what your saying but I bought the Rashad/Bisping fight thinking I would miss something and just threw $54.99 away. The time difference is whats killing it for me.
Your right, that card wasn’t that great, but on the other hand everyone said the BJ/Stevenson card would suck and I think there were like 7 ko’s and 8 fights televised.
True, True…….
i was at Bisping/Evans i liked that event i dont know y people hate it. the only thing im mad about is that Bisping actually won that fight according to lots of viewers and websites. all those takedowns lasted 1 second cause he got right up. i read that they gave Evans the win because they dont want Bisping to ever get a win in America again or something like that
I don’t know about you guys but I think Nate Marquardt vs. Thales Leites is going to be one of the better fights on the card. Most of the fights we will get to see are pretty good, which is what I would rather see than just one or two good fights and the rest are bores.
so many doubting this line-up. i bet this is one of the better all-around ufc’s this year.
This is a great card!!!! There’s not one weak matchup on it. Hughes will either get knocked out or GnP Thiago. I can’t wait.
lol no, the best ppvthis yaer so far is ill will
I don’t think its a plain “if you don’t like it, don’t buy it” argument to be made here. MMA fans constantly have to watch out what they can get for their buck and in times of WEC with Faber-Pulver, DREAM4 and Affliction card coming up, its wise to consider spending a limited budget on cards that sound promising.
After the rather weak card in ireland and this card I really hope the UFC will visit europe the next time with a championship fight again. Watching the event on TV is fine, but I’d rather go watch it live in an arena again, as - I am sure - most british/european fans would like to.
It’s not like the UFC didn’t try.
The main event — ideally — was going to be St. Pierre vs. Fitch. Then Henderson vs. Franklin. And I’m sure Anderson Silva was considered … but his only real challenger at this point is Yushin Okami, who is recovering from a broken hand.
So to get Hughes vs. Alves is not that bad when you put it into perspective, in addition to the other solid main card bouts.
UFC 85 was a victim of circumstance. And all things considered this main card turned out solid.
Agreed about the original card, but still: people bought the tickets with St.Pierre or maybe Franklin in mind. Some friends of mine who planned on going sold their tickets on ebay with losses and I can also understand their frustration.
You are right about it being solid - in my opinion due to the Swick-Davis and Vera-Werdum fights - but then again its a relative term considering the other cards we got upcoming.
Thats why it always says “card subject to change”. its the price you pay buynig tickets so early before the event. either you wait until the card is close and risk not getting tickets, or you buy them early and risk not seeing the matches you want due to various circumstances.
I wonder how Matt Hughes is gonna win? Is he gonna win by decision or tko? I’ll go with a unanimous decision victory with all three judges scoring it 30-27 in favor of Hughes.
Why couldn’t he win by submission?
he lost
While there are some tomato can worthy opponents on this card, I’d look to Marquardt/Leites or Swick/Davis as a great fight, if not great marketing. Neither will increase ppv buys to the casual observer or armchair quarterback. We’ll leave that up to elite xc as they pull out all the stops by opening the show with Busta (????? insert snide remark). That said, I’ll take Bisping/Day for $1000, alex. Us good ‘ole canadian boys know a wee bit more about “dooms” day. Perhaps it’s a homer bet, but I’ll go with day at +260. Call it a hunch… hehehe. Begin your ridicule now gentlemen…
WOOPS.
mate you could not be any further from being correct as far as Bisping/Day, Bisping completely gave him a lesson in MMA overpowering him in every aspect of fighting.Like i have heard from one or two others said Bisping could have finished this earlier but chose to give him more punishment rather than finishing him with a choke or a couple of other holds he could of put him in.Anyway great fight from Bisping ,he is looking very menacing.
Great bill I think. Hughes vs Alves COULD be a classic.
Vera is one of my fave fighters and Werdum is no joke despite his Arlovski fight.
Marquardt vs Leites could be a cracker.
Swick vs Davis another good fight maybe
Sanchez vs Hardonk is a good match up shame it’s not on the main bill.
What happened to this being a Spike TV Event? After Liddle n Shogun got injured didnt they say it was going to be Free??
Damn, oh well.
im sick of hearing this should be on spike
Well you don’t hear anything, you read it so you don’t have to read it if you don’t want. But honestly with all of the switches they’ve had this should have been free on spike. Not saying that it isn’t PPV worthy but a nice treat for the hardcore fans would be nice. Not to mention making it free on Spike a week after the XC promotion would give them better ratings. Its a business move gone wrong but I’ll still be viewing this matchup
I’m not going to get this one… will read about it here
Hey Mania the brandon vera video is up at UFC.com
Why is it “crying” to say that a card sucks when it so obviously does?
On paper people may say it sucks because it lacks supposedly ‘big fights’ but………
I was at Nations Collide in Manchester last year and the main card looked very good. When infact 3 of the 5 main fights were shite. (congo/silva, arlovski/werdum, machida/heath). The undercard was, on paper, going to be borin but all 5 fights were very entertaining. Dont write this card off as you could be suprised.
styles make fights!!! i feel there is some good match ups on this card. should be good to see if marcus davis can actually knock someone out like he says he can!!!!
Happy Birthday Kevin! “I read/finish post’s!!!” That was my KenFlo hehehe!
I can’t remember to well but did mania say a while back that you could watch on setanasports.com for free? And/or is it on setant sports the channel for free over here in UK? Coz i remember the deal with setana was suppose to start with ufc 86 right? Unless im just confused lol but any clarifaction would be nice, suppose i could just watch it on sopcast if its not free in uk.
Quick update:
http://dnevnik.hr/sport/ostali_sportovi/cro-cop-zbog-ozljede-odgodio-borbu.html
CroCop has cancelled the grappling match due to a light injury. He could have competed, but to him getting fully recovered for the 21st of july was more important when he will fight Jerome LeBanner.
Too bad, I thought it could be funny, but MMA > pure-grappling in this case, so as long as he has no excuse for a poor performance against LeBanner I am cool with it. The grappling match was definetly not what urged me to buy DREAM 4 in the first place anyway.
Good! cro cop needs to stick to MMA and forget about grappling. He already took too many blows to his name recently.
I hate not seeing the undercard!!!!! why can’t dana allow it! make sure there is a body bag for day tonight as Bisping will kill him!
anybody from scotland
or going to ufc 85
I’m from Scotland but not lucky enough to have been at a UFC event.
If the Birmingham rumour is true in October, I might very well be there. My in-laws stay there
My new neighbor just got DSL and has a pretty sweet wirelss connection. Sitting on my porch with the laptop, I get a PERFECT signal. ANd to think that I was just about to call Comcast and add internet because the wife signed up to sell avon.
I wonder when Martin Kampann is fighting. THat’s the only reason I risked ruining results of prelim matches that might be shown later during the PPV…
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEVIN AND JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, just saw that too. Let me chime in and second the birthday congratulations!
Your new neighbor just got d*ck sucking lips? lol. Sorry that’s what DSL meant when I was younger, you kids think it has something to do with computers (I’m 38 by the way).
Thanks everyone. It was a great card. John-Stradamus strikes again.
I lost $500 on Marcus Davis and I still managed to win $275 with my wagering pin point percision.
I bet on:
Leites
Werdum
Marcus Davis
Bisping
Alves
4 out of 5, not bad at all.
Seriously my picks will have to be on sale from here on out because I am just getting scary good at predicting these fights.
VM: Sorry your parlays fell through cause of Hughes…I am getting sick of telling you that alves is the real deal, yet you still ignore him…Get wit it my friend!
you put 500 on davis? you idiot
Lets be honest though, did Leites really win? I don’t think so and I would bet MOST would agree. You picked Werdum to win, but they NEVER got a chance to see who is better. That was BY FAR the worst stoppage in history. Vera was UNTOUCHED. John ,your other picks were good, but these 2 were as much luck as Werdume and Leites victories were luck that the refs were SNIFFING GLUE. Oh ya , Happy Birthday John and Kevin as well.
Gord, quit hatin on the Brazilians! They’re taking over the UFC and eventually the WORLD! As far as Leites goes, he’s not the one who used illegal moves in the fight. That’s ultimately what made the difference.
Thanks to everyone!
As for Leites and Werdum bets….Hey I bet a nice amount of money on both fighters, and I will take the win anyway I can.
IMO, Leites won that Fight. Here me out. It was a very close fight. Because the fight was so close, we have to take into consideration that BIG ILLEGAL Knee. Like Rogan said, weather Leites could continue or not, he would never recover from that knee 100%, so I think THales deserved to win. I will admit that the elbow to the head was not illegal.
As for Werdum…..Did he TKO Vera? NO, but he mounted him and I would say that about 90% of the time a fighter mounts another fighter is usually OVER! In this case, with so little time left in the round, the fight should have not been stopped.
What the hell though, I lost $500 on Davis, I wil take all the wins I can, any way that I could!
John-stradamus just tells you who to bet on, my job isnt to tell you if the decision was fair….U guys asked for the winners, and I delivered 4 out of 5 as USUAL!
Stop Doubting my boy Thiago!
Thanks to everyone!
As for Leites and Werdum bets….Hey I bet a nice amount of money on both fighters, and I will take the win anyway I can.
IMO, Leites won that Fight. Here me out. It was a very close fight. Because the fight was so close, we have to take into consideration that BIG ILLEGAL Knee. Like Rogan said, weather Leites could continue or not, he would never recover from that knee 100%, so I think THales deserved to win. I will admit that the elbow to the head was not illegal.
As for Werdum…..Did he TKO Vera? NO, but he mounted him and I would say that about 90% of the time a fighter mounts another fighter is usually OVER! In this case, with so little time left in the round, the fight should have not been stopped.
What the hell though, I lost $500 on Davis, I wil take all the wins I can, any way that I could!
John-stradamus just tells you who to bet on, my job isnt to tell you if the decision was fair….U guys asked for the winners, and I delivered 4 out of 5 as USUAL!
Stop Doubting my boy Thiago!
Cane is a bad dude. Period.
HAPPY B-DAY JOHN AND KRAZY KEVIN, you young pups.
HERE WE GO!!!
I predict Werdum, Swick, Leites, Bisping and Alves, by whatever means necessary!
This is the first time I’m watching and commenting in the same time LOL.
damn Linx you aere on fire! Good stuff!
I bet on:
Leites
Werdum
Alves
Bisping
Marcus Davis (Looser)
Bisping by decision.
Hughes TKO round 3.
I bet one thing Dana didn’t want on top of everything else was a premature stoppage. Kinda funny.
Dan Mirgliotti is a bad ref. Ever since the CBS bs I can’t take him seriously. BTW that was an early stoppage.
werdum did not deserve that, he only got hate from the crowd and he did his job. vera is a soared loser, and dan magliota controversial as always.
vera’s soooooooo overrated!!! i love it! werdum’s been fighting top competition longer than vera’s even been fighting
The stoppage was waaaaaayyyy too early! dumb ass!
What? did they fight? I must have missed it. The PARTIAL fight I saw was stopped by a INCOMPETENT ref,for NO REASON. I hope you’re not drawing that conclusion from this bullshit, because it proved nothing,except the UFC needs better refs.
blah blah blah ‘the truth hurts’ yeah whatever i never was sold on vera
WTF was up with that stupid Stoppage??? Completely Bogus! That ref can suck my balls
the ref is such a douchbag. so many fights have the potential to be great, only to be stopped by a loser ref
suprised by the werdum/vera fights outcome. vera needs to move to lhw. werdum was just to strong for him. a 245lbs werdum compared to a soft 225 lbs for vera made all the difference. werdum had him in the full mount and vera wasnt trying to get out. werdum is for real and is still relativly young.with wins over g.g. and vera back to back he could probably get the winner of mir/nog, but thats so far from now he might fight again. but who could he fight? the winner of herring/lesnar or maybee kongo, i dont know.
joe murgliotta or whatever his name is was the referre who let thompson rain down elbows on Kimbo for 1 minute and now he stops the fight with 15 seconds left in the fight?? completely bogus… then he says Kimbo was saying he is ok and that was what Vera was doing…Fuc!@# referee!
The only weight that had an effect on this fight, was the weight of that SACK OF SHIT that calls himself a ref. I am surprised that anyone could be so deviated from reality, to actually think Werdum legitimately won that fight.
War Werdum! I called it. My man is taking it all the way to Nog once again.
When, I never once heard you say that the fight would be WRONGFULLY stopped. When did you call “Werdum by Refs INCOMPETENCE in the 1st”?
Werdum would submit Heath Herring in a heartbeat (remember his terrible takedown defense, and his track record against other submission specialists. Lesnar would be more of a challenge; that’s like a Bob Sapp vs. Minotauro sort of fight. I’d watch it. I view Brock Lesnar with a decent amount of respect so I don’t think that constitutes a freak-show bout of the nature that Bob is accustomed to. Kongo IMO doesn’t deserve a shot at Werdum. Give Vera to Kongo and Werdum to Lesnar and that’s a solid event.
agreed!
what an risk lesnar get submitted again?
that wont happen! lesnar will beat up on herring and werdum wont be on the card
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sopcast doesn’t work on macs, and I wasted the non refundable fee a year ago
that last slam by nate was awesome! I was mad at him for the illegal knee, but I give respect for that slam alone!
damn vera damn
Vera got crewed! Bullshit call to stop fight with less than 30 seconds left in first… That referee should be canned!
ye but ya forget one of the best grapplers in the world has him mounted with 20 second left to punnish him! probably would have hurt him bad before the end of the round
I think there was 10 seconds left and by the looks of things, NO Werdum wouldn’t have hurt him AT ALL. Did you miss the slow motion replay? Vera BLOCKED ALL of those shots and suffered NO damage. It was plain and simple, a BOGUS stoppage and that ref should be canned and he shouldn’t even get a cheque for that BS. All Werdum was doing ,was wasting energy. Werdum was the one who got rocked in that SHORT fight, not Vera. Nothing was decided, we need a rematch.
Did you have money on Vera or are you carrying his love child in your womb?
nate can’t touch the spider, please…
that fight was a war. if not for the point deduction, marqurdt might have won. rhis one def calls for a rematch.
I agree, if it wasn’t for the knee and elbow he would have won the fight (although I thought the elbow was legit).
The elbow was DEFINITLY legit and this is another example of pathetic refereeing. Nate won that fight,end of story. Some fights are debatable, this one wasn’t even close to debatable. Is there a glue factory close by to the M.E.N arena, where as the fumes effect the refs and judges perceptions. First Bisping- Hammill and now these 2 fights. We need Big John back.
the 1st two fights on the ppv here in the states STUNK!!!
BADBADBAD REFEREEING!!!!
WOW!!!!
THIS IS BAD
Surprising that vera lost via tko. maybe he should consider LHW sooner rather than later. Hopefully I’ll actually get to see the fight tomorrow morning.
oe murgliotta or whatever his name is was the referre who let thompson rain down elbows on Kimbo for 1 minute and now he stops the fight with 15 seconds left in the fight?? completely bogus… then he says Kimbo was saying he is ok and that was what Vera was doing…Retarded referee!
The second fight wow wow Nate won but fuck when you get in the hole your in the hole. REMATCH REMATCH
i don’t see anything special with vera… filipino sucks!!! Nog vs Werdum!!!
scroll halfway down and watch the fights live here:
http://channelsurfing.net/
woooo…thanks bro links works and im watching it live
holy crap. NICE!
OMG thank you!!!
Will!! thanks bro…got this link saved in my favorites..
Will, you are the man! Thanks…
Mike ‘The Windmill’ Swick just swinging with no particular aim at the end was kind of amusing. ‘Lets just look busy even though I don’t actually know where his head is.’
no problem, hope the link lasts awhile so we may want to just keep it to ourselves
“That is an energetic and young man” ? WTF Joe Rogan? I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit over that description of Bisping by Rogan.
Fucking Davis. Punk ass couldn’t beat that scarecrow Swick. Cost me some cash. Oh well, go Day and Alves.
now alves just needs to do his job and I’ll get all of my predictions correct!
I should start betting, anyone know if I can bet from Brazil?
you did a good job with your picks, but the minute you start betting real money, it might turn on you. at least thats the way it always works with me. i always pick them right in my head but as soon as i bet money they lose. ha!
LOL, I hear you, I was just joking really, I’m not the betting type :p
Guess we won’t see Jason Day blogging here soon anymore.
Nice fetal position Doomsday!
Who do you guys think won the Marquardt fight? Only know what im reading here and it sounds like he sould of won even minus the 2 points?
I’m a fan of Tiago, but yea - Marquardt should have won, I had it 30-27, so with the deduction it should have been unanimously 28-27.
I had Tiago win the first with the knock own (that he should have finished) and nate winning the next 2.
*down*
Good job Tiago for carrying on the fight after eating that Knee. He was all over the place for a while.
Thales, not Tiago. But we know what you’re saying. I also think Leites won the first round due to the clear knockdown. He got rocked also but never went down so I think that round is still his. Too bad Herb called the point deduction for the elbow but I think he called it ‘cuz Marquardt put himself in that position due to the previous foul. Questionable but IMO understandable. Great fight regardless.
So tell me how nate wins the first round again?
I think Nate srewed Herb Deans wife, that’s what I think.
Screwed
thanks for the link man I think everyone owes you a beer. Thanks bro
WOW Bisping looked very sharp! Did it strike anyone as odd that through all the EliteXC controversy…Dan Miragliotta is still reffing in the UFC? I wonder how the refs are picked…
I don’t know, but I’m sure they have to be DEAF and BLIND, because Miragliotta couldn’t see that Vera WASN’T in any trouble and he couldn’t hear Vera screaming “I’m OK”, “I’M OK”.
LOL @ the knockout of Eddie Sanchez! I owe Antoni Hardonk a case of beer next time I see him. Man … fat Eddie went down like a cheap hooker.
totally agree! eddie sanchez should be cut! he is a joke.
YEEEEEEEEEH BISPING WON!!! WHAT NOW YOU HATERZ
england all the way mutha F*ERS
TWATS!!!
jason … WHO???
BISPING!! BISPING!! BISPING!! BISPING!! LO,
‘LOL’ even
awww thats sucks im pissed off i was expecting a war to happen with bisbing and day, what the hell damn u count for your bombs, good job though for count ending it quick
I hope Alves knocks Hughes the fsck out for his entrance music alone … how annoying.
Is he still using A Country Boy Can Survive by Hank Jr.?
Aye, thats the one - and Chuck was singing along or lipsynching it.
Matt sure took the weight thing as a slap in the face and kicked some *ss huh . . . And condom depot gets another win.
OMG..Thiago’s knee to Hughes’ face!!! BRUTAL!!!!!!!
THIAGO looked MONSTEROUSLY HUGEEE!!!
Man…if he made weight, I dont even see how Thiago could lose this fight…Hughes completely out worked…
Alves looks juiced to me.
Thiago gets another lucky win. GSP will beat him if Thiago makes weight for a title fight.
I wouldnt call that lucky???? But yes, GSP would eat him alive.
I called it lucky like his Karo win. I’m saying its a lucky win over Hughes cuz he blew up out his knee.
you think that hughes’s knee was the reason for the loss? you’re crazy
Theres no proof his knee is blown, he fell on it awkwardly, so now its ruined, Matt was still out 10 seconds after it was stopped. And Karo, ehhh, cant argue with a hater, and im not bias, i dont care for any of the 3, couldnt matter to me less, just calling a spade a spade.
No, the reason he lost was he was TKO. I’m just saying he might have had a chance to get up had his leg not bent a way it’s not normally supposed to bend. Thats all.
He would have eaten more punches from gaurd like in the 1st dude, get over it and enjoy the tavares fight. Youll get to see Matt/Matt soon, have another ber and stop stewing.
I do admit I’m fully hating on Thiago. I just don’t like him. XD
nevermind about enjoying the tavares fight, sucka got KOeD!
Anybody that doesnt make weight for a main event is of my radar so dont think i like T or something, if he faught at 185 like he is supposed to they would have to change his name to The Poodle.
Yeah, I think its a big disrespect to Matt Hughes to come in 4 pounds overweight. Since it was a catchweight, who knows how many pounds he was overweight coming into the octagon?
He is way way way off my radar too.
Test the guys piss lol he is suspect !!!!!!
What a BS excuse about the sprained ankle being the reason he couldn’t make weight. Then put on the sweatjacket and get on a stationary bike, fatty!! That won’t bother your ankle. Or ever hear of a sauna? Any number of things besides your Ex-lax. Alves better not get a title shot immediately. We don’t need another Lutter fiasco. Too bad Davis lost because now one has to wonder who else might be next in line after Fitch.
My boy alves destroyed hughes, DESTROYED!
I still have no respect for Alves!!
I actually feel sorry for Hughes, its not the way you want to go out.
He should refuse fights if people don’t make weight or wait for a fighter to heal like Serra like all other fighters would.
RESPECT HUGHES!!!!
dude, I got nothing but respect for hughes, but he got destroyed here, DESTROYED! LMAO.
He did get destroyed
but the back of Alves head was bigger than butterbeans
No kidding. Alves looked like he was at 180-185 when he fought.
refuse the fight because thiago didn’t make weight?
i respect because he did take it but would not if he turned it down like you said he should have. what kind if real fighter would do that?
True but rules are rules. Hughes didn’t need to take the fight. He should never be put in a position where he needs to make the decision. For the reason you stated, he had to take the fight for fear of losing respect. HE SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN MADE TO MAKE THE DECISION!!
It was like watching UFC 1, The size difference was enormous.
UFC should give Alves the Lutter and Kalib Starnes treatment.
Automation, it wasn’t enormous, it was 4 pounds over. I know alves looks bigger and all, but he was 4 pounds over yesterday, it’s not really that much. Still, he should have made the weight though, after the fight he lied to dana by saying he’s been a good boy and he deserved a title shot, if I were dana I’d have him fight a couple of more times to see if he can make the weight, a champion can never be over the weight!
I’m just eating sour grapes. I never like to see any fighter humilated and Hughes was humilated.
Yes 4lbs at weigh in but he looked so much bigger at the fight. He must have light weight plastic bones or as Mr NC-17 stated, was fighting at a minimum 185lbs
‘Humiliated’
linx, 4 lbs is HUGE, if you don’t have to DEHYDRATE your body the day before the fight to lose that last 4 lbs. Look at Joe Riggs, he cut from 200lbs and it showed the next day how drawn out he was. If you want to be WAY bigger you have to sacrifice your performance a bit by draining your body losing that much weight (especialy the last 5 lbs). Tiago didn’t do that, he got the best of both worlds. That and it is obvious that he is cranking. He’s a cheater, any way you look at it.
I respect Matt Hughes and all but how can you not respect what Alves did?? He made Hughes look like a scrub! And the 3lbs that he was over in no way helped him win. You my friend are just a sore loser because your fighter got railed! And you wanna know why your golden boy took the fight even with the weight issue? $$$$$$$$$$$$ MONEY - thats the reason…not because he just was trying to be a nice guy…get real!
your boy? if you like cheaters and losers i guess you could call him your boy.
hey, no one put a gun to matt’s head and told him to accept the fight…
Bisping is coming for silva franklin hendo you better believe it!!! i told you to bring a body bad for day!!!
Henod and Silva . . . LMAO!! Maybe Franklin . . . Maybe.
Don’t drink to much guys ‘bad’ and ‘Henod’ lol
Ive never laughed so hard!
Oh yea, because Bisping has proven himself so well against real competition, right? haha
He couldn’t even pass Rashad Evans and stole the fight from Matt Hamill. Bisping is Silva/Franklin/Hendo what Britney Spears is to Jimi Hendrix. Please get real.
LOL YouTapped, let’s give Bisping some respect here, you’re analogy is a bit of a stretch. I’d say is more like Madonna to Jimi Hendrix
damn upsets all over the place..hughes, davis, vera, nate
upsets to you maybe…
ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This was boring as $h1T!!!!
Glad I didnt pay for it.
Terrible. Matt’s a class act and one of the guys that built the UFC to the status it’s at today. Alves is a punk and a disgrace to the sport for not making weight. Part of me wonders if this was staged to set up a good fight for GSP after he runs through Fitch. There’s simply no way Alves beats a wrestler as talented as Hughes that easily.
YES!!! STAGED, STAGED!!! everything nowadays is staged, UFC, EliteXC, Dream, you name it, it’s staged. The referees are bought, so are the judges, and the fighters? Don’t get me started. Hughes probably got 500k to throw that fight and eat that nasty knee to the face and some nice ground and pound. I mean, I’ll take 500k to land on my knee and be almost knocked the F. out! Forget about my reputation as a fighter, money talks! They should just call it WWE and not MMA.
If you haven’t noticed I am being sarcastic, but this is how you conspiracy theorists sound to me… Kind of sad, really.
“Matt Serra you really need to come up with a gameplan now.”
Does anybody else think that Matt Hughes was looking more towards Matt Serra more than Thiago Alves?
Matt Hughes did not look good. He would keep dropping guard and taking huge punches and attempting submissions, which made no sense what so ever to me. Hughes can’t really take down anybody it seems now. I believe that he needs to retire, and I hope Matt Serra dominates him into retirement.
Jason Day looked like shit. Period. Or did Bisping look that good?
Mike Swick is boring at 170.
Marquardt/Leites heck of a fight, and you actually got to see a piledriver performed.
Good Stoppage Dan… Good Stoppage. You stop that fight, but not the Kimbo fight?
i said that matts ego might get in the way, but honestly i dont think it mattered. hughes is a shot fighter. he should retire now. rogan said the fans wanna see hughes/serra, i dont! serra will embaress hughes. you could tell in the 2nd rnd when matt didnt get the takedown he had this look on his like”what do i do now” then alves koed him. hughes was beatwn mentally as well. i think gsp has ruint him. hughes is too 1 dimensional for all these new generation of fighters. no disrepect towards hughes. he was a hell of a fighter for his time and is a sure-fire hof fighter, but his time has passed. alves loked very sharp, but from here on out he has to make weight, no matter what or be suspended. how about KAMPANN VS BISPING. that would be the next logical fight for both. swick vs diego would be a good fight( im assuming he’s gonna beat luigi) vera needs to move down to lhw and get a win quick or he could find himself being cut. this wasnt the best card ever, but it wasnt the worst either. lots of surprises and answers and the marquardt/lietes fight was a classic. def should be a rematch. no boring fights at all really just quick endings.
How is it going to help Vera moving to LHW. Does Dan (I don’t know the first thing about reffing) not make the SAME shitty calls at every weight class. You make it sound like Vera actually loss legitimately.
Matt Hughes, I don’t know what to say. He was humilated. I never like to see any fighter humilated. Its like he is already retired and just going through the obligations of his contract.
Jason Day looked shit because Bisping made him look shit. People under estimate how hard Bisping hits. Day was wanting none of his strikes.
Mike Swick still done a good job of Davis’ face. His game plan was bang on. Davis did not expect take downs.
‘Humiliated’
corrected it above too lol
I knew it. Called it before the fight. Alves would win via tko. Guaranteed title shot for Alves with this win.
no way, him missing weight will have repracussions in the form of fighting Swick, BJ Penn will be fighting GSP after fitch, GAURANTEED!
Adam, gotta agree with you. BJ vs. GSP on the year-end show. Better yet would be BJ replacing Fitch in August.
shitt.. hughes lost lol. im a fan of his but its time to hang it up. he cant compete with the new guys. i wouldnt be suprised of serra beats him now
Bisping is the mother fucking boss!!!! you can forget what happened against Evans and Hamill as that was clearly his wrong division. Bisping gets so pumped with pride cockyness and aggression and he fights like a man not some f**king faggot cuddler i think you call it wrestling. well done to alves another man a fighter beating a cudddler hughes.
You’re not an MMA fan ,you’re a boxing fan. To bad for you, that faggot cuddling, as you call it, is one of the biggest assets to a well rounded fighter and MOST past and present champions have been quite good at cuddling.
How many times he needs to win so you guys will stop saying that he got lucky. If he gets lucky everytime he knocks someone out than you may say the same about rampage KOing liddell, silva KOing everybody, gonzaga KOing CroCop. I can continue if you want me too. He didn’t get lucky. He destroyed Hughes, and you simply can’t admitt that
If u admit that he is juiced I will admit that he didnt get lucky.
This bullshit UFC ppv in England sucks. What the hell was that fight between Nate and Thales? After he got pile drived by Nate, he still won!!!!!!! That is what I call
GROSS MISCONDUCT ON THE PART OF BRIT JUDGES
Just like they gave Bisping the win over Hammil, which was just as bad.
So Bisping won, WHO FUCKEN CARES? He won against a nobody Davis debuting his FIRST FIGHT, and we are supposed to be proud of Bisping?
Why doesn’t Dana give Bisbing a decent fighter to fight like Silva, who will crush his ugly Brit face in and actually hopefully improve his rotten face and attitude.
Bisping dropped down a division cuz he knows that he can’t beat Forest or Tito.
Sincerely
Sunny
BTW, Vera got fucked over ROYALLY
Nate/Thales - Not much the judges can do about Marquardt being deducted (and rightfully so) 2 points by the ref for illegal strikes. Heck, I’m shocked one judge still gave it to Marquardt.
Bisping fought Day, not Davis, and this was not his fight debut. This was his second fight in the UFC, and he was coming into the fight with Bisping on a 5 fight hot streak with wins over Loiseau and Belcher. And I don’t think Bisping should get Anderson Silva just because you want to see his face get smashed in - let him earn a fight with the champ.
I will say Vera did get screwed over though.
Rightfully so my ass. 1 point was fair for the knee, but the slow motion replay (something they should start using to counter blind refs, bad calls) clearly showed it was a LEGAL strike to the SIDE of the head. Even with the 1 point lost, Nate clearly won the fight.
Not what I saw. Maybe I’d have to see the replay again. First time I saw it, it looked like he clipped the back of Leites’ head, justifying the point deduction. Not a bad call. Which means Marquardt needs to be more careful and pay more attention when he starts unloading on people.
it was the u.s.a judges who went with bisping over hammil
Thiago Alves defeats Matt Hughes -
I just think the fight game has evolved from Hughes. He beat up guys left and right. Used his power to beat people. But the other fighters got stronger, better skilled, and Hughes eventaully got older.
Micheal Bisping defeats Jason Day -
Bisping looked scary good. Who’s next? Rich Franklin? Then title shot?
Mike Swick defeats Marcus Davis -
Swick came to fight. He looked a lot better than his first fight against Burkeman. Who’s next? Swick vs. Alves gets a title shot? How about Swick vs. Karo - lotsa fireworks potential.
Thales Leites defeats Nate Marquardt -
Man! Fight of the night no doubt!
Frabrico Werdum defeats Brandon Vera -
Brandon, drop to 205lbs now buddy. There are no more superfights for you in the HW division. More interesting matchups at 205.
Martin Kampmann defeats Jorge Rivera -
Hitman was on. Slick jits. Wasn’t this guy going to fight Rich Franklin before his knee blew out? Man he looked good.
Matt Wiman defeats Thiago Tavares -
Heart! Who can forget that knee to the face he took from Spencer Fisher. KO of the night IMO.
Kevin Burns defeats Roan Carneiro -
BJJ blue belt taps the BJJ black belt. Carneiro isn’t gonna hear the end of this from his BJJ camp.
Alves/Hughes - Gotta agree. And I was somebody who thought Alves would get crushed in this fight. It looks like everyone’s figured out Hughes by now - avoid the takedown. Making me really curious how the Serra/Hughes fight will play out now…
Bisping/Day - Franklin…I guess that depends on how Rich fares against Hendo. Me, I wanna see Bisping take on Leben next before anybody else.
Swick/Davis - He looked better than he did against Burkman, but this fight was still kind of a dud IMO. As for who he should take on next…how about Diego. it would be funny to see if all AKA team members get a win over Sanchez.
Leites/Marquardt - Some nice action, and a sick looking piledriver from Marquardt, but too much illegal activity from Nate for me to consider this fight of the night.
Werdum/Vera - While i think the fight was stopped early, I agree that Vera should take this as a hint to finally drop to 205.
Kampmann/Rivera - Yeah, it was originally supposed to be Franklin/Kampmann instead of Franklin/Okami IIRC. If Kampmann racks up a few more wins, I could see him getting into title contention.
Wiman/Tavares - Awesome comeback for Wiman. He’s never looked better than he did when he took the fight to Thiago and knocked him out.
Alves is the man, he is a true challenge to both fitch and GSP
Alves was already crushed by Fitch… And GSP will not just lay on him WHEN he takes him down.
Bisping looked really good. I thought Day would give him a good test, I was way off. I see him getting Quarry next, possibly Franklin?
kampman!
B.W: Am I good or what?
I bet:
Bisping
Werdum
Alves
Leites
Lost $500 on Marcus Davis, and still won $$ overall!
John-stradamus strikes again
All you dudes need to start taking my boy Tiago and Leites seriously!
Werent a lot of people bashing me for predicting Werdum?
Soon I am going to really have to start charging for my picks!
until you change your views on Kimbo, I’ll not take your picks seriously lol.
Only joking
I’m glad Bisping is starting to prove himself to the doubters
congrats. i wouldn’t have the balls to bet against hughes, so kudos for that one especially. needless to say who your picking if hughes goes on to fight serra. he says he is, but his friends and family should talk him out of it. it would still be a big money fight, but i think hughes has made enough for a farmer. ive never liked hughes, but even i dont want to see him being embarresed any more. its time for him to hang-em up.
john, get over yourself.every time i get on here to read the ppv aftermath you are always on here talking about how great of a fight predictor you are and how you should charge for your pick.get over yourself dude.wow john your the man(sarcasm)
John, you must have psychic abilities to know that Leites would win even though he LOST. Nate PROVED he is the better fighter to all but the blind. Also how did you know the Vera fight would be stopped when Vera didn’t lose by ANY definition of the rules. He didn’t get subbed, he didn’t tap (actually the opposite, he said he was OK), his safety wasn’t in jeopardy and he didn’t even have a scratch on him. I wouldn’t take credit for these 2 picks, because Nate won and Vera didn’t lose. Good job on the others though.
U guys can hate all ytou want, All I know is I make good money every single time that the UFC has an event!
Hate all you want, if that makes u feel better, I actually earn money for watching UFC events….U aint bringing me down today…SUCKA!!
i made good $ too, but i dont get on here and brag about it.the only fight that didnt go my way was the bs early stoppage where Vera was robbed. im not hating at all. im just not real fond of people who toot their own horn.
Everyone seems to be just touching on Bisping.
Come on guys, give him props. Everyone has been bashing him and going on about how he hasn’t been tested.
Look at how he made Day look. The same Day that destroyed Belcher, the same Day that has beat Goulet and Loiseau both respected fighters.
I laugh in the face of the Bisping haters lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UU6m3cqk
bisping gnp is the best in mma, he is awesome in inflicting damage while his opponent is on his back even in the guard.
damn swick was boring, a striker taking davis down and little elbows for 3 rnds. bisping looked good and it was good to see werdum actually wearing some pants that fit for once in stead of those little tight pants. alves is a beast he could fight at middleweight, and mirgliotta needs a new job cos that was an early/controversial stoppage. not werdums fault but damn let the fight play out. fight of the night has to go to marquardt leites what a war. both tough sobs
I never gave verdum a chance, he took brandon down at will and dominated him, he truly is a contender, while vera was very disappointing.
also I like the fact that we only had 3 decisions.
Id say quarry or leben 1st then franklin or hendo 2nd then silva! bisping said ufc is coming to birmingham england in october again.
swick davis fight was BORING! All hugging against the fence, then each other taking turns dry humping on the ground for 3 rounds BORING.
Swick threw a couple good kicks, but he looked slow and his “g-n-p” or in his case, gay-ass down-syndrome girl style windmill g-n-p was pathetic. Swick - Davis = zzzzzzzzz snoozefest, gimme 1/5 of my 44.95 back UFC!
Every PPV people complain about terrible match-ups and only having only five “televised” fights. Once again, if the fighters deliver and finish we will get to see the extra fights. Today, eight of the eleven were shown in their entirety and two of the remaining three had their finishes shown. Once again, the “this card is a joke” PPV delivered a solid amount of entertainment.
That said, I can’t wait until the “These guys are underpaid” comments in a couple days in the pay-out thread.
Very impressed with Bisping and glad he is adding depth to MW division now. That along with the return of the Hitman and 185 isn’t so thin anymore. Some good potential match-ups possible.
Anybody have thoughts biggest shock in TUF history? Could just be a line to bolster poor ratings and get people to tune in and nothing shocking will happen. I think the big shocker (if there actually is one) is Amir beating the big favorite Cock Block Dolloway. I really hope so. Noone likes a CB.
I hope that Vera now realizes that he has to drop to LHW!! The fact that the ref (Miragliotta) stopped the Vera fight but did not stop the Ferguson fight when he was getting pummelled for 45 seconds proves that the Ferguson - Thompson fight was fixed. Vera only has himself to blame though as he put himself at the ref’s discretion. Objectively, overall this was not one of the UFC’s better cards.
i really hope he vera gets back on track
Sounds like a great card.
What the heck, Alves never made weight. Crazy.
I was f’n wrong about all the fights again…
Do I even watch mma?
And I liked Roan to win…
Anyway I still hate Alves and Yes I would make him scrap with someone before a title shot hmmmmmm SWICK…
I would also Like to see Bisping fight Franklin.
And Vera vs H. Alexander in a LHW match.
This sets Hughs and Serra up well.
I’d Like to see Davies vs Karo even…
yes, day vs bisping almost looked like a mismatch… he was wayy to good for day.. i actually like bisping at mw he looks very good much better than at lhw
it sucks about matt getting beat it was a good show but i cant wait for ufc 86. I think rampage will win but then i hope wanderlia silva beats him and gets the belt because he really deserves it.
My thoughts on UFC 85 -
Vera/Werdum: I picked Vera to win this, so I was naturally disappointed to see him lose. I think the fight was ended prematurely. Sure, Werdum was kicking Vera’s ass and was raining down the ground and pound, but he never really had him hurt and there were only a couple of seconds left in the round. I suppose it doesn’t help matters since this was the same ref involved in the Kimbo Slice/James Thompson fight.
Marquardt/Leites: I thought this one could go either way initially. It’s a shame about the point deductions costing Marquardt the decision, but this is one time I agree with the refs since he blatantly kneed Leites, and you could see his fists kept on grazing the back of his head. Pretty cool looking piledriver slam by Nate, but by this point the card isn’t off to the best of starts.
Swick/Davis: Looks like training with Fitch and Koscheck has really paid off for Swick. This was another fight where the guy I was rooting for lost. Davis should have done more to keep the fight standing though. It was clear after the first round he’d be at Swick’s mercy off his back. This fight was the one I was looking forward to the most, but was also the biggest disappointment in my eyes. It just wasn’t as explosive a contest as you’d imagine judging from the names of the fighters involved. While this was better than the Burkman for fight for Swick, it still paled in comparison to most of his past fights and I’m starting to wonder if I’ll ever really see Quick Swick in action again. He’s just not as exciting to watch as he used to be.
Bisping/Day: Bisping really impressed me here. While I picked Bisping to win this one, I expected the guy who demolished Alan Belcher to put up a much tougher fight for him. A lot of respect I lost for Bisping in the Hamill fight is slowly creeping back in. Still gotta give props to Day though for stepping in there. And I really hope they can make Leben Bisping’s next opponent like he was supposed to be for this card, that’s a fight I really want to see happen!
Hughes/Alves: Wow - Did NOT expect to see that. I totally picked Hughes to take this fight and refused to jump on the Matt Hughes is over bandwagon(I mean, come on, his last two losses were to GSP for crying out loud). But damn, Alves looked good in there. Good sprawl, and a devastating knee. I still think Hughes has a couple of fights left in him, so I’m glad he’s not retiring before he takes on Serra. And Alves asking for a title shot - heh, you might NOT want to ask the president of the company for a title shot when you came in overweight to this one, no matter how your performance was. No one wants another Travis Lutter or Joe Riggs situation.
Undercard fights -
Lambert/Cane: Lambert looked out of shape. That’s all there really is to say about this one.
Wiman/Tavares: Man, I didn’t give Wiman a chance in hell here. Tavares was taking it to him in the first, but he came back strong in the second and scored a great knockout.
Kampmann/Rivera: Nice to see ring rust wasn’t an issue for Kampmann in his return fight after a years absence. I think he could potentially become a contender.
Overall: Not a bad way to spend an afternoon at the sports bar, but this was not one of the UFC’s better fight cards, and UFC 86 looks to only have a title match over this one. UFC 87 can’t get here fast enough IMO.
Nate Marquardt > God
Is that why he thought he could break the rules?
LMAO
I said it “Thales is going to show he has some stand up skills” Thales WINS!
wrong location to post but someone posted this link on sherdog:
Floyd Mayweather Signs With UFC
http://www.wrestling-edge.com/wwenews.php?subaction=showfull&id=1212857304&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&
Wow that’s nuts if its true. I mean Mayweather is gonna have to do a lot of work on takedown defense if he wants to stand a chance in MMA but I would definately be interested in seeing him fight and it would be huge for MMA because of all the attention he’d draw from mainstream media.
It looks like Matt Hughes is nothing without his juice or hgh or blood doping or what ever he was using when he was slamming guys through the mat. I mean doesn’t it show now that all those guys who dominated an the past and are still young enough to compete who cant get past the commisions without getting popped on a test. Who wont risk it because it will erase all there wins in the past, dont do so well anymore. It seems fishy to me.
And the HUGE size increase in Alves doesn’t seem fishy to you? Come on, if anyone is taking performance enhancing drugs, it is Alves. Alves’s steroid bloated head seems pretty fishy to me.
Hate to say it, but when one fighter has greatly improved in strength steriods always come to mind. Also, Hughes is not getting any better, he’s past his prime and took his talent as far as he could go, he made a great Champion n’ Ashole… fight Matt Serra and maybe BJ then hang it up.
Younger good fighters entering the UFC from about 4 yrs ago are now starting to peak in their mid 20’s to 30… it’s their time now.
I say hughes still got it to go against serra, but bj is way out of his league…
Matt just dont have any answer to the atlethisism, power, skill level, and the killer instinct to finish fights that young guys like Thiago Alves, and GSP does.. It would have been a upset if Hughes could’ve avoided Alves powerful strikes for 3 rounds to me.. to be honest i believe that a guy like Anthony Johnson would take Matt Hughes out also, and so would Koscheck and Diego Sanchez too..
not to be a dick, but learn grammer. there is a difference between a and an. and i know i am a jerk.
sincerely,
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YoU an Dick a-HOLE… this is not a spelling bee!
I am the real John, that was not my post above… I owuld never come on this site and complain about Grammer…..Mania….Get that Dam,n imposter off of this site!
would lol
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Hughs got beat up, I hoped he would win to pump the Serra a fight a little but I’ll still watch it. Alves was really impressive.
Bisping should fight Patrick Cote next to test Bisping’s chin. If he gets past Cote let him fight Franklin or Henderson.
Hughes is a shoe in UFC hall of famer and im a huge fan of his. He needs a different gameplan cuz everyone is on par with his wrestling skills and his strength which used to be his advantage over other fighters. Deff needs to work on his striking thats the biggest hole in his game is the striking offense and defense. I dont think Thiago’s weight had much to do with it although he prob put on about 10 pds since the weight in before the fight. The sport in itself is evolving fast and growing so some fighters like hughes that were unstoppable 2 or 3 years ago now are being outclassed by the up and coming fighters that are extremely well rounded. Its not to late to round out Hughes’s game unless he thinks it is. His wrestling and BJJ are great he should focus on the striking mainly. I dont credit him not being able to secure takedowns much anymore to him lacking in that area i credit it to extremely talented fighters with great sprawls or defense. If Hughes had lawler like striking capabilites he would be near unstoppable lol. but thats not gonna happen i know. Thiago is the real thing but i need to see him fight someone up his alley a little more style wise before they start thinking title shot. hughes lost and as a fan i can except that lol every fighter wins and loses thats part of the sport really any sport for that matter. And if your gonna be a fan ya have to get used to excepting the losses along with the wins. I still think he will beat Serra but its a good matchup so i hope its a great fight.
You need to see Thiago fight someone else before he gets a title shot? He just won 6 straight including back to back wins over Karo and Hughes respectively I think thats all you need to get a title shot. Had Davis one today you could have argued he was next in line though. I guess you could have Schwick fight Alves though he did beat Burkman and Davis and had a pretty solid streak going before losing to Okami at middleweight.
Did they even mention the fact that Alves came in 4 lbs over during the broadcast?
Hughes is a team player and has come through for the UFC to provide exciting main events when other fighters have gotten injured or couldn’t make weight. Unfortunately, it has worked to his own detriment. He let GSP fill in when Matt Serra got injured. I think Hughes would have beaten Serra, but he lost to GSP. Alves could not make weight for this fight and looked much bigger than Hughes. But Hughes would never refuse to take the fight and ruin the night for the UFC and it’s fans, even though Alves was much bigger and stronger than him. But no one will remember Matt for being a good guy and taking both these fights. All that will be remembered is that he lost them both and that this has probably ended his career.
I dont think his career is over I still see him fighting Serra but that will probably be the last one no real reason to keep fighting after he fights Serra.
ill remember him for being a classy athlete, loyal to his fans, hardworking, far too religious and willing to take a shitty fight (for him) anytime. and a little red behind the ears
vera! what happen! talo ka na naman
what funny to me is all this talk about Bisping vs Franklin or Hendo. Bisping hasnt fought anyone worth a shit.he lost to Evans and anyone with any since know Matt Hamill beat him too and got the shaft.So i say yes, let him fight hendo or franklin,so i can see him lose BADLY and all this over hype Bisping bs will come to an end. Vera got shafted tonight as well.
What hype around Bisping????
Everyone has been hating on him. So you now think Day wasn’t a reputable opponent??
You’ll always hate Bisping no matter what, probably like I’ll hate on Alves.
All the fighters always say or even have a motto ‘Don’t leave it to the judges’ for the reason that the judges are unpredictable with their judging. We can’t hate Bisping for the Hamill call.
Bisping would easily hang with Franklin, not sure about Hendo just yet though.
Give the guy a break!!
LOL Bisbing would get destroyed by Franklin. Hendo or Franklin would destroy him he’s not that good, name a top 10 fighter he’s actually beat.
We’ll see!
I assume you’re Canadian with you hating on Day losing lol
i dont hate Bisping im neutral with him. i hate GSP. im not from Canada either. im 6ft 4in 250lbs of meat eating 100% ALL AMERICAN MALE MACHO ASSHOLE thank you!!!!
I hope, jdawg, you are calling yourself an asshole and not me. I was responding to GSP4Prez.
With a name like GSP4Prez, I assumed he was canadian which would explain his dislike of Bisping beating Day and outright hating of Bisping in general.
Like it or not, Bisping would easily hang with Franklin. They are at diferent directions with their careers and passing by each other i.e. Franklin on the way down and Bisping on the way up. Bisping is faster and hits hard.
i was referring to my myself with the asshole comment and was not calling you an asshole.i do believe that if you think Bisping hits harder than Rich you may be a little loco. no reason to get offended
No problem jdawg, I was about to unleash my wife on you
lol.
I’m not saying he hits as hard as Rich, but he does hit hard and is quicker than Rich.
he lost to evans and hamill did good against him because that was a a diffrent weight! you know that don’t you? bitter yank because hughes is crap! bitter yank! your hall of famer was winning when ufc was crap like tito!
Gentlemen, this is a perfect example of why I don’t bet. I would’velost my ass on this card! Begrudgeingly (sp?) I give kudos to Bisping. It’s time for him to start calling people out! I’d love it if he called out Leben! He beats him, then maybe I’m a believer.
Dan Mirgliotta should not be reffing mma period. He should be calling matches in the WWE. What a fucking joke!
Goddamn meathead…
your finished hughes.. u had a good run… time to throw in the towel bud
It is amazng that Mirglitta remains employed. Bad fight stoppages, standing up fighter while they are in aggresive floor positions. Some of the stuff I have seen him call over the last 2 weeks have been absurd…
chefdaddy! i told you as bisping will keep winning he will beat them all including franklinl and get a title shot.
Im f**king sick of this shit people still talk shit about bisping! he is on the verge of them big fights now so give it a little time! but you are dreaming if you think Leben can beat Bisping. Bisping will beat Frabklin then get silva thats how i see it playing out after the Leben fight.
the UFC is really hyping vera because of pure business aspect..because of manny pacquiao in lightweight boxing. pacquiao got 500T ppv numbers in his last fight… so the ufc wants that same crowd(theres an estimated 2 Million filipinos in the u.s) to buy its ppv…filipino market. and combine that with the american established ufc market..then theyll make a lot of money… but it backfired because he lost… im filipino and support vera.BUT DAMN he makes so many excuses!!!!!..he had the golden opportunity to k’o tim silva..and get the title.but he broke a thumb boooowhooowhoo… now he got mounted and he’s saying– let him take his woopin in 20 seconds….a lot of tough talk but i think he lacks the heart… he told everybody he trains 6 hours a day but was clearly gassed against silva…. i think its the fear factor(fear makes you tight and you tire quickly)….
talo ka na naman vera.hay naku.puro palusot