“The amount of talent and fights we put on are second to none. Think about it, the CBS fight that they are coming up with, who gives a crap about Kimbo Slice? This guy can’t fight MMA. You know what would happen if he fought in the UFC? I’d put him in against (lightweight champion) BJ Penn and (Slice) would get annihilated. The guy he is fighting, James Thompson, might get knocked out before he gets into the cage. Kimbo has no credibility at all in MMA. … I am telling you, BJ Penn would beat him.”
– UFC President Dana White tells the Press-Telegram that UFC Lightweight Champion BJ Penn (155 pounds) would annihilate Elite XC heavyweight Kimbo Slice (235 pounds) in a mixed martial arts bout. Slice is a famous street brawler who recently transitioned to the sport and will compete in a high profile fight with James Thompson during the main event of the Elite XC debut on network television (CBS) on May 31.
(Thanks to BloodyElbow.com for the assist.)
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atta boy Dana
hell let them go at that just mean more money for both companies everyone would watch regardless of who they thought would win
gotta say i agree, standing or on the ground BJ would win
Even of I do agree, which I do, we’ll never know! I can’t understand why Dana wouldn’t cross promote just one time, for this reason exactly.
Nog/Kimbo
GSP/Lawler
BJ/Noons
Mir/Bigfoot
Anderson silva/anyone
Then we never have to hear Gary Shaw again.
eh, Nog/Bigfoot
GSP/Shields
BJ/Noons
Herring/Kimbo
Anderson/Lawler
Nog/Bigfoot would be the only fight i would worry about, Silva has heavy hands and supposedly a good ground game
lol, did you watch his last fight?
no, did his ground look bad?
a lot of people believe ricco beat nog though
lets just say you making any positive comment without seeing it is ridiculous. An out of shape, gassed rodriguez looked better
ya Bigfoot looked awful vrs Rodriguez.
That was the only time I’d seen him fight, so I’m just gonna have to assume he’s awful.
Agreed - have the UFC stars dominate the rest of the MMA hype and Dana White wins because it will show how superior the UFC fighters are. Then it would be like comparing the NFL to the area football
Look, BJ is the best fighter in the world POUND FOR POUND, and tho Slice is just a brawler off the streets, it would take alot for BJ to bang with him. If this fight would ever take place, which it never would, BJ would have to get thru the first 2 rounds, let slice punch himself out, and then try to submit him. BJ is my favorite fighter, has been for a long time, but…. Kimbo is no bitch. Plus he out weighs BJ by what, 60 lbs plus.
You know where i stand, anybody, anytime. (now that hes in shape and serious)
dude you need your head checked
i agree BJ would win this fight too… but not standing… lets at least give some credit to kimbo… he would knock BJ the f out if the fight took place on the feet… that would be a boxing match… and sorry to say this… but the other J penn’s would be scraping BJ up from the floor.
BJ wasn’t knocked out against Machida, and Machida is just a little better at stricking then Kimbo. I don’t think Kimbo would win standing or on the ground (and I like Kimbo)
I think BJ would win but he’d have to be real careful about getting hit. If BJ could get him on the ground (which should be relatively easy) he could easily submit him.
I also think GSP and A. Silva would make short work of Slice.
kimbo has much heavier hands than machida and is a better boxer than him… machida is in and out… he’s not a guy that would go for the kill… don’t even know who he’s knocked out apart from franklin… kimbo for sure is a more powerful striker than machida… if the fight was standing… for sure he would knock BJ out…
and the machida fight wasn’t a standup war… i agree BJ would beat kimbo… but not on the feet…
Agree to disagree, so you think Kimbo is a better boxer than Machida?
boxer - yes… more power in his hands - yes… more technical all round striker - no… machida isn’t a boxer… he doesn’t even have a boxer’s stance or hand/upper body movement… at all… his legs are really wide and he has a slightly low stance… he strikes and retreats… continuously… kimbo is stronger, has more power, and yes… he is a better BOXER…
donny… i think silva would make short work of most people in mma at the moment… in any division… not just slice… i think he could beat liddell… and probably rampage too… in fact… i think he could probably clean out the light-heavyweight division too.
Your insane if you think Kimbo can even touch Rampage! Rampage would destroy this noob in first round standing or in the ground no problem. Kimbo does not have credability in the mma world
Yes, yes i do = )
yeah. anyone anytime…except for Georges St. Pierre…
Thats why he calls for GSP everytime he does an interview, cause he cant handle em, i see . . . .
Dana, even though I agree, you have once again taken the low road. You’re a great businessman, but a LOUSY spokesperson for the UFC. Sometimes it’s better to stay quiet and be thought a d*ck, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. Or something like that. lol
LMAO! As i ws reading that i was thinking i had heard on a Karate Kid movie or something LoL From some old wise man or something LoL, “Look eye, always look eye!”
those are words of fear coming from dana yet again! yes horrible spokesperson for the MMA in general, i mean the guy does it every week. (I still remember him saying the same shit about wanderlei before he signed him!) if he truly had nothing to worry about as far as competition, he would not be opening up his trap about it!
I wish Dana would stop sitting on the fence and tell us what he REALLY thinks.
Seriously. Take a stand once in a while Dana. Quit being such a fence sitter.
I like sarcasm.
ya, i wish people would use it once in awhile
At this point I think Dana is doing his competition a favor. To mention Kimbo and BJ in the same sentence is an insult to BJ. And it just gives Kimbo publicity that he does not deserve (according to MMA purists). Bad move, Dana.
i agree w/ this statement. dana is only helping the kimbo hype. wierd comparison imo, but probably accurate.
hahahahahahahaha, kimbo would kill bj, he’d knock him out with 1 punch, and it wouldn’t even have to connect, lol, bj could half ass block the punch and kimbo would still knock him out. he couldn’t come anywhere near taking kimbo down, lil bj might shoot for a leg, but kimbo would just pick him up one handed and power bomb him or something. dana’s wrong about that and he’s wrong about “nobody cares about kimbo”, bs, there’s probly gonna be 1 million people watch cbs just to see kimbo
Yeah I think alot of people will be watching too, but I don’t think we will learn much. Until Kimbo fights somebody decent, we won’t know anymore than we do right now. Can’t wait to see Gina back in the ring.
I guarantee this show will BOMB and this will be the one and only time CBS airs this affiliation.
maybe you should watch ufc 1 or 2 where a skinny guy named royce gracie beat fighters much bigger than himself and much bigger than kimbo.
That was back before most of the people he fought new what bjj was all about. They did not know how to stop the take down. If Kimbo knew he was fighting BJ he would obviously train to stop the take down.
that is your first comment that i haven’t hated.
thank you
(to dana’s cheap)
That was then, this is now, BIG DIFFERENCE. Even the one trick ponys now, have a MUCH more well rounded game. Back then most of those one discipline fighters didn’t even know what BJJ was, so how could they defend against it. Kimbo would KILL BJ. I don’t think Kimbo is great, he is just to big, agressive and HARD hitting for a MUCH smaller man to deal with.
I have a feeling there will be a lot of people watching this fight as well.
The only way Elite XC bombs is if Kimbo Slice loses. They are putting the history of their organization on his shoulders.
future, not history
Thank you for the correction. You are exactly right.
Truth
I did like the comment about Thompson getting knocked out before he even enters the cage. Sometimes I’ve wondered if the guy will accidentally knock himself out when he does all that flailing around during his introduction.
LOL, that would be awesome.
The reason I think its a stupid comment is Dana is not wiling to back his comment up. Talk all you want if your willing to back it up, but he’s not willing to let BJ go fight Kimbo, so he ought to just keep his mouth shut. If I thought BJ could whip Kimbo and said it in public, then I’d let him go give it a shot. Don’t see Dana doing that.
I agree man, great point.
Dana is just talking a bunch of smack to promote UFC 84 this weekend. Even if Dana were to cross promote with Elite-XC and allow BJ-Penn to fight Kimbo NSAC would probably never allow it.
Took the words right outta my mouth.
BJ Penn is actually a fan of Kimbo.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/5/20/523819/b-j-penn-i-m-a-kimbo-slice#comments
“I’m a streetfighter and I love streetfighters,” Penn said. “It’s great to have other leagues. UFC can’t have everyone. There’s thousands of fighters out there and they need a chance to make a living. Me, I’m a Kimbo Slice fan. I like fighting. I see where Dana is coming from and I respect his opinion, but I like streetfighting.”
B.J. Penn: “I’m a Kimbo Slice*fan” - Bloody Elbow
for those of you too lazy to click the link!
Guilty as charged! LMAO
lol, same
I’m not too surprised that BJ’s a fan. BJ’s always been more of a fan of “fighters” than “athletes” (i.e. GSP).
Kimbo’s just making a (very good) living. It’s not like he’s taking food off somebody else’s table. He’s getting paid by a millionaire.
GSP is a fighter and an athlete, which makes him a better FIGHTER. Also I always though (most) BJ fans were a bit delusional, but to think he would beat Kimbo is a joke. I’m a huge GSP fan and think he can handle anyone near his weight class, but kimbo would HURT him BADDLY,same goes for BJ. BJ can’t handle the strength of Hughes, how is he going to handle the big ape of a man Kimbo is.
I’m just laughing at the “for those of you to lazy to click the link” comment. Is that really lazy? Or perhaps impatient? Calling people lazy for sitting at their computers and not clicking a link is really funny to me. I can just see a Saturday Night Live skit made out of it. Two guys too lazy to click on a link, so the guy in the middle has to lean over them to click on the link for them.
Anyone who’s a fan of BJ should check out this game. You can box Sean Sherk as BJ Penn! It’s pretty funny.
http://www.fyrebug.com/2008/05/19/penn-vs-sherk/
Lets not forget that BJ has ventured into igher weight classes with mixed success. He couldn’t beat Machida who fights at 205, so why would he have success with a much larger Kimbo?
Quite frankly I’m sick of everyone hopping on the BJ band-wagon. Everyone remembers the last two fights where he was dominant, but lets not forget the BJ Penn that came out of shape and got out-worked and out-classed by GSP and Hughes. He still has something to prove to me.
And why does everyone hate Kimbo? Sure he’s fought cans.. no doubt, but these are his first few fights. With Bas Rutten’s tuteledge and his undeniable physical endowments Slice could be threat down the road. Right now its just too early to tell.
Sorry but I respectfully disagree.
BJ has NOTHING to prove to the likes of you, keyboard warrior extraordinaire.
And to me either.
He was not outclassed by anyone. He gave GSP hell and lost a decision. He beat Hughes once.
Give BJ his respect if not your admiration.
I completely agree with you on Kimbo. Too early to tell…
A. I think Machida would annihilate Kimbo. And the Penn-Machida fight was pretty close… It wasn’t like Lyoto destroyed BJ…
2. I don’t call losing a split decision being out-classed. (personally, I think that a split decision in a #1 contender or championship fight should be grounds for a near automatic rematch)
III. Wining half of your fights against Hughes isn’t being outclassed either. (I want to see Hughes-Penn 3 before GSP-Penn 2)
i would pay money to see that fight
I hope Dana realizes that directly addressing whatever he thinks about EliteXC’s fighters is offering them validation and even more buzz. He’s playing right into their game.
The UFC can’t stand that times are changing, deal with it!
hahah, come on now.. why is dana talking about things like this, who the f does this guy think he is… i would pay to see Dana White vs Kimbo.. he shouldn’t go around and disrespect other fighters.. this guy needs to come down to earth, people are starting to realize that this guy is a complete idiot and full of himself and “his” company UFC..
Dana is a professional boxer who would of out boxed Tito had they gone through with the fight. Dana by TKO
In reply to the guy who said he’d like to see Dana fight Kimbo or to shut his mouth
Because of course what has Dana White ever done for MMA…
HATTER! Kimbo’s doing his thing why dose every body keep taking shoots at him he is a humble guy just trying to make it in this game he’ll tell you himself the guy has two fights everyone wants says o if he fights this guy or this guy he’ll get killed mean while the other people have been fighting and training for 10-15 years Dana just jealous of any one thats making money
I can’t even bring myself to make jokes on the grammar and spelling in this post.
I know, where do you start??? Hatter- “one who throws hats at large african american males” urbandictionary.com
lol!
Yeah, Dana is very jealous of people making money as he is so broke……
Chef and UK :
Take it easy on the kid. He probably has a youtube collection of Kimbo’s greatest hits and has never read through a book before.
Lol. Im sorry I just can’t help being a Kimbo HATTER. (he he)
Classic. Kimbo seems to have a large head. What size hat does he wear. Tell me have you every “hatted” for Tito?
LOL
i like watching elite xc they do have some fighters, with that being said if they did get bankrupt i hope dana grabs some talent, they need lawler back, grab brett rodgers and silva, grab shields
this guy needs to stop making comments in media.. is he trying to get his own fan club or what? when is he going to start making comments about BJ beating hw’s in the UFC..
“The amount of talent and fights we put on are second to none.”
Can someone send Dana a copy of the “UFC 85: Bedlam” card and a copy of the “Affliction: Banned” card? Thanks.
UFC 72? Franklin/Okami main event.
UFC 77: Schafer/Bonnar, Starnes/Belcher, Gurgel/Robinson, Sylvia/Vera.
Not one of those fights were exciting. NOT ONE. That card blew terribly.
Dana White needs to literally shut up. He is like that annoying dog that just barks at literally everything. Dana, you run your business, you keep saying “He is not MMA” if he is not MMA, then why are you talking about it? Dana needs to just run the UFC and shut it.
Yea, I was just picking a currently bad card, no doubt there have been even worse cards before.
Agree about UFC 72 and 77, other than that I think of:
UFC 78: main event Evans-Bisping (decision) *yawn*
UFC 67: Eddie Sanchez marathon, Lutter not making weight
I also don’t get the hatin toward Kimbo. Sure he has no formal education in any of martial arts, but if Dana puts guys like Blake Bowman, Charles McCarthy, Marlon Sims, Gabe Ruediger, Allen Berube […] in the Octagon, then surely someone who trains under Bas Rutter deserves a break from Dana’s continous bickering.
THat was FRanKLIN vs Andreson not OKami!
No comparison bro. UFC puts 12 major cards on a year. Not Dana’s fault Rua and Liddel got hurt. Affliction’s card is nuts, but so is UFC 84. Not to mention all the other cards we have seen this year from the UFC.
well theres only 1 way to find out! LOL!!
“The amount of talent and fights we put on are second to none”
Dunno Dana, the affliction card is looking pretty hot!
I wish he would stop with the tunnel vision. If he were to co promote then we would have all the big fights we hoped for when UFC bought Pride.
The Affliction card is going to be one of the best ever.
And it will also be their last.
WOW…Dana is such a dickhead… Why does he care so much about Kimbo?
BOXING MATCH…DANA vs KIMBO!!!!!!
knocked out before he got into the cage, lol. That’s awesome.
Yeah, it’s a good article. Dana White talks a lot but speaks the truth sometimes.
Later in the article he talks about cross promotions and that there is no chance in hell it would happen!
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And often, through the media, the smaller companies express their interest to do a co-promotion with the heavy-handed, cash-machine UFC, not just for money but to see which organization has the better talent.
White brushes off the propositions and sees it as just an opportunity for the smaller, less-exposed organizations to ride the UFC’s success.
“[B]Why would I cross promote with other companies? They have nothing[/B],” White said. “They have no fighters, no credibility. I would never cross promote. What for? We have the best fighters.”
LINK TO THE REST OF THE ARTICLE
http://www.presstelegram.com/moresports/ci_9339577
Penn via flying armbar.
Shut your hole and book the fight Dana! Put your money where your mouth is and get some outside fighters to prove the UFC is the big kid on the block.
I think BJ could take a shot from Kimbo and live, but Kimbo on the ground would tap quicker than the F bomb coming out of Dana’s mouth.
After this card what will Elite XC do? Will they have Kimbo fight every televised card? Kimbo is just hype!
I know B.J. is an extremely talented fighter, and I am the furthest thing from a Kimbo fan, but some of the B.J. love is a bit too strong in here. There is no chance in hell that B.J. could ever beat Kimbo standing. Kimbo does have some boxing skills, and hits hard. Not to mention the 75 lb. weight advantage. I do think B.J. could submit him, but lets be reasonable, he isn’t going to knock Kimbo out.
naturalshadow, I totally agree. I think BJ is great but I don’t think he’ll be able to knock him out as easily as some people claim on here. he’s not freakin’ superman.
it’s stupid for dana to make such a comment though. he’s comparing one of the best p4p fighters out there with a guy that has a pro record of 2 and 0. that’s silly…
Does anyone really care if Affliction only has this show? Even if it is a one and done situation it was still an awesome card that Dana could say absolutely about. There will always be people willing to pay top $ to put on a big fight. The UFC will never dominate everyone. There will always be competion no matter how small. Affliction did an excellent job signing up some amazing fights. If AA signs on, then it has a better HW card than the UFC can put on. Let’s just enjoy it for what it is. An awesome event.
I think Kimbo is too big, strong for BJ…. I mean Pennis bad ass, but if he gets caught with a flush punch. It just might be burrito-dreaming time.