EliteXC weigh-in results for Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson CBS event; Gina Carano fails to make weight (UPDATE)
By: MMAmania
photo: combatlifestyle.com
The official weigh-ins for the Elite XC primetime special “Saturday Night Fights” from just OUTSIDE the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J., are now in.
And it didn’t go all too smooth.
In particular, the “female face” of mixed martial arts, Gina Carano, failed to make weight on her first attempt.
Normally, she would have one hour to lose 3.5 pounds (she weighed in at 144.5); however, MMAmania.com learned from Nick Lembo, the New Jersey Athletic Control Board (NJACB) Deputy Attorney, that the regulatory body didn’t want her to cut anymore weight.
Therefore, prior to the official weigh-ins, a deal was struck between the Carano and Young camps that the fight would go on and “Conviction” would surrender a 12.5 percent purse penalty.
Here are the official scale-tipping results:
265 lbs.: Kimbo Slice (235.5) vs. James “The Colossus” Thompson (257)
185 lbs.: “Ruthless” Robbie Lawler (184.5) vs. Scott “Hands of Steel” Smith (184.5)
185 lbs: Joey Villasenor (184.5) vs. Phil “The New York Badass” Baroni (185)
140 lbs: Gina “Conviction” Carano (144.5) vs. Kaitlin Young (140.5)
265 lbs.: Brett “The Grim” Rogers (263.5) vs. Jon Murphy (260.5)
265 lbs.: Carlos Moreno (261) vs. Carlton Haselrig (263)
160 lbs.: Chris Liguori (161) vs. Jim Bova (160.5)
170 lbs.: Nick Serra (167) vs. Matt Makowski (171)
140 lbs.: Wilson Reis (140.5) vs. Justin Robbins (140.5)
155 lbs.: James “Binky” Jones (154.5) vs. Calvin Kattar (155.5)
135 lbs.: Zach Makovsky (135) vs. Andre Soares (134)
155 lbs.: Mike Groves (154) vs. Joe Sampieri (155)
*Note: Fighters are allowed to weigh one pound more than the division limit in non-title fights.
Remember that MMAmania.com will provide LIVE blow-by-blow, round-by-round coverage of the main card action, beginning at 9 p.m. ET with the CBS broadcast on fight night. In addition, we will post the latest quick results of the prelim action at around 7 p.m. ET.
The MMAmania.com crew will be on the scene all weekend, which means that you can expect some great coverage of the first-ever mixed martial arts bout to air on network television.
Definitely check in before, during and after the the “Primetime” event for all the coverage and discussion you can handle.
111 Comments »
I’d laugh so much if Thompson KO’s him early!!
I’ll say it here first…if Kimbo’s next opponent is Mike Tyson, Gannon or Ken Shamrock, I will cancel my showtime subscription, and only watch elite for Nick Diaz fights. He needs to fight someone in the top 100!!
that would be great!
gary shaw would shit a brick.
Gina didnt make weight… was this supposed to be at a catch weight? I thought it was at 140?
lol I called it again…trackback baby. this fat bitch doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as mma. Luppers, you should change your screen name to “kevinisalwaysright”
what a joke!!!!!!
I was just about to comment about you calling Gina not making weight. I read the post and started cracking up.
guaranteed Luppers or all the boobie guys won’t comment now. I’d do her, don’t get me wrong, but this is an MMA forum, not maxim!!
“Fat bitch”…. thats funny as hell.
Props to you on that call about her weight Kevin.Oh well she has lost a % of her purse for it but what she makes on gladiators who want her at 165 will more than cover the loss i think.
Have a feeling she is in for a ass whooping shame its not me locking her in for a triangle.
Kevin: I am one of those boobie guys and I will comment.
BOOBIES!
lol
Kevin what if Gina wins?? I’m rooting for her just cause she’s hot and can throw a couple punches and kicks.
Carano, had 2 weeks to train, obviously that is difficult, but of course she’s fortunate to be on the Gladiator’s we all know that. However, she could have made weight, just eat small for weeks prior and run 1 hr a day.. whenever/wherever possible… that would keep her weight down at a managable level.
Somehow 12.5% for a purse deduction doesn’t seem like enough… I’m sure Young is ready and fit… I hope she tires Carano out 1st then kicks her head off.
Carano has a decent ground game I wouldn’t be surpised if she goes for the early KO in standup, or tries to take Young down and submit her.
Hey kevin……..BOOBIES! lol
You called it! But you gotta subtract 2 lbs per fake boob, so she was actually only over by .5 lb, so that is allowed (allowed 1 lb over). All these flat chested busted girls have a big advantage when it comes to making weight.
Just think about it.
My ‘meat and potatoes’ weigh about 5 lbs. So I am at a disadvantage when it comes to weighing in against people with teenie weenies.
LOL, I was able to say what I wanted without getting moderated - hence the bizaar terminolgy…
Is there anything more embarrassing for a chick than to have the whole world know exactly how far overweight she is?
I bet you walk with a mean limp. Hahaha
Looking at Gina’s picture at the weigh ins, she sure don’t look overwieght???
And James S, depending on which side I’m hanging, I find myself walking in circles…LOL
thats not this weigh in, thats 2 fights ago I think…correct me if I’m wrong mania
I think that’s an old picture.
sept. 2007 to be exact
Regardless, who wouldn’t tap that?
of course mike, but this isn’t a playboy site, it’s mma. I’ve been trying to comment on your “meat and potatoes” but for some reason I’m on super filter mode
LOL!!! That’s why I had to refer to is as such. To avoid super filter mode!
They do break the rules and bend over backwards for Gina. Speaking of bending over backwards…
ViolentMike and Kevin, you married men should be ashamed of yourselves! lol…I am telling mrs. VIOLENT! lol
Boobies! I had to do it! lol
I hope I dream of being caught in a triangle choke by a Naked Gina tonight! Thats the stuff that DREAMS are made of!
lol good one john, my wife hates that gina can’t make weight.
John, my wife is a big Gina fan and thinks she is HOT and SEXY. Actually, if Gina herself was down, both me, Mrs. Violent and Gina would be having a 3-some as soon as her face healed up!!!!
I didn’t say that I wanted to sleep with her by myself!
And Kev, my wife doesn’t think she is fat. Are you more attracted to that bony, flat chested, girl she was fighting? LOL, j/k.
You are all haters. Guarantee Gina would beat you down. Don’t talk crap non constructively unless you get in the ring/cage yourself.
what a douche bag. She’s never made weight, and doesn’t take mma seriously!!
Well considering I’m a state wrestler (nothing big lol state don’t mean shiat), I can say straight up that its bull that she didn’t make weight. She told people off about it and also plainly said that she wasn’t training enough. Making weight is not hard as long as your smart about it and instead she thought she could do it in two weeks. Well first thing is that, that is a dumb move because it leaves you drained and slow. Second is that I would beat the hell out of this chick, thats the problem is that these girls can’t roll with guys, hence why they have their own group. A guy usually just isn’t as agile but hence I have ground game and she doesn’t, I’d kill her, then I’d take her home and treat her nice. Either way I’m not fighting her and Young is, Young by leg kick to the head
Leg kick to the head? How is that even possible? Gina by fist punch to the leg! I kid I kid
SMokes… ru a chick?… or some guy that want’s to kick Gina’s ass?
according to another website MMAMANIA.COM she didn’t make weight and NJ athletic commission is taking 12% of her purse away!
I think I heard before that sometimes they will take up to 50 percent. She got lucky with just 12 being taken away. I wonder what she makes as well.
Four pounds!!!! Yowww!!!! What in the hell are her TRAINERS doing? Damn, the eliteXC boys must be crapping themselves silly. How SAD!
I guess it must be hard to have a soild weight class for women when there are so few women MMA fighters out there. I haven’t really followed women’s MMA, but I would assume that a lot of the fights would have to be catch-weight, no?
Gina didnt make weight
it’s supposed to be 135, the 140 is the “gina” weight class. If I was her opponent, I’d add insult to injury, take my money and decline the fight…or go out and knock this joke of an mma “competitor” out!!!
Dam, thats kinda harsh Kevin. Still its stupid on her part seeing as how shes supposed to be the face of womens MMA.
Yeah smart move. Pass up on the chance to be in the first women’s national broadcast fight at the most groundbreaking event in MMA history. That being said I do think Kaitlin has a good shot at a KO.
The real victim here is Kaitlin Young. She stated before the weigh-ins that she’d take the fight even if Carano came in overweight; so I wonder if Carano even really tried to cut to 140. Without the threat of the fight being cancelled, Carano’s choice was either a 12.5% pay cut and not having to cut weight. If it were me, I’d take the pay cut.
Yeah right, I wouldn’t be surprised If he paid him to take the fall like Bo Cantrell did.
Thompson has a glass chin!
i hope Kimbo becomes a great mma rounded fighter.
i want to see him fight the best when the cans are all
dented.
Yeah quit feeding the hype machine and give him an actual fighter. I’m not saying he needs to be fighting a-level fighters , but at least someone who poses a threat. Make Kimbo the underdog, that would be a good way to see how good he really is. lol
Gina’s a pretty big girl, good thing she’s got a smokin hot face to distract you from that fact. Hopefully they let her fight either way.
Well her boobs prolly weigh a good 3-5 pounds each, it’s not her fault really
I think they justify anything.
me too! boobies! to the nth degree!
Fair enough lol.
When exactly did she adopt this absurd name “conviction” ? It sounds a little “contrived”. She’s a great fighter, but it looks like she needs to put things in perspective and get her training camp at the top of her priority list. I sense a tough fight.
How ironic that her nickname is “Conviction” yet she lacks the necessary conviction to make weight and train enough.
I’m calling it right now, the Kimbo vs Thompson fight will have a “questionable” ending. Gary Shaw can’t afford to have Kimbo lose and will make sure it doesn’t happen. Kimbo will win this fight in less then a minute, I guarantee it.
Then how will that make it questionable? I see what your saying like if it went to decision and Kimbo won a fight that looked like Thompson won or that Thompson beat Kimbo but then Shaw comes up with something that says otherwise like he was roided or something but Kimbo can’t beat this dude in a minute and it be questionable.
I think it will be an ending similar to the Bo Cantrell fight. And if that fight wasn’t “questionable” I don’t know what is.
Stop hating on Gina. Fat bitches need love too.
I’ve done a couple big girls, the cute kind that would be absolutely smoking if they lost some weight. In all honesty, that was some of the best action I’ve had. They put a little extra effort in because they know they have to work harder to keep a man than thin chicks do.
I HEAR YOU PW! Back in the day when I was a senior in high school, I let this big girl-cute face type blow me. One of the better BJ’s I’ve gotten! (BUT, not the best)
WOOOOAAAHHHH, I almost forgot to include the fact that I was retardedly drunk at the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You let her blow you, you probably begged her
Lol yeah, I’ll let the fat bitches get their lovin’ from the ugly doodes.
The NJ Commission, and not Elite XC, will make the determination on whether Carano will need to cut weight.
Carano struggles to make 140 under normal circumstances, so it was always going to be a challenge for her to make weight today, especially since she was required to be 160+ for American Gladiators.
why did they require her to be 160 for american gladiators?
they “require” her to be 160?? I read reports she was walking around close to 190. Lets face it, she’s in it for the “hollywood” exposure, doesn’t train full time, and obviously eats too much!!
The show did cut into her training time quite a bit, I mean only 3 weeks to train or whatever isn’t much time at all. It’s her fault for going on the show knowing this of course. Having said that, I think if she was not on the show she would have made weight, but since they wanted her to stay bigger for the Gladiator appeal, she wasn’t “allowed” to cut down to 140 untill just a few weeks out, because she was “required” to be 160. lol
It’s early, and I just freshly roasted a bowl, so if that doesn’t make sense then too bad. lol
Don’t blame American Gladiators. Gina knew the weight she had to be at months ahead of time, she had to make a decision of either tell them to get over her not making 160 or to tell Elite that she can’t make it to 140. I find this disrespectful to MMA and to Young, nobody cut Lutter any slack when he didn’t make weight. Young will still fight Gina, and now Young will smoke her head off. You know what though it sucks cause now Gina has an excuse if she loses, she didn’t make weight, she was drained, dehyderated, stressed over having only 2 weeks of training. I don’t want to hear it and Young is much more deserving of being the face of WMMA, she just isn’t as pretty.
Is anyone going to be placing any money on either of theese events??? I got some questions as well…
Does anyone think that the odds on Kimbo, -450, justify a bet?
At +250, is it worth betting a small amount on Kaitlin Young?
Is Baroni vs Villasenior a coinflip situation?
At -350, is it still worth betting on Faber?
I do not see Kimbo losing to James Thompson. Even if Thompson tries to take the fight to the ground, I think Kimbo’s sprawl will be good enough to defend his weak takedown attempts. Also, with Thompson’s glass jaw, I don’t see him lasting more than 3 punches into the fight. Therefore, I will probably be betting on Kimbo. It is just about a lock.
I am going to be rooting for Gina to win of course, but the fact that she hasn’t been training and Kaitlin Young trains at the same place as Sherk and has a muay thai and kickboxing background as well really has me worried. I still see Gina as the favorite, but I’d feel much better betting on Young if she was more like +325.
Baroni vs Villasenior. If Baroni can catch Joey early, he can KO him. If the fight goes to the second round, Baroni tires and either loses a decision or gets finished in round 3. This is actually an interesting fight - it will be exciting for sure. I am still undecided on who I think will win, but I am leaning towards Joey.
I do not see Urijah Faber losing at 145 unless he fights Kid Yamamoto or some other Japanese fighter. However, -350 are pretty steep odds going up against an udefeated 145 lb Jens Pulver. Any left hand by Jens can end this fight. The only loss on Faber’s record was due to strikes (to Tyson Griffin of course). But I see Faber as just simply being too athletic for Pulver. Then again, that’s what people were saying about Cub Swanson as well. But Cub certainly is not Urijah in any way shape or form. Urijah’s wrestling skills are going to allow him to dictate where the fight goes, so if he is getting the worst of the standup, he can take it to the ground. That is, as long as he doesn’t get 1 punch KO’d. I like Faber, but I’ve been a little evil fan for years. I hate betting against who I will be rooting for, and I’ll be rooting for Jens. But at only +250, I feel a bet on Jens is throwing my money away.
How does everyone else feel about these fights? Its pretty slow today, so I’ll post in another thread too… Sorry if I inconvenience anyone…
Betting on Kimbo couldn’t be more of a sure thing if Tim Donaghy was reffing. You can look at it one of two ways: Either high-risk, low-reward or no-risk, low-reward, depending on whether you believe Scumbag Shaw offered “incentives” to Thompson to keep the fight standing. Either take an extra 50K under the table to take his KO like a man or be Mr. Funny Guy and end up missing in the desert outside of Las Vegas.
I also like Pancho Villasenor. My site has him at -120 and Baroni at -110, so essentially a coin flip. If Baroni doesn’t get the KO within three minutes Pancho wins.
Kaitlin might be worth a small bet, maybe $10 to win $25.
I like Faber and really think he has too many weapons for Pulver, but you’re right. One well-placed left, and the fight is over.
To be honest, I don’t like the odds for any of these fights. The only one I think I would bet on is Villasenior, I feel he should be the favorite, but not by much. Kaitlin Young might be worth a small bet, but IMO opinion only a small bet. I agree with you that betting on Jens is throwing your money away, no disrespect to Jens, but +250 isn’t enough for me to be betting him. So all in all, I don’t think I will be putting any money up on these two cards.
Alright, a couple bets are in…
Kimbo jumped to -550. It is so guaranteed.
What I did so far was a parlay on Kimbo and Faber to win. I got odds at a little under -200. Not too bad.
maybe kimbo put some money on Thompson and we’ll see a repeat of the scene from the naked gun. they’ll both throw punches that miss horribly and both go down for the count.
That’s what Satan did in his boxing match against Jesus on South Park. Everyone in town bet on Satan and swung the odds, then Satan bet on Jesus and took a dive.
Personally, I put $50 on Kimbo and $25 on Pancho Villasenior.
Not a bad parlay, I would bet that, unfortunatly I bet on BoDog and they don’t have parlays for mma (sucks for me).
That’s not a bad bet, you should throw Torres into that paylay. I bet on BoDog and they don’t have paylays for mma, but if they did I would probably have that same bet.
Definitely would have, but at the time, only the Pulver fight was listed.
I wont bet Kimbo period.
Bet Young.
Baroni is one-dimensional. I agree Villasenor will have to survive an early assault. If Joey fights smart, he wins…gets into a slugfest, he goes to sleep.
Faber is one of those guys that coasts along, looks somewhat human (beatable) and then flips a switch for the win. Kind of like Anderson Silva, just when you think someone has a chance, he flies out of the phone booth. Jens has to win by KO early to have any chance, but I will drop small coin on Pulver just for the odds.
Gina not making weight isn’t NEWS.
NEWS would be her being under the fight weight!
Gina didn’t make weight…Surprise surprise. I think the whole mma world called that one.
gina failed to make weight in her last 2 fights or at least one of them , freakin stupid man , i hate female mma , i’d let her give me a blumpkin though
Gina is not fat. I love her.
Wow last I checked Gina was not fat by any means… I think some guys in here need to do one of two things, get off their high horse or get off their man period. Gina can not help the fact that she is not a stick figure (granted being bigger for American Gladiator probably did not help her case but I am sure they are paying her a shit load better then what she gets for a fight).
I think Gina is extremely attractive and I hope she wins her fight but I know she is in for a tough battle.
U don’t get it,,, they call anyone a fat pig if they don’t make weight… it just means they don’t have any discipline and don’t deserve to be taken seriously.
This isn’t the only time she hasn’t made weight… people r sick of it and saying she’s isn’t a true MMA fighter… they may be right… no one is ever respect if they don’t make weight… male or female.
people start putting links to footage of all this on here please? thompson you can do it! i don’t know how but you can do it lmao
I can’t wait for Gina Carano’s playboy or porn ;|
Id tap it!
so hot
yeea absolutely! Gina should start doing porn..
The fight of the night will be the Matt Makowski vs Nick Serra fight . i’m calling it now . better than the main event ! .
God she is so hot.
Gina’s boobs are not fake, I love those boobies…signed gary shaw
Nothing like a HOT Italian woman who could kick your ass.
She needs to keep this shape. If she crosses over the line and goes woMAN, then she’ll lose her appeal. No roids Gina!
From what I understand, roids ruins a womans cooter. Is that true?
I’ll kill anyone that says she’s fat.
I give her that…Gina is hot as hell.
But come on they gave her her own weight class didnt they??? there is no 140 lb division, right???? AND SHE STILL HAS THE NERVE TO SHOVE DONUTS DOWN HER PIE HOLE and then try to lose 30 lbs in a couple of weeks.
What horseshit. I lost a lot of respect for her. She is giving everything on a pedestal….and she doesnt make weight???? Not the first time, and guarantee it wont be the last
American Fatiator
She’s not fat, she’s just lazy.
And only 12.5%?
Shouldn’t it be 25%->50%?
How can you know about any fight in advance of 2 months and not be able to make weight?
Good job on respecting this “great occasion” by not making weight and making female MMA look like a joke to the untrained eye.
Kaitlin Young first round TKO.